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White Sapote &amp;quot;Kampong&amp;quot;

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Fruitylicious1 starts with ...
Hi everyone

My 3 years old grafted white sapote "Kampong" very prolific with good sized fruits from 5.5 cm and over. Can't wait to savor the first fruits of my labor 😍❤
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phil@tyalgum says...
It looks fantastic. I saw a fruiting specimen of that cultivar grown in a pot recently. Let us know what you think of the flavour
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Chad says...
I cut my Kampong back as it was the only two branches were growing vertically. I'll have to wait until next year. Bought from Daley's Feb 2016. What do you use for the potting mix?
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Fruitylicious1 says...
I bought mine 2017, and it fruited last year 2019 until now. I'm about to harvest some now and have a taste test. Fertiliser that I usually used are; Sudden Impact and Gyganic by Neutrog, or dynamic lifter with sulphate of potash. I sprinkle some Epsom salt too. I mix my own potting mix formula; premium potting mix plus perlite, eggshells, cocopeat or peat moss, fistful of chook poo and layer of green leaves vegetable scraps down the bottom before I pour the soil mixture. It works. I'm about to harvest the yellowish one on the picture 😋
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Original Post was last edited: 24th January 2020 5:11pm
Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Phil et al
Just did the much an anticipated ws kampong taste test. It's divine, creamy with a buttery texture and flavour and not overly sweet. It taste like sapodilla and custard apple but creamier with a hint of vanilla minus the strong sweetness of sapodilla and the hint acidity of the custard apple.The texture is like an avocado without the veins but much more buttery, creamier, fruitier and sweeter. Seeds are not big but rather thin. I scooped the buttery flesh down to the skin and put over my tongue but I can't detect any hint of bitterness or astringency.The scent and aroma is reminiscent of a ripe sapodilla though much weaker.It would be a great ice cream flavour I would say. I love it. I would dare commend that the taste is up there with the best. The trick is you have to pick at just the right time.
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Chad says...
Thanks. I've been lazy and using just a potting mix from Bunnings and using rock dust and organic slow release fertiliser every three months and feeding the roots with powerfeed one week and foliar feeding the other week.

I'll be changing my lazy ways
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Chad

I forgot to mention that you have to upgrade your pot too if it's still in a container. Mine is already in a 50cm pot now. And maybe next year I'll upgrade the pot again to 55cm.
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Chad says...
Yeah, it's overdue. It's been in a 35 litre bonsai bag for two years, I plan on getting a 50 liter one.
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Farouk says...
Wow Fruitylicious,

That's beautiful, job well done, my Lemon Gold has been in the ground since 2016, (originally purchased for extra pollination on my 2 Gold Prides which have both died due to chooks digging them up & family thinking it's a weed..) LG has tried to flower/fruit but haven't let it until this spring, all my fruit got a quarter to half of them scorched/burnt, on that first 40c day we had this summer. Hopefully some still ripen so I can taste it.

My son has just started to lighten the load on the tree & has been picking them dark green.

Here a photo a few months after planting in-ground Oct 2016 & a photo of 1 fruit hanging on a year later which disappeared, probably the birds.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Farouk

As some reviews about lemon gold and Kampong ws, lemon gold is not as prolific fruit bearer compared to Kampong which is very prolific. It would not drop any of its fruits and i have to cull some of it because of overproduction on such a young tree and mind you its also in a pot and its only in its 3rd year (2017) from purchased.
Anyhow good luck on your LG and please tell as something about the flavour once you harvested one.
Happy gardening mate 😁
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Linton says...
Surprised by your comment that 'Kampong is very prolific' as mine never fruits so I would hardly describe this variety as prolific. It had a couple on it 5 years ago and they were horrible and unpalatable, but since then it has never fruited again. Going by your descriptions, do you think that I might have got the wrong plant and that its not a Kampong at all?

The reason it doesn't fruit can't be the conditions its growing in as all my White Sapotes, about 10 varieties are grown side by side in large pots. Nearly all of the others fruit abundantly, its only the Kampong that doesn't perform so I intend to remove it and get rid of it now. Thank you.
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Farouk says...
Thanks, will do.

Here are some photos of my poor White Sapote Lemon Gold from yesterday.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Farouk

Your WS looks overgrown now. It need a good haircut after fruiting. To manage the height and width.
Happy gardening bro 😁
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Linton,

Some users in this forum also reported above average harvest from their ws kampong. We are both around Melbourne so there isn't much variation in weather conditions. It's growing in full sun in a 45 cm pot. I made a special potting mix for most of my trees. The recipe is; premium potting mix plus perlite, cocopeat or peat moss, crushed eggshells, few fistful of dynamic lifter and a bedding of green leaves and veggie offcuts down the bottom of the pot before i pour the special potting mix. Of course your potting will be a bit different from mine. Mostly I used sudden impact by Neutrog as fertiliser during spring and summer. It worked for me. I uploaded an image of my ws kampong for your perusal.
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Linton says...
Thanks for the info which is why I sent you the message a while back as I thought it may have been a pollination problem but you never replied. It really seems to me that there is something wrong with my tree as I have the same premium potting mix in all trees, they are all in the same location, watered, fertilised well and all are in 60 - 70cm pots. So it doesn't explain why all the other trees fruit well, and only the Kampong does not. Its still got me mystified. Thank you.
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Fruitylicious1 says...
Hi Linton

Did you try pruning the errant ws kampong? Might produce fruit on the new wood 🤔
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Linton says...
Thanks for the suggestion, I will try that. Cheers!
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Melbloke says...
Hi Linton, how did you end up going with the Kampong? Thanks
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Linton says...
Still no fruit on the Kampong after many years while the other ws varieties are all fruiting.
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Melbloke says...
Hello FL..
I was reading about your Kampong success with great interest as I just put mine in ground, I presumed you were in Tamworth because of your profile saying so. It's great to hear that yours is fruiting in Melbourne thanks
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Urban Bounty says...
Hi Linton, my Kampong is fruiting in Baxter not far from you. I bought it very advanced, in fact the daleys tag number says 165 so I presume it was the 165th cutting.

Do you have a youtube channel?
Thanks
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Linton says...
Dear Friend
No sorry. I don't have youtube.

Great to hear that you have fruiting Kampong tree and I hope they will taste divine. I have disposed of my tree once I worked out what the problem was. It became evident which was also concurred by others who inspected it, that the rootstock had taken over and the graft portion had died. Since the Kampong graft had failed and I had no interest in using the remaining vigorous rootstock to graft another plant on to it, decided to ditch the whole thing.

Now I have tasted about six of the varieties I'm growing, the clear winner is Lemon Gold which has superb flavour that is superior to any of the others in my opinion.
Salutations to you.....
Linton
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Urban Bounty says...
Thank you very much for your reply.
I had an opportunity to buy an 8 year old potted lemon gold when I bought my kampong but I did not have the room but maybe I should have made room going by your description.
I have a youtube channel called urban bounty and I will do an update on my kampong when the fruit is ready.
Thanks again Linton.
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Chad1 says...
Finally my Kampong has flower buds again. Just noticed them today, a few dozen
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