Questions about growing a mango tree (forum)

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Hi

I want to grow a mango tree and hopefully get some fruits in a few years.

Which is easier to grow R2E2 or Kensington?

Is it easy enough to grow from a seed from a store bought mango or should I buy a seedling or grafted?

Also I don't understand the difference between a seedling and grafted please explain it to me.

Do I need to buy insecticide to protect the mango tree?

I will be grateful for any help you can give me.

Time: 20th January 2013 1:51pm

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man go says...
It will most likley take many years to grow from a seed and even then wether fruit will grow is uncertain. you will do better if you buy a grafted plant (which is one tree that produces good fruit made to grow from the roots of one that has a good root system or is resistant to disease.) you could have your first good fruit in as little as 3 years. Try to avoid harmful pestisides and only use pest control products if the tree is being attacked by something.

Time: 20th January 2013 7:28pm

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BJ says...
Kensignton Pride grows true to type from seed and its fine to grow from store bought fruit. R2E2 will not grow true to type. A grafted plant will generally stay smaller and flower straight away and fruit earlier. the seedling will take at least 5 years to produce, but KP seedlings do so reliably. Seedlings grow into much larger trees.

Time: 20th January 2013 8:15pm

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mak says...
This page http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/mango.htm says R2E2 are polyembryonic and hence true to type.

The page says Kensington and R2E2 grafts aren't available to purchase yet.

Do you know any other website or shop in Sydney I can purchase grafts from?

Time: 21st January 2013 8:21am

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Jason says...
R2E2 IS polyembryonic. How do you think the Americans got it true to type :)

Time: 21st January 2013 8:41am

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lenn says...
Are you sure R2E2 is polyembryonic?

Time: 21st January 2013 9:14am

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VF says...
R2E2 can be both poly and mono according to http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/26_18927.htm so best stick to grafts.

Time: 21st January 2013 9:53am

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BJ says...
Sorry, it is polyembryonic, so will fruit fairly true to type from seed, but does give some wayward monoembryonic seedlings. Its not a very good mango though and only beats the junky old floridian mangoes like Kent and Keitt, so its not worth planting anyways. Have you tried bunnings for grafted plants. They will often have seedling and grafted KP. Other good fruit tree nurseries should stock better grafted varieites like NDM and Keow Savoy and a Sydney member might be able to point you in the direction of one.

Time: 21st January 2013 9:55am

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mak says...
Thank you for your replies.

I contacted my local Bunnings. They said they have Bowen but not Kensington and R2E2 though they can order them for me.

Can I attach the graft to any type of tree or I can only attach it to certain trees.

Time: 22nd January 2013 11:55am

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BJ says...
Mak, check out the video at the top of the link about grafting. http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/mango.htm
Buying a grafted tree will stop the tree from being too enormous and give earlier fruiting. You should buy a tree already grafted if you can.

Bowen or Bowen Special are alternate names for Kensington Pride.

Time: 22nd January 2013 12:09pm

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Brain says...
Bowen is synonymous with Kensington Pride, so technically they are one of the same. The one the are probably refering to is from Birdwood, which the label reads "Bowen", only thing is, I don't know if it's grafted or seedling grown - I think it's the latter - please double check.

Grafted means in simple terms, you get a variety you like (scion), and you implant them onto a rootstock, so in effect, you have a (single) plant that is consist of 2 parts from 2 plants. The pros is, you get fruit of a type you want and is generally quicker to fruit. (And if you want to go to the technical side, dieseas resistances and soil compatibility).

The choice should come down to - select a mango variety that you like to eat, then consider the size of the tree/growth habbits and then get a grafted one where possible, especially for those with less patience.

Daley has some grafted mangos you may also want to consider.

Time: 22nd January 2013 12:17pm

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mak says...
Thank you for your replies.

I'll grow Kensington Pride.

I already have an orange tree in my garden. Could I use it as the rootstock.

Time: 22nd January 2013 12:24pm

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lenn says...
Shouldn't be a problem but- you may get a mango-orange cross.

Time: 22nd January 2013 3:31pm

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BJ says...
You can only graft onto the same species or in certain cases a closely related species. So mangoes can only be grafted to mangoes or their close relatives like kasturi, kuini, binjay, lalijiwo, kajang etc. none of which are common here.

Time: 22nd January 2013 3:32pm

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Jason says...
BJ did you or anyone up north ever try mango on kaffir plum?. Always had me wondering...

Time: 22nd January 2013 3:56pm

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BJ says...
Jason - I havent, but I doubt it. I need to prune some mangoes soon and have a big wild plum around the corner, so might give it a shot. Odds of it taking are probably very slim, but the plum might work with hog plums just by looking at them?

Time: 22nd January 2013 4:49pm

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Jason says...
They do look similar. The thing is the kaffir grows like a champ down here. Pretty surprising. Its very frost sensitive but mine has grown into a big tree really quickly. Pity I only have one tree and its a male.

Time: 22nd January 2013 5:16pm

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mak says...
Hi

I bought a Kensington mango tree in a pot from Bunnings.

When I want to move it from the pot to the garden how deep should I dig the hole and how do I move it without damaging the roots?

If there are a few ants near the tree do I need to use any insecticide?

Time: 26th January 2013 11:51pm

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VF says...
Re hole, it depends on what kind of soil you're on. If it's clay, can loosen top of soil a bit and add gypsum and organic matter, but don't dig down, instead mound soil up or you may end up with a drowned tree. If very sandy, do a search on this forum - lots of WA gardners with good advice. If you're fortunate enough to have a good quality soil that's free draining, make a hole that's at least 2-3 times wider than pot. Can dig in some well composted animal manure or compost, but don't put fertiliser in as you may burn roots.

To remove tree from the pot, start by making sure soil in the pot is moist. Put pot/plant on its side and slightly tilted upside-down, and gently pull out - with the longer pots that mangoes are in, you may lose a little soil. Support the root ball with your hands and place in hole. Plant tree at the same level as it was in the pot.

I wouldn't worry about ants unless they harvest excessive scale insects.

Time: 31st January 2013 7:59am

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mak says...
Hi

Thanks for your help.

I moved the mango tree from the pot to the garden 1 day ago and so far it seems to be doing well.

Time: 2nd February 2013 12:16pm

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VF says...
Good luck!

Time: 2nd February 2013 12:46pm

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Michael D says...
Home grown mangoes are so delicious and it's worth the effort to grow one.Depending on the weather some years I get 2 mangoes but this year I had hundreds from my two trees. This was just picked yesterday to let it ripen indoors before the fruit fly / bats gets to it .Also picked a dragon fruit and some strawberry guava.
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Time: 25th February 2013 12:29pm

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MaryT says...
Hundreds of mangoes, Michael! Lucky you. Looks like a great harvest. I am particularly interested in the strawberry guava; I have a tree that's as yet to give me fruit. Sigh. At least I am eating yellow cherry guavas and figs. :)

Time: 25th February 2013 12:56pm

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Michael D says...
Yeah It's been a great year so far in 2013 for me. Hundreds of mangoes on two trees and very productive dragon fruits . Last year I only had 2 mangoes so the weather plays a very important factor. I was growing the yellow cherry guava and the fruits were larger than the red but it was too sweet for me so I sold it .

Time: 25th February 2013 10:47pm

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Michael D says...
Yeah It's been a great year so far in 2013 for me. Hundreds of mangoes on two trees and very productive dragon fruits . Last year I only had 2 mangoes so the weather plays a very important factor. I was growing the yellow cherry guava and the fruits were larger than the red but it was too sweet for me so I sold it .

Time: 25th February 2013 10:47pm

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Carl76 says...
What ever happened to those 3 new varieties the csiro had developed a couple if years ago ?

Time: 27th January 2016 9:05pm

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Brain says...
I believe the Pearl Mango is one of them and is available to purchase/eat. Not sure about the other 2.

Time: 28th January 2016 6:41pm

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ivepeters says...
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Believe Pearls have been around for 20ish years.
Csiro 's ones are NMBP 1243, 1201, 4069.

2 are Irwin x Kp & one is Van Dyke x Kp.

Time: 29th January 2016 3:27pm

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Brain says...
I stand corrected then. :)

I honestly did read pearl was a new release a few years ago and they were still waiting for the other 2. Oh well, i shall blame old age. Lol.

Time: 31st January 2016 11:59pm

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treeremovallansingmi says...
You know, growing mangoes can be really rewarding, but it does take some know-how. Between the R2E2 and Kensington varieties you mentioned, I'd recommend going with R2E2 if you're just starting out. It's a little more vigorous and should give you fruit a bit sooner. As for planting, skip trying to grow from that store-bought mango seed - you never know what you'll end up with. Instead, get yourself a grafted nursery tree or seedling from a reputable supplier. See, when it's grafted, that means they've attached a branch from a high-quality mango variety onto some hardy rootstock, so you're guaranteed to get the real deal. Seedlings are cool too, but they're basically grown from seeds, so the fruit might not be exactly what you want.

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