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amanda starts with ... Does anyone have experience with these fruit? Mine are just not happy and I don't know why... they receive sub surface retic/recycled water and the usual organic matter (plus some gypsum and trace elements) but they have just never looked as good as when I first planted them... Is is too windy, dry, salty or cold for them here do u think? Do they look stunted? I have never seen another one growing - apart from my own and have nothing to compare it to. Would appreciate any help here.
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Diana says... Hi Amanda, Those don't look too bad considering that it's winter. I think wampees like humid subtropical conditions, being south-east Asian. They are also similar to citrus- they like a fair bit of nitrogen and iron, and tend to go yellowish in winter. They probably don't like dry, windy winter weather. Mine are shrubby and not very fast growing. I don't think yours are stunted. There are some well established and productive ones at Northey St city farm in Brisbane, they are also very shrubby but taller. Diana.
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Diana says... Thanks Amanda, yes it is. I just realized that there is a picture of a very healthy, full sized wampee at Northey St, with useful information in a Daleys newsletter too: www.daleysfruit.com.au/newsletter/sept2004.htm> They also say treat it like citrus. Diana. | About the Author Brisbane 26th July 2010 9:33pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey Diana - u wouldn't credit it - but here is the new growth on my Wampees - only about 3 weeks after I pulled them up!! little sods...I don't think many of my fruit trees like it here :( I just bagged them into 35L sacks with premium potting mix and I am giving them seasol - they under shade now....out of interest - they had a big fibrous ball of a root system - really interesting.
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Diana says... Hi Amanda, Those look great now. I hope you get some fruit too. Mine have started flowering for the first time during the last two weeks, they are two years old (actually almost everything is flowering- it's a very wet year here). Maybe the lower evaporation under shadecloth is helping yours too. Seasol seems like a good idea. Good luck with moving if you are still planning that. I have just been visiting Perth for two weeks- gorgeous. I loved Kings Park. all the best, Diana. | About the Author Diana Brisbane 4th October 2010 5:05pm #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Diana - let us know how yours go hey? there is very little info on them in the forum at present. Are the bees in to the flowers, ants etc? all that stuff would be really interesting/worthwhile to document here. Funny about the flowering - it's been ultra dry here - and I have had flowering madness!?? It was like snow on all my citrus. Just when I think I have put my finger on the answers I realise that nature is far from predictable. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 6th October 2010 2:12am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Too late Dan - it's been pruned! But - at the right time - pruning should be a good thing as it would then bush right out - with a lot more growing/fruiting tips? Mine were in desperate need of a good hacking - they were tall n lanky. They are probably a couple of years from fruiting yet...? (around 2yrs old now..) They do remind me of a curry leaf tree..maybe way back in the genetic tree somewhere lurks a common ancestor.. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 6th August 2011 12:37pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Nothing's more uplifting than seeing a fruit tree budding up the very first time, especially when you've loved it for three four or five years. Yes, I'm proud to announce that I have a seedling Wampee comming into full flower bud as well for the first time. Whether it stays in the ground or not hinges on the very first taste of the very first fruit I try. Apparently, most seedling wampees are not as nice as the two grafted varieties available in Aus.. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 29th September 2011 4:15pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Here's some advice for free, patience sits at the top of our learning curve. I might not be so drastic and cut the wampee tree down if the first fruit isn't up to expectations. At least I have a Guy Sam in bud at the same time to compare. The Yeem Pay is a bit slower, I think because it receives more shade than the others. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 30th September 2011 11:43am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Most of the ones fresh here are the same size as the canned ones or fresh ones you see in Thailand.Kohala,biew kiew and chompoo are good sized but biew kiew tastes a bit richer.Sometimes the supermarkets and even markets have smaller scabby ones but that is not usual. People don't tend to trumpet the virtues of wampees from the rooftops but they are alright.I reckon they are more worthwhile than brazil,barbodos and grumichama cherries or Panama berries. | About the Author Cairns 1st October 2011 10:44am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... I have a tale of two wampees going on at the moment. I have two of them, one guy sam and the other yeem pay. Both did quite well during this winter which was quite cold. However right now, the Guy sam is nice and green and spouting new ground, while the Yeem pay is yellowing, dropping leaves with 1 branch showing signs of cold damage yet it seems to be sprouting new growth as well. Both have received the same amount fertiliser and are in similar positions on the garden. Not sure why the yeem pay is having such a bad time right now. Wanna give it some epsom salts because of the yellow leaves but I'm paranoid I've over fertilised it. Don't know why because the Guy sam is doing great with the same amount of fertz. Anyone have any thoughts on this peculiar situation? | About the Author J Upwey, Melbourne 3rd October 2011 1:50pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Not in Sydney Amanda; mine is growing well except it has not yet flowered. The only thing I get on them are tiny spiders which I just take off with a stick. Some leave got burnt one day when we had a heat wave but since I moved it under the jacaranda it's been fine. BTW I am appreciating the jacaranda more and more; its shade is a good nursery . If only I have more space in the sun... | About the Author MaryT Sydney 1st December 2011 12:06pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Yes that's basically how I treat mine. Mulch I believe is up there together with well draining soil and a few complete potash based feeds a year, most importantly in Feb and August. My mulch is a mixture of sometimes clippings from the mower catcher, I have a hectare to mow, and I do it by hand, so there is plenty of that. If I see bales of spoilt lucerne hay going cheap I'll put that through my mulcher, comes out as a beautiful fine soft mulch almost ready to eat. Another mulch I use is well rotted chicken manure, I have a few cheap supplies close by. And of course sugar cane mulch, it's the most expensive for me so I don't use as much. There is worms galore. One more thing, in flowering terms, my seedling Wampee is a month ahead of the Yeem Pay and the Yeem Pay is a few weeks ahead of the Guy Sam. Did you find a good home for your Cherry tree Mary T? | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 3rd December 2011 7:51am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Thanks guys :) I've never grown fruit trees in pots b4 (sacks) I guess I am a bit nervous of burning them if they dry out at all....I'd better do some research perhaps. All the different types are really happy except the Wampees - but maybe they need a bit more feeding than the more sensitive sub tropicals (as they are citrus-like) I will try a little more B&B....(if I kill them - at least I can get more of them thru quarantine....so far! :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, Mid West WA 3rd December 2011 11:43am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... :D It was really good BJ! I can only compare to supermarket though. I could develop an addiction - there is something really more-ish about them... I am wondering if it's worth planting the seeds? It has only pollinated with itself...it surely can't end up too drastically different can it? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 23rd January 2012 4:21pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Just ate my mere crop of Wampee....and I want more!? :) I really enjoyed them. They do taste a little citrus like, refreshing and tangy - but in a nice way (to me) but mine may have been a little underripe? Hard to peel so I just popped out the flesh. The skin tastes bad. The texture soft and perhaps like a cross between lychee and a citrus. That black dot is an odd seed I think..it was the only one out of 8 fruits. Anyway - they are way, way better than my pitanga that's for sure! :D
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amanda says... They are Guy Sam. As it's the first crop ever - I wasn't expecting too much - and I suspect a few more days on the tree would have been even better (but I won't be here for 4 days and didn't trust the mice!) Grape like in texture - not in flavour (to me) more fragrant and citrus like. I could happily eat a big bag of them - the are quite moreish :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 10th February 2012 2:08pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter says... Amanda, I try to find out where I am standing with my wampee. If not to much trouble, could you get a ruler and measure how thick the trunk is on ground level? Since your sapodilla fruited as well, could you do the same? It might not be such a good indicator how ready a tree is to hold fruit, but interesting anyway. Looking at your first picture of the wampi tree from your first post has it gained more height? | About the Author Peter36 Perth 10th February 2012 4:11pm #UserID: 5034 Posts: 213 View All Peter36's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Peter, the trunks are 3cm thick. The Wampee are nearly 2m tall, the sapodilla only about 1.3m. Yes - the Wampee have doubled their size since I dug them up, tree bagged them and put them in the shadehouse (that was winter 2010. They flowered this last spring 2011) They were heavily pruned in winter 2011 also Hope this helps :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 13th February 2012 8:32pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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srt says... Wampee belongs to the Rutacae family as do citrus. I imagine some of the problems besetting citrus apply to Wampee. I give them plenty of fertiliser ,including dilute urine as a foliar spray (cover your ears Emily) and only problem so far was a loss of a plant through collar rot. Stink bugs also. | About the Author srt giraween 6th February 2015 11:52am #UserID: 10109 Posts: 83 View All srt's Edible Fruit Trees |
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salsify says... I have some quite decent fruit set this year and have found that a big increase in the watering and feeding has made the difference. My two Guy Sams have been dug up and relocated about three times now - and are finally settled. I will be interested to see how they improve over the next 2years. I had heaps of flowers this season, they lasted for ages and the bees worked them to death. I was a little disappointed at how many set fruit - I thought there would be more as everything was perfect. I am wondering if I should get another variety, like a Yeem Pay - to improve cross pollination... I am 150km south of Perth (warm temperate) and we get the occasional light dusting of frost. The plants have done better here than in their last home - 450km north of Perth (semi arid) (too dark for the fruit pic - but here's the flowering instead)
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