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I recently bought a carob tree, and am curious to know. Can I tell the gender of the tree I have or do I just buy another and hope for the best.
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14th February 2011 8:40am
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Jantina says...
You can't tell until it flowers, which if it's a seedling could take many years. For the home grower who only wants one tree your best bet is to pay the money and buy a grafted Clifford which is a hermaphrodite and has good beans.
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14th February 2011 11:07am
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fruitist says...
Jan, where can I buy this grafted clifford "wild honey of John the Baptist"? My relations in Borneo went to middle-east and brought some seeds back and they grew in hot-humid tropics.
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fruitist says...
Sorry, not "wild honey" but "locust".
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Jantina says...
Hi fruitist, I got mine from a wholesale grower Limestone Station but as it happens Daleys do them and when I checked have 12 in stock.
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15th February 2011 10:26am
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J says...
My little clifford (1 foot tall) is busy flowering. Will be interesting to see if it forms any fruit. Easy tree to look after. Got it from daleys.
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15th February 2011 12:49pm
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Jantina says...
Ah J, that little fruit botanical garden of yours is going to be wonderful. Bet it's grown a heap since I saw it last.
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15th February 2011 1:58pm
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ringelstrumpf says...
How is your climate, wet or dry and do you have long hot summers? I thought this is what you need for Carob.
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15th February 2011 1:58pm
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Jantina says...
Who is the question for ringelstrumpf?
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15th February 2011 2:00pm
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J says...
hey jantina, It grown about 5 inches, but it's healthy. The thing to keep in mind is the clifford is about a meter away from a ten meter tall gum tree. So I'm not sure if that's slowing down the growth. Eitherway the clifford is flowering and growing very slowly.. and now my backyard officially has no more room for trees. All spots taken!

And ringel if that question is for me: I'm in the dandenong ranges near melbourne. Dry summers and wet winters. The Clifford carob seems fine with this.
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15th February 2011 2:08pm
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ringelstrumpf says...
We're in the Mountains, this year and the last summer was wet, and maybe carobs don't like the wet.
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15th February 2011 2:28pm
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J says...
I've gotten truckloads of rain, Ringel and my carob doesn't seem to mind it at all.
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fruitist says...
Anyone here living in Queensland and have a fruiting Carob tree?
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Jason says...
A guy here has one fruiting in his backyard no problem. Long way from QLD but worth a mention :P. I only have a couple of seedlings, they grow pretty well but I'd say still years from flowing since it's only about 9 feet x 9 feet
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15th February 2011 4:38pm
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ringelstrumpf says...
I might get two of the clifford. I have to mound them because of the drainage and protect them from the sheep.
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15th February 2011 6:16pm
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speedy says...
My 'Clifford' has been in the ground 3yrs now and is just about to ripen it's first pods this autumn.
its about 1.4m h x 1.4m wide
...that's a guess- too lazy to go and measure it atm :-P
I'll check later when I go to pick capers.
the other cvs. , planted at the same time, haven't flowered yet.
I expect them to flower next spring.
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fruitist says...
Hi Speedy, How many pods on your Clifford? And how long is each pod?
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speedy says...
The Clifford has about 40 pods from 6 racemes.
about 150mm or a bit longer....
some smaller and are a bit withered at the distal end,
maybe due to unseasonal humid weather this year.
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24th February 2011 10:40pm
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John Mc says...
I've heard it takes years for Carob seedlings to flower. How do you explain this 3 to 4 yo seedling? It's a pity it appears to be a male at this stage.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Great shots there John.. I have a couple of named varieties, Sfax (female) and Clifford (hermaphrodite) which are flowering in the rain.. hope it's not too wet for the pods to ripen whenever that is.
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John Mc says...
I read they can be trioceous? (spelling?) for the uninitiated, male + female + hermaphrodite.
There might be hope yet, I'll have to go over it with a magnifying glass.
I thought it abnornal for Carob to flower in it's 3rd - 4th year?
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18th April 2012 9:55pm
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Well those sticky looking flattish green structures look like they may be female flowers amongst the anthers.. I'm not familiar with the carob flowers' structure but you might be in luck.
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Speedy says...
They're male for sure.
yes it is unusual to have them flower so young.
might have to graft a female onto it and leave some male branches or just top work with a hermaphrodite cv.

carob pods ripen in Autumn.
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John Mc says...
Yes I have a Clifford in a pot.
Do they graft well?. what type of graft is commonly used on Carob and when is it typically done?
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Speedy says...
"T-bud, chip bud or patch bud ...
usually done in spring (Oct to early Dec) when the scion buds are mature and the bark on the rootstock is slipping and active."
I.Batlle & J.Tous -Carob Tree-
International Plant Genetic Resources Institute.(1997)
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25th April 2012 12:05am
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John Mc says...
Oh, right then, just as you do with citrus. It might have to wait a couple of years, my Clifford is too small to rob it of any propagating material just yet.
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jennyv says...
Hi All I've just got my carob minie tree(0.80cent.); and is full of flowers is a Cliford one and got it from Daleys I just have to wait and see if I get any fruit I'm hoping for some fruits not too many lol
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Jon M says...
Hi Jenny, how much did your tree cost and did you get it straight from Daleys.
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jennyv says...
Hi Jon:

Yes I got it straight from Daleys and pay 39.60 for the tree plus 39.00 for delivery and Spraying since I live in W.A.
Regards.
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5th January 2013 2:17pm
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jennyv says...
I do have to make a correction though My Carob tree is 0.38 centimetres tall The only concern that I have at the moment is that the bottom leaves are turning yellow and falling I'm just waiting for Daleys advice :(
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5th January 2013 2:43pm
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denise1 says...
A few years ago I gave a grafted hermaphrodite carob tree to a freind. It turned out to just be a donkey bean type. Not fit for human consumption.
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regi says...
Clifford after 2 1/2 year in ground. Live in the eastern suburbs of Brisbane. It has a couple of flowers now.
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