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Ish starts with ... I am perplexed... I understand that the term 'best' is relative and depends on desired characteristics... However, everything I read tells me that 'Krasuey' cv is right up there - prolific, tasty and often 'everbearing'. That being so, why is it so hard to source?!? I have been searching for 18minths with no luck... Even Daley's has been 'seeking propagation material' at length. Surely someone is growing / propagating it somewhere? It remains top of my wish list... I would love some advice from the experts! | About the Author Ish ,4118,QLD 11th May 2016 12:52pm #UserID: 10566 Posts: 26 View All Ish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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David says... Im no expert and currently don't grow Sapodilla, but yes you are right in thinking it is up there with the best, if not the best cultivar available. You are also right in thinking its the best but this is subjective, due to lots of variables, and lastly yes I to have been looking for the last 10 yrs to find this cultivar,hard to source yes ,impossible to find probably not ,however as you said someone has it and is not eager to distribute it.To me this cultivar rates along side my own search for Mammea Americana,it to is the elusive "White Whale" to corn someone elses phrase. All I can say is good luck searching and if you come across either PLEASE let me know.Thanks .David | About the Author David Springwood 14th May 2016 10:37am #UserID: 1961 Posts: 670 View All David's Edible Fruit Trees |
Tommoz says... Really only Daleys produces named cultivars of sapodilla. I'm guessing something happened to their source tree for budwood. Try Helga's nursery near Cairns. Their online catalogue doesn't include everything they grow. Maybe just plant a seedling for now and graft over when you get your hands on a scion, people are indeed growing it. | About the Author Tommoz Sydney 15th May 2016 1:28pm #UserID: 7219 Posts: 340 View All Tommoz's Edible Fruit Trees |
Ish says... Thank-you all... Glad it isn't just me being clueless! Markmelb, I put a BKD110 and C55 in 2015. They are doing quite well (still young but one little flower on the C55, which is as tall as me!) other than the ants madly trying to farm scale all over them... Think the cvs I found have all ultimately come from Daleys - found at Turners and Templex respectively. Oxley Nursery has some v happy seedlings at the moment... (for those interested). Tommoz, I might take your advice and grab a seedling for potential future grafting... As David said, Krasuey is my White Whale! Think of me if you have the good fortune to track one... I will do the same! | About the Author Ish ,4118,QLD 16th May 2016 7:32am #UserID: 10566 Posts: 26 View All Ish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Bangkok Thailand 17th May 2016 3:12am #UserID: 11594 Posts: 370 View All Bangkok's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Theposterformerlyknownas says... Chester sold a few a couple of years back at Forbidden Fruits Nursery, but I think he sold up so they don't do the rarer cvs any more, just ordinary (mostly seedling)stuff? Anyway, Im ashamed to say I killed one. Out of the four I had, this is the only one that died and the others powered on (Prolific way too much). I know of a few trees up north, but I think they are a pain to graft, which may explain why Daley's charges like a wounded bull for them nowadays. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Keperra 17th May 2016 8:54am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
| About the Author Tommoz Sydney 17th May 2016 9:14pm #UserID: 7219 Posts: 340 View All Tommoz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bangkok says... I can easy get lamut seeds but have no idea about the variety. I bet even the vendor has no idea. I grafted lamut sida (wongyai) onto a giant sapodilla from vietnam and it grows well. That sapodillatree also grew fast. Personally i like the giant lamut from vietnam more than the Thai lamut. It's bigger, not so soft and a little less sweet. But i culled this tree because it's nothing special to have (for me), soon the fruit will be on the markets. | About the Author Bangkok Thailand 19th May 2016 3:24am #UserID: 11594 Posts: 370 View All Bangkok's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author bbudd thailand 12th June 2016 12:37pm #UserID: 14063 Posts: 16 View All bbudd's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... I am getting some of these seeds from the above. Can anyone advise if seeds of Krasuey Sapodilla will grow true to type? In some ways, seeds are better down here for borderline species in Melbourne's climate as I have found seedling trees to be much more hardy than grafted. Previously I had a grafted Sapodilla but it promptly died. The seedling tree that I'm currently growing is powering along and not fazed at all by the winters here. | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 14th June 2016 1:08pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 16th June 2016 1:19pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bangkok says... If Krasuey is the same as Thai lamut i don't see the fuzz about them. Really the giant from Vietnam is a better sapodilla and (a lot) bigger. Too bad you aussies have those extreme rules or me or our other Thai member could send you scions. For me the lamut comes more close to candy than to fruit, it is extreme sweet and like eating pure brown sugar. | About the Author Bangkok Thailand 18th June 2016 9:13am #UserID: 11594 Posts: 370 View All Bangkok's Edible Fruit Trees |
| About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 21st June 2016 12:53pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Attention: Bangkok Surprised by your comment as I tried eating many giant Sapodillas from the markets in Vietnam and none of them tasted very good. The ones we can buy in the fruit shops here are smaller but are much nicer. I tried to order some other varieties of Sapodilla trees from Fitzroy Nursery (along with quite a few other fruit trees) recently but they never acknowledged my order. It's strange because they state on their website that they send plants all over Australia. So now the only option is to grow Sapodillas from seed. I planted some about 2 months ago but there is still no sign of germination. Can someone please tell me how long Sapodilla seeds take to sprout. Thanks. | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 26th June 2016 11:41am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 6th July 2016 12:32pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ish says... Hello Linton - absolutely, yes please! Thank-you for thinking of me. I am (relatively) patient ;) What is the best way to reach you to tee up details? Can't offer much in return currently (other than boring cash of course). I have a couple of fresh carambola seeds (apparently not true to type but maybe for rootstock?) and (currently on the tree) black sapote seeds (same deal). I do have a bunch of different fig cuttings currently rooting nicely...? And some nice cultivars of interesting fruit recently in the ground - will bear you in mind once they are up and running. Out of interest, anything in particular you are chasing...? | About the Author Ish ,4118,QLD 6th July 2016 2:58pm #UserID: 10566 Posts: 26 View All Ish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ish says... Hey Mike Tr - that is what I had read; that they are productive, virtually everbearing and not too gritty... Is why I have been chasing one for years. Linton has just been kind enough to provide me some seed (maybe Krasuey will have super babies too, eventually) but if by any chance you are keen / adept at grafting, I would love to procure one of this cv from you... :) | About the Author Ish ,4118,QLD 29th July 2016 1:33pm #UserID: 10566 Posts: 26 View All Ish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ish says... Well that is a little discouraging... Still, will press on hoping for a miracle with my seeds. Fortunately they are nice looking trees regardless. MikeTr - any chance you might be willing to use your grafting skills to create a Krasuey or two? Am willing to pay handsomely and am patient... | About the Author Ish ,4118,QLD 5th August 2016 9:48am #UserID: 10566 Posts: 26 View All Ish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ish says... Thanks Mike Tr... Which nursery do Peter / Trina belong to? So I can hound them ;) And that is a true shame about the SM. I had one of those but my 2yo clubbed it wth a rake 6 hrs after planting. I was devastated. Is hanging in there, with one sad little side branch but no progress. Depending on size, if yours is salvageable when you remove it, let me know? May be able to work something out to get it here :) | About the Author Ish ,4118,QLD 10th August 2016 4:50pm #UserID: 10566 Posts: 26 View All Ish's Edible Fruit Trees |
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