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Hi, i have curl grubs through my gardens and especially in my on ground compost. They are fat and white and im a bit worried about their effect on my plants. Could they live in some of the pots i have around.
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Jeff
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Brendan says...
Hi Jeff,
Yes they could. Try some Lawn Grub & Beetle Killer.
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BJ says...
I've had them infest a lots-a-lemons tree I had in a pot. Horrible things! (both the larvae and the lotsa lemon trees!) It knocked it around pretty bad, but recovered. I only keep the tree now as a food source for the Orchid Swallowtail Butterfly larvae - they seem to much prefer it to any others I have...

In gorund, I've had a few very small lilly pillys apparently attacked badly, but anything established or close to established seems fairly safe...
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adamus says...
They are harmless to plants. They live in the soil. They can affect root systems, but only in massive quantities. You can use Condeez Crystals, , about 1 teaspoon to the watering can, and just water where you want them not to be. It cooks them in the soil, and doesn't affect other grubs or beetles.
They're good food for magpies, and even sparrows, which keep the green grubs under control on veggies.
The grub killer will kill all grubs, which is a little counterproductive, because then you need anti fungal spray to keep the fungal stuff under control, and then you need a root spray to keep the roots clear of fungus, because the beetles that control it are dead.
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snottiegobble says...
These grubs are sometimes called cockchafers & they eat grass roots so when you see a big mob of ibises in a paddock after rain theyre eating grubs.
(farmers friends)
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adamus says...
I won't ask the obvious, but I'm dying to.
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John Mc says...
they also eat roots and leaves.
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Jeff says...
Thankyou everyone for your suggestions. This website seems to be a wealth of information. I shall try some of your suggestions. Adamus, where can i purchase condeez crystals? Thankyou, jeff.
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chris says...
Before you do, note that potassium permanganate (condy's crystals) are toxic to earthworms.
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adamus says...
It's only toxic at a high level, they usually survive more than the Curl grubs. You can usually buy it at a hardware store. I got mine from the Produce Store, but I live in a rural town. Sometimes it will kill the earthworms around where you put it, but they come back pretty quickly, and the curl grubs tend not to.
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Jeff says...
Any other suggestions then chris? Adamus, where you said it cooks them could this affect plants? I accept some worms may be injured in the process.
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chris says...
neem oil
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adamus says...
It just hurts the skin of the grubs, and kills them quite quickly. For them It's like being burnt to death, but I've never heard of plants being harmed. It seems to keep them away for about three years, but the earthworms are back quite quickly.
Never tried Neem Oil, but ti works for so many things, it wouldn't surprise me. Amazing stuff.
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Xiem says...
There is a biological nematode? control that gets in the gut of the grubs and kills them. Parks and gardens people use it but I don't know where one can buy it.
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adamus says...
I didn't know you could get it for underground grubs. The grub had to ingest the substance. Yates have a liquid version of it called "Success". There is also a powder version called DiPel. The liquid worked better for me, because it was easier to measure out the right dose. I use it on all stone fruit, tomatoes, even for coddling moth if you get the timing right. Works a treat for the dreaded white cabbage moth.
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Julie says...
So Success is the same as Dipel? Interesting, as I have the same problem with measuring.

BTW, who deleted my silly remark to John Mc (re 'eats roots and leaves')? It was pretty harmless!
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adamus says...
Yep. One is liquid, and one is powder.
BTW, it was pretty harmless. and funny.
I still haven't found out why they're called cockchafers. How do you irritate a Rooster.? Hmmmm?
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John Mc says...
Ow, I missed it Julie, you've gotta be on the ball around here.
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chris says...
No they are not the same. Read the labels properly and the MSDS.
Success uses the active ingredient Spinosad.
Dipel uses Bacillus thuringiensis or Bt for short.

Spinosad is highly toxic to bees. Bt is a much softer option. It's mode of action is specifically on the gut of caterpillars only. Doesn't work on anything else.
While Success is marketed as being derived from soil bacteria, the truth actually is that it's synthesized in a lab. It is NOT naturally occurring bar the disused rum distillery it was originally
found in.
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adamus says...
Yeah, sorry about that. They have Nature's Way, the same as DiPel. It's a powder also. Looks like I'll just have to approximate with the powder from now on.
Thanks Chris, another lesson in not trusting big companies.
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Funkyd says...
As Xiem says, nematodes are available and they are the best non-toxic control. They invade and kill the larvae in the soil which is what causes the most damage, and they break the life cycle. Also being biological they are harmless to other organisms such as worms etc.
They are available from www.ecogrow.com.au.
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Hate grubs says...
Hello, am new to this forum and would like to know how to get rid of curl grubs in a lawns. My laws have been pretty miserable because of these grubs, small patches and tiny wholes everywhere. I used "all in one and Yates curl grubb products " but have no success so far! Can someone advise how and what's the best product available to get rid of these while grubs as I believe this is the right time to use? Cheers
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Funkyd says...
The Yates product is more general and maybe not strong enough for the grubs you have especially if you are getting lawn damage this time of year. Beneficial nematodes are the best and safest option for controlling these grubs. If you can see the grubs near the surface now then you should be able to use them now. In Aust try Ecogrow
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I feel as if I have tried everything to rid my yard of grubs, but nothing seems to work.

I strongly prefer to use as few chemicals as possible from here https://stoppestinfo.com/358-how-to-get-rid-of-grubs.html, but I am willing to use almost anything at this point. The grubs have destroyed my yard. When I dig up the dead spots, I find no fewer than a dozen grubs per square foot.

I treated my yard with Grub-Ex for three years, but still had a massive grub problem. Last year, I put down milky spore (and did it EXACTLY as directed). I know it takes time to work, but my grub issue is worse than it has ever been. I don't want to mess up the milky spore by putting down more Grub-Ex, but I am desperate at this point. My yard is growing more and more brown spots by the day.

What do you suggest at this point?
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