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About the Author vlct glenelg 21st October 2013 6:58pm #UserID: 8152 Posts: 311 View All vlct's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author vlct glenelg 22nd October 2013 9:38am #UserID: 8152 Posts: 311 View All vlct's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... hey vlct, can't answer your question regarding what is better down south but Sensation is a parent (the other being KP) of the Calypso. Which, as an american origin mango has some turpentine taste (or 'funny' taste). But if you like Calypso, then its worth growing. Note, Irwin is also American. So I think as much as getting a suitable mango to grow, taste of the fruit should be considered. | About the Author Brain Brisbane 23rd October 2013 2:23pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author ivepeters Brisbane 23rd October 2013 4:01pm #UserID: 6741 Posts: 527 View All ivepeters's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... Yes after flowering as it would interfere with fruit formation. But in general, the tree should get a spray regularly to keep the diseases under control. I assume you are talking about black spots and anthracnose. Also be mindful that some of the sprays can be quite toxic, best to keep away from kids and pregnant women. I personally have never sprayed my (small) trees as I'm not bothered by a few spots here and there. But that's not to say it doesn't need one. I haven't tasted an Irwin but I do have one because it was dwarf. However, had I known about it's lineage to the Turpentine mango, I would have changed my mind. you can have a look at this web site on some common mangos. http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/index.shtml If I was to choose an American mango or two, I'd grow Florigon or Valencia Pride, based solely upon other people's tasting notes, lol. Otherwise, I would love to get my hands on Alphonso (an indian strain mango) or Atulfo (mexican but related to Alphonso). I figured KP is of Indian origin and being sweet and aromatic is good enough for me. The Thai strains are worthly of a look and as a chef, you can use them for cooking/salads as well. Have a lookout for King Thai, Nam Doc Mai, Sam Ru Du, Kwan and plenty of others. | About the Author Brain Brisbane 23rd October 2013 6:06pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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vlct says... Yeah antracnose, although my tree doesn't show any severe signs, I just assumed its essential down here aswel. I tried nam doc the other day for the first time, I was pretty impressed. There polyembryonic aswel? I really need to plant seed grown down here as there more vigorous. Daleys dont stock nam but they do have R2. Have you tried this variety. Thanks again. | About the Author vlct glenelg 23rd October 2013 6:20pm #UserID: 8152 Posts: 311 View All vlct's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author vlct glenelg 23rd October 2013 6:45pm #UserID: 8152 Posts: 311 View All vlct's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... I believe southern states have a shorter growing period, therefore less ripening time. Early or mid-season varieties would suit best. Irwin is mid-season. Sensation is late so regardless of whether it tastes agreeable to you or not,there's a good chance the fruit may not ripen satisfactorily. R2e2's will be hitting the shelves soon enough, so you can try them for yourself. They're considered a mid-season variety. | About the Author VF 23rd October 2013 10:40pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author vlct glenelg 24th October 2013 6:34am #UserID: 8152 Posts: 311 View All vlct's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... the thing I found with R2E2 is, beside being big, they are rather bland and tasteless. It has good firm flesh and good storage qualities, which is great for the export market but not so great for local consumers who expect more from their mangos. R2E2's parentage is likely to be KP & Kent. I think Nam Doc Mai is Poly. Also, look out for Honey Gold (KP & unknown cross), which some forum members here say it is poly and worth growing. HG is ok but still prefer KP to it. In Brisbane at least, we also get Keitt, Palmer and Brooks mango. I also tried a Pearl last summer but didn't quite like it. http://www.mangoes.net.au/homegrown/varieties.aspx | About the Author Brain Brisbane 24th October 2013 2:29pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... ARKP is good as is King Thai or Maha Chinok. ARKP has a strong orange overtone over the regular KP flavor. Both are laden in my front yard and I'm hoping the impending storm doesn't knock too many off! You can't really go wrong with KP. Don't get ones too early that frosts will kill flowers and none too late that they won't ripen. NDM is the other good choice as it's good green or ripe. I'm growing out some seedling Lemon Zest mango now and hope its as good as the Americans have hyped it to be! | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 24th October 2013 2:41pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Brain Brisbane 24th October 2013 2:50pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 24th October 2013 3:57pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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starling says... Totally, utterly, completely agree as much as possible BJ--the CSRIO Fingerlime is VILE!Looks pretty, but man, is it ever awful. I wonder if the byron bay cultivar is the same. I bought mine from bunnings, grafed variety--not sure what it is, but is sure was expensive. The salesman recommend it, but that probably had more to do with it being the most expensive one on the pallet than anything else. It has two fruits on it, probably the fist time it has fruited. The rest dropped off. The fruit are turning from dark purple to light green as they mature. I have another one in the ground which seed grown, so it will probably be terrible. | About the Author starlingshoals@gmail.com 24th October 2013 4:09pm #UserID: 8102 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... the 3 CSIRO finger limes are Outback (desert lime), Blood/Red Centre (finger lime and mandarin cross) and Sunrise (finger and calamodin cross). By the sound of things, it could be a typical finger lime and may not the CSIRO hybrids above. Price is around $35 at bunnies. Anyway, finger limes has a lot of genetic diversity, so it's a luck of the draw and seeds are mono - not true to type. But just like people growing mono-mangos from seeds, miracles do happen. may I also say that I am jealous of BJ's mango prowess. | About the Author Brain Brisbane 24th October 2013 5:14pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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vlct says... Thanks, i've ordered a grafted nam doc. Hopefully it'l hold up of winter. This is a seeding kp. It has 3 other limbs top prune that look as tho there pushing out leaf growth. This is the highest limb, would it be worth leaving it on ? L.zest sounds different.
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About the Author starlingshoals@gmail.com 24th October 2013 5:22pm #UserID: 8102 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Starling, if yours was expensive and from bunnings then it's likely Rainforest Pearl. It's the worst of the grafted types. I yanked mine ages ago. It is super tough and prolific, but the fruit is terrible and has a very high skin oil content. Tasty Green is green all the way through. The red centre lime is the small egg shaped red skinned one. It's pleasant enough in drinks and is super prolific, but it has none of the good points of the finger lime IMHO. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 24th October 2013 10:32pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Vlct, I had one 2-3 years ago so I can't recall the taste enough to make a fair comment. I don't recall it being horrible or anything bad, but I didn't buy anymore so it can't have been anything too special. :) I think you've made a good choice with NDM. It's a mid-season variety,and as BJ pointed out, it's both a good green and ripe eating mango. Just be aware that the literature stating it's prone to powdery mildew is correct - this is the only mango variety I have flowering ( of 5) that has it. It also seems a little more susceptible to mango scale than my other varieties. Has anyone contacted the Australian National Mango Genebank to get budwood for grafting? They have well over 300 varieties to choose from. | About the Author VF 25th October 2013 12:02am #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author starlingshoals@gmail.com 25th October 2013 10:39am #UserID: 8102 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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A.C says... I live in inner Adelaide and can say from experience as for locating a mango tree plant it near a large concrete, brick , ,bitumen thermal mass that heats the air at night to reduce frost damage.Plant it in front of a brick wall at least 3m away or more or near the road, out on the front lawn .I reckon bitumen is the best thermal mass by far.Try position that avoids 2pm sunlight onwards in summer,otherwise use shadecloth to do this.Good luck. | About the Author AC1 Adelaide 27th October 2013 12:38pm #UserID: 8055 Posts: 103 View All AC1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... You will notice some trees will have burning on the tips that is salt burn.Mangoe is typical of this problem.Adelaide has high salinity levels compared to other states.It might get better with desal plant,not 100% sure on that one.You can buy conductivity meters on ebay to test your water. | About the Author AC1 2nd November 2013 4:03pm #UserID: 8055 Posts: 103 View All AC1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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