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linnie starts with ...
We have two Rose apples... a couple of years ago the larger of them had a handful of fruit on it... delicious!!! Lately I noticed that the smaller tree had lots of flowers on it for the first time and went a whiole later to check... to my joy tehre were small fruit setting on it. Now, however, after we've been away over Christams, the tips of the branches seemed burnt, or rotten, and much of the fruit seems dark and hard... Is this symptomatic of a myrtle rust type infection??? Thank you.
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5th January 2012 6:10pm
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Ellen says...
don't worry it dies off b/c it tries to feed itself due to lack to watering. If it's too hot and you don't water it often enough that will happen. Mine happened the same way often, so i just prune off the dead bit or dried bit,,,and keep watering, new shoots come out.
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7th January 2012 4:32am
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Glennis says...
Which rose apple . I have Syzygium malaccense and its 7 years old . Never seen a flower on it .
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7th January 2012 8:19am
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Mike says...
S.malaccense is the malay apple and it is extremely variable in shape,colour and taste of fruit.Red bells 10cm long after bright purple flowers is a common type.They extend to NE Australia where they are small sour unappealiong fruits.S.jambos is the musk or rose apple with thinner crisper flesh and a musky rose taste.They are pale spheres about 7cm after pale flowers and have a rattly seed.They were a street tree in Cairns many years ago.Confusingly the glamorous S.samarangense or wax apple also gets called rose apple and the common names seem somewhat interchangeable.
I wonder if it is a climate issue with the malay apple as they are usually prolific and can be huge trees.
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9th January 2012 6:43pm
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Glennis says...
Hi Mike . I have the native type which grows from cape york to bloomfield . I looked at my tropical plants version 4 dvd and it says the fruit are black and grape size and nothing like the asian variety . It is a small shade tree .
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9th January 2012 7:50pm
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Mike says...
I didn't think they quite made it to Bloomfield which is in the wet tropics.I have seen fruit to 3cm and the Asian ones are sometimes sold as natives.One planted in Cairns I noticed reached 18m in 6 years and I think they get around 30m high like their Asian cousins but are thinner in form.
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9th January 2012 8:37pm
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Mike says...
I have tried eating dozens of the NQ Syzigium species and I reckon thre lady apple S.suborbiculare is the best, with the river cherry S.tierneyanum sometimes very good and some S.fibrosum being very nice.There is surprising variation in fruit quality between trees even close to each other.
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Glennis says...
When i lived at my previous place i had 2 fibrosum growing . They where about 2x2 mts and i made jam from the berries (abundant) . I now live on red loam clay soils and cannot grow fibrosum for whatever reason . The tierneyanum grows fine here and atm they are a mass of buds waiting to flower . I also have erythrocalyx which recieves water from a downpipe . I get abundant fruit but they are a magnet for fruit fly . I just transplanted a youngii around the back , i cut all the branches off and deep watered it everyday . I only ever had 1 flower on it per year LOL . There are many new buds on it . Apparently red clay soils are similar to sandy soils somehow .
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9th January 2012 8:54pm
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Mike says...
They are both river cherries on various soils with tierneyanum getting huge andf attracting much wildlife.Cassowaries eat erythrocalyx,cormiflorum,forte and alliligneum with relish and even though the fruit are large they are not very palatable for humans.Those species sare also on all soil types and away from streams.
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jakfruit etiquette says...
S.suborbiculare, especially a seedless fruit, or with a small fruit and plenty of flesh is very nice. Riberry,S.leuhmannii...if only they were as big as malay apples!!
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Glennis says...
I only live on a suburban block less than 1000sqm . Down here in brisbane growing in the open , things seem to stay small . The tierneyanum is only a small tree(3mts) . The mango pine on the other hand , i am worried LOL . The mango pine has fruited the last couple of years . amazingly i have a small seeding come up around the parent tree . I have never seen any reference to eating the fruit , probably poisonous .
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9th January 2012 9:12pm
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Mike says...
Barringtonias are probably not edible unless you are a cassowary as well.They often exceed 30m but still are smaller than tierneyanum.I have not yet tried good luehmannii and the suborbiculares at cape trib get at least as big as asian malay apples.
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BJ says...
Mike, have you tried s. pseudofastigiatum?
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9th January 2012 10:32pm
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Mike says...
BJ no I haven't but they are uncommon and around 500km north of here.I have heard they are promising.Generally I have found native fruits that are edible ar still a long a way from being acceptable to most palates.There are hundreds of species with large or fleshy fruits in this district that are eaten by cassowaries,musky rat kangaroos,various types of flying foxes,5 or 6 possum species, tree kangaroos and many birds.When you try these attractive fruits the wildlife are eagerly scoffing you are consistently disappointed.
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amanda says...
I keep trying these all around the place - and they still taste like a lilly-pilly to me? Yukk? :)
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linnie says...
Sorry Glennis. A response, years later... Mine is a Syzigium jambos, tasting like Rose water... delicious!

The fruit could be mistaken for Syzigium moorei (Watermelon tree/Coolamon) which tastes, yes, floury and horrible!
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Bangkok says...
I like rose/wax/jambu apples a lot but only when they are sweet.

I grow all the best variety's i can find in Thailand but they are too small to fruit yet (i guess).

If anybody wants seeds then let me know.

The big seed variety's taste good but also a good ripe chumphu tabtim (the red one with small seeds) is delicious. When they are unripe (but also very red) they are bland and tasteless.

I also grow the new jumbo variety's who weigh 250-500 gram a piece according to the vendors. I haven't seen those on the markets yet but they'll come soon i guess.
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Mike Tr says...
BK a seeded variety in the pic was on display in Bangkok 2 weeks ago.Do you have the variety name? It is small and quite sweet.Chompu taptim is the pomegranate wax apple and is a good red type.
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Bangkok says...
I'm not in BKK now but i've seen these green ones with red butt many times. They have a long season it seems but this is the Or-tor-kor fruitmarket on the pic right? They also sell mangosteens almost all year around.

These are nice but the Chomphu Phet si Rung is better, is also has more color.

I don't know the Thai name, will ask again but the funny thing is many vendors use different names for same fruit. I guess this one is also chomphu phet.

Also it's strange that the big seeded variety's are in fashion lately.

My malay apple called "hawaii" has died but that one also was really nice. I will buy a new tree of it and have seen it only in one shop. There are many malay apples as well and the vendors claim they are sweet but i first want to taste those before i buy a tree.

If i find new rose-apples i will post it in this thread. I made rose-apple cocktailtree's and they grow well.

Grafting malay apple was not a success so far.

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