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EddyJ starts with ...
I have a Rollinia (deliciosa/mucosa?)that I purchased from here(DaleysD. It bears the long spined fruit. The one I really want is the one with the shorter spines as shown/demonstrated in the Daleys video clip. Since the cataslogue doesn't seem to differentiate between the two species, does anyone know how or where I can obtain one of the type I want. Thanks.
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trikus says...
Just natural variation , plant seeds from fruit you like .. Rollinia back in with Annona now , not a valid name any more . Annona mucosa .. seems Rollinia was resurrected for a short time only .
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EddyJ says...
Thanks for the taxonomic info trikus. I still have the problem of tracking down either a sapling or a fruit of the short spined variety. Any ideas?
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Mike says...
Eddy it is the same species and just shows a bit of the natural variation in a widespread plant.Some have flat topped bumps instead of spines.Mucosa is normally thought to be more cold resistant and deliciosa a bit higher in brix but they are all mixed up in Australia.They vary in sweetness and texture and I would plant seeds from a tasty line.I can keep an eye out at the markets and send you an alert if I get one more like mucosa in character.
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trikus says...
Local grown one .. I have fruit that will be ripening in a few months .. will keep you posted . Should be lots of seedlings available will ask at next meeting of RFA .. its here in Tully 25/2 ph.me for details,number from our website
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Mike says...
Now that is a whopper trikus.I think Peter S. from Feluga is in the RFA and I bet you know him and Trina who maneges the nursery.I reckon he would have some good ones.
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trikus says...
Mike , yes Trina is secretary for Rare Fruits Au. this year .. next meeting is at her place showing her take on Peters trellis system .. Peters next door neighbour has a big patch of Rollinia and no doubt that is the spot this one came from . usually for sale at first servo coming into town from north . Big upgrade in nursery there , should be great for Artocarpus and Durio sourcing .
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Mike says...
I re-acquainted with Peter a couple of years ago after doing talks for C4 and going to the Sal. farm 18 years ago.I have obtained about 10 or more quality trees from Trina and Peter including durians,amber,good DF,rambos and a canistel.I have in return offered salaks,E4,krasuey,limberlost durian,yacon,UD hog plum and maprang.Maybe I have cleaned him out of all his good stuff and given far more modest offerings in return.
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trikus says...
Just found out the massive block of nearly 1000 Rollina trees was recently bulldozed as sons taking over farm , and not as into trees as father was .[ next door to Peter]. so sad that source of selected seedling trees over a few generations went into that block ..
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Mike says...
trikus,what a shame about the Rollinia.After the cyclones and high price of sugar it seems to be a recurring theme.The Zapallas' farm durians was another sad tale of the loss of a diverse tropical fruit gene pool.On a more positive note odd trees of previously unknown species and varieties in Australia are turning up in back yards and single trees on farms.A few days ago I became aware of a bright red supposedly sweet custard apple of some type in a back yard.Apparently the owners callit an heirloom and no one twigged that it is unusual.
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BJ says...
Argh! Stories like that make me want to pull my hair out - lucky I keep it shaved for just such an occasion!
So sad.
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BJ says...
My tree has its first fruit coming off tomorrow! hooray. Here is a pick from yesterday, just as its starting to colour. It has taken 3 years from seed - flowered last season, set 5 fruit so far this season, two nearly ripe, two are a good 2 months behind and one more has just set this week.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Good job BJ. Beautiful fruit. Nice to know that it does not take too long from seed to fruiting.
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David says...
Good one BJ, i knew they were quick to fruit but thats got to be a record.
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trikus says...
xclnt growing BJ , I have been pigging out on Rollinias over the last few weeks ..peak season for them it seems .
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Linton says...
Does anyone know if the Rollinia grow in Melbourne? I often thought of trying to grow it here but not sure if it can survive.
In the photo it looks like a custard apple. Are there any similarities between Rollinias, Custard Apples and White Sapotes?
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David says...
Somewhere on these forums , someone mentioned a Rollinia growing in the Sydney bot gards, this could poss be the southern limit unless you could protect in winter with a greenhouse, could be costly.
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John Mc says...
Mine are doing well here, just an hours drive north of Sydney, I'm happy with their growth rate here. They must be fast growers in the tropics. I have a 4 yo seedling and a 2yo grafted Sputnick with a late couple of fruits hanging on. They lose their leaves in late winter very briefly, but are soon in leaf again. I give them a good heavy prune similar to Custard apples (atemoyas)when leafless.
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Jenny says...
BJ how did your Rollinia fruit taste? This is one of mine, perfectly ripe, I must admit I was slightly disappointed because it was a bit bland - not how I remember my first and only one off my tree a year or so ago. Certainly a lemony taste just not very intense. We have had a lot of rain would that affect it? and I wonder would applying a bit of magnesium - epsom salts help to sweeten next year.
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BJ says...
Jenny, mine was very good. I ate it while still a little firm. The 'jelly' spots in the fruit were super sweet, while the main firmer flesh was nice and sweet, but not as super sweet as they could be if left for another day or half day. It had a good amount of sweet lemon flavour. Overall, it was nice as they are easier to eat when not too jelly a consistency. the size is also good as I find the huge rollinia a bit much to eat all at once.
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David says...
BJ ,looks great, where did you get the seed from, good size to. The seeds Mike sent down of the good mucosa, are all sproted , so roll on spring for some good growth, by the way you going to the meeting next week, if so see you there.
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BJ says...
Hi David. its a seedling of a grafted tree. I cant remember if its a sputnik or limberlost variety the seeds came from. I'm thinking it was a Sputnik. Yup, I should be at the meeting, see you there.
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David says...
Thanks for that BJ, you were lucky to get a Sputnik, Daleys no longer list them, (still seeking prop material).
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John Mc says...
David, I'll have some Sputnick scionwood late this/early next year if you were so inclined to try your hand at grafting. Either green or deciduous whatever your comfortable with.
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Jenny says...
John if it's not too cheeky of me I'd like to put my hand up for a bit of that scion wood if you have some to spare. I've read about top-working and if it is possible it seems a good solution to my situation, maybe even a couple of different good varieties if I can find them. After all the love and care I've given that tree I don't want to just rip it out.
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John Mc says...
Sure Jenny, I'll leave a few extra tips on after pruning. do you want the scion wood after leaf drop and bud swell? or green scionwood later in the season? I can pre-prepare the green wood for you if you prefer it that way. I'm trying both methods myself this coming year just for the experience. Can you send me a contact to put in the diary?, I'm not sure exactly when they'll be ready.
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Jenny says...
Thanks so much John, email sent. I can't wait!
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David says...
Thanks john, never done any grafting before, thats very kind of you
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Xavante says...
Hi, does anyone have a Rollinia delicious near the NSW Mid-North Coast? I'm looking to use the branches.
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