Did organza bags work for you 100%? (forum)

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Hi,

I have a white peach tree that I must of put about 50 organza on - the problem was that I had found the dreaded fruit fly was still stinging the fruit if the bag was touching the fruit.

Is the experience of others that the bags must be puffed out so fruit fly can not touch the fruit?

I was hoping that the fruit fly was not able to sting through the bag.

If they can, the only solution is to get the big bags that encompasses the leaves as well - that will help expand the bag so the fruit does not touch the bag.



Time: 17th December 2012 8:46pm

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Julie says...
wazza, they stung my loquats through the bags too, and I used fair-sized bags. But loquat bunches are quite large.

Time: 17th December 2012 9:26pm

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John Mc says...
What size bags are you using wazzamcg?
I use the large 120cm bags which gives plenty of room around the fruit. FF strike through the organza here are rare, I get birds trying to hack through them though, but damage is limited to half dozen fruit or so per tree. I'm about to bag all my european grapes, the Muscadines come later.

Time: 17th December 2012 9:33pm

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wazzamcg says...
I have 2 types to choose from;

120mm x 100mm
230mm x 165mm

I used the smaller bag for the peach tree and the larger bags for my apple and mango trees.

Even though my bags are much larger than the apples on my trees, there are some where the bags flop over the fruit. This is the concerning part for me as the organza mesh touchs the skin of the fruit. I think this will make them vunerable to the FF ~ bl**dy things they are.



Time: 18th December 2012 7:12am

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MaryT says...
I've had 100% success until yesterday I noticed one of the figs had a few small holes in its bag and the fruit had one dent/hole in it. It's not ripe yet but I think that's fair warning. Last year I ate every fig and guava I had inside organza bags; not a blemish.

Time: 18th December 2012 7:53am

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MaryT says...
I received an order of organza bags from Blingin today. They were extremely poor in quality - loose stitching and smaller than advertised. I wrote to them with a complaint. Remains to be seen what they would do. Trouble is I have an explosion of figs and I need those bags NOW.

Time: 11th November 2013 1:00pm

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Anonymous says...
Going to post my handy dandy vestpocket guide to making bags which exclude flies possums and bats, using household crap Next week with pics and instructions. Have a good mango picking design too.

Time: 11th November 2013 1:58pm

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Chris says...
I found if fruit bats are a problem in your area the bags are not adequate to protect the fruit.


Time: 11th November 2013 5:56pm

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VF says...
The bags don't really work with Lorikeets either. I've lost peaches to them - they chew the fruit through the bag and sort of suck it out, and you're left with a small amount of fibrous pulp and the seed sitting nicely in the bag.

Time: 18th November 2013 12:50am

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MaryT says...
The bags won't stand up to animals or birds; only ff and even then if they were tight around the fruit they may still be stung. That's what I read from other members' post on the subject.

As to Blingin; I won't buy from them again as their answer to my complaints was: 1. they've sold hundreds or thousand and had 'little' complaints 2. the size is only approximate (I ordered 11x16 and they were 10x16) and 3. they don't know what I'm talking about.

The Blingin bags were badly made: loose stitiches, uneven sides, some with no ribbons, some ribbons were not tied at the end so when you pull them they come out altogether...



Time: 18th November 2013 7:13am

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BJ says...
The organza bags dont stop oriental fruit moth, which gets in at the drawstring end and pierces the fruit next to the stem. Their larvae tend to be individual or in pairs and rather large and stick to the area nearer the seed. They also wont stop fruit bats, who will suck the fruit through the bag, often leaving only a nicely cleaned seed. Possums, on the other hand, will just tear the bag to bits if they are hungry.I double bagged some fruit this year. I even bagged fruit inside fruit saver nets and didnt get 100% success. So, Im pulling out my stonefruit.

Time: 18th November 2013 12:52pm

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Mike Tr says...
They reduce the incidence of fruit moth attack from nearly all othreis moths,amblypeltas,helopeltas and fruit flies and reduce the flying fox and cockatoo casulaties at my place.

Time: 18th November 2013 1:51pm

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BJ says...
Yep, they work great against spotting bugs and sucking moths, and I've got a bunch on small persimmons now, but I'll have to double bag with a mesh bag once the fruits get to near ripeness or the bats will get every one of them.

Time: 18th November 2013 2:57pm

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Miranda says...
It didn't work for me on Hawaiian guava. all my hawaiian guavas were stung by fruitfly last year， but it did work fort Indian guava and others.


Time: 20th November 2013 8:45pm

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KitschWitch says...
I've only tried the calico bags on persimmon. Kept out FF, but not always the birds. Ravens would stick their beaks into the drawstring end and if there was any slack at all, they would manoeuvre until they could reach the fruit.

For stone fruit I tend to use the sleeves. I'm not sure what the fabric is--it looks like interfacing. Not woven. Has worked for FF so far.

Time: 24th November 2013 1:26am

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aus99a says...
So far, organza bags are working a treat on my tomatoes and have got them on my figs also.

Time: 24th November 2013 5:19pm

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The poster formerly known as... says...
Had to re stake my mex cream guava tonight as it just about fell over under the weight of the fruit in the tree and the sodden ground. A few guava fell off but every one was stung. Spent hours bagging the fruit at quarter size to no avail. I guess the next step is wild May and fipronil mix.

Time: 20th February 2015 10:40pm

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ivepeters says...
No problems with FF on mex & yellow guava but have had a caterpillar which pierces fruit and continues onto another.
Peaches and nectarines had them in a pergola (mesh one from bunnings $60)and then bagged the fruit,no losses.
Funny season my end.
Kumquats, chillies and capsicums normally attacked, haven't been touched while my cedar bay cherries and mangoes have been.
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Time: 21st February 2015 8:13am

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Slicko says...
I have been using the pest guard bags from Green Harvest for several years and have always found them to work well with fruit fly having used them on lemons, tomatoes and capsicum. Sometimes I find a bag has been penetrated by a caterpillar or some other insect chewing a small hole in it.

Unfortunately, they are no use at all against birds, fruit bats or possums and so I find it's easier and more efficient to net the whole tree. Until last season I was using mosquito nets, however, I have since bought lengths of knitted poly net from W A that I will use to cover the trees. I have used it successfully to cover a crop of broccoli ..no cabbage moth damage at all.

Time: 21st February 2015 4:03pm

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Julie says...
Slicko. A website address would be useful. I'm fed up with mulching, watering and fertilising, only to feed the birds and fruit fly.


Time: 23rd February 2015 9:53pm

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Waterfall says...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=green+harvest

Time: 24th February 2015 10:25am

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Julie says...
' I have since bought lengths of knitted poly net from W A '

Thanks, but Green Harvest are not in WA. So did you get the GH one, or another type from WA?

Time: 24th February 2015 11:55am

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Slicko says...
Sorry about that Julie. Try www.greenharvest.com.au . They are in the Sunshine Coast hinterland north of Brisbane.
I agree, it is disappointing to lose crops to aerial or ground based pests, but I think the extra effort to protect your hard work to produce the crop is worth it.

Time: 24th February 2015 10:07pm

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Slicko says...
The mozzie nets work well if the vegetation is not too high. My peach tree is now 2m tall and a double bed net from a cheap shop was adequate to last a season and protect the crop. It also gave me the opportunity to retrain the dog who has a liking for peaches, nectarine, tomatoes and apple cores and will self harvest at any opportunity.

Time: 24th February 2015 10:16pm

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ivepeters says...
How do you retrain relatives from self harvesting ? Netting doesn't ever help, just encourages.

Time: 24th February 2015 10:36pm

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Slicko says...
You are of course quite correct Ive. Sometimes too friends and neighbours can be a problem assuming your generosity is well known.

Time: 24th February 2015 10:54pm

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Miranda says...
I have been used organza bags with baking paper inside the bags for last two years on guava trees, works perfectly well.

Time: 26th February 2015 10:00pm

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