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ringelstrumpf starts with ...
I don't want to criticize, because the forum is great as it is, but I have two suggestions:
In the forum, on the right side where the poster's name and location is i would like to see the climate zone(cool/temperate/subtropical/tropical or however you would name them). the same I would love to have in the "my fruit trees" and "comments" section.
I know that the nursery is in subtropical climate and often I'm not very sure weather a tree is suitable for our climate. This would help a lot.
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ringelstrumpf1
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22nd June 2011 8:05pm
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Mike says...
The American plant hardiness zone map with 10 zones in the US and Canada is used alot over there to check the suitability of plants.We might fit into their zones 5 to 13 or so in Australia based on average minimum july temperatures.We use a system loosley based on the Koppen climate classification but in foggy way.Warm temperate,subtropical,semitropical, cool temperate are examples of climates that are a bit hazy.Americans like to call Mediteranean climates subtropical and it all adds to the confusion.It is a great idea but hard to agree on.
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22nd June 2011 8:21pm
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ringelstrumpf says...
I have to admit that now I'm even more confused. OK the Americans have strange measurements but calling subtropical climate Mediterranean??
I think the Upper Mountains are cool temperate. And you cannot compare this to England because we have so much more sun, maybe more to an Andean climate.
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23rd June 2011 5:49pm
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Nick says...
Its a confusing system isnt it haha. Being in southern Vic, my climate is considered temperate but because I haven't seen sub-zero temps wouldnt that make it zone 10a and therefore subtropical??
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Jason says...
No it wouldn't be subtropical it's just zone 10 :) it only means frost free. That's the "hardiness zone" at what point the plant can survive cold.

The Californians have another system to determine if a plant is likely to grow called the "sunset zones" this takes into account other stuff besides how cold it gets
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23rd June 2011 7:06pm
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Mike says...
The difference between equatorial and tropical, and warm temperate and subtropical is fuzzy.Semitropical is usually considered zone 9 and 10 in the US but zone 9 becomes subtropical in the west.
Some reputedly tropcal species like lychees,longans and some mangoes don't fruit well or at all north of Innisfail on the coast because it gets too tropical.Trees with their suitable climate 'envelope' described in away that can be readily identified on the ground is needed.
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Jason says...
Those trees aren't properly topical though, you can grow all those in temperate areas if you have heat. Mildura has more than enough mumbo in the sun to grow that kind of tree
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Mike says...
Summer rain and humidity and a dry winter and spring would also help.Is that Portland,Oregan that you are in Jason and originally from Victoria?
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Jason says...
The Victorian Portland originally and still :)
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snottiegobble says...
Coastal areas alone can sustain flora that do not survive just a few Kms inland due to frosts so any new "hardiness zone" would need to be pretty exact!
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Mike says...
BOMs Australian Climate Zone map is pretty good on reflection.It divides the 5 basic zones into subtypes.Sydney,Melbourne,Toowoomba,Albany are Temperate but Perth,Mackay,Rockhampton,Atherton,north of Newcastle are subtropical.Darwin,Cairns and Townsville are tropical but Weipa is equatorial.
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