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Sapodilla??

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amanda starts with ...
Hi All, Is this a sapodilla do u think? when I bought it down in Perth it just said "sap" on the bag - now I realise that could mean other things?
I planted it in Aug 09 and it flowered a few months back - so it's quite precocious I thought (no fruit tho) it's quite whippy and tough (altho' got burnt in heatwave) Thanks!
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HappyEarth says...
Sure looks like one to me - it should exude white sap if you break off a leave.

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amanda says...
Yup it does have white sap HappyEarth - thank you!
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trikus says...
Sometimes they have a colourful new flush of foliage . I have another picture somewhere I just can't find now.
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amanda says...
Nice one trikus - do u get enuf' fruit from one plant? or do u need more?
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trikus says...
The one grafted tree at Mums in Childers was a problem as it fruited to much !! There are many different types so if you have the space whack a few more in . Even try a seedling . MAtes just brought in some seeds from very large fruits collected on a recent trip to Guatemala .
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amanda says...
Ta trikus - mine is a seedling. Finger x'd it's an ok one!
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Joe Fernandez says...
Amenda, good looking Nispero! Mine is a Hasya but it's only 4' - I won't see any fruit till next year.
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Joe Fernandez says...
Amenda, good looking Nispero! Mine is a Hasya but it's only 4' - I won't see any fruit till next year.

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denise1 says...
Coupla days ago I tasted the best sapodilla I have ever come across since at Tropical Fruit World in 1997. Sorry I didnt see the variety on the label as I woke up too soon.
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Markmelb says...
Finally worked it out Denise - you must have been dreaming? How are your plants getting thru your winter?
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trikuslaptop1 says...
Prize winning tray of sapodillas at Tully Show . Great season , my tree has a good crop for a young tree .
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denise1 says...
I have a sapodilla in a container outside about 70cms tall. I put a plastic hood over it for the winter, then a freak hot day burnt the tips through the plastic.I cut a hole so any hot air can escape and thence no further incidents. There is a NZ tree related to sapodilla and I will try grafting sapodilla onto it. It is called tawapou and grows on the coast. The small fruits taste similar to olives and a bit astringent so not worth dreaming about. I wonder if the aborigines have tropical fruit dreaming.
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ivepeters says...
Trikus
Do you know what variety the prize winner was ?
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trikuslaptop1 says...
possibly sawo manila , same as my tree .
Love the size of this one .. ponderosa I think , a real handfull .
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ivepeters says...
How does the ponderosa compare to your S.M ?
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MIke T1 says...
Ponderosa and brown sugar are not bad but too shy at producing and fell out if favour when tested here.Prolific is a fraction better but I chopped down my 10 tear old tree a couple of weeks ago as it didn't cut it with the other varieties.Just Krausey and Sawo manila are left and the Sawo is on borrowed time as 2 Krauseys have vastly more fruit and of higher quality.
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Peter91 says...
Has anyone ever had luck growing these in Adelaide South Australia? I keep hearing that sapodilla's are one of the hardier fruits of the subtropics, but i'd like some information from someone who actually grows them.

Would there be any sort of good chance?
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ivepeters says...
Thanks Mike.
My Sawo is fruiting for second year now, Krausey which I finally got a year later is fruiting for first time.
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Bangkok says...
I grow sapodilla "cambodia giant". I got one fruit with the tree and it was better then the common thai lamut. It was less sweet and no crystals of sugar.

Does anybody know the name of the cambodia giant sapodilla> It isn't superbig but same size as an orange.
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Marvellous Fruits NZ says...
Hey man, did you ever try grafting the NZ relative to the Sapodilla? If so, any success? I'm going to trial it myself.

Thanks!
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Markmelb says...
Amanda how has your Sapodilla gone since 2010? My Daleys BKD110 is still holding 3 fruit through winter
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denise1 says...
Hey Nick, There is a good chance they are compatible, but it can be hard finding wood that is of a healthy diameter. Perhaps an approach graft is the way to go.
You could also try black apple ( Pouteria australis )seedlings as rootstocks as they are more vigorous than tawapou ( Pouteria costata )
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Amanda says...
What is the NZ relative? Crikey - this is my old thread. I dug that Chiku up and dragged it down here, 7yrs ago. It's going great...sets crazy amounts of fruit. Shame the fruit fly love it as much as I do though.
Such tough plants.
People probably looked at my original pics here, and laughed. Little did they know how hard it was to grow anything at all in that location, though.

Down here and now: I have more than I can possibly bag against the dreaded fruit fly!

Careful what you wish for :)


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Marvellous Fruits NZ says...
Hey Denise,

Pouteria australis isn't on the NZ biosecurity index so it's not allowed into the country. Do you already have it here? If it was brought here already it could be used.

I have a growing Sapodilla and a source of budwood too, and I just bought three Pouteria costata plants as rootstock to trial. Will report on my findings. If you're in NZ and have Facebook I have started a page called "NZ Rare Fruit Growers" where you can find updates. Join up!

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denise1 says...
The NZ relative is Pouteria costata aka Planchonella costata. It grows in coastal areas usually quite close to the beach etc. It is quite rare because most coastal areas have been cleared. and restricted to mostly north of Auckland. The fruit are similar to a small black apple and also olives. The twigs are quite thin so hard to graft sapodilla onto them..
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Markmelb says...
Going well Amanda I didn't know they had fruit fly south of Perth? I would encase that Sapodilla in exclusion netting for sure, plus Chicu are wind tolerant of The Doctor, plus will grow slowly in almost any soils 🤔😊
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Marvellous Fruits NZ says...
Hey Denise

I have 3 tawapou seedlings now but am wondering how they are compatible as I just searched the scientific name of Sapodilla and it's "Manilkara zapota" but Tawapou is "Pouteria costata". Their genus is totally different? What do you make of that?

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denise1 says...
Being in a closely related genus doesnt automatically exclude it from being graft compatable. Also so many plants have been described back and forth and no less the sapotaceae plants. My graft trials of tawapou and sapodilla failed but they were very thin.
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