AVOCADO ,Interesting shape , ' RUSSELL' variety , FLORIDA , U.S.A. (forum)

RolFlor a starts with ...
What is the flavour,and are there any in Australia?
http://trec.ifas.ufl.edu/tfphotos/update-11-21-06/russel-avocado-3up.jpg

Time: 3rd January 2009 10:06am

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Jon says...
Wow, that is certainly interesting. There's none on amazon or ebay. I'm also wondering where I could get a Gwen avocado tree from. These trees are hard to track down.

Time: 3rd January 2009 10:09am

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RolFlor a says...
32 cm long avocado fruit!
'Russell' (originated in Islamorada in Florida Keys); pearshaped at apex with long neck giving it a total length up to 32 CM! (13 inches); skin, smooth, glossy, thin, leathery; flesh of excellent quality; seed small. Season: Aug. and Sept. Tree bears well and is recommended for home gardens.
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/avocado_ars.html

Time: 3rd January 2009 10:34am

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RolFlor a says...
32CM LONG AVOCADO!
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Time: 3rd January 2009 1:44pm

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Pauline says...
WOW, that would be a good one to have.

Time: 3rd January 2009 9:08pm

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Kieran says...
I planted this by seed in my backyard and it started fruiting after about 5 years.
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Time: 4th July 2012 2:22am

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the pimpernel says...
there's one here in the national park. just grafted one last year and put it in my backyard. stay tuned for updates. fruit up to 25cm long with beautiful swans neck

Time: 18th April 2016 10:45am

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Linton says...
Hi Kieran

Any chance of sending some seeds of your "Russell" avocado? How big is your tree? I'm assuming that it is not an overly large tree as it is recommended for home gardens. There seems to be no information if it is a type A or B. Do you have another tree growing to pollinate it?

Anyway, I'm still very interested to try it so please let me now if you can send. Thanks. Nice day......

Time: 19th April 2016 11:25am

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Kieran says...
Hi Linton, don't know how I can send the seed from here. I live in North Karnataka, India and the seeds don't last that long. the main fruiting is from June to August and winter fruiting yields from February to May (sporadic)
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Time: 21st April 2016 3:41am

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the pimpernel says...
Linton your problem is that the seed probably wont produce a tree true to type and could take 5-10 years to fruit.
You need to get some budwood and graft it as I did here.

Time: 21st April 2016 9:19am

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Linton says...
No worries Kieran, the transit times can be quite long through the post and I don't think avocado seeds remain viable for very long if they dry out. It would have been nice to grow this graceful "swan-neck" variety though.

Cheers!



Time: 21st April 2016 10:46am

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genipapo says...
Hi Kieran
I would like to exchange info on your avocado tree. Could you please email me at cperesc@oi.com.br


Time: 22nd April 2016 10:56am

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Markmelb says...
Pimpernel- if you have fruit now would be interesting to see photo of juvenile form of fruit - if they are similar to Kierans tree could graft one for Linton next january? Or before they flush - wouldnt mind putting a branch on mine too? Is it an A variety you think?

Time: 22nd April 2016 5:54pm

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Kieran says...
have done so, Genipapo

Time: 23rd April 2016 4:52am

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the pimpernel says...
Hi MarkMelb. Its a B type. I have some nice pohtos of fruit from mother tree but cant seem to post them (jpgs). Any one offer me any hints?. Can send you budwood spring if you want.


Time: 24th April 2016 5:19pm

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Markmelb says...
Hi maybe your photos are too big - under 1mb works best.
Also have had best success grafting mid January.

Time: 27th April 2016 2:08pm

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the pimpernel says...
Thats interesting re january graft. Which method?

Will try again with photo.
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Time: 29th April 2016 4:34pm

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the pimpernel says...
BTW this variety has beautiful creamy delicious flesh similar to the Secondo I have growing here. Seed is round/ large but the flesh right up the neck is perfect
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Time: 29th April 2016 4:40pm

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Bella14 says...
Hi Pimpernel,
Thanks for sharing your photos. If I might jump in, I would be very interested in getting some bud wood for grafting if available:)I have been looking for such an avocado for ages after I bought one at a local market it was the best ever and have not seen anything like it til your photos:)

Time: 22nd May 2016 11:06am

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the pimpernel says...
Hello Bella.I don't believe post would be the best way to send budwood. But if you are in the Shoalhaven you are not far from me at Bundeena. The fully grown tree is just round the corner from here and you could visit spring. Alternatively I do travel down the south coast on the odd occasion and could possibly drop some in in spring (best time to graft).

Time: 26th May 2016 11:29am

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Bella says...
Hi Pimpernel, I have tried several times to get this message to send through but failed....hope it works this time. That would be wonderful and thankyou however am unsure how to go about exchanging postal details etc as this is an online forum? Let me know if you have any ideas...
Much appreciated :)

Time: 29th September 2016 10:13am

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the pimpernel says...
Bella as I mentioned before don't think post is a great idea anyway.
If you like can give you directions how to find the tree. Come up and camp at Bonnie Vale camp ground (Bundeena) right next to the avo in question.

Time: 30th September 2016 9:02am

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Linton says...
Dear The Pimpernel

I too would very much wish to grow this long necked avocado. Since I am in Melbourne it is a bit far to come there but I am sure that cuttings could be sent successfully. There have been many avocado scions sent by post previously which arrived still fresh and were successfully propagated. They just need to be wrapped in some moist paper towell and put in a plastic bag or cling wrap to prevent them drying out.

I dearly hope you are willing to oblige and if so please contact me at:
lintonius at hotmail.com

so I can give you my address and arrange to reimburse you the post costs. This avocado is a very unusual and rare type here in Australia so it is worth getting a few a people to grow it to ensure it's survival. Wait to hear from you.
Cheers!

Time: 3rd October 2016 2:58pm

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Bella says...
Hi Pimpernel,
Thanks for that - i have actually been to that campground but didnt notice an avocado tree.....You mentioned you come to the coast would you be coming at all this year closer to spring?


Time: 7th April 2017 9:59pm

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the pimpernel says...
Guys sorry had some health issues but firing on maybe 5 cylinders now.

I will look to send some budwood once flowering flush has died down and we get some fresh growth. My little tree in the back yard survived a nasty possum attack last year and is flowering profusely now.
I hope to get a fruit or 2 off it this season although it is still only 1 metre tall (but quite spreading).
As a matter of interest my Secondo, now 3 metres tall, had more than 70 fruit this past season. Fruit 3 times the size of Hass and we have been harvesting for 4 months. Never get sick of eating them!

Time: 19th September 2017 5:11pm

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Mango Mike says...
The Pimpernal....I two would love to get some scionwood Of the Russell & Secondo Avo's..... Could you contact me via e/mail mike.rule@hotmail.com Thanks...Mike

Time: 22nd September 2017 10:00pm

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Mango Mike says...
the pimpernel.... I would like to get some more of the Russell scionwood.... I see that your e/mail has changed.... Could you please contact me again....Many Thanks Mike

Time: 5th August 2019 8:27am

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Blackgold says...
Hi Pimpernal
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and pictures and info on these 2x varieties.
I'm in Sydney and do a lot of grafting as well.
Will take a trip down to Bonnie Vale Camp ground.
Can you direct me where the tree is specially when I get to the camp ground.
Hope you are feeling better and your health is ok.
just googled Bonnie Vale Camp ground.
Apparently the camp grounds are closed until further notice.partial re_opening dec.2019 due to asbestos found in the campsite area.
Can anyone elaborate more info on this.
Would you be able to spare some budwood
If I pop over to your place.
Cheers
Roger

Time: 5th August 2019 10:28pm

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SRose says...
Hi all! This longstanding thread is amazing.

I finally have moved to Southeast QLD and I can make my dream garden.. my garden of Eden. I really want to get a Russell variety.

Pimpernel, did you get a lot of fruit after 5 years? How is it going? Blackgold did you ever get to the Bonnie Vale camping ground and find a cutting to graft, a fruit or a viable stone? I would really love to find something, and if I do I can share it with all of you.
If anyone gets a hold of one or is interested still in searching, please email me at srm6420@hotmail.com Thanks!
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Time: 29th March 2020 3:42am

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Marmot1 says...
@Blackgold
I went there, obviously some people don't care about the asbestos. Right now it's flowering, not good time to cut branches.

@pimpernel
It might be A type, is it to the right hand of the path? Close to the entrance of bonnie vale camp site?

Time: 21st September 2020 2:05pm

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Avo L134 says...
Googled Russell avocado and it came up as type A.

I have the standard Hass avocado and have desperately looking for any type B cutting/scion. Is there anyone on this forum that can send me a type B?

Time: 19th October 2020 1:16pm

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Marmot1 says...
I came to check that avocado tree in the campsite, there's no fruits in that tree, not a single one. Very disappointing.
Considering the season, it's about to get ripe or already ripe.Either picked all by visitors or it's biennial, or worse, its yield is very low. If it's due to latter two causes, combined with the insipid taste, perhaps it's why commercial growers don't want it.

Time: 8th February 2021 12:22pm

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Avo L134 says...
Oh bummer. Has anyone on this forum confirmed that the tree in question at the campsite is in fact a Russell?


Time: 10th February 2021 9:02am

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Marmot1 says...
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Did you get branches from the tree near a BBQ? I suspect it's the one, as the leaves are thinner than other types, smelling like Bacon's if you tear leaves.


Time: 10th February 2021 3:46pm

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Avo L134 says...
Just wanted confirmation before making a trip out there.
Has anyone actually grafted this particular tree and subsequent fruit from it?

Time: 12th February 2021 2:55pm

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Aliguddu says...
Hi,Need help with hass avacado,i had a problem with chlorine in water so i had been cuted down but I left few leafs to,I thought will grow again but all buds when shoot out with burn leafs not getting out normal leafs,suggestion please
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Time: 13th March 2021 5:41pm

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Avo L134 says...
No sure if possible but try watering with collected rain water if you believe the high chlorine level in your tap water that is doing this damaged.
Or consider "aging" your water before using it on your HASS. Aquarist aged or treat their tap water before doing a water change on their fish tank. Obviously, this would be a very short term solution, more to provide if it is in fact a chlorine related problem.
If it is the high chlorine level in your tap, then I don't think there is a long term solution for you.

Time: 15th March 2021 12:19pm

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Blackgold1 says...
Hi AvoL134
Sorry for the long delay.
Haven't been on here of late .
I did get down to Bundeena and did pick up a few scion wood.
I did a couple of grafts and I do have 2x graft taken.
My trees have not grown too much as we are just coming out of winter but they haven't died yet.
I think the Long necks are this tree as I recall the Pimpernel had a photo of one with a pen as a reference.
When I was there I counted 3x avocados on the tree but they were about 5cm long only.
I did pop back a month or so later but they were all gone.
The shape were just like the long necks.
Arose I hope you get to read this.
You say you a in Queensland.
I read somewhere that Russell is available up there at one of the Nursery.will let you know when I find it.
Due to lockdown...don't know when I can get back to Bundeena.
I did get some photos of the arvo.
Will try and put on forum when I find it again.
Stay safe all.

Time: 17th August 2021 11:49pm

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Blackgold1 says...
Photos of Bundeena longneck avocado

Enjoy...and be safe all
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Time: 18th August 2021 12:14am

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Blackgold1 says...
Photos taken in Dec 3othish 2019

Time: 18th August 2021 12:16am

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Blackgold1 says...
Photos taken in Dec 3othish 2019
Hi S rose
Please read my latest thread.
It was meant for you as well.Cheers

Time: 18th August 2021 1:33am

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Avo L134 says...
Yeah, the pics does look promising in regard to identifying the avocado as a "long Neck".
Nice one :)

Time: 19th August 2021 12:24pm

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Marmot1 says...
Great news to hear,
@Blackgold1
There're around 3 avocado trees there (well, I can spot them far away), 2 of them are likely. Which one is the correct one? The one close to the BBQ area with nearly no trees around or the one surrounded by huge trees?
I took some from the one near the BBQ, which stood alone, but seems there are some incompatibility with my rootstocks (no issues on Reed though).

Time: 20th August 2021 10:49am

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Pimpernel says...
Return of the Pimpernel, yes Im still alive and kicking. After 4 or 5 unsuccessful years I am very hopeful 2023 could be the year for this long neck avocado, perhaps a Russell. Seems to me it simply will not fruit under temps that work for Secondo and Hass. But currently we've got a bit of a heatwave here in Sydney (and currently masses of flowers) so fingers crossed. If this type is as they say a Florida type it explains why it wont fruit. Simply too cold at flowering seems to need minimum 25C and 30C probably much more conducive. Updates following. Having my own bees should also help now. Sent budwood to Rosewood Qld a few years back. Any updates? Pimpernel. BTW tree at Bonnie Vale almost dead due to big hi tides last year so am very hopeful can continue this strain. Cant see any point growing it south of Sydney without much more global warming.....

Time: 16th September 2023 11:36am

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Pimpernel says...
Yep thats the one. Hope your grafts are progressing. I have possibly 2 fruit set on my tree this year but have been disappointed before so fingers crossed. Last season was a shocker. Even the Secondo went on strike. Regards.

Time: 26th October 2023 10:55am

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Blue skies says...
Hi Pimpernel, how’s your grafted Russell doing? Is the mother tree still alive? Ta.

Time: 19th October 2024 8:16pm

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