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Oca, NZ yams, Oka

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snottiegobble starts with ...
Anyone with oca tubers to sell towards end of May ( harvest time) please contact me.
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amanda says...
I am really interested in getting these yams too!! Are they even available in WA?
They are delicious - but I don't think our quarantine dept would let them in?
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John Mc says...
Nice pic of red Tamarillos there snottiegobble.
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amanda says...
Does anyone in WA (or even Aust) have these NZ yams at all?
I am dead keen to source them - as maybe snottiegobble is?
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snottiegobble says...
Thanks John Mc, yes unfortunately i left them behind ( along with my babacos) in Victoria. They are called Ruby Red tamarillos & a lot sweeter than the orange varieties. One third rubies, one third apples, & one third sugar make excellent jam.
So now Amanda & I are looking for Ocas, tamarillos, & babacos.
Tams will grow from cuttings as well as seeds, but the fruit are usually in winter. Babacos can only be propagated vegetively ( natural hybrid without any seeds)Ocas grown like spuds & harvested after frost kills the plant.
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Charles cant spell says...
I am trying to get some this year if I do I will let you know, but Amanda they cark it over 28oC so I will struggle let alone you. My plan is to get them going in Pemberton on my mums place.
Anyway they dont get harvested till June/July so I wont have them before that.
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snottiegobble says...
Hey Charles c s. I grew ocas in Victoria for years & as you know they have many days over 40 degrees.As long as you hill them up like spuds they survive. The downside is that frosts ( that we dont get here) finished them off before they were ready so we got a lot of small immature tubers as a result.
If you can get hold of GRASS ROOTS magazine No 117 page 55 you will see my article OCA FOR AUSSIES. as you will notice by the photo we had plenty of them! Boy, its a while ago because Sarah is 27, married & I am expecting my first grandchild in 2 weeks!
Each 10cm tuber (always eat the big ones) should produce up to 30 edible tubers as long as a man`s middle finger + a lot of smaller ones ideal for planting the following season.
I will be willing to swap for something else when the time comes.
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snottiegobble says...
Sorry I meant 2cm tuber ( not 10cm) for replanting! I am still a feet & inches man!!
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Charles cant spell says...
Snottiegobble, if you dont mind give me an email. charlesotway AT hotmail DOT com

Cheers.
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amanda says...
Hey - u are famous snottiegobble! :-))) Charles - where will u source them from? We are moving down Busselton way in the not to distant future - I may have better growing luck then (with everything - including tamarillos...)
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Charles cant spell says...
Wink Wink nudge nudge via post so no guarantees at all.
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snottiegobble says...
Hey Amanda
Whereabouts ? We are looking forward to meeting you & yours when you settle in.
We are actually in Capel, halfway between Bunno & Busso. Great little town, very sandy but good fishing 10mins away if youre not after trophies.
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amanda says...
Hey snottiegobble - not sure yet maybe 10-15 acres not too far out of town where it doesn't flood or is salty soil would be perfect! We have to get this 30 acres on the market first. It's got 180 degree ocean views 1km from ocean and 15kms north of Gero...fingers crossed someone will love it as much as we have!?
Capel is a good spot too..would love to catch up with another gardening addict!
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Brad says...
Ha! thats funny - I recall suggesting Capel to amanda last year here somewhere when she mentioned buying down that way :)
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snottiegobble says...
Yeah Brad its a great little town with friendly folk, gardening club, great nursery, country club with $12 dinners (2 course)Friday nights.
Amanda, would you like us to keep an eye out for you re.acreages?. The Professionals are our local realty.
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amanda says...
That's kind of u snottiegobble... we are going to take our time looking/waiting for the right land this time... and we want to be part of a community this time around also.
U must find the sandy soil a different ball game?
It's taken me ages to build up mine and understand it's idiosyncracies!
Do u have the limestone bedrock in Capel too?
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Jantina says...
Amanda and snottiegobble, I have a few ocas you could have to get you started.
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amanda says...
Jantina - that's great news! I think I have your email address somewhere - I will check it out over the weekend and get in touch hey?

I would be thrilled if we could get them going here..especially for my NZ-expat parents...

Snottie - what's your email? Mine sunley@wn.com.au

Jantina - Is there anything u are looking for? I have Grummichamas? not in fruit yet but will be this summer i reckon....they are really hardy..
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snottiegobble says...
Jantina, youre an angel!! They wont be ready to harvest though, will they?

I can offer you mini red capsicums, orange capsicums, & some heirloom tomatoes from Diggers. I also have tasty pointed strawberries with rose coloured flowers.
My email is magixan05@yahoo.com.au.
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snottiegobble says...
Amanda I will email you if there is anything really worth the trip down.
The soil varies a lot specially near the river, but where we are, under the sand is what they call "coffee rock" a very hard calciferous clay. The natural bushland in the area is regarded as "Kwongan" with very fine grey to yellow sand & the depth varies quite a lot. Grevilleas love it & the WA floral emblem Anigosanthus manglesii Kangaroo paw is delightful in the spring!
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amanda says...
Thanks snottiegobble. Your drainage must be ok if grevillias love it? They go nuts here too. Under our rather shallow topsoil is that bright yellow brickies sand - very deep - then limestone (the formation has a name but I can't remember) if u wet the yellow sand and dry in the sun it sets like concrete. But it re-wets and softens instantly.
I have found the best way to manage my soil is bulk organics in winter and liquid feeding in summer. We still haven't had any sign of our "first" rains yet... sigh...
Hopefully the yams will get thru quarantine....I am doubtful tho' - but worth a try :)
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snottiegobble says...
yeah that yellow sand is quite something because it has just enough clay in it to make it set. I discovered for myself that it is the same sand that sand sculptors use cause I had a heap delivered for the raised vegie garden base, sculptured a reasonable face in the heap that was left; & it remained for months!
As for the ocas/yams the risk is always there. I always made sure they were perfectly clean before sending them anywhere & never had any problems.
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Jantina says...
Hi Amanda and Snottiegobble, have emailed you both.
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Charles cant spell says...
I just had some mailed from Tas so hopefully one makes it past the nazi's.
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snottiegobble says...
Have replied Jantina, & good luck Charles. They must have a very short season in Tassie!
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Charles cant spell says...
Oka BOOTY !!!!
and other gardening picks.
That's grain amaranth heads, I only wanted a little grain for seed saving but I ended up with 10 foot trees in my garden bed. Ladybirds are busy attaching aphids etc in the seed heads.
A large caterpillar only 1 thankfully.
My sad sweet potato harvest, late in the ground early out as I want to make the bed into a wicking bed for winter crops.
Sun and smoke.
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snottiegobble says...
Wow, 10 ft amaranths, I see what you mean. That caterpillar is the size that the ocas should be if grown in idylic conditions. That is up to 30 of that size & a heap of what you have as well for replanting. Good thing about them is it doesnt make the tubers indigestable if exposed as they grow ( unlike spuds) in fact the really red ones sometimes grow in the foliage on top of the soil.
A couple of the little ones would be gratefully appreciated.
The smoke was really bad in Bunbury last week so no doubt we lost people with breathing problems yet the burnoffs are (for the publics safety).

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amanda says...
Hey Charles - great pics! Snottie - My expat parents say that the yams like the same growing conditions as sweet potatoe (or the Kumera) ie: pretty crap soil/clay. Whats the go with these guys?

We tried to grow them many years ago in Perth (sandy) but they died.
I wonder if they might need some protection from our fierce summer heat n sun?

I have already had my spud crop in for a month now - as i want to beat the summer heat this time (our winter rain very short) It's going well. Maybe the yams could be re-planted now too?

Freaky caterpillar - would love to see the moth!? and yes - u can tell the very day the fire ban is lifted can't u?? All the closet pyromaniacs must be happy! (Must admit - I like a bon-fire now n then - it's a primordial thing....?)
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snottiegobble says...
Hi Amanda, got your photos etc but haveing probs downloading them at the moment.Email us anytime at all. The soil I had in Vic. was volcanic, lots of scoria rocks & sometimes really big ones in the wrong places!! The soil was rich, very muddy in Winter,& like cement in summer with lots of cracks happening as it dried out. Secret was lots of mulch, compost etc. As my daughter lost the lot ( ocas) in Mandurah I think the same would have to apply as she has just sand. The tubers are supposed to grow better in sandy soil but of course there must be a limit. Ours were always hard to wash to get the clay soil out of their grooves so potting mix & compost mixed in with the sand or ocas grown in large pots may be the way to go. I am going to try both!

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snottiegobble says...
Yes they are even burning little mounds of leaves around here ( never heard of mulch obviously) I thought only Victorians did that. Apparently the smoke blew into Perth the other day & upset a lot of asthmatics & others with respiritory probs. The DFC or whatever apologised but said the burnoffs were called for. I cannot see how at this time of year when winter will bring a whole new flush of fuel next spring with the now added potash! CRAZY!!
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KAF says...
Hi Jantina....would also love to get some NZ yams....K :)
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Charles cant spell says...
KAF a few of us got some in this year all going according to plan we should have plenty to share around WA next winter if you can wait that long, otherwise we might have some spare once we see how well the 20 or so we have store over winter.

Cheers,
Charles Otway
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Charles cant spell says...
2 Oca's are shooting so far.
Lost 5-6 to rot as my hot house/aquarium was to moist, sent some to Snottie and a few small ones to Julie Firth in Gero.
Hopefully we all get some started and a decent crop to share round next winter.
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amanda says...
Wow! well done CSS - I had no idea they looked like that - almost like a clover? Great idea to send them on - good on you!
I look forward to hearing everyones progress.
Do you think they need some sharp sand in the mix maybe? (for drainage/aeration) Did you get any tips from Julie Firth at all?
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Julie says...
They look like clover because they are in the oxalis family. My 3/4 acre is overtaken with oxalis, so maybe oca would do well?
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Charles cant spell says...
No they dont need a sharp sand mix just dont leave them in the ground over winter. Put them somewhere dark and cool out of the draft so they dont shrivel to much.
As these tuber where so small I was worried they where shriveling to nothing, about a 1/3 did, so I wanted half of them in the ground in case.

Unfortunately my aquarium hot house was to effective at recycling moisture/humidity etc, which kept the cocopeat to moist (i.e frigging saturated) so yeah its not rocket science I was just stoopid :)

The issue is not getting them to germinate but getting them through 40oC summer and then setting tubers before they die off. I cant see it being an issue but who know what weather we might get at the end of summer if this weather is anything to go by.
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epiphany says...
Ooops...didn't see this thread until now. I gave away some NZ yam/oca just after i harvested it this year. But I've already replanted next year's crop. If anyone is looking for some next year, feel free to sing out around mid-winter or just before.

Mine did fine in our horrible 40+ summer this year. I grow mine in a big pot & I just moved them to somewhere where they got a bit of shelter from the sun/heat. The real problem was getting enough frost over winter to get them to set tubers.

As an aside, you can eat the leaves as well. They're really nice in salads...taste sort of lemony & zingy.
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Mistyhills says...
Would love to get some yams off you next year if you have some to spare. My favourite food growing up in NZ and I have regular cravings for them!
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amanda says...
hello Jantina! The Yam u so kindly sent me is hanging in there. I planted it in a 25L tree sack with cactus potting mix and have kept it lightly moist ever since.

As it has not sprouted yet - I decided to have a look at it...it's as fresh looking as the day I planted it! I was really surprised.

But no buds/shoots etc? Do u think I should move the bag into the sun maybe? I would be devastated if it died after u having parted with it! :(
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Grahame Dobson says...
Can anyone supply me with some NZ Yams to grow please , I eat some on my holiday to NZ a few months ago and thought about getting some to grow, I live in Augusta were anything will grow , we grow Paw Paw Mango and Lychee down here.
Regards Grahame
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kiwi gardener says...
I am also looking for some NZ yams to plant, have not had them for over 30 years since before I moved from NZ. If anyone can help it will be appreciated
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epiphany says...
I normally have a few spare at harvest (expat Kiwi myself, so they're a must for our household...lol). If you remember during winter, let me know & I'll save some for you (its the wrong time of year at the moment as they're in the ground growing right now).
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amanda says...
Hey epiphany - do you have any expert growing tips? I have finally got one and it's just sprouting now. I am really excited but it's been 40ºC last 2 days (I have it in the shade).

What do you feed yours? Thanks!
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snottiegobble says...
Graham, mine are going really but its the first time i have tried them in WA
If they survive the hot WA summer I should have some early winter for you. I used to sell them in Victoria. ( read my article, GrassRoots Mag. No 117, page 55) All you ever need to know.(well in Victoria that is) its a whole new ballgame here!!
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amanda says...
Hey snottiegobble - are you feeding yours anything as yet? I'd be happy to share mine too when they are ready, I am just a bit worried about the summer also snottie.

How much did you sell them for - out of interest? I was thinking they would be a great "gourmet" crop (in WA) at present - with so few around?
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epiphany says...
I don't feed mine anything special - they get worm tea a couple of times during the growing season but that's about it. They need to be mounded a bit like potatoes - I grow mine in large pots (less yield but stops it taking over the garden) & they only ever seem to set tubers in the layers where I've hilled them up. They also need to be watered regularly - it seems to help them cope with the stinking hot summers we have. I kept mine in partial shade last year in an effort to help with the heat...they got the morning sun. They still closed their leaves during the heat of the day but otherwise seemed to like it there (I then moved it out to a more exposed area in autumn). I also discovered the chooks *really* like them so don't have them accessible to any poultry or you won't have any leaves left...lol.
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snottiegobble says...
You are right epiphany, they need to be earthed up round the sides as they grow & maybe leaving a hollow round the stems so the watering can be absorbed without running away down the sides.
I grew them in volcanic soil in Vic. which is so different to WA sand. The ocas will be much easier to clean here but do need added nutrients & organic matter mixed into their medium . Chook manure pellets, sheep manure,compost, blood & bone etc. & the weekly feed of seasol & seasol powerfeed. I have one lot in the ground & the other in my above ground vegie patch which has a yellow sand base topped with potting mix.
Amanda I only sold the smaller ocas for people to replant in the spring & kept the large for the table. By small I mean about 1 inch long. I think I fitted around 12 into a small AP padded bag & sold for $20 inc. postage & instructions, cooking recipes etc. That was about 15 years ago though!!
Under perfect conditions each plant should provide up to 30 'planters'
5 'eaters' as long as a man`s middle finger & maybe 15 other 'eaters' about a man`s thumb size. If there is an early frost (which kills all foliage) there will be a lot more immature small ocas & less edibles. Bonuses in a good year are redder tubers hanging off the stems at ground level. Unlike spuds these can be eaten sooner then the sub-surface ones due to their oxalic acid content already being depleted by exposure.
Poultry do show a liking for the small tubers, but they are like 'chocolate' to ducks!!
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amanda says...
Great info snottiegobble and epiphany - thank you :)

I didn't know that about the exposure thing?
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snottiegobble says...
Amanda, exposure to the sun for about a fortnight after harvest is important. Being a type of oxalis, ocas contain quite a lot of oxalic acid & it is unwise to eat them until the sun has done its work!
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epiphany says...
They're way sweeter if you let them cure in the sun after harvest. You can also eat the leaves (while they're growing of course - they die down in winter if you have a frost)...they're quite tangy & nice in a salad. But I would imagine it'd be unwise to eat too many all the time because of the oxalic acid content.
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Grahame Dobson says...
Snottiegobble,
I would be interested in buying some from you to grow in AUGUSTA , as I said we can grow anything down here , as we do not have frost and temp. between 25c in summer down to only 13c in winter and our soil is Karri loam , not sand.

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Charles cant spell says...
I was trying to drop some off to someone else in Augusta last time I was down south, Marlene Wescombe dont suppose you know her Grahame. Both Snottie and I should have some available, you will just need to remind us then. :)
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Grahame Dobson says...
Thanks Charles, that would be great, my email is g.dobson10@bigpond.com
no , do not know Marlene ,
I am looking forward to growing them.

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snottiegobble says...
Yes Grahame, please give us a reminder nearer the time.
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N says...
hi snottiegobble i live close and have been searching for years for yams - could you spare some seed and advice on growing
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Hi N , Charles cant spell & Jantina. Up to now in spite of the heat my ocas are doing really well. The second photo shows a row that are conpletely hilled up with added potting mix on each side leaving a slight trough down the middle to collect irrigation & organic fertilisers. There is also a healthy french sorrel in the background with seed heads. They are all shaded from the sun during the hottest part of the day as are all my vegies.
If all goes well, by the end of May I will have some tubers available for planting so N. please give me a hoy then.
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Jantina says...
You must be a good gardener snottie, they look great!
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krazykangaroo says...
I wish I had hilled mine. With the unseasonal rain here mine mostly rotted so I have had to start again with cuttings.
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snottiegobble says...
Thanks Jantina, but its easier to be a good gardener when youre retired as I am.
K K . Amazingly after years of oca growing in Vic. I never tried cuttings. Do they really take off?
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krazykangaroo says...
Cuttings grow so well that you only have to look at them and they grow roots. Just put them in some potting mix and they will root within a week or so.
Alternatively, throw some damp potting mix on them and after a couple of weeks scrape it off and you will have rooted layers to plant out.
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Charles cant spell says...
Awesome pics and advise, love this forum. I might make some cuttings and put them in a shadier location. Thanks for the ideas.
Makes sense that they strike easily snottie given how they form tubers readily in the clumped up soil as they grow.
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Charles cant spell says...
Also if anyone gets any seed, I know its very rare, I would be very interested in try to germinate it. Genetic diversity in the old root crops is shocking and availability from Andes etc is not possible (legal) so growing from seed would be a huge step forward in getting some new breeds in Aus.
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krazykangaroo says...
I would also be interested in seed if anyone can get a hold of it from other colours than common purple.
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snottiegobble says...
Strange but I dont remember my ocas ever flowering, but like all oxalis I suppose they do. Maybe only in the Andes under perfect conditions?
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krazykangaroo says...
Mine have flowered but they have never produced fruit/seed
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Grahame Dobson says...
Snottiegobble , don't forget me down in Augusta , I would be happy to try cuttings.
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amanda says...
Great work snottiegobble! I am going to try planting mine out when it's cooler? (530pm and it's still 40ºC - gee this weather stinks also...)
Do you think that would be the way to go for my climate?

also - my stems (from Jantina's bulb) are reddish/purple?
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Charles cant spell says...
I recon you will struggle amanda, will need full shade and a cool shelterd area, and plenty of moisture and food. Mine is struggling as it does not grow easily here and I am a harsh gardener :) not much love for my plants. I call it the neglect test.
They are growing well in Pemby and as long as you plant it in a frost free area I think I will leave this species for my mum to propagate and distribute from stock from her.
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amanda says...
Really CCS? poop. It's doing fine so far - but it's in the shade cloth-enclosed veg garden (in a big tree sack) so maybe I should keep it in there..?
If I had more than one tuber I could experiment - our winters are really lovely for growing veggies (if short)? Our growing season slightly skewed here.
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Charles cant spell says...
Keep mounding up the runners as Snottie suggests that way when you get 2-3 runners, you can cut one once its rooted to make a second plant. Hopefully, but yeah it keep it undercover, even 2 hours of full 8-10 morning sun in Pemberton was wilting them.
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amanda says...
Thanks CCS :) Will give it my best try! Can't wait to serve up a bowl of these for my well deserving Mum!
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snottiegobble says...
Enjoy your Bali trip Amanda? Now even my ocas under shade are beginning to show stress by flopping over with some of the older leaves going pale & falling off. The next stage will be stems narrowing at ground level going brown & then dying off. ( past experience) Fingers crossed, please!
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amanda says...
Hi snottie - can u save some of your tubers for an autumn planting? It would be an interesting experiment - and easier to protect them from frost than heat maybe?
I will send u an email soon re: amish paste seeds n Bali :)
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snottiegobble says...
Luckily the one I got from Jantina is still very small due to it not sprouting for ages so it might be a blessing in disguise. Just want enough tubers from this lot to experiment with & send a few out. I might even try cuttings when it gets a bit cooler.
At this stage I dont know if oca plant growth & tuber forming is determined by daylight hours or temperature because I always lost the tops to frost in Vic which meant I had to dig them up usually end of May & there were always lots of small immature tubers ( around pea size)along with the big ones.
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Jantina says...
According to "Lost Crops of the Incas" ocas grow stems during long daylight hours and "as days shorten, the stolons swell into rhizomic tubers"
It also says " Temperatures above about 28c cause the plant to wilt and it's leaves to die; resprouting can occur, but tuber production is consequentially delayed". So hang in there guys. Amanda you might be on to something with your winter planting idea.
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amanda says...
Great info Jantina - I did some more research too and one site said the tubers form at around 4 months and peak production is at around 6 months...the growing season very long by all accounts?
If the 4-6 month thing coincided with the "shortest days" (in a given area) then that might be the magic formula perhaps?
For my area, for example, the wettest month is August (which makes it the "darkest" month also).....

So working back - I was thinking that the end of Feb/early March would be great for my area perhaps (happens to be when I plant my spuds too!)

I would plant my melons and pumpkins, as an example, 2 months b4 snottie.

Seems pendantic I know - but I have a feeling these yams are a bit outside their comfort zone here (maybe even for snottie in Capel) but I am hopeful that if we can keep them going that their offspring may be better adapted in the future..??

An interesting tip from the Potatoe Marketing Board was to store spuds with whole apples to retard sprouting. I tried this with my recent spud crop and although it didn't prevent it - it did seem to delay it and the sprouts are only small at 5 months and still counting! (and I do not have any "cool" area to store them unless my pantry is airconditioned 24/7)
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Grahame Dobson says...
Hi Guy's,
I can't wait to try growing Oca's , seeing what you guy's are going through, it will be interesting to see how they grow down here in our climate in Augusta.Let me know when I can get some from you Snottie , And I can arrange a meet.
Grahame.
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snottiegobble says...
Give me a reminder around May please, Grahame. I am praying that I will have some tubers to pass on! You will be able to grow them down there, no worries!
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N says...
Hi all thanks snottie i will keep in touch - the oca or yams my father grew in NZ had orange flowers
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Kiwi Gardener says...
I got hold of and planted some oca, NZ yams in early December. They are going well in the warm damp weather we are having in Melbourne. A NZ Maori friend told me to plant them high in the mounds or they easily become water logged and rot. But no flowers yet to know what colour they are.
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snottiegobble says...
I an sorry to say that even under shadecloth & very careful looking after, I am left with one small plant (from a tuber that Jantina sent) that sprouted very late ( TG). Planting late seems to be the only answer here because our hot summers are far too long for ocas!
Maybe keep tubers in a cooler to stop sprouting & not plant out till maybe Dec/Jan & under shade of course!
Again a plant from the Equatorian Andes temperate areas so we are probably asking too much from the oca in SW WA!
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Charles cant spell says...
Yeah I lost mine to Snottie, not surprisingly, however my mums are still going ok in Pemby. Hopefully can get some breeding stock and grow them down there in a sheltered micro climate. Pretty sure I wont bother trying in Perth again unless as you say its possible to grow them in Winter, my Macca suffered the same fate, and I have read that it grows much better in winter in Aus.
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snottiegobble says...
Well Charles, what I just read about peruvian maca I think you might even have trouble trying to grow it on Mt Kosiosko!. Where did you source the roots from?
Only hope would probably be in winter with strong cold artificial lighting!
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Jason says...
I've grown Maca before and still have a few tubers of Oca coming up each year and I've never looked after that so it seems pretty right for my climate. Maca wasn't so easy to grow and reallly slow (I grew from seed, I think it's the only way?). Ulluco was the best grower until the slugs killed them :S, pity because it's the premium Peruvian tuber
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Charles cant spell says...
Yeam Macca was from seed, very viable seed, it all germinated and grew fine in spring, then it couldnt take the heat and stopped growing and started wilting even in the shade.
I am confident we can get it going downsouth if not here, but I said that about Oca :)

If anyone knows of an Aussie source for Ulloco I am keen to get some into WA.

I know of a source for Mausha but none for Ulloco.
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snottiegobble says...
Charles, mausha doesnt show on google, (just a mountain in Tanzania!) Are you sure you spelled it ok or just living up to your name? :)
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Charles cant spell says...
My speiling isd impecable ...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashua
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snottiegobble says...
It all looked very promising until I read 'ANAPHRADISIAC' Then again some blokes love to 'forget their wives'! :)
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Snottiegobble says...
Hi , Snottiegobble , you asked me to remind you in May about runners for Oca's , can you still supply me with them. Please advise , my email is g.dobson10@bigpond.com

Regards Grahame , Augusta
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crow55531 says...
Snottiegobble, as a freind of Graham's I to would love to get some of them thar occa/nz yams to plant, please contact me and I'll be happy to part with some dough to get em.

Thanks 55531crow
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snottiegobble says...
The plant is still doing OK & has some ariel tubers forming & I suspect there may be sub-surface ones as well. I presume Yoongarilup is near Augusta so will let Graham know once the plant is dug up!
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amanda says...
Bugger it SG! Mine one, provided by a lovely forum member, died in our summer - and I am really gutted about it :-( I reckon plating it on the south side of the house may have been the best spot, now. Always cool n shady.
Grr!? This plant has so much potential.
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snottiegobble says...
Amanda say "pretty please"! & I`ll send you a couple,( hopefully) then again dont need to cause youre making tracks soon, or are you?
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amanda says...
Hey S.G - lovely offer but I have to say no... boo hoo! It's just too warm here for them I think...? I don't want to waste perfectly good tubers. Everybody - get them out there and growing b4 some smarty pants tries to put them under a patent or such - please!
Still trying to get there SG ;-)
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Charles cant spell says...
Yeah Amanda I think its an uphill battle, Julie Firth had hers growing buetifully in a green house and then along can hot summer and they instantly died. I lost mine in perth, like the macca they just cant take the heat, maybe if we do some clever selective breeding we might get a winter crop, give no frosts. I am trying this with my remaining macca seeds now.

I thought you lost yours SG, good to hear you've kept them alive. My mums get about 1 hour of sun a day in summer/autumn, 9-10am then full shade all day else they wilt and look sick. How much shade etc are you giving yours.
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amanda says...
Sorry to butt in SG. CCS - the tubers become available for growing at the worst time, for me anyway...? I need to have them in the ground as soon as the season breaks in April/May - but then they are day-length dependent aren't they?
I am sure that with time and some careful selection - we could eventually come up with a strain that can cope.
Mine was in a shade house like Julies also - the 40oC days still killed it too.. :-( I'd probably plant them on the south side of our house now...
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Grahame says...
Well Guys' I hope I have better luck down here in Augusta when I get mine , so far I am having very good luck with tropical fruit down here my Babarco and black sapote are loaded with fruit this year and my Mango did very well this year , the star fruit are doing well also , so hopefully I will get the Oka's going as well.
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John says...
Hi Jason, Oca's are something that we really miss since leaving NZ. If you still have a tuber or two that I could beg or buy it would be really great.
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Nick says...
Hey everyone, I dont know if this helps, but on Gardening Australia last night, Tino mentioned that he grows NZ yams in Tassie. Heres the link: http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s3244344.htm.
Hope this helps
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amanda says...
Thanks Nick! I just missed the story but saw his yams at the end - they looked great too.
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snottiegobble says...
Well, I finally dug my solitary oca plant up to great disappointment. None of the tubers reached edible size & many were very scarred due to splitting. I have no idea why & can only put it down to the large kale (I was using for shade) drawing too many nutrients because I found many of its roots in the bed that would have been under the oca plant.
Next season I will try again in total shade of the house as Amanda suggested.
Graham there are still a couple for you & I will email you.
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amanda says...
Bummer SG! I was just googling the day length sensitivity issues - apparently they don't form tubers until the day length is 12hrs and then need 2-3 months frost free to ripen?
I get confused with the ref's becuase many are American and I am guessing they must plant in spring do u think? But for us - the summer would be too hot then?
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snottiegobble says...
Amanda, in Vic.I had many rows of them & sometimes missed a few tubers at harvest time ( they only need to be tiny). The following spring they would show themselves & continue growing if I left them. Dont get me wrong, there are 40 degree days there too, but not the continued heat we had last summer & as it was volcanic soil they needed very little organic fertilising. No matter when i planted them (or they just appeared) they always started developing tubers from April onwards never before.
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amanda says...
Ah SG - so when did u plant and then harvest them in Vic?
April would be right for the day length too wouldn't it? Followed by a long frost free Autumn?
Supposedly NZ has a day-neutral variety - I wonder if they are available in Aust...

Well SG - if you can't grow them there, with your experience - then there may not be much hope for the rest of us in WA :-(
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snottiegobble says...
Amanda, I planted out usually as soon as there was no chance of frost, October usually, & harvested end of May often due to frost destroying the tops. Although there were always up to thirty edible tubers ( man`s thumb to middle finger size) from each plant, immature tubers prevailed, thats pinky white ones up to a small marble in Diam. so I thought WA milder winters would allow these to get to a reasonable size by being in the ground longer!
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amanda says...
Hmn - are you going to leave some in as an experiment maybe? if u could protect them from frost - it would be interesting to see? or are the days too short for tuber growth now?
yea - I would have thought our autumn would be perfect too SG. Although we didn't really get much of an autumn this year I thought..? :(
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snottiegobble says...
I may actually replant some of the scarred ocas ( nothing to lose) & see what happens. I know I wont see any tops till spring. Even tho frost is very unlikely, if we got some it would be a shame cause I would have to dig NEW potatoes & any sweet potatoes there are. Today is the first that feels like a s.w Vic. winter with 16 degrees & as they have had it like this for over a month we have a lot more hope with semi tropicals dont we?
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amanda says...
SG - I still don't understand...is it a 12hr day length and decreasing from then on - or increasing?

If they need a long frost free autumn - it makes me think that it is a decreasing day length?
How long is their planting to harvest time do u reckon?
I will have to do some more research :(
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epiphany says...
I'm about to harvest my oca soon, so if anyone wants some, I can probably spare a tuber or two. I changed the way I planted them this year & from rummaging round the other day, I'd say I have a good crop.

This year I planted them in the bottom of a large pot (largest plastic pot I could find in Bunnings)...first in around 15-20cm of soil, then continued to hill up as they grew. I think I ended up hilling them up about 4 or 5 times until the pot was completely full. Last year, I tried to keep them sheltered from the sun over summer but this year I didn't bother. I had them out in the open...no shade...& they loved it, despite the hotter temps over summer. I even got flowers. I think the main difference (besides the additional hilling) was I gave it way more water this year than I did last year. Having said all that, they didn't really take off until late summer (although they'd had 2 hillings by then). Not sure if that's a temp-related thing or a daylength-related thing?

It seems to have been cold enough for it to die back over winter now (didn't last year)...so in another couple of weeks, I will be harvesting (you need to leave them for a few weeks after die back for the tubers to increase in size). If you'd like a tuber (you can increase your plant numbers by breaking off a few runners & replanting during summer), you can contact me via http://myfolia.com/gardener/epiphany (might need to sign in to access the mail option?).
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snottiegobble says...
Amanda, I think they respond more to declining soil temperatures more than daylight hours. Peru & Bolivia have a lot less daylight than us & the Andes would provide many shadows as well.
Epiphany that sounds like a good idea & it would allow me to drag the pots into the shade during the hot summers that we have here. I did try ocas in pots back in Vic. but they never produced as well as in the open ground. Here I dont think I have that choice!
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Mike says...
Peru and Bolivia don't get much seasonal chnage in light length, intensity or temperatures at any altitude being so close to the equator.Plants from there are often quite sensitive to minor changes in several parameters within soil moisture being included.Maybe the cold and temp. cues are overwhelming.
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Jason says...
But most plants are fairly variable within the species. Avocados being classic. Within one species you can grow them well the full length of Australia from Hobart to Darwin
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snottiegobble says...
Jason,over time I dont think the oca has been of much interest re. breeding out traits etc except maybe in NZ, whereas now there are named varieties of Avocados to suit just about everywhere. 30 years ago it was very unusual to find a fruiting tree in sth Victoria so is this because of breeding or sourcing fruit from different parts of Sth America?
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epiphany says...
Green Harvest had an interesting little note on their oca page that for those in tropical/sub tropical locations, who want to try oca, it might be worth reversing the growing seasons & growing over winter (rather than summer) after being in the fridge for a few weeks (the tubers, not you...lol). Might be worth trying for those who can't get them to grow over summer?

I harvested mine today...a week earlier than I was intending as I needed the pot they were growing in. We had a really good harvest & I'm really pleased with the results. Hilling up is definitely the key to success.

As an aside...does anyone know if you can get other varieties of oca in Australia? We have dark red-pink ones with self eyes (same as we used to get in NZ, so I'm presuming they're a NZ commercial variety). But check out this pic: http://www.peaceseeds.cn/5-types-od-Oca-over-Mashua.jpg I love those white/purple ones! I wonder if the taste is different depending on colour?
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epiphany says...
Ok...scrap my last comment re: other colours. The AQIS database says Oxalis tuberosa is ok to bring into the country without a permit. So I'm going to look at getting some other colours from overseas. Yum!
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snottiegobble says...
epiphany, what a great selection in the photo, & it proves how big oca tubers can be under the right conditions. I also have only grown the one variety so please let us know how you go importing the others.
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epiphany says...
Charlescan'tspell (if you're still reading this)...you mentioned you knew an Aussie source for mashua? I'd love to have a go at them (if it will grow in a non-daylight-neutral location). Could I get you to contact me? I'm at http://myfolia.com/gardener/epiphany (might need to sign in to IM me...not sure?).

N: we got yellow flowers on ours this year. Didn't seem to produce seed, though - sounds like it's difficult to get them to set seed even if they do flower.

snottiegobble: apparently the US have several different named varieties/colours...so hopefully I can persuade someone to send them here. This site: http://www.amjbot.org/content/96/10/1839/F2.expansion.html & this site: http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2008/05/oxalis_tuberosa.php Show just how diverse the colours really are. I especially like the white with purple stripes variety (have no idea what it's called though).
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anne40blue says...
I've just returned from NZ and had a feast of yams with some friends. Delicious! I would like to buy or grow some but have been unable to locate. Can you help?
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John says...
Hi anne40blue, I managed to get some from Myrtle Beech Nursery, 122 Jeffries Road, Paradise, Tas 7306. Found them on ebay.
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crow55531 says...
planted occa on the 1st in rich soil abetted with a bag of barnyard manure, the soil is about 2 feet deep and I'm keeping it moist, will give sit rep when the little blighters show their heads !
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jules says...
I (embarrassingly) almost leaped for joy today when browsing at Northey Street City Farm in Brisbane I discovered pots of NZ Yams. Seemingly I'm supposed to refrigerate them until the heat of summer is over. Oh - I did want to watch them growing!I was so excited but of course now I'm browsing the net checking do's and don'ts for this area. Snottiegobble - how close were your Tamarillo's. I purchased two orange and want to do the right thing.
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Diana says...
Hi Jules,

I have grown these in Brisbane before, and have some in now (in a shady, moist spot).
I got them from Green Harvest. They have advice on growing oca in Brisbane / south east Queensland on their website (see http://greenharvest.com.au/Plants/SpringFoodPlants.html and scroll down to
'FAQ: I Iive in Brisbane and really love oca, will it grow for me?'
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Grahame says...
Hi Snottiegobble, all of my Oca are up and looking very healthy , they are growing at a great pace , as we have had great spring weather down here.
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snottiegobble says...
Great news Grahame!! You reminded me about mine stored in sand in the hall cupboard & hell they are all sprouting so I have to plant them out pronto! Looks like I may be buying some back from you! :( Jules, not sure what you mean, but my tamas are all Ruby Reds grown from shop fruit seed. The orange & orange striped cuttings didnt make it in the heat!
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Paul says...
Hi Grahame / Snottiegobble,

I have been trying to get some Oca here in WA for quite some time with out success. Used to grow them years ago in Tasmania. I would love to buy a few off one of you to plant if you had any spare. If you do have any spare my email address is berocca@gmail.com

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snottiegobble says...
Hi Paul, I have about 20 ocas all sprouted. The ones least sprouted I put in the crisper, & the rest hurriedly planted in shade. Some are definately too close to each so I can spare you a 2 or 3. I am in Capel.
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Paul says...
Hi Snottiegobble,

I would be very appreciative of a couple of Oca's! My email address is above if you would be so kind to let me know how is best for you to collect them from you. I'm in Bunbury, neear the forum.

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snottiegobble says...
Email on its way John!
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Grahame says...
Hi Paul,
I do not have any spare this season as I only just put in my first crop , but at harvest I may have some , will keep you in mind.

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Hey there people :) i'm wondering if anyone can point me in the general direction to get some yams for planting? I've done some reading and they say here in qld we should reverse the growing season so would love to have some ready to go. I'm lucky enough to get to go home once a year where I eat yams for breakfast lunch and dinner lol but hubby hasn't been home in over 4 years so he's hanging out for them! My email is jennandrob@hotmail.com if anyone can give me some direction. Thanks enjoy your yams :)
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amanda says...
Hey Perthites! The Cottesloe BoatShed Markets have Yams for sale! Was there yesterday and got these ones in pic ($30/kilo - but at least they have sprouts - from Tassie)
They only had one smallish box on display.

(they also had loquats @$30/kilo...ouch!!?)
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snottiegobble says...
Good Luck with those ocas Amanda! You will need to grow them in the shade once the really hot weather starts , & even then( where you are) I cant guarantee a crop! I have kept a few in the crisper & they are still sprouting a little! I wont plant them out till January to be safe!
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amanda says...
Yea SG...I am not sure where I can put them here. The fact they come from Tassie tells me that I may not have a snowflakes chance!? I am just being stubborn methinks :D
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Brad says...
thanks for that amanda, I know someone in Perth desperate for these. don't suppose you got a phone number of the place?
and yes I think you'll struggle up there. SG might manage
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15th November 2011 11:31am
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Jimmy says...
These are freely available any day of the week at the canning vale markets.

try the market floor itself there are a number of asian specialists.
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amanda says...
Really Jimmy? Maybe I should just eat this lot then! lol. Brad - no but the BoatShed markets are pretty well known - they are just off Stirling Hwy (west side) opposite the Liquorland store on the left (can't remember the street name) in the Cottesloe shopping precinct.

Eileen Bond was even shopping at the Deli counter right next to me.. ;-) A foodie paradise - but ultra expensive.
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Jimmy says...
They are NT grown mostly or FNQ.
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Brad says...
nah jimmy. you must be talking about something else. these are cold climate tubers.
http://www.greenharvest.com.au/Plants/oca_info.html
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Grahame says...
Hi Guys , my Oca's are powering along , they are loving it down here in Augusta (Gods Country), they are standing over a foot tall and very bushy, it looks like I will get a big crop.
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amanda says...
Nice one Grahame! Hey SG - I was thinking of that tip using frozen bottles of water for worm farms in summer - for our yams! lol...
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yes/ diggers.com.au should help you.
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kiwisinaussie says...
Hey all, anyone know where we can buy yams in brissie, not to grow but just to purchase from markets etc. cheers
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jules says...
I bought yams from Northey Street Farm in Fortitude Valley - cheap as. If you haven't been there its definitely worth a trip to the nursery for all sorts of stuff e.g. arrowroot.
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jacob says...
Hi everyone,

We supply three colours of oca tubers Australia wide with the exception of WA. Customers have the option of purchasing through our website (just google Yelwek Farm)

or through our eBay Australia listing(just search oca on eBay)

Oca is available from the end of May until sold out. We have all three colours of oca available right now, but they may not be for too long considering our sales volume - we currently supply one of Australia's largest mail-order seed companies.

Regards,

Jacob
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jenny says...
Does any one supply three colours of oca tubers in Perth?
I'm looking for olluco and sour soup plants as well as any South America fruit tree
let me know please
la_coronelasa@hotmail.com
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amanda says...
Cottesloe Boatshed Markets (Perth) has these yams in still/again...(at $30/kilo I am amazed there is no one growing them commercially down south..?!)

I am going to have one last bash at them (sucker that I am) but in the darkest coolest spot I find in the garden...

Jenny - I only know of one person who is managing to keep these alive in Perth as we head into summer - and she is a remarkable grower with loads of savvy....it remains to be seen if she can hang onto to them in Jan/Feb. If not then we me have to wait for day length neutral and tougher varieties to be bred (or leave it to the Southern folk to grow them...?! :)
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jennyv says...
Thanks for the info Amanda I'll try Cottesloe
All the best :)
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Jon M says...
So the heat is a real killer for them then in Perth?
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amanda says...
Sadly yes Jon M. I know of someone having more success in Pemberton tho..pretty chilly down there! :)
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Jon M says...
Your not going to give them another try Amanda now that your a little more south.
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amanda says...
One more try Jon M ;-) I have one spot that might be worth trying...it's growing laksa leaf really well - even in our heat..get's no direct sun and is protected, cool and moist...it's the best I can do without an outdoor aircon.. ;-)
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Shazr says...
Desperately Seeking N.Z.Yams (Oca) - can anyone help with some tubers or info on where to get some????
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amanda says...
Shazr...I have seen them for sale at the Cottesloe Boat Shed Markets - they come from Tasmania (the only state they can be imported into WA from..)
Some of the seed potatoe suppliers in Tassie also sell these...

Bad news is that it's too warm where you are :-(
I am having a go with them down here in Bunbury tho - I planted them in a totally shaded spot in the coolest area of my garden I could find (only a month ago after keeping them in the fridge since b4 xmas!)

They are growing ok - so far...
I know someone who is having better success with them down in Pemberton...which is pretty frosty in winter!
Good luck.
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snottiegobble says...
As a previous successful grower of ocas in Victoria, I find them frustratingly difficult in Bunbury climate so much so that unless you are absolutely determined to succeed at all costs, I would forget them! They obviously grow in the very temperate regions of the Andes & probably not far from the snow line!
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Grahame Augusta says...
I am growing them in Augusta with success, I have harvested my third crop now , we do not get frost down here bottom temp in winter of 10 deg average, Top temp in summer average 25 deg.seems a very good climate for everything including Mango , Paw Paw , Sapote , Babaco and Banana all doing very well and fruiting.

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snottiegobble says...
That is good to hear Grahame. Oca were as easy a hell to grow in Vic.where the frosts at the end of May ensured that you harvested the tubers before the burnt tops completely disappeared!
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Linton says...
I'm interested in planting some Ocas.

But first I need to know if they can survive through summer without any water. Thanks.
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amanda says...
If you keep them in the fridge over summer they can last that long Linton (in a paper bag) but definitely not in the ground.
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Linton says...
So it seems like they wouldn't make it in my water-repellent sandy soil. The only way I can keep them moist is to grow them in pots.

Has anyone ever grown Ocas (or potatoes) successfully in pots? What size pot would I need?
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Shazr says...
Linton, I have successfully grown potatoes in a stack of old car tyres and am determined to try Ocas the same way. There seems to be a lot of hysteria about the tyres leeching bad things into the soil, and thus the potatoes etc., so may line "the bed" out with black plastic (but then, couldn't the black plastic leech out????) decisions - decisions. General opinion seems to say that Ocas will not have a chance here in Perth, but I am well inland, and our night temps are regularly down in the low single numbers, so I will try. When's the best time to plant guys????
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snottiegobble says...
I have grown ocas in pots here in WA, but the harvest was poor with mainly small tubers suitable only for seed! In Springvale you should have no problems if you use a the largest tub you can find ( about $12 in Bussos & use good quality potting mix. Only fertilise with a little Dyn. Lifter, seasol & powerfeed. Really hot days 36---40 cover with some shadecloth.
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Linton says...
Thanks for the tips on growing Ocas as I don't know much about them.

When is the best time to plant - can I plant them now in a big pot and put them in the sun or shade?
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zincsulfate says...
got it.
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Shazr says...
I have just read through literally years of comments on the growing (or perhaps NOT growing in W.A.) yams here in Oz, but am having difficulty in putting it all together into some semblance of a growing plan! It seems to me that with these tubers coming from the Andes, if we want to grow them with any success here in Oz, we should be planting them at the first sign of winter with suitable frost protection. Has anyone actually tried this??
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MaryT says...
Shazr you may find this article from UQ interesting:

http://www.uq.edu.au/_School_Science_Lessons/YamProj.html
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Anonymous says...
Thanks so much for that info Mary - answers most of my questions. My tubers have arrived but I am still not too sure when to plant them - I'm thinking to go with planting them in stacked tyres in a semi-shady spot. Thanks again.
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starling says...
Came across these on ebay.

'bought 20 bucks delivered.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-Oca-New-Zealand-Yam-Oxalis-tuberosa-Roots-Seed-Potatoes-Gourmet-Delicious-/321181949451?pt=AU_Plants_Seeds_Bulbs&hash=item4ac7ef9e0b&_uhb=1
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