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sternus1 starts with ... So I spoke to somebody from pacific fresh today, who told me that Dekopon will 'Absolutely no doubt' be licensed out as tree sales in the future. However, they also 'Don't know when' and they have 'no immediate plans' to do this. so There you go people. It's coming, someday. s | About the Author sternus1 Australia 23rd April 2014 1:57pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... I reckon closer to 4 than 7 John, judging by the size and condition of your plants. Citrus grows to fruiting stage faster than a lot of things from seed, and it's down the nature of the beast after all. You make me wish I'd planted some seed! I was pretty sure that pacific fresh would license out the dekopon, just way too lucrative not to. Had some free time today, found the company phone number and thought why not. I got the feeling from the person I spoke to that I wasn't the first to call and ask. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 23rd April 2014 2:43pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Yes, I'm growing them in a soilless mix with a weak amount of hydroponic solution added to every watering. They get a regular rest while excess salt is flushed out, then back to force feeding. Might have to slow up now the nights are cooling off. They're only 8 months old from the day I planted the seed. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 23rd April 2014 5:35pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Boris Spasky says... I'm more interested in tasting the first commercial crop of Gold Nugget mandarins later this season. A late variety, developed in California and seedless. From UCR, "The taste is extremely sweet when mature (brix 15.0% in March, 17.5% in May) with a very rich flavor, considered by professional taste panels to be one of the very best flavored citrus in the world." Hope it lives up to the hype. | About the Author Boris Spasky 23rd April 2014 11:49pm #UserID: 7085 Posts: 184 View All Boris Spasky's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... Yes, there's a lot of hype over the Sumo's as well. I'm sure they all taste amazing straight off the tree, but lose their mojo very quickly, or they're not moving them from paddock to plate quick enough, not sure which one. I bought $50 worth of Sumo's last year, I think for around $8kg, and some were pretty ordinary. I ended up with about 8 seeds with half having multi embryos. I carefully separated the secondary shoots as they come up and are growing them on separately. There are other people that have at least a year's head start on me, I'd like to see how their seedlings are coming along, last season was my first access to the fruit. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 24th April 2014 8:19am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sean says... Hi John, You have done a fantastic job getting those seedlings to that size so quickly. Have you considered grafting them onto an established Citrus tree? You should have fruit in no time doing that. Also I noticed that one of your seedlings is a bit thorny, do you think that one is possibly not a clone? | About the Author sean Traralgon 2nd September 2014 4:43am #UserID: 6927 Posts: 26 View All sean's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author David Springwood 2nd September 2014 6:03am #UserID: 1961 Posts: 670 View All David's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... QUOTE "sean says... Hi John, You have done a fantastic job getting those seedlings to that size so quickly. Have you considered grafting them onto an established Citrus tree? You should have fruit in no time doing that. " sean, I have six trifoliata rootstocks ready to go. I'll be bud grafting Sumo onto them this December. From what I've read, I don't think it's going to speed up the process, there is a time/cycle regime the buds must endure before they will fruit.
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About the Author Brain Brisbane 2nd September 2014 9:59pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... In general it is not thought that grafting(etc) Citrus seedlings onto rootstock alone promotes flowering. Grafting onto large rootstocks or reworking onto an established tree will cause rapid growth and size increase, so that the seedling scion reaches fruiting size quickly. That said, if grafting onto rootstock promotes growth rate, it will shorten time to flowering. In my experience grafting onto rootstock has caused flowering before the original seedling flowered, but as Citrus are complex hybrids of ancestral species, it may not work for all varieties. If you are working with unique seedlings i would graft them onto rootstocks, as multiple copies are handy in case the original dies. | About the Author jakfruit etiquette vic 3rd September 2014 6:47am #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... QUOTE/ "jakfruit etiquette says... If you investigate the growing regime used by Japanese Dekopon(Sumo) farmers, they have pretty strict targets for brix and fruit quality for fruit marketed as "Dekopon". /END QUOTE Apparently they store the fruit from 20 to 40 days after picking for the acid levels to drop and the brix to rise? Some fruit I've tried still had high acid levels for my taste. I should go get another couple of kilo's and gradually consume them over several weeks to see if the acid level drops further. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 3rd September 2014 7:20am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 3rd September 2014 1:12pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JohnMc1 says... I thought I posted on here somewhere that they store the fruit for 20 to 40 days to decrease the acid levels and increase the brix before letting them out the door. With the company taking random samples, you are no doubt going to get some sour fruit. I usually buy $20 worth at a time, the last three lots have produced zero seeds. I only have five seeds so far this year. I don't know why I'm still collecting seed, I have plenty of budwood and plant material for propagation. They have huge spikes, similar to Kei Apple. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 8th September 2014 4:55pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... I am not sure if my lot will last weeks, as the skin is starting to show signs of decay, though i like to entertain the thoughts of sweeter sumo. I think the mandarins this year, incl all other vars, has been more misses than hits, with many of them have been particularly sour, even oranges are not faring better. Maybe its a seasons thing, as i recall a few years back, with a very hot spring/summer, the mandarins were sweet and the oranges were oversized. | About the Author Brain Brisbane 9th September 2014 12:04am #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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