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rinmak starts with ... Hi everyone Exactly one month ago I transplanted two mango trees in to my back yard. The person I got them from told me they are KP variety and approx 3 years old, grown from seed. Both were quite green and healthy with only a few leaves having a slight tip browning on them before the transplant When I planted them in to the new location I mixed about 20% cow manure, 30% organic compost and 50% original sandy soil (Perth coastal plain) in to backfill around the root ball. Since transplanting 1 tree has taken things better than the other (see pics). Since then I have been applying seasol every few days and an application of blood and bone but the bad one doesnt seem to be improving. My questions... 1) Is the tree likely to bounce back? Can this be a normal behaviour for some post transplant 2) Would I be helping or hindering with the fertilizer applications? 3) is there anything people can think of that I can do to give it a better chance at bouncing back? Pruning/stripping leaves etc? Thanks in advance! Ryan
| About the Author rinmak Perth 27th August 2014 9:53pm #UserID: 10415 Posts: 8 View All rinmak's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Seems to me too much TLC - even for perth should have waited till soil warms to 15c and mangos dont need alot of fertilizers - in fact what your doing is maybe killing them as still too cold - plants dont show instant reactions - take off all whats on top without damaging surface roots and just put on plain pine bark mulch and wait till warmer conditions and reassess in November | About the Author Markmelb , 27th August 2014 10:16pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Boris Spasky 27th August 2014 10:21pm #UserID: 7085 Posts: 184 View All Boris Spasky's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author rinmak Perth 27th August 2014 10:24pm #UserID: 10415 Posts: 8 View All rinmak's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Mangos do well in pots too - if they survive make at least a metre diam circle or bigger as you have the room there - you shhould see buds soon near top - if they dont survive put a new one in - try a Keit or Palmer or grow a Honey Gold from seed from December fruits - better plant than KP in cooler conditions I think so far | About the Author Markmelb , 27th August 2014 11:08pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT1 says... rinmak, any tree that has to compete with a lawn is in jeopardy, especially a new one. Apart from competition, the chemicals/fertilisers you use to keep a lawn beautiful may be detrimental to the tree. I agree with Markmelb that you must clear a wider circle underneath the tree - imagine the canopy of the tree when grown and keep that space clear of grass, then mulch it. You don't have to dig up the grass, just cover it with say 10 layers of wet newspaper or equivalent of cardboard and put mulch on top. At present if you can do that and then water it well, presuming you'd dug a good hole when planting you might be able to save the tree. Do not fertilise until you see new growth. | About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 28th August 2014 8:19am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Hmmm, the one in the second pic doesn't look too healthy. Mangoes usually move well. If everything was done right, it should pick up. If I move anything, I do it all in August, good time for here in NSW at least. the tree is at it's slowest growth period just before the ground starts to warm. I have some experience in moving several mangoes, one needed an excavator to get it out of the ground and is still doing well.
| About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 28th August 2014 8:20am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 28th August 2014 8:37am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author sternus1 Australia 28th August 2014 9:02am #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie W says... rinmak, something else I would do, though you won't get quick results: put up some support on those fences and grow creepers. It will give you a much more sheltered environment, as well as looking more attractive. I visited some people a while ago in the northern suburbs, close to the beach. Their fruit trees in front were doing poorly and they had no idea why. They thought the lawn growing up to the trees would be a good 'mulch'. Their trees also were very exposed, with no other plants to protect them from wind etc. Get planting with more trees and shrubs if you can. @John Mc - what sternus said! | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 28th August 2014 1:29pm #UserID: 182 Posts: 103 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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rinmak says... Well guys I have taken the advice on board and mulched a bit further out around the base of the tree. Heres some pics and some questions: - I scraped back a small section of the trunk and there appears to be green inside it still. Is this a good sign that the tree is still alive and could bounce back? - Some people are telling me its beneficial to remove say 70% of the leaves from the tree to help it recover. Opinions on this?
| About the Author rinmak Perth 1st September 2014 12:50pm #UserID: 10415 Posts: 8 View All rinmak's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author gimme TINGALPA,4173,QLD 1st September 2014 1:12pm #UserID: 2525 Posts: 236 View All gimme's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... I will weight in my 2 cents. If still green after you have scrap off the bark, then yes the tree is still alive. But prob just and its touch and go. Removing the leaves wont help as the leaves are brown and dead already. The 70% rule probably applys to reducing transpiration lost and reduce tree stress at transplant, but for your mango, what it is showing is severe shock and die back already. I suspect the current signs are due to stress and shock and the fertilisers only compounded the lack of water uptake. Not a lot you can do now but to wait and hope that the die back stops at some point and new shoots to emerge. If you really want to save tree, i would dug it back out from the soil, soak roots in water and a little seasol for a few hours, trim dead roots and branches but dont cut off green trunks,replant in pot with good potting mix and keep soil moist. And just hope, its 50/50. Good luck! | About the Author Brain Brisbane 1st September 2014 1:17pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author gimme TINGALPA,4173,QLD 1st September 2014 1:38pm #UserID: 2525 Posts: 236 View All gimme's Edible Fruit Trees |
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rinmak says... Thanks for the input guys, I did suspect it would likely not improve from here. Next time I have access to them is November so it will stay in the ground until then and if its still shown no life I will replace with a younger, grafted one. Any suggestions as to a reputable place to buy a grafted tree in pot? And should I aim for a KP variety or is there any other that may suit the location and soil I have better? | About the Author rinmak Perth 1st September 2014 2:12pm #UserID: 10415 Posts: 8 View All rinmak's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 1st September 2014 3:38pm #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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