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Here is aroll call of the meanest and tasteless
Ceylon Hill gooseberry
Babaco , thornless Blackberry,Glengarry Apricot,Heritage raspberry

Time: 18th January 2012 12:12pm

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snottiegobble says...
How can you say babaco is tasteless ??
As with many others who have a sweet tooth it may not agree with your palate, but tasteless, certainly not!

Time: 18th January 2012 12:24pm

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Michael says...
I am with John regarding the babaco. I would also add to that list the pepino and tamarillo. It's just my own personal taste.

Time: 18th January 2012 12:35pm

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John Mc says...

Salty salad leaf.


Time: 18th January 2012 12:59pm

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amanda says...
Too easy! PITANGA! lol.

(although the plant I brought home from a fete, that also carried in that white 'italian snail' to my patch, was a big mistake too..)


Time: 18th January 2012 1:03pm

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Diana says...
Yep, edibles that I have grown but eventually turfed out thinking that the space could be better used for something tastier include pepino, naranjilla and ceylon spinach. I am still growing beach cherry although mine has little taste, as it is a pretty understorey shrub native to here.

I like my heritage raspberry, maybe I am lucky with the individual plant there. I like Atherton raspberries too.

Time: 18th January 2012 1:12pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Fortunately I tasted a Santol fruit before I purchased one.. it was so sour I couldn't finish it, and threw the rest out. Maybe there are better cultivars around.

Time: 18th January 2012 1:23pm

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snottiegobble says...
Shatoot mulberry, no fruit taste just sugar!

Time: 18th January 2012 2:05pm

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Danny says...
I would have to say pepino.

Time: 19th January 2012 6:51pm

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amanda says...
PS: Cedar Bay cherry, Capulin cherry (odd how they are all called "cherry" isn't it....?? must be a sales pitch.. ;)

Maybe my Kei apple too..tried one recently and it was sour - way, way beyond any human taste bud's capacity to cope with...?

Agree with Pepino...I think it's very overrated. Warrigal greens/climbing spinach. "Big Red" passionfruit. Emporer mandarin. Generic feijoa plants.




Time: 19th January 2012 7:06pm

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BJ says...
I've dug out my Heritage and Autumn Bliss Raspberries. They are fine, just not good. Also turfed 4 native raspberries and a very invasive asian prostrate raspberry. Not that they were really duds, I just have better things to go in and raspberries in pots need more input than they give output.

Also - I think i'm living in a parallel universe to Amanda! I love Native Spinach in cooked dishes (not slimy like the basela) just not fresh - too lemony (oxalic acid). And my Cedar Bay Cherry beats the pants off my other Eugenia - and I've got a fair few...

Time: 19th January 2012 7:12pm

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Mike says...
Hey BJ was Australia Post a bad investment with no arrival?

Time: 19th January 2012 7:24pm

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BJ says...
Hi Mike - email just sent. parcel arrived and am chuffed with all the goodies. I'll send the Garcinia up to you next week.

Time: 19th January 2012 7:34pm

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Mike says...
Good I'm glad your not disappointed and if you have any questions I'll answer them tomorrow.When it comes to disappointing fruit I have tasted sour plums,tasteless raspberries,granular sapodillas,vanilla garlic flavoured durians,astringest starfruit and jackfruit that come back to haunt you way too often.

Time: 19th January 2012 7:53pm

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amanda says...
I am dreading the day when 'they' start to "interfere" with mangoes and some other fruits - that have always been great up to now.
"Calypso" is nice enuf....but I still prefer a good Kensington.

Some breeding programmes have seen improvements - but others have totally trashed what the original fruit was meant to be.

Tomatoes, peaches, apricots, plums, nectarines, strawberries and apples are some examples I can think of straight up. I am guessing folk older than myself can think of plenty more...??

It's no accident that they are trying to breed the "fragance" back into Roses perhaps...? ;-)

I am seeing a genuine effort to put tasty tomatoes back on the shelf in the stupor-market though. But they are still pretty sub standard by any account.

Plums have been one of my biggest beefs lately...I haven't had a commercial one that has inspired me for quite a few years now.

I am really devastated at the poor quality of the peaches and nectarines this year? :(

(ps BJ - is your cedar bay better than your/a grumichama? That would knock me down with a feather! lol)

Time: 19th January 2012 8:30pm

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Mike says...
I have to admit good plums are just a memory and other stonefruit I have eaten in recent years has been pretty poor.A good yellow paw paw or punnet of strawberries from the shops is pretty rare.The breeding sacrificing taste for green picking,shelf live and hardness for transport is to blame I think but many fruits have improved.
With mangoes we are getting some of the good asian types that are at least as tasty as KP's.Calypso may be regression in taste because it is half american.Plantations of colourful haydens and similar second rate varieties. Generations of mango eaters that have never had a good one.

Time: 19th January 2012 9:01pm

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Jason says...
amanda, I actually had one of those zee sweet TM peaches this year and if you take into account that it was still crunchy, probably picked a month before hand while still green and flopped around in a truck and supermarket for week... Well I just imagined how good it would have been fresh on a tree and I imagined that it would have been AMAZING.

So in some cases they are improving the flavour of varieties, most of the commercial varieties selected in the 70s through 90s just to be tough for shipping though are rubbish

Time: 19th January 2012 9:57pm

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David says...
Hi everyone , i have 12 types of mango in my backyard by far the best tasting has to be Kwan,long elongated asian type ,full,of flavour and highly aromatic, quickly followed by Florigan, Glen Keitt, Valencia Pride.Thanks to a helpfull benefactor, who frequents these forums on a regular basis, i now have some more trees to add to the collection, and will report on there progress from time to time.

Time: 19th January 2012 10:03pm

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David says...
Thought id send in a positive, although i to have eaten some dreadfull pitangas

Time: 19th January 2012 10:05pm

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Jason says...
I'll tell you what is wrong with Calypso mango, now it maybe completely free of fibres when grown well.... But this also means the skin has no strength and it's almost impossible to peel, very very very annoying. I like to be able to bite a mango and pull the skin off, you are there forever with the Calypso. I guess you can eat the skin if you really wanted too but then you are ruining the flavour a bit

Time: 20th January 2012 2:43am

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Grant says...
Was this worrying you so much you couldn't sleep Jason? LOL
I want to try a good Papaya. The ones from the supermarket and the ones I've grown outside of the tropics taste like vomit. That's the red and yellow varieties.

Time: 20th January 2012 7:42am

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john says...
Little known is the fact that seed- grown peaches come almost true and fruit in 3 years. So do the Zee.

Time: 20th January 2012 7:43am

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chillilover says...
I agree with you Grant on the pawpaw. I want to taste juicy yellow pawpaw. Recently got one from the supermarket and it has bitter flesh. You can't even scoop and eat the inner.

David wow 12 types of mangoes. I would love to have so many different varieties. Currently i have KP and Bowen unless they are the different names for same plant.

Time: 20th January 2012 8:00am

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BJ says...
David, how big does the Kwan tree get?


Time: 20th January 2012 10:01am

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MaryT says...
258 g of Achacha yielded 175 g of shell and seeds @ $8/kg is about $1 for 40g (2 teaspoons) of fruit - very expensive!

Time: 20th January 2012 12:02pm

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Nick says...
Expensive but the little amount of fruit is worthwhile! Plus each fruit has one or two plump seeds, so plenty to plant! I also found a recipe for a cordial made out of the skins http://lifesafeast.com.au/blog/fruit-of-the-month-the-achacha/), it was a bit bitter but very refreshing (I added a mango to sweeten it a tad) :)

Time: 20th January 2012 2:22pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks for speaking up for the achacha Nick; it does taste nice but you only get a taste from each fruit. I looked at those recipes on your link and wonder how any one can get a 'slice' of achacha out of a fruit? Also unless I know they have not been sprayed I would not use the skin.

Time: 20th January 2012 2:48pm

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Justin says...
Babaco is great - not by itself (although it's nice chilled on a hot summer's day, provided it hasn't rained too much that year and diluted the flavour), but as a juice expander (makes apple juice etc go much further) and makes a nice sorbet.

Pepino is quite nice when it's ripe, and is good as a ground cover. But have to bag the fruit which is a pain.

Tamarillo I agree is not fantastic, though the occassional one is nice and you do find people who love it stewed and eaten with ice-cream.

But the "Fast Fruits" are never as good as the slow ones. But they do until those come online.


Time: 20th January 2012 3:05pm

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john says...
Use Tamarillo as a tomato substitute in cooking. works well.
As for Babaco it makes good chutney and preserves but then again so do old socks.

Time: 20th January 2012 5:07pm

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Mike says...
David I agree Kwan is an excellent mango and much like a big nam dok mai.Ok rung is another beauty with a similar taste and style and is held in even higher regard in SE Asia.It is funny that we slag off particular fruit and then find redeeming qualities or challenge the opinions expressed.Turpsy mangoes and paw paws and sour plums have always been my pet annoyances.

Time: 20th January 2012 7:42pm

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David says...
Just picked up a mammey sapote fruit today, listed at $6.99 kilo from Mango Mango in sunnybank. Good place to visit from time to time they do carry the odd exotic fruit. Will consume over the weekend then plant the seed. Does anyone know if they are resonable true to type or not. Dont matter makes a pretty tree

Time: 20th January 2012 8:42pm

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BJ says...
Not really true to type from seed. Seedlings grow into huge trees.

Time: 20th January 2012 8:51pm

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Mike says...
David yes I am led to believe they are true to type.There are good ones and bad ones and I got an absolute beauty from the market today with rich brick red flesh and a great flavour.It is in fact the best I have tried.It had 2 seeds was 700g.Some taste like sweet potato with a little sugar.

Time: 20th January 2012 8:55pm

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David says...
This fruit im sure comes from Tropical Fruit World near Murwillumbah, Nth NSW.

Time: 20th January 2012 8:58pm

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David says...
The biggest fruit there i weighted was 1.9kg like you mike i went for the 800g smaller fruit, little light on money today pity the big ones were beauties.

Time: 20th January 2012 9:00pm

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Mike says...
They were $2 each so I went for the biggest of the batch as they are a smaller type.Cut ones of the ones I thought looked poorer had paler flesh and bigger seeds.

Time: 20th January 2012 9:08pm

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Ellen says...
I've got to say, my worst investments are my dwarf nectarine and cherry rio de grande,,,,,so disappointed the slugs and the fruit flies always beat me to the nectarine, and there isn't much flavor to the produced fruits, bout the nectarine at Bunnings,,,,and the cherry rio de grande bought it from Daleys,,,2nd year of having it, it gave me fruits the 1st time. and it taste sweet, this year all of them taste so sour


Time: 21st January 2012 4:18am

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Nick says...
This is going to cause a bit of an uproar but I have to add strawberries to my list- I give them (I think I have about 22 plants) a good position and plenty of water and seasol but they flower profusely and only produce tiny (although tasty) fruit..

Time: 23rd January 2012 1:49pm

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brad says...
what variety of strawberries is that nick? i find worm castings the trick with my strawberries

Time: 23rd January 2012 1:55pm

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Nick says...
I bought about 6 at first: Tioga, Cambridge, Hokowase, Red Gauntlet, Lowanna and Nelly Kelly, then rooted heaps of runners and planted them elsewhere.

Time: 23rd January 2012 2:02pm

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brad says...
I'd like Cambridge to try. I have Hokowase and am very happy with it. if you don't already, dry worm castings and liquid feeds on your strawberries. good luck

Time: 23rd January 2012 5:57pm

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Nick says...
I'd love to send you a runner then brad, but all my strawberries are planted together and I can remember which ones which. Does cambridge have an defining features?

Time: 25th January 2012 12:58pm

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brad says...
WA quarantine wouldn't let you anyway I suspect. Thanks. Must remember to ask around locally.

Time: 25th January 2012 1:55pm

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grub says...
gidday brad quarantine wa will let you bring it in .it cost me $35 last time to bring plants into wa
you can also bring seeds in for free if there for personal use

Time: 25th January 2012 11:15pm

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