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waterproofing in a food growing area

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MJ starts with ...
Hi everyone

I am at a loss to find out about the safest way to waterproof a limestone wall, which will be a food-growing area (fruit and veg all together).

I have been quoted for "bitumizing" the inside of all of the walls. Does anyone know if this is safe for edibles, or what alternatives exist? I have googled, but just come up with commercial products which look like a bitumen product, or a concrete-like product. The company say they are safe, but I don't know anything about it.

Any ideas? There is such a lot of great knowledge on this forum, I thought I'd try here.

Thanks
MJ
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Jim says...
you could always use some thick black plastic to separate the soil from the wall. It is safe, cheap and will stop the limestone from discolouring, to a certain extent.
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Julie says...
Don't know about the inside MJ, but years ago I waterproofed the outside of a brick wall with Bondcrete - probably diluted, but too long ago to remember.

I have also used it (1:4 Bondcrete to water) to seal a strawberry pot. It is very useful stuff.
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peter, says...
how much was the quote for bitumizing.

what is the m2 area of the inside of
the walls.

i have water proofed many things
including the lower part of dragon fruit
poles with fibreglass.
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MJ says...
Peter, the quote was just part of the overall quote for building the walls and paving, so hard to tell. It looks like a reasonable quote though, we think we'll go with this guy.

Julie, is Bondcrete the stuff you use on concrete floors (like garage floors)? I seem to remember that.

Jim, black plastic might be the go. Or, I could even use it next to the bitumen...

Will keep pondering
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Brendan says...
Hi MJ, you can buy a bathroom water proofing 'kit' from hardware stores. In the bathroom, 3 coats have to be applied to actually make it waterproof.
Even bunnings sell it :-)
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Julie says...
Mj, I think it is a PVA water-based glue. Don't know about the concrete floors though.

I made cheap signs for a garden by enlarging typed text on photocopier, gluing to board and coating with diluted Bondcrete. They lasted for years.
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amanda says...
Just a thought - but you might need to make sure that what you use is going to be suitable around soil? Soil organisms and pH, fert's etc may eat into a treatment not designed for that purpose perhaps...?
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MJ says...
Amanda, yes, that is my primary worry. I might be better off just using a concrete "render" on the inside and leaving it at that. Limestone will go grey in time, anyway.
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Mike says...
MJ a good product at bunnies that is non toxic and used for waterproofing ponds for fish and waterplants is Pond Tite by Bondall.They have a range of sealing paints that are mild and effective on concrete render.
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Jim says...
Hi Miranda you might want to seal the outside of the limestone also as this will help it keep its colour. I assume you have already bought it but if not than there are some reasonably good looking reconstituted limestones that wouldn't have these issues.
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MJ says...
Jim, we are planning to use reconstituted, which I gather have less of the grey mould, but my mum has some which has gone very grey.
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Jim says...
I have had reconstituted in for about 3 years and it hasn't changed colour at all. I did put some plastic on the back to be sure but even then I was advised that it wasn't necessary. Obviously it will depend on the type, but one of the main selling points of reconstituted is that it will keep its colour, so I wouldn't be too concerned.
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amanda says...
That's a point Jim..I have recon limestone too - with no sealing or backing at all - in the garden beds. No changes in colour etc (I don't have bore water tho)

My folks sealed their real limestone wall tho - with that limestone sealer stuff..
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MJ says...
I will ask my mum, but I thought she said she had recon... Hmmm.

Amanda, I have a bore, but it is unusual in that there is no staining from it. The next street, where I'm currently renting, does have the rust stains. Ours must be at a different depth.
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waterproofing says...
This one is the great post in which we get the information regarding the waterproofing of our roof and home.
http://www.rainkingwaterproofing.com
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