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About the Author mc1 SOUTH YARRA,3141,VIC 21st April 2017 4:51pm #UserID: 14853 Posts: 62 View All mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Freshly harvested Japanese peppers - Zanthoxylum piperitum. The only problem is I have no idea how to use them. I think they are supposed to be lightly roasted to bring out the flavour, right? Although the flavour is already quite strong when they are fresh like these with an intense spicy, citrusy taste. I would also like to know if the wonderfully aromatic leaves can used as well, perhaps in cooking. The whole room is filled with the fragrant aroma from just a small handful of leaves. Please let me know of any good recipes to use them, thanks. | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 26th April 2017 2:07pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Attention Mcmelb...... You can buy seeds of Zanthoxylum simulans from All Rare Herbs: https://www.allrareherbs.com.au/product/szechuan-pppper-seed/ Cheers! | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 27th April 2017 10:34am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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mcmelb1 says... Hi Linton, thanks for the link! I know for Z. simulans only the casing around the seed is dried and used by the western Chinese. I read while doing some research on the genus that the leaves of the Z. piperitum are eaten while the leaves of Z. simulans generally are not. Z. piperitum leaves are commonly eaten by the Japanese and Koreans and they generally pickle, blanch, fry or deep-fry the leaves, so it seems pretty versatile. Apparently like the Z. simulans, generally only the Z. piperitum fruits (not seeds) are dried and used as a spice - but sometimes they are used whole when unripe by the Japanese in a stew. You should try making something called "e;Shichimi Togarashi"e;, it's a seven ingredient chilli powder; and it's actually the stuff you see at Japanese restaurants. They use the stuff on everything, ramen, stews, salads and on plain rice! I think it'd be great to spice up the mayo in potato salad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanthoxylum_piperitum Shichimi Togarashi recipe: https://www.chowhound.com/recipes/shichimi-togarashi-and-nanami-togarashi-10602 Also Linton, I was looking through your Edible's page and saw that you have a Chrysophyllum imperiale. I was wondering how you got a hold of the plant/seeds? Aren't they very rare? Beautiful trees though. Thanks! | About the Author mc1 SOUTH YARRA,3141,VIC 28th April 2017 9:23pm #UserID: 14853 Posts: 62 View All mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Thanks for the info on preparing the Japanese peppers. Will have to do some experimenting with them now. To get Chrysophyllum imperiale you will need to go to the Sydney Botanic Gardens shop who sells them from time to time. They have a large fruiting tree growing in the gardens there so they are able to propagate more plants from the seeds. Bear in mind that they are ultra slow growing and may take 20 years to reach fruiting age. | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 30th April 2017 6:09pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author mc1 SOUTH YARRA,3141,VIC 23rd August 2017 7:01pm #UserID: 14853 Posts: 62 View All mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Attention mcmelb1... How you going? All of the Zanthoxylum piperitum seeds I planted last year sprouted, but then all of them died thereafter. I'm not sure why they are so difficult to raise but suspect its probably due to damping off and I don't know how to overcome this problem. So I don't have any seeds or seedlings at this time. Now I have only the one tree which I repotted today as it's about 1 metre high. I will try to harvest more berries in April and may be able to send you some then if you want to try. Pics of the Japanese Pepper Tree before potting and after in a larger pot. Cheers!
| About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 23rd January 2018 8:04pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author mc1 SOUTH YARRA,3141,VIC 25th January 2018 10:34am #UserID: 14853 Posts: 62 View All mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 30th January 2018 8:07pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author mc1 SOUTH YARRA,3141,VIC 1st February 2018 12:30am #UserID: 14853 Posts: 62 View All mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Scotchmist LEONGATHA,3953,VIC 1st October 2019 1:03pm #UserID: 5951 Posts: 16 View All Scotchmist's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 2nd October 2019 8:05pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 3rd October 2019 11:24pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author oldfolky ABBOTSFORD,3067,VIC 19th April 2020 8:03am #UserID: 22385 Posts: 3 View All oldfolky's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 28th April 2020 8:28pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author oldfolky ABBOTSFORD,3067,VIC 29th April 2020 6:12pm #UserID: 22385 Posts: 3 View All oldfolky's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 30th April 2020 7:45pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Momomo says... Hi Linton, ur Sansho tree grown from seedlings? How long does it take if so? I wish I could buy the tree somewhere in Australia... it seems nowhere sell it! This tree only the female tree get fruits. And most popular way to consume is the powder made from leaves. Sprinkle on top of Unagi ( eel cooked by Japanese way ) . | About the Author Momomo WILLIAMSTOWN,3016,VIC 19th May 2020 12:57pm #UserID: 22816 Posts: 3 View All Momomo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Dear Momomo, great to see you are well attuned to the use of the Sansho tree. I never thought about using the powder made from the leaves. But the fresh pungent leaves are highly aromatic with a lemony citrus scent and I love to crush them and put them in a room for freshener. The seedling tree I have is about 4 years old and I also have a few small 1 yo seedlings pictured. They are dormant now but I will probably offer some of them for sale in Spring when they start growing again. Cheers!
| About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 21st May 2020 10:17am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Momomo WILLIAMSTOWN,3016,VIC 23rd May 2020 2:04pm #UserID: 22816 Posts: 3 View All Momomo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Momomo says... Just realized the one you are growing is China origin but what I am looking for is japan origin one. Those looks similar but different. I found the site explaining about how to use fruits of Z. Pepertum just for u to refer. If u use key word of Huajiao, u will get more info.. https://www.malafood.com/en/sichuan-peppers-huajiao | About the Author Momomo WILLIAMSTOWN,3016,VIC 23rd May 2020 2:32pm #UserID: 22816 Posts: 3 View All Momomo's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lauren says... Hi Linton, If you are adventurous in the kitchen, I'd suggest having a look into Sichuanese cooking, where they make liberal use of these peppercorns (once dried, and as you said, roasted before use). A classic dish to start with is Mapo Tofu which gives you a great opportunity to experience the "mala" (numbing-hot) flavor profile of the seed casings. The numbing sensation is unusual, but addicting! | About the Author Lauren ALEXANDRIA,2015,NSW 23rd May 2020 5:10pm #UserID: 22864 Posts: 2 View All Lauren's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lauren says... Hi Linton, I'm new here and could not get it to work to comment on your personal page so I hope you don’t mind me reaching out to you here. I'm just starting my garden this year and I find your "edible backyard" so impressive - thanks for all the inspiration! I was wondering if you might keep me in mind, too, in the case you do end up selling some of your Zanthoxylum Piperitum seedlings? I'd love to have fresh kinome leaves in the backyard to cook with. :) Thank you! | About the Author Lauren ALEXANDRIA,2015,NSW 15th June 2020 4:33pm #UserID: 22864 Posts: 2 View All Lauren's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Thanks for your nice comments. I dont know why you were not able to write a reply on my page. Normally people just write a comment under the relevant plant's description on my edible page but you have to log in first to do that. In your first message above you talk about Sichuanese cooking so I'm not sure if you are looking for a Sichuan Pepper plant, Z. simulans, or Japanese Pepper, Z. piperitum. I'm growing both but they are still tiny and are dormant now but I will try to let you know once it gets warmer and they are starting to take off again. Cheers! | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 18th June 2020 9:25pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Kato HIGHGATE HILL 4101 QLD Australia 30th September 2020 10:18am #UserID: 24283 Posts: 2 View All Kato's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Sorry but only have Zanthoxylum simulans left at the moment. I have more Sansho Pepper Zanthoxylum piperitum seeds sown some months ago but they have not yet germinated and could need longer stratification before they emerge. I will try to let you know once they are up. Please keep in touch Kato so I can give you an update later. Cheers! | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 1st October 2020 11:42am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Kato HIGHGATE HILL 4101 QLD Australia 18th October 2020 1:58pm #UserID: 24283 Posts: 2 View All Kato's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 17th July 2021 8:54pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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