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Wazza McG starts with ...
I have put a list together based on the best tasting varieties I researched and are available in Australia. I'd like to know if you can recommend a dead set, drop dead killer tasting variety and prepared to share it. Thanks.

Bean Climbing Blue Lake, Giant of Stuttgart
Bean Dwarf Black Valentine
Broccoli Ramoso Calabrese
Capsicum Jimmy Nardello,
Carrot Scarlet Nantes
Celery Wild Celery, Gigante Dorato
Chilli Pepper Corno di Toro
Cucumber Mini-White
Leek Autumn Giant
Lettuce Perpetual, Oakleaf
Melon Planters Jumbo, Ananas, Zatta
Onion White Lisbon
Pea Climbing Sugar Snap Cascadia, Golden Podded
Pea Dwarf Dwarf Sugar Ann
Passionfruit Sweet Granadilla
Pumpkin Buttercup
Rockmelon Hollybrook Luscious
Squash Zucchetta tromba d'Albenga
Tomato Eva Purple Ball, Tomato Toe
Watermelon Moon & Stars,


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Brendan says...
Hi Wazza,
Tomatoes: Mortgage Lifter, Black Krim, Blue Ridge Mountain, ES-58.

Cherry tomato: Camp Joy

Watermelon: Warpaint/(Crimson Sweet)

Pumpkin: Butternut
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snottiegobble says...
Hi Wazza, Potatoes: Toolangi Delight, Kiffler.
Kale : Tuscan Black.
Turnip: Japanese mini X.
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gus says...
I would personally take moon and stars off that list. Takes like a plain old watermelon I reckon.
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amanda says...
It's hard though gus - as I really feel that the climate and soils make a huge difference to how even the same cultivar can taste....
eg: It is all but impossible to grow a poor tomatoe here...(except when there is too much rain...which is rare)

I grew moon n stars too - and didn't think it was that special either...but then my rockmelon and pumpkins were crap too...so maybe I just don't have the right soil, climate or something...? (or skills! lol)

For what it's worth - I have road tested heaps of tomatoes here - so far I keep coming back to Tommy Toe, Green zebra, Jaune Flamme and a hybrid cherry tom shaped like a love heart (can't remember the name)
But that's just for eating out of hand....I haven't found my perfect cooking tom yet...(soups yes - but not sauces - I need less juicy tom's for sauces)
Most will be personal preference - but as Tommy Toe is regularly mentioned - then it's obviously a good tom and proven performer in most climates/soils.

(Greenfeast for peas I reckon! yummm)
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gus says...
That is true Amanda, but I grew moon and stars in raised garden beds with pretty good soil. Last year was a really long warm summer, so I thought it was going to be perfect conditions for watermelon, but was dissappointed with them. I guess they tasted ok, but I just thought they were going to be really special.
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Rowan says...
If you want to grow watermelon you should get some Orangeglo seeds. You will never be happy with a supermarket watermelon again. In my opinion Orangeglo is the best tasting watermelon you will ever eat.

My whole paddock of melons was ruined last summer by the unseasonable wet weather here and the long range forecast says it will be a similar summer again this time - bugger.
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M Nash says...
Rowan, Orangeglo sounds interesting. Could you let me know where I could buy seeds?
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Wazza McG says...
I must admit - orangeglo does sound enticing - I'll sign up to buy seeds as well ;-)

I have no bragging rights about success with rockmelons either but I can advise that Buttercup (not butternut) pumkins are not only practical for the home gardener but they are also yummy. I'm seeing if I can legally get some of the famous Yubari King Melon seed and the
Densuke Watermelon seed from Japan.



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gus says...
Sold me on the orangeglo Rowan. Where do you get the seeds from?
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Rowan says...
Hi, Orangeglo can be bought from Baker Creek Heirlooms ( rareseeeds.com ). They are good with sending the seeds quickly and there are no worries with importing melon seeds.
With the unusually wet summer all my melons died and I didn't get any watermelons ripe so I don't have a lot of these seeds.
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haakon says...
Good thread, more favourites please
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gus says...
Thanks Rowan, thats a great site you sent me too. I will try some of those watermelons.
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M Nash says...
Yep, Thank you Rowan
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Wazza McG says...
Thanks Rowan - also bought these seeds as well ;-)

Sugar Ann Snap Pea
Orangeglo Watermelon
Petit Gris de Rennes Melon
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John Mc says...
You won't have any trouble importing watermelon seed, from NZ at least. I have just received a shipment from Kings Seeds, NZ. The envelope was opened by AQIS and a note was inserted to tell me the reason, and that nothing was removed. My ol man has been growing watermelons commercially all his life amongst other stuff and he swears by a new hybrid called Rapid Red. I've finally located them after a couple of years of searching. Can't wait to try them out, they're a very fast maturing full size melon.
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Mike says...
Melon seeds are are lottery with AQIS but probably better if mailed.It kinda reminded me of Sydney Airport AQIS grabbing pre-arranged,ICON bearing white and green fleshed rock melon seeds,red and orange fleshed honeydew melon seeds and assortment of watermelon seeds.They don't always play by their own rules and I had sampled dozens of melon varieties to find the best ones.If you bring them in on a flight,alert them on the day,have your paperwork,call Canberra Plant program and have the ICON and scientific names on clip bags. I think they are C7100 treatment which is easy to comply with.
Sorry for digressing,it is still a burr under the saddle for me.
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Rowan says...
Wazza, you had better hope customs don't open your package because legume seeds are not allowed in (other vegetable seeds not allowed to be imported are corn and tomatoes )Don't worry, you won't get into trouble, they will only take out the offending seeds and leave a note to tell you why.

I have been importing melon seeds from all over the world for years and never had a problem with customs even when they open the packets. The only trouble I have had is when the packages are not labeled correctly. Most seed companies label the seeds properly but you have to tell private growers with which you are swapping seeds the rules.
I grow around 50 varieties of melons when the season permits.
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gus says...
Anything else you recommened from Baker creek Rowan? While I am buying the orangeglo I may aswell try something else but can't decide what else to try from there.
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gus says...
Ended up buying a whole bunch of stuff,
thanks for the tip
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Rowan says...
You're welcome. Baker Creek are one of my favourite heirloom seed sellers.
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Ady says...
Amanda have you had the Amish past tomatoes for sauces, I grew them about 3 years ago and I'm only now on my last bottle yum. wishing I had not given so many away now
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Ady says...
Wassa you cant beat a jimmy nardello thrown on a griller I cant get enough of them
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gus says...
When you say sauce, do you have a recipe or are you just talking about bottled tomatoes? I have been planning on doing this one year but always end up buying tinned tomatoes and saving myself the hassle, but so many people do it that it must be better.
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amanda says...
Homemade tomatoe sauce made from great tasting tom's is suberb gus - I never have anything else and even take a bottle when we have fish n chips at the wharf :)
I grew mixed heirlooms last year and used them for sauce n soup. Fleshy ones are best for sauce - otherwise you risk over cooking the sauce in an effort to reduce/thicken it....trouble is I haven't found one with enuf oompa for my tastes...
(This year I had so many meyer lemons that I made a spicy lemon chutney - that was really good too..)

I am always on the look out for good recipes - fetes are great places to pick up the really old discarded books on preserves and bottling etc...

I have my tom sauce recipe that I would be happy to share - it took me 3 seasons to get it just how I like it :)
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gus says...
Would love to hear it Amanda. As you pull the tomatoes off the bush, can you just freeze them until you have enough to sauce up?
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Ady says...
Gus I did have a recipe for sauce but I seem to have lost it, I do have a sweet chill sauce recipe if you are interested. I also did bottled tomatoes & when I ran out of bottles I did 30lt in freezer bags which also had my excess capsicums & basil thrown in. 2 days of cooking that I'm still reaping the benefits of 3 years later. Well worth the effort
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Wazza McG says...
Amanda I drooled at the tomatoes at this site called "Cornue des Andes" from France but I don't think I can get it - looks great for sauces


http://www.kokopelli-seed-foundation.com/actu/new_news.cgi?id_news=29
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amanda says...
Yum Wazza McG! Yes u just freeze them gus (I do) here's my recipe - hope you like it :)

AMANDA’S TOMATO SAUCE

15kg tomatoes
2.7kg raw sugar
170grms cooking salt
1.5L cider vinegar
1 sachet (50gm) pickling spice
1 TBsp whole allspice
2TBsp celery seeds

Put spices into muslin bag/clean chux cloth and tie closed.
Put all ingredients into a large pot
Cook couple hours on low (just bubbling) heat, stirring occasionally
When tomatoes are well broken up, remove spice bag. Using a stick blender, blend mix well.
Pass through a large sieve and press juices out (one 500ml jug at a time) discard pulp.
Return to a low simmer to reduce to sauce consistency. Stir often to prevent sticking.
Bottle into clean, sterilised bottles while sauce and bottles still very warm.
Makes about 13 wine bottles (750mL)
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gus says...
Thanks very much amanda, sounds great. One surprise there is celery seeds. Is that a spice I haven't heard of or is it really just celery seeds?
I guess you just bottle them up like homemade beer?
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amanda says...
Yes - just celery seeds - they are a 'must' in the recipe and give it more character. You should be able to get them from a health food store, if not at the supermarket.

This recipe I adapted from my grandmothers, the Fog City Diner recipe and the Amish recipe - until I came up with a more balanced combination. Blending it with the stick blender makes it sooo much easier to push through the sieve (I ended up buying a commercial sieve as the cheap ones keep falling apart)

Yup - like homemade beer - I just bake the clean booze bottles in the oven for a few hours and wash the tops in hydrogen peroxide. The sauce keeps for ages - but I put it in the fridge once opened.

Don't be tempted to leave the seeds/spices out of the little bag like hubby did....ughh - disaster! :D
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Wazza McG says...
I got my seeds from Bakers Creek Heirloom seeds - all but one as predicted. Customs seized the sugar snap peas.

I got;
Orangeglo Watermelon
Petit Gris de Rennes Melon
and they threw in free seeds of
Charentais Melon

Thanks Rowan for advice.


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gus says...
That was quick Wazza,

Still waiting for mine, but they said it can take 45 days.
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M Nash says...
I, just today recieved my seeds from Bakers Creek,
Orangelo Watermelon and a free pack of Kolb's Gem Watermelon.
I was too scared to order anything else as I dont know what seeds can be imported from the states apart from watermelon.
Is there a ready reckoner out there ?
Customs did open mine so that is why, I suppose it took so long.
They do not hide the fact that there are seeds in the package and the seed packs are clearly labeled with genus name
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Violet_Cactus says...
There certainly is a ready reckoner out there, M Nash.
It's here -
http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_querycontent.asp
Just enter the botanical name of the plant in the top window (just the genus will do, eg. 'Citrullus'), choose the source country from the first drop-down menu, and choose a purpose such as 'nursery stock', propagation' or 'seeds for sowing' from the second drop-down menu.
This database is very useful if you want to bring in plant material from overseas.
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Rowan says...
Don't worry too much, you won't get into trouble - they will just take any offending packets out and leave an official sounding letter. You can import most vegetables except tomatoes, corn and legumes.

Check anything here if you are not sure: http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_querycontent.asp

Just put in the common or first botanical name and choose from the list that comes up.
For example if you put in cucumis (melons etc), then click 'cucumis spp. as listed' seeds for sowing, it will come up with a list of permitted species with the condition C7100 (one of the main conditions) which tells you that the seeds can be imported without a permit (as long as the normal labling conditions are met).
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Rowan says...
Great minds think alike, lol
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Mike says...
I just google 'aqis icon',put the name in and 'seeds for sowing'.C7100 is what you're looking for.You can print out the permitted seed list from the quarantine act and browse the lists if you know latin names.They will get through in the mail and labelled seeds will be permitted when carried through airports declared.That is with the exception of Sydney where you can often be inexpilicably denied.
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Nick says...
I wanted to buy some Melicoccus bijugatus and mangosteen seeds off ebay so I searched it and it seems like the species are permitted. Does this mean they will 100% certainly arrive without being taken?
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M Nash says...
Thank Violet, Rowan and Mike
Big help
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Mike says...
Nick if the seeds are clean and properly labelled they should make it through.Mangosteen have short viability and are equatorial but spanish limes are only tropical.If you're in the market for botanical challenges they should deliver.
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Nick says...
Thanks Mike, I was worried that the mangosteen wouldnt survive the 2-4 weeks.
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Mike says...
If mangosteen seeds are clean and dry I doubt that they would last 2 weeks.They are nucella inclusions rather than seeds so are not fertilised.Contrary to what is sometimes said there is some genetic variation owing to several strains being derived from seperate original crossing events.
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Gus says...
Hi Amanda,
Long weekend coming up and I think I have enough tomatoes to make a little sauce now.
Have you ever used plastic beer bottles with screw top lids?
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amanda says...
Hey Gus...I have never used plastic for preserving anything liquid Gus. Someone else might know..?
I am just not fan of re-using plastic bottles for this purpose...there is no way of telling how the plastic might react with the acidic vinegar or such, in any recipe. These bottles were not actually designed for this purpose...?

There is a book called "Death by Rubber Ducky" which is quite enlightening about re-using the various plastics (by code No.), heating the different codes, microwaving them etc.
(Many folk are still unaware that Glad wrap should not be used in a microwave, for eg..?)

Personal choice though. As long as u can sterilise them - then they should do the job for you :)
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Gus says...
Thanks Amanda, I will take your advice on that one and get myself some glass beer bottles. Just thought screw tops may be easier than hammering on those beer bottle tops, but I did worry about a plasticy taste. Vinegar may react with the plastic.
Cheers

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amanda says...
That's why it's handy to recycle the new screw cap wine bottles.. ;-) Get your mates to collect them if u don't drink it yourself, etc..they are very handy...

(ps - just avoid the trendy tall ones that won't fit into the fridge door pockets...hehe)
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Julie says...
Does anyone grow Zucche de Chiogga? Everything I've read about this pumpkin sounds wonderful,but can't seem to find it in Oz.

Only seems to be available in Italy. I'm wondering if I can import it?

I first came across it in Barbara Kingsolver's 'Animal, Vegetable, Miracle' - a really lovely book.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
The variety "Ironbark" sold by Diggers I think is syonymous with Marina di Chioggia, it looks the same and I must say is the best tasting pumpkin I have grown, rich orange flesh and bakes up beautifully.
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VF says...
Another source for Marina di Chiogga is found at http://theitaliangardener.com.au . The rest of their vegies are worth taking a look at too - lots of heritage Italian/European seeds, produce I remember my Grandmother growing. Delicious!
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Julie says...
Thanks Phil and VF. The Ironbark sounds good.

I never liked pumpkin until I tasted one a friend called Chinese pumpkin. It was an oval shape and really delicious. If I can chase it down again (I lost it) I will try and find the proper name.
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