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BJ says... Jimmy, I’m so jealous! Is it a self-fertile variety? If so ... will it survive long-term in a pot, and where did you get it I never thought I could grow cherries in Rivervale – but you’re the suburb next door ... so maybe it is possible (although clearly your thumbs are greener than mine) Yummy! | About the Author BJ11 WA 14th October 2010 5:53pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Can they live in a pot all their lives Jimmy? Is it too ambitious to plant them both in the same pot? Would they be balanced as a multi-graft or would two plants be better? If one needs to go in the ground which one should? (I'm sure there are more pavers I could pull up to fit them in!) How far apart would they need to be to cross pollinate? | About the Author BJ11 WA 15th October 2010 7:59pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Allybanana - are you still looking for someone in Perth to purchase in 50 odd trees from Flemmings? (Do you know if it is 50 pairs or 50 trees total?) I'd personally be very interested in getting a minnie royal and a royal lee (the internet suggests 200-500 chill hours are required ... I'm willing to risk it for cherries.) I'm presuming you're still interestd in getting your hands on some. Have you spoken with any nurseries? Maybe if we indicated to a nursery there was a decent market they might assist (or we can bulk buy ourselves - and just divide them between all interested parties) | About the Author BJ11 WA 17th October 2010 4:31pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I've got the Flemings fruit expert calling me tomorrow to discuss these trees. (It is scary what e-mail addresses can be found on the internet!) Hopefully I'll be able to provide a clear answer for us all then. Even better, maybe a way ahead for us to legally obtain some cherries for our back yards! | About the Author BJ11 WA 19th October 2010 12:52pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... OK, I can't think of a funny reply to allybanana so I'll just launch into what I've found out! I've spoken to the head fruit person at Flemings. The Royal Lee and Minnie Royal are coming ... the official release is in the 1st week of June 2012. If we were to contact our local Dawson's gardening centre (who are one of Fleming's main distributers) in December 2011 they should be putting in their orders for 2012 so we can ensure our desires as home gardeners are taken into account. Yes - we have to wait ... but there is light at the end of the tunnel! These cherries have a pretty good wrap in the USA, and the lady I spoke with said they were actually pretty tasty (a benefit I guess of being the person in charge of fruit!) Optimally they need 350 - 400 hours of chill, but places with chill still get some crop ... so they are suited for Perth and Sydney and she believes from their testing they cherries should crop in these cities quite well (Besides, Jimmy can let us know how his babies go). Yippee!! In two years I might have my own cherries covered in blossom! | About the Author BJ11 WA 20th October 2010 7:27pm #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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allybanana says... Well done BJ i will ask my local nursury if they can put it in their winter bare rooted order for next year, no, its the year after that 2012. Maby i can justify buying more trees by then, i have gone a bit over board on my daleys orders lately. I am exited as i have two mature cherry trees that have never realy fruited in my yard, i want to top work them. Just through interest how many chill hours does flemmings class stella i can not find it on their website and everyone gives a different number. | About the Author Eden S-East NSW 20th October 2010 10:48pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... He he he Allybananan ... I call it delayed gratification! For me I've literally ran out of room - so these guys will need to go in pots and I don't have the pots yet so a wait isn't too bad. Flemings didn't say how many chill hours Stella required. The internet either suggests over 500 or 700-800 ... Irrespective of the fact that there are different ways of calculating chill hours I think is more than you or I would get! Apparently in the US some nurseries are suggesting the Royal Lee and Minnie Royal are 'no chill cherries'. The lady from Flemings was keen to correct this. They do need chill ... just much less than standard cherries. She said they would crop in Perth and Sydney. I probably won't get optimum chill - but we'll get enough for fruit for the home gardner (in other words, for commercial cropping a bit more chill is desirable). I'm guessing you'd be a smidge cooler than where I am so they might be optimum for you. The internet suggests they crop well in California. | About the Author BJ11 WA 21st October 2010 9:40am #UserID: 3414 Posts: 215 View All BJ11's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jimmy says... www.davewilson.com always has good tips for chill and variety info. The sell zaiger trees in USA as does flemings in Aus. | About the Author Jimmy Perth 21st October 2010 12:14pm #UserID: 2548 Posts: 511 View All Jimmy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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allybanana says... I love Dave Wilson’s website they are so optimistic in there chill hours, 200-300 chill hours for Minnie royal. That’s nearly as optimistic as my local nursery who sell high chill cherries to people in town which is right on the coast. When I queried about this they said they must be okay, people keep buying them. I tried to explain that the public were relying on the expert knowledge of the nursery staff, to no avail. It’s sad because it turns people off growing fruit trees. Dave Wilson nurseries don’t have Stella listed in their commercial cataloge for me to make a comparison using their chill values. The reason why I am interested is on the coast here Stella appears to give a light crop on a cold year, which is about one out of three years. As a comparison to Stella I can gauge other varieties and am also wondering why the prunes are just not bearing properly could it be chill hours do hey need more chill than stella some sites say so. | About the Author Eden S-East NSW 22nd October 2010 10:26am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jim says... Okay to answer my own question for the benefit of others. There is some bare rooted stock coming west (double grafted), which has already been sent out. I spoke to one of the main nursery chains in perth and they were only getting a small handful in. So assuming my experience was representative I would suggest getting in before these are snapped up. | About the Author electra Fremantle 29th May 2012 4:16pm #UserID: 3242 Posts: 112 View All electra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jim says... Hi Gus Ring the Forrestfield HQ (94536533), they know all about it, and you can reserve one as I did. They didn't specify a date but assume they will arrive sometime in the next few weeks. Also tell them that you would like to pick it up at your local Dawsons as they can send it there to save you the trip. | About the Author electra Fremantle 1st June 2012 12:08pm #UserID: 3242 Posts: 112 View All electra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jim says... Hi Gus I rang them again. I didn't speak to same person (forgot her name) however Trisha said for you to call back and to ask them to put the order in (just describe it to them ie flemmings double graft etc). She said that they may not know of the specific order but if you ask them to record it then it will be fine. | About the Author electra Fremantle 1st June 2012 5:00pm #UserID: 3242 Posts: 112 View All electra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... Thank you very much Jim. I gave them another call and spoke to Trisha and she has my details. Earlier in the day I also talked to Joondalup Dawsons and the guy there told me they were expecting to get in Lappin cherries in a couple of weeks. He hadn't heard of the mini royals or royal lee, but he may be confused. I hope he is. I have really been looking forward to giving these a go. Jimmy sounds like he has had great success | About the Author gus innaloo 1st June 2012 8:13pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... Thanks Jim, I hope so too. I have phoned them for the last couple of days but it sounds as if supplies trickle in slowly and go to people that have ordered them earlier than me. They had a couple in today but they were promised to someone else. It is encouraging to hear they wont sell things off that people are waiting for. Hope they call soon! | About the Author gus innaloo 23rd June 2012 8:33pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wazzbat says... I also rang today and got the same story Gus so hopefully I will be able to get my hands on one soon too? I was also happy to hear that they were holding their stock for others who had previously ordered them. I was also told that "yes they are" grafted onto a dwarf rootstock, which is good news for me if that's true? I also rang Wandilla Nursery where I was promptly told not to bother because it definitely wouldn't fruit where I live (East Vic Park) and they didn't have any in stock anyway. I'm alllowed to try aren't I? The lady I spoke to at Dawsons told me that they should fruit this year with the cold mornings we are having??? I guess unless I have one in my garden, I won't find out if one would fruit in my garden??? | About the Author Wazzbat 23rd June 2012 11:03pm #UserID: 5526 Posts: 166 View All Wazzbat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jim says... Hi Gus, I know what you mean. Until it is banked there is always a level of doubt. Yep, it is a double graft. There is nothing on the info sheet describing the rootstock but I was told by Dawsons it wasn't a dwarf. Probably should ring Flemings to confirm. Here are some photos.
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Jim says... Commiserations Wazz, I agree, if Flemings have the supply they will be common place next year. No worries Gus, I'm glad you got yours, it wouldn't have felt right after mentioning it here and then being the only one to get one. I think mine will go in the ground,still undecided though, as i have some empty wine barrels sitting around. | About the Author electra Fremantle 30th June 2012 3:10pm #UserID: 3242 Posts: 112 View All electra's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... Always difficult deciding these things. All my fruit trees are on notice at any stage. I shift them around regularly and am often surprised when suddenly something takes off. I had a black sapote that after three years seemed to have all but died in the ground. I pulled it out and stuck it in a pot expecting it to see out its days there. I was shocked to find it blossoming and growing fruit within a few months. I assume that when these cherry trees are dormant they may survive with no direct sunlight? I have a spot that gets no sun in winter that may be perfect for this tree. | About the Author gus innaloo 30th June 2012 3:54pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wazzbat says... From what I have heard, you are better off starting in a smaller pot. That way, after a couple of years, it makes it easier to transplant it into a bigger port with newer potting mix. You can keep upgrading the pot size as you re new the mix? I have that problem with my orange and mandarine plants which I planted into wine barrels straight up. Now I have no idea how to get them out to renew the potting mix??? Anyway, there might be a chance I can still get a cherry tree. Will know for sure by tomorrow. Very excited. Will let you all know. | About the Author Wazzbat 5th July 2012 9:13pm #UserID: 5526 Posts: 166 View All Wazzbat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... Fingers crossed for you Wazz. I hope you have some luck as we perthians must snap up what few opportunities arise for us. I plan to get the most humongous pot I can get to avoid having to repot in years to come. I have no idea how people repot a wine barrel full of potting mix. I guess you might be able to seat the barrel in a larger pot and cut it out with a saw. A wine barrel full of potting mix and tree must weigh a ton? | About the Author gus innaloo 6th July 2012 10:33am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wazzbat says... Hi Gus. Unfortunately you really need to replace the soil in the pot after 2 to 3 years at the latest otherwise the plant will struggle a bit. That's why I think you would be better off stepping up the pot size as you need to renew the soil/potting mix. I wish I has of done that with my orange and mandarine trees. That's what I plan to do with the new cherry tree I just brought home anyway! I got it. Dawson's rang me up and said that someone failed to pick up their tree. They tried calling him/her 6 times but no answer so their loss is my gain. I don't have to wait another 12 months after all. Another tip might be to leave the tree in the pot until the roots have established a bit. I have had a problem before trying to plant previously bare rooted trees. All the soil fell off and it was almost a disaster. I plan on leaving my tree in its pot for at least a few months. All this assuming you have not yet potted it already? Good luck. | About the Author Wazzbat 6th July 2012 3:27pm #UserID: 5526 Posts: 166 View All Wazzbat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... That is great news Wazz. Must be your lucky day because the ladys I was talking to were saying that they were having to hide them from queue jumpers. I suspect a few people missed out. That is good advice on the pots. I have done nothing so far but may opt for a smaller pot for the time being. I guess the problem is that eventually the tree will need a huge pot and the contents of that pot will one day need to be replaced. I guess that is a problem for the future and us cherry people should just count our lucky stars! | About the Author gus innaloo 6th July 2012 8:24pm #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wazzbat says... Thanks Mary. Good point. That's what I was planning on doing with my citrus. Was going to try cutting the roots nice a clean with a big saw while it's still sitting in the wine barrel. Hopefully I don't kill them? I think I have found a nice place to plant the cherry tree now though. Only problem is its out the front of the house so passers by might knock off any cherries we will hopefully get. Worth the punt to get a nice big cherry tree rather than keeping it in a pot. | About the Author Wazzbat 8th July 2012 7:02am #UserID: 5526 Posts: 166 View All Wazzbat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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gus says... I agree Wazzbat. Hopefully you will have so many cherries you wont know what to do with them. I have certain trees that I would be glad for the public to raid. I am sure other kinds of critters will be more of a problem. I don't think the people of perth will be that familiar with the look of a cherry tree. You can always cover them with nets that keep out all forms of raiders. | About the Author gus innaloo 8th July 2012 10:24am #UserID: 3596 Posts: 216 View All gus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wazzbat says... Haven't planted yet and I don't plan on pruning yet. I probably won't plant it out until next winter to be honest. And at that stage I dare say I will be pruning it prior to planting. If I was going to plant it now, I wouldn't bother pruning yet unless you are looking for a different shape? | About the Author Wazzbat 8th July 2012 9:37pm #UserID: 5526 Posts: 166 View All Wazzbat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I have baby peaches already :-O (low chill tree...but still - it's very early) I hear lots of folks are getting b/berries in Perth now too...nice winter bonus hey? And yet - my blueberries are still losing their leaves and not even leafing out...mustn't have been cold enough up here yet..? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. 400km north of Perth. 24th July 2012 9:24am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wazzbat says... My Blueberries have been struggling since I planted them more than a year ago :( They look dead atm. Most of my stonefruit have lost (or all but) lost their leaves now. Time to get the secateurs out soon :) My Crimson Baby Nectarine tree's leaves turned an awesome dark red before dropping off. It is nice to look at Julie. | About the Author Wazzbat 25th July 2012 8:14am #UserID: 5526 Posts: 166 View All Wazzbat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Fran Heydon says... West Australians can order low chill Cherry Trees from Dawsons Garden World online, delivery $40.00 or you can collect from Forrestfield. https://dawsonsgardenworld.com.au/product/double-grafted-cherry-minnie-royal-and-royal-lee-305mm-pot/ Website Description: Double Grafted Cherry Minnie Royal and Royal Lee 305mm Pot $79.95 Product Description Cross pollinating pair. Minnie Royal, rounded juicy, red fruit and Royal Lee, rounded to heart shaped fruit. Both varieties mature early December. Low chill varieties requiring around 200-300 chill hours. | About the Author Fran Heydon West Perth 31st August 2015 12:16pm #UserID: 11902 Posts: 1 View All Fran Heydon's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lionel_llc says... Hi Gus and Wazzbat, I have just bought a fleming's mini royal crimson cherry tree and was following this thread. I have noted in your earlier threads(2012), both of you were commenting that your cherry tree had not flowered. Did they eventually flowered and fruit after in 2013? Any tips on flowering and fruiting? | About the Author lionel_llc ST JAMES 6102 WA Australia 20th August 2023 7:46pm #UserID: 33757 Posts: 2 View All lionel_llc's Edible Fruit Trees |
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