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Linda H starts with ...
Is there anywhere in Australia I can buy a mangosteen tree. I would love to try and grow one. They are tropical but would still like to give it a go in perth
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Trikus says...
Try and find some fruit and grow one from seed . Very difficult to ship trees to WA . A Yellow mangosteen looks very similar and it is much hardier.
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Mike Tr says...
There are dozens of yellow mangosteen species and G.dulcis is the pick of the Asian yellows.The yellow American types of course are more worthy.
To get a mangosteen tree you would need to check place around the wet tropics and they are hard to grow in the wrong climate.
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Bangkok says...
Do yellow mangosteens taste about the same as the purple ones?

And how long does it take before G.Dulcis (maphut) is ripe? I planted a bearing tree 6 months ago but the fruit is still smaller than a pingpongball.

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Theposterformerlyknownas says...
yellow mangosteen taste nothing like purples. They are more like an acidic sour juicy apricot, if we were to compare known tastes. Mundu (dulcis) has the same kind of flavour, but less acid/sour. They should be larger than a baseball and yellow when ready, so those have a long way to go.
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Mike Tr says...
Yellow ones are not mangosteens and the word Garcinia should be used.There is no similarity as all in taste with south American and prainiana being totally different as well.
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Bangkok says...
We shouldn't write about yellows in general. Dulcis is Maphut or Mundu and NOT the yellow sour mangosteen from usa.

Because the americans always wrote the yellow is very sour i never was interested in Dulcis.
Untill i learned that Dulcis is another yellow and there must be a reason it's called Dulcis (means sweet in latin) i guess.

I just call them maphut or mundu from now on and don't care what americans do. I've only read about South American mangosteens which are good, that's not the USA.

My tree might have issues because i just planted it so i wonder how long it normally takes for the fruit to develop. Mine are very slow but that's fine since nothing attacks them so far. The squirrels got some when i planted the tree but i guess they didn't like them because i found them in the pot.

Dulcis is being sold at many more places lately in Thailand. There are farmers breeding them but i still never saw a ripe Dulcis fruit.

I grafted several other mangosteens on this tree, they grew for a while but finally wilted. I'll try it again.

But all of my garcinia's have some defficiency it seems. Maybe our climate is a bit to hot and dry for them.

For perth i would grow achacha as tryout, just from seed. Feed them rainwater if you can.

To make it a real experiment i would plant them close together and connect the stems to make a multiple stem tree.

My maphut also has 3 stems and seems to bloom nonstop.

I can send you seeds from purple mangosteen if you like, so far they always arrived from thailand. Just give it a try.


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Scott Pointing says...
Yes they reckon Mundu is sweeter than Yellow Mangosteen. You can grow Purple Mangosteen in a hothouse in the subtropics but it is a long drawn out affair without any guarantee of fruiting success. My purple mangosteen I got in 2004 is about 2 and half meters high now looking well but still no fruit growing in a hothouse. But fun to try these things. Hopefully in another few years there may be one or two fruit. Yum!
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Bangkok says...
If you live close to the Beach in Perth you might try the seashore mangosteen.

In Thailand they grow right on the beach and are used as umbrella's.

I tried making multiple stem tree's with one seashore mangosteen as well, don't know the result yet.

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Mike Tr says...
Yellow mangosteen just means what Garcinia is this? Dulcis is sour but sweeter than xanthochymus and cochinensis which are similar.Some forms of dulcis are a little sweeter than others.
Bangkok no Perth is too cold.
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Scott says...
try Mundu that should be a sweet one
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Bangkok says...
Mike have you tasted the same dulcis as that videoguy Joshua?
I don't know who to believe and what sour means these days.

Actually i have never read they were sour written by an Asian. And those guys all have a sweet tooth.

Well i will have to taste them myself, hopefully soon if my maphut's speed up. It's not normal how slow they grow, well at least i have fruit developing so should be happy.

Actually none of my garcinia's looks happy in my garden. The achacha looks like the maphut, yellow leaves.
The lemon drop is still 50 cm tall after almost 3 years and has very yellow leaves.
The purple does the best i think, it's a grafted one but grows in the shade.
Cambogia made a fruit but it was so fat the whole branch broke off.

I have some more garcinia's but used them for rootstock. I might have a special red one from Thailand as well, it's supposed to be sweet but who can we believe in such matters? Sure no vendors.

It's pretty easy to buy 10 different garcinia tree's in Bangkok but to find fruit is almost impossible. Only the purples are for sale.
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Bangkok says...
http://weather.mla.com.au/climate-history/wa/roleystone

Coldest Ever 2.2

I read on another forum that achacha's even can stand minor frost, it has never frozen in Roleystone so i would still give it a try...plant some achacha seeds.

To get higher chance of survival plant some more tree's and create a microclimate. Plant it inbetween rock walls or other big stones who keep warm at night.

I would also let the airconditioners drip their water near the tree. That's free clean water every day for the tree.
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Linda H says...
We only have rainwater here as we aren't on scheme water
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Julie says...
This doesn't make sense to me - what am I missing?

Coldest ever 2.2 21/08/2000
Coldest this year 1.6 13/07/2016

Araluen valley usually has temps 2c below the rest of Roleystone. I wonder where the measurements are taken?
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Waterfall says...
Achacha grows well for me in Sydney and I think the fruit is very enjoyable. It has a similar taste to the purple but more of a sharpness or tang and much less flesh per fruit.

Personally I wouldn't bother trying to grow a purple.
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Scott says...
Thats true Purple Mangosteen is very hard to grow south of Ingham in general Im at Beerwah and have one growing in a hothouse successfully for the past 12 years looks good even through winter but still no fruit unfortunately about 2 and half meters high should eventually fruit hopefully
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