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Nyrie DR starts with ... My Shahtoot Mulberry bought from Daleys about 5 years ago is loaded with fruit, as it was last year. However the fruit has never ripened as the stalks of the fruit whither and the fruit falls off long before it is ripe. I'd love to try this fruit, but so far have never been able to. The tree looks very healthy. The photo is of fallen fruit with the whithened stalks. Please can anyone help?
| About the Author NyrieDR Wollongong 10th October 2010 7:58pm #UserID: 4387 Posts: 2 View All NyrieDR's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... So they ALL fall off? 100's of premature fruit fall off my tree, I was just putting it down to natural attrition. I mean the tree produces far more fruit than it could possibly support, so as the fruit gets larger the tree jettisons what fruit it can't nourish. I still end up with far more fruit than we can handle, and I cut the tree back very severely late winter. Do you mulch it and did you give it a fruit/citrus/rose (potassium) based of fertilizer late winter? | About the Author JohnMc1 10th October 2010 9:25pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author NyrieDR Wollongong 11th October 2010 1:38pm #UserID: 4387 Posts: 2 View All NyrieDR's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Grubs1 Melbourne 13th October 2010 10:27pm #UserID: 4409 Posts: 7 View All Grubs1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jo says... I've had this same problem - every flower/immature fruit falling off! Last year I thought it might be some kind of pest, so this year I watched out for anything suspicious and even put a net over the tree. Same problem though, all the flowers/immature fruit fell off last week. I have been giving it water and fertilized at the beginning of spring... I too would be extremely grateful if someone could enlighten me about why this happens and how to avoid it! I have googled and googled to no avail... Thanks in advance! | About the Author Jo19 Perth 14th October 2010 3:59am #UserID: 4410 Posts: 5 View All Jo19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Splitmore says... I have the same issue too. I have 2 red and 2 white Shahtoot mulberrys side by side. the whites have practically retained all their fruit but the reds have both dropped all theirs. Could this possibly be a genetic fault with these plants?? I'm going to fertilise like mad next winter/ spring and see what happens | About the Author Splitmore Sydney 19th October 2010 7:58pm #UserID: 4435 Posts: 1 View All Splitmore's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... "Old fashioned" mulberries are like a weed and seem to thrive on neglect? I am not sure - but I live in a harsher climate than Perth and my black mulberry has not been fed nor watered since..? (can't remember in truth - maybe 6-8 months ago?) and bears fruit fine. How many neglected trees do you see hanging over fences, old dunny cart laneways etc in Perth (eg) that are loaded? Splitmore - it might be an interesting experiment for you to deprive 1 each of your red and whites and see what happens perhaps? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 19th October 2010 11:46pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Grubs1 Melbourne 8th November 2010 4:18pm #UserID: 4409 Posts: 7 View All Grubs1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 8th November 2010 6:57pm #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Town Farm says... I have a shahtoot which I put in last year. It has set a few fruit this year and I have had the opportunity to taste a couple. I envisioned it to be a longer than but fat like a regular mulberry but mine are longish and very skinny? They just don't plump out and juice up. I must admit I have been a bit disappointed in it to date. My dwarf black is amazingly prolific. I planted the Shahtoot with the thought that they would be fruiting at different times but to date I have been disappointed as I say. What I have tasted to date certainly haven't been fat and juicy and the centre stem is quite tough - quite ordinary actually. Anyone out there care to share their tasting comments? | About the Author Townfarm1 Mooloolaba 12th November 2010 2:58pm #UserID: 3226 Posts: 25 View All Townfarm1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Itdepends says... I've got the dwarf red shatoot- new in the ground this winter. I'd agree- you shouldn't plant one expecting a larger version of a black mulberry. They're sweeter and a distinctly different (sugary) taste. Not as juicy- but I wouldn't judge it a lost cuase yet- many trees I've grown have rather poor fruit the first couple of years (if they fruit at all). Daniel | About the Author 12th November 2010 10:25pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I had a dwarf black and red shahtoot next to each for 9 years and both fruited several times a year and neither were real dwarfs.The shahtoots trunk diameter got to about 30cm.I prefered the shahtoot fruit and although had a core were so much bigger and sweeter.Winged vertebrates took most fruit and both trees recently volunteered their spots in the yard for more glamorous tropicals. | About the Author Cairns 20th September 2011 7:02pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Beth says... I have just picked some of my supposedly red shahtoot mulberries from a 3 year old tree I I bought from the Diggers Club. I thought they would be red but when I tasted the fruit that were dropping off they were sweet and quite pleasant. However, it seems strange to have green mulberries, but it foold the birds. i am wondering if we all bought our Red Shahtoot trees from Diggers? | About the Author Beth3 Tasmania 21st November 2012 10:49am #UserID: 7445 Posts: 1 View All Beth3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author MNash1 21st November 2012 11:15am #UserID: 2892 Posts: 292 View All MNash1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 21st November 2012 2:31pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author snottiegobble South of Bunbury 25th November 2012 12:01am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Some specimens of many fruit types take until second or third crop to develop taste and sweetness. Some will never succeed in that site or maybe never at all anywhere. In NZ there are two strains of Rubus pentalobus on the market. One of them fruits freely while the other needs special pollenater. Perhaps there are several strains of the white shahtoot. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 25th November 2012 11:35am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 25th November 2012 12:31pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Town Farm says... Further to my post last year, our most recent crop from our Shatoot Mulberry has been great. Beautiful sweet berries which were wonderful to graze on each day. They are finished now but can't wait for next season's crop so it was worth the wait for the tree to come into its own. It is only two years old after all. I should not be so impatient! | About the Author Townfarm1 mooloolaba 28th November 2012 5:52pm #UserID: 3226 Posts: 25 View All Townfarm1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 28th November 2012 5:59pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Townfarm1 mooloolaba 18th December 2012 9:35pm #UserID: 3226 Posts: 25 View All Townfarm1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Db Brisbane 15th October 2013 9:45am #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Db Brisbane 16th October 2013 1:59pm #UserID: 6427 Posts: 470 View All Db's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Andrew c says... Mine are doing the same lots of green fruit but now slowly dropping off before ripening. I have my red shatoot in a pot. Got about 4 ripe fruit last year which tasted sweet! Second year this in the Melbourne climate. Windy as down here in Melbourne and I read somewhere they don't like widy conditions. | About the Author Andrew C 16th October 2013 9:49pm #UserID: 7273 Posts: 23 View All Andrew C's Edible Fruit Trees |
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M says... Hi all, I just want to set the record straight for people experienceing massive fruit drop just before ripening like I did. I found out that the tree needs to be well established before it would hold any fruit to full ripness. I planted my white shahtoot 3 yrs ago and had lots of fruit in the second year. But all dropped before ripening. Earlier this year, the same thing happened. Dropped many unriped fruit and I thought the same would happen like last year. However it did not. Many fruit remained on the tree until they are big, plump and juicy. The uglier the ripe fruit, the sweeter and more flavour. The flavour is like vanilla honey. Sweet like figs. No fibrouus core. Those happen with unripe fruit. The less ripe ones have more of a flavour reminiscent of nashi pears. Today is new year eve. Been harvesting almost daily since late Oct. Main harvest mid Nov and Dec. Still more to come. All good. Looking to get a red shahtoot next. So before anything else, please try to get your tree establish. Hope this helps. | About the Author M Altona Meadows, Vic 31st December 2013 11:52am #UserID: 7210 Posts: 4 View All M's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sternus1 says... I personally don't like the shatoots as they are so, so sweet-- but if that's your thing yeah, perfect. My dwarf black is only a meter tall and is covered in fruit right now, they are nearing ripeness so it will be interesting to see if they drop or not. They really like potash I've found, and the more water they get the more fruit there will be. | About the Author sternus1 Australia 31st December 2013 12:59pm #UserID: 8314 Posts: 1318 View All sternus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Townfarm1 says... I can confirm this. Mine took a couple of years to establish and now the fruit is holding and beautiful. We have had the main crop and now it is having a second flush. Can't wait. Unfortunately I am renovating and I have to relocate the tree so fingers cross it reestablishes without too much stress!! | About the Author Townfarm1 Mooloolaba 17th January 2014 9:51am #UserID: 3226 Posts: 25 View All Townfarm1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... My dwarf shatoot tried a late flowering after summer and fruit didn't ripen -now those ends of branches don't have any buds but look definitely alive - new fruiting buds are 3 to 4 nodes below the branch tips - question is will buds form eventually at branch ends - its so slow growing i dont want to prune back to active bud - this will be 3rd summer too. The photo should give you an idea whats happenning.
| About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 26th August 2015 5:29pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kevin Ho says... Have same problem with tree now 6 years old. No effect when reduced tree by 30% with heavy pruning except fruits are now much bigger 3grams rather than 1gram. Might try potash feed as last resort. Perhaps sandy soil in Perth, Western Australia not suitable resulting in overbearing and premature fruit drop!!!! | About the Author Kevin Ho Leeming WA 6th October 2015 1:11am #UserID: 12451 Posts: 1 View All Kevin Ho's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Pete7 says... Just to throw some more confusion into this topic.... I bought a red shahtoot at the start of this year, and like many others experienced, fruit started to grow over summer even though the tree was very small. After reading this thread a few months ago I'd been expecting all the fruit to drop off, but despite being the beginning of April I now have some fruit ripening. Go figure!!!
| About the Author Pete7 MORPHETT VALE,5162,SA 4th April 2016 12:22pm #UserID: 13156 Posts: 19 View All Pete7's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Pete7 - let me know if your fruit ripens and is Juicy?? My December fruits were a tad dry this year and those coming on late with second crop a dang nasty dry and i throw away -- any ideas out there what I can do to make juicy again? its not thru lack of water as I watered my large white shatoot as fruit were ripening and were ok Update on dead bit of post 2 up - I just trimmed back to a healthy bud and branch took off ok - Darn slow grower - I think my sapodilla is faster :( | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 4th April 2016 6:12pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Pete7 says... Markmelb I picked the two ripe fruit today. As I've never eaten any type of mulberry before today I have nothing to compare it to, but would definitely describe it as juicy. There even seemed to be juice oozing out of the fruit as both fruits were sticky on the outside. Not much flavour or sweetness though, which I presume may be due to the tree being young and not the right time of year. I can see the potential though! | About the Author Pete7 MORPHETT VALE,5162,SA 5th April 2016 11:00pm #UserID: 13156 Posts: 19 View All Pete7's Edible Fruit Trees |
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