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John I. says... Hi Eddie, I took a picture of my lady finger bananas on the weekend. This is just over a month after the bananas first appeared (first hand appeared Dec 30). I'm beginning to think they may not ripen before the cold weather hits. If that happens they may have to sit on the plant over winter.
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Steven says... Hi John Those bananas look good! much better than the plant in your display picture :). is that the same plant? Do you have you plant protected at all, it looks like its out in the open. Ive got 3 cavendish banana plants that ive planted in a greenhouse after being outside in pots for about 3 years but ive always wondered how they go planted out in the ground in Melbourne. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 7th February 2011 12:49pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I. says... Hi Steven, My plants are all outside. The plant in my display picture was labeled a Dwarf Red Dacca (jury still out on whether or not it is a Red Dacca or dwarf Cavendish). The first winter I built a frame around it and covered it with some Frost cloth. As you can see in the picture it really did help much. The attached picture shows the same plant just after last Christmas. You can see the flower on the Lady Finger next to it that produced the bananas above.
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Jason says... And it's interesting to know for those that don't already that the last leaf is different to the others (wider and shorter) once you see that you can see the bulge in the stem of the flower stalk that follows it up. p.s John that's about the most healthy bunch of bananas I've seen from someone in Melbourne/ish | About the Author Jason Portland 7th February 2011 5:22pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Eddie says... Just thought il show mine 1st pic: Is my Super Dwarf Banana 2nd pic: Is my main Banana tree had to bend my leaves back cause i have bird netting on top for my other fruit trees. 3rd pic: Is the trunk of my main banana and the pup the main banana's trunk is the one on the left. 4th pic: Side on pic My banana trees are just over 2years old been looking after them well they both have suckers that are approx 1 year old the mother plants are both approx 1.5m in height (where the leaves emerge from) not sure if i let the suckers grow 2 early from the mother plant. My plants are dwarf cavendish for those who dont know
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Steven says... They are nice looking banana plants. Ive heard stories of someone growing banana trees successfully in doncaster but i was never able to verify it. Its good to know they can grow that well in Melbourne, maybe ill plant one out in the garden. Ill post some pictures of mine up when i get the chance. they dies back a bit during winter (probably mostly due to neglect) but they have shot back really well now and they look good. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 7th February 2011 10:57pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I. says... Thanks Jason, it's good to know I must be doing something right. Eddie, plants are looking good. But if they are only 1.5 meters (and assuming they are Cool Bananas brand) you may not get fruit until next summer. From what I've read hight is the best indicator of plant maturity and cool bananas web site indicates that the cavendish will grow up to 2.5 meters. | About the Author JohnI Melton 8th February 2011 1:42pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I planted almost every variety cool bananas sell apart from Goldfinger I think. Trust me there's a huuuuge difference in the "cool" in the cool banana's they sell. Some are not cold tolerant at all. Lots of people in Melbourne have had good success with Cavendish, those extra 3c in the city compared to me must make an enormous difference because they grow about nothing.. per year here. But in Melbourne they seem to be booming. Pretty much only the Ducasse's and Lady Finger grow decently from all the varieties I've tried. I actually planted a Dwarf Ducasse right beside my mums house on the north side for an experiment and it's growing much faster than any I've ever grown out in the paddock | About the Author Jason Portland 8th February 2011 8:28pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I. says... Eddie I was referring to cool bananas brand from Humphries nursery, which are sold through bunnings. You'd expect that they would use tissue culture and that all their dwarf cavendish would be identical. If you got yours somewhere else then they may grow to a different height (possibly smaller). | About the Author JohnI Melton 8th February 2011 10:20pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I have tried blue java but it's in a shaded spot (I wanted to see if a banana would grow there) and the result was it didn't grow :). It is still alive though so I could move it, which means it has survived winter as a very small tissue culture plant. I understand it's not a very good tasting banana so I wasn't too worried about what it did or where I planted it | About the Author Jason Portland 9th February 2011 12:24pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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ringelstrumpf says... Allison, if this is still an interest of you, then you cannot buy banana plants in QLD. You need a special permission which is easy to obtain and then you buy them at special nurseries. But there are thousands of bananas in Brisbane and it is easy to get a sucker somewhere. Just keep you eyes open, sometimes you find them at wastelands or even in parks and you take a sucker. | About the Author ringelstrumpf1 Blue Mountains 9th February 2011 6:44pm #UserID: 3535 Posts: 148 View All ringelstrumpf1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I. says... Hi ringlestrumpf, If you look at my post above from Feb 7 you will see a picture of my lady finger bananas. It took three years from planting to flowering. It can get to around -3c here in Melbourne during July and August. This burns the leaves but the stem is fine, and growth continues in spring. I haven't tried a plantain, and the bananas I do have are the first I have grown. | About the Author JohnI Melbourne 14th February 2011 4:11pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Banana's die all the way to the ground at minus 3, minus one takes out all the leaves. Luckily there's heaps of spots around Victoria near the coast that almost never see a temp under zero. Many many days right at zero :) but it doesn't often go under. The cool bananas they sell aren't more cold tolerant than any other banana, they just continue to grow during lower temps than some | About the Author Jason Portland 14th February 2011 10:03pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Eddie says... SUPER EXCITED went to check on my dwarf cavandish bananas and a picture tells a thousand words. Thx heaps for everyones input when i 1st started wealth of knowledge i have claimed. Is there anything i need to do now i know (John I) has helped me a fair bit but might follow what you have been doing when yours flowered. Cheers Eddie
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trikus says... not the sort of thing to transplant really .. unless all foliage removed and you are takibng a sucker off .. here it is reccomended that suckers only be planted in the 'dry' lead up to summer .. sep - nov ... beginners who try and plant suckers in the wet are nearly always disspointed with them rotting .. try chopping off all leaves and not watering until new growth starts ... you have probably rotted off all roots by watering to much. | About the Author Trikus battered Tully 25th February 2011 8:27am #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I've chopped up a clump, separated it all and got most of the parts to grow again, they don't look happy while they are growing more roots but I found so long as each piece has at least one root it'll go, even without roots if it's a nice sized chunk. Might be a different story up in the rainy mouldy tropics but it's pretty easy here. I'm often moving suckers around and they all grow after being droopy for a week or two. Even if the stems die back you usually/always get a new leaf come out eventually one day, even months later | About the Author Jason Portland 25th February 2011 3:51pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Eddie says... Hi John its the second summer and at the moment there is 5 hands and approx 18 bananas on each hand as per the pictures the first bananas that opened approx 10 days ago seem to be going a light green is this normal the ones i see are dark green the variety is a dwarf cavendish for people that dont know any help would be great. Thx Eddie
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John I. says... Eddie, not sure if the bananas turning light green is normal, but they still look healthy. Maybe its just the cold overcast weather we have been having? From what I have read the main thing to watch out for is not to over fertilise as it can burn the bananas. Great effort getting your bananas to fruit in its second summer. My lady finger fruited in its third summer, and my read dacca planted around the same time still hasn't produced a flower yet. Here's the latest picture of my Lady Finger. The bottom bananas are around 3.5 to 4 inches long.
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Eddie says... Just a question my bananas are doing well on the hand that is opening up at the moment you can see in the pictures that the fruit is very small if any just beginning to give just the little flowers does this mean its at the end of the fruiting cycle and if so how long should i leave the stork after the last bunch of bananas and do i just cut the main flower off and will it heal properly sorry about all the questions just want to do it properly. Cheers Eddie
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John I. says... Hi Eddie, when your sure it has finished producing fruit cut the bell off leaving about 20cm of stem. Best cut on a slight angle so any rain will just drip off. When you cut it will start dripping sap that will stain your cloths so be careful. The cut will start to heel after a couple days. If you want to trim the bottom hands just snap them off by hand. | About the Author JohnI Melbourne 12th March 2011 8:07pm #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lachlann says... I like to leave the bell on. It continues to flower, producing male flowers, which smell nice and feed the honey-eaters. I still get good fruit, though I suspect commercially somone must have found some advantage in cutting them off..... maybe like those poor sheep and bull's -----. | About the Author Lachlann Sth Coast NSW 12th March 2011 9:51pm #UserID: 873 Posts: 33 View All Lachlann's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lilli says... Just moved to a new property and found a banana tree with many bananas on it. Then I realised they were lady fingers. The fruit on one of the bunches looked quite large so my husband cut it down and we hang it in the shade although it gets plenty of light. Can anyone tell me if I've done the right thing in my pursuits of ripening the bananas? and if not....what should I do? | About the Author Lilli Beerwah Qld. 15th March 2011 11:54am #UserID: 5052 Posts: 2 View All Lilli's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... If you cut some fruit off the bunch and put them in a plastic bag with a ripe banana , this will speed up the ripening process .. ethylene gas given off the ripe fruit does this . It usually takes about 2-3 days . If the whole bunch ripens at once many fruits can get wasted , and hard to remove from bunch without breaking skin . Having the bunch hanging up makes it easy to 'de-hand' a very difficult process that calls for an extremely sharp knife . I usually use a good pair of sharp secateurs or a serrated knife . | About the Author Trikus battered Tully 17th March 2011 9:09am #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... Eddie , I always wait until a few cms of stem with no hands appear so as to get a hand hold on the bunch when removing . Have heard that the best bell for eating is on a Ducasse .. Luke Nguyen gave an interesting recipe . First time I saw it mentioned was in Charmain Solomon's Complete Asian cookbook in the Burmese section [ I think } | About the Author Trikus battered Tully 28th March 2011 9:09am #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... Many growers up here insist that bunches must be picked before they start ripening . Suppose for commercial growers you could not send ripe fruit to market . as it would be rotten before getting there . Some types will split if left to hang on for to long [ maybe to much rain also does this ] You will not regret picking a few fruits early . Think of it as practice , and spreading the crop out . Keep an eye on the bunch , you never know when a rouge flock of cockatoos may decide to attack it .. many other birds seem to be attracted as well . | About the Author Trikus battered Tully 1st April 2011 2:55pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... Brendan , its only ethylene gas afaik . And should not be to harmfull to humans ... ooops WRONG !! GOOGLE FOUND THIS . wiki clip ;; ethylene oxide itself is a very hazardous substance: at room temperature it is a flammable, carcinogenic, mutagenic, irritating, and anaesthetic gas with a misleadingly pleasant aroma. So no wonder they would not let you in ! Ripening fryuits give off small amounts of this gas , and out in the open it should not be harmfull .. its present in pbm thats parts per billion I think .. | About the Author Trikus battered Tully 2nd April 2011 12:39pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... I ws a bit surprised by the ethylene subject, so I did a bit of digging. Commercial ripening rooms use "catalytic generators", to make ethylene gas, from a liquid supply of ethanol. Typically, a gassing level of 500 ppm to 2,000 ppm is used, for 24 to 48 hours It's also a plant hormone. Ethylene is oxidized to produce ethylene oxide, a key raw material in the production of surfactants and detergents. Not the variant used in fruit ripening. There's many chemical variants of Ethylene Alkylation- which is part of the polystyrene making process Halogenation- which makes PVC plastics. There's a whole lot more, Major industrial reactions of ethylene include in order of scale: 1) polymerization, 2) oxidation, 3) halogenation and hydrohalogenation, 4) alkylation, 5) hydration, 6) oligomerization, and 7) hydroformylation | About the Author JohnMc1 2nd April 2011 3:49pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... WORST POSSIBLE TIME TO dig up suckers as not as much growth in colder weather . Best time [ DPI ] early spring before the wet . CAn be difficult to remove a stand/stool of bananas . D5 is great , or a tablespoon of kero into each eye after hacking of trunk . Just had a look at my patches . saw another 2 bunches coming . and small bunch of Bluggoe filling out nicely . Blue Java stand looking a bit sorry ,best looking is Ducasse towering over all other stands with a masive bunch over 6m up. .
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