cherimoya

Wayne says...
Hello Peter

I would strongly suggest you buy a seedling unless there is some special reason you want seeds.

Wayne says...
Thanks Vanessa, I was hunting around because that "grafted" had me stumped. My Cherimoya is a seedling from Bunnings, not grafted.

We have a thread in the archives about this and the consenses was that they need to be hand pollinated. My tree hasn't flowered yet so I'm wondering what is going to happen

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/search.php?q=cherimoya+&SType=

Vanessa says...
Hi Peter and Wayne,
A seedling tree will take quite a number of years to bear fruit, however a grafted fruit tree bears usually in 2-3 yrs, I have the Tropic Sun Custard Apple and sell them for $25 plus postage and being grafted will get to about 3mtrs in height. They like a warm sunny protected site. I would be happy to include for you a couple of cherimoyas.

Cheers Vanessa

Wayne says...
I just had to go look
http://www.custardapple.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=53
"There are two main varieties of Custard Apples, the Pinks Mammoth (or Hillary White) and the African Pride --Pinks Mammoth are large super sweet fruit which some growers hand pollinate at flowering to improve fruit shape"
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http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5495.html#Know what you are getting into
"Hillary White and Pinks Mammoth varieties must be hand pollinated (because of low levels of natural pollination) to achieve profitable yields of high quality fruit.--- African Pride is not normally hand pollinated,"
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http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5497.html#Varieties

Couldn't find anything of interest on Cherimoya

Tony says...
Hi Vanessa,

I was after a grafted Tropic sun custard apple, do you still have them available, if not, by when.

I am particularly interested in the grafted variety, as I have a bit of a space limitation and 3M seems right for me.

How is the fruit quality for seeds, as in, are there few or too many seeds in the fruit, and does it need pollination or not.

Thanks

Tony

kert says...
It used to be sold by Birdwood Nursery.yonks ago. I've got it and seeds too.

kert says...
I've maybe 10 feral cherimoya seedlings ,some over 6 years old and they produce v.poorly .True I don't give them much but a friend who took my seedlings has had no success either. Do you have first hand experience, Jason?

J says...
I've just purchased a Southern Knight Cherimoya from Perrys fruit and nut. I've read varying reports (glowinski says its good, some people on this forum say its not that great in melbourne) about this variety. Any one had any hands on experience with Southern Knight?

Also, Daleys have some "White" Cherimoya for sale right now. I've read people saying the fruit doesn't taste very good here in melbourne. Again anyone in this thread had any experience growing "white" in Vic with good fruiting results?

kert says...
Yes, some cherimoyas do not need hand pollinating ;Spain is such a one (in Sydney anyway). White is v. good here . It is large low seed count but oddly some years it is poor for no apparent reason . And it does split.

j says...
My southern knight is in the ground and is dropping leaves, apparently all cherimoya in vic drop leaves about this time.

I was at a (very generous) persons garden last weekend in melbourne who had a fino de jete that was growing very nicely, 7-8 foot tall, 4 years old but no flowers or fruit as of yet. Interesting.

BJ says...
The 'white' I purchased last year from Daley's is flowering quite alot now. Its a bit over a foot tall and has been in a 30cm pot since last year. Will go in the ground soon, once I chop down a cocos palm near its planned spot, as it might fall on it.

peter says...
hi william,
try perrys fruit and nut
kangarilla rd mcclaren flat
ph. 83830268

John Mc says...
Vanessa, where are you....?
I'm also keen to get a couple of Tropic Sun custard apple trees as well if you're still around.
Fitzroy nursery in Rockhampton are the propagators but will only send a minimum of 9 at a time. I would like two or three. If you read this please contact me via coastalskylightatbpondcomau
or anyone else that has any for sale.

kert says...
Several posts quote varieties of attemoya as if they are cherimoyas The two terms are not interchangeable ie African Pride is an attemoya.

Jason says...
You'll get a rude shock if you try and grow an Atemoya in a climate that's borderline for Cherimoyas :), when it comes to growing in cool conditions the difference is growing ok and being dead. Also I know it's subjective but none of the Atemoya's taste as good as a good Cherimoya's (like Fino for example)

peter says...
hi john,
sorry to tell you this but obi valley
and vanessa are the same people.

John Mc says...
I'm trying to identify the below mentioned Cherimoya I found on an old abandoned property a couple of weeks ago. It's a very large old tree and appears to self pollinate extremly well going by the number of fruit set, see pic. Someone back up the post count mentioned that Spain is a self pollinator, any other clues from the pics? I'm determining whether it's worth propagating or not.
Hang on, I over compressed the pics-be back soon with bigger.

John Mc says...
There's plenty of seed peter, around 40 good hard seeds per fruit. Smaller than Atemoya. Have you tried the fruit yourself? Just picked some more today, I can only get 6 fruit in a large plastic coles bag.

I'm having trouble getting the pics larger, going to try again.

John Mc says...
I give up, I've uploaded them as 1024 x 768 as I usually do averaging less than 500Kb ea. Any suggestions? These are great pics of an old Cherimoya tree.

John Mc says...
I've been too eager to crack them open so could probably taste better. I have to be more patient and let them ripen a little more.
I wonder how many varieties were in Australia 20+ years ago? The tree looks older, but literature says they only grow for 20 years.

Phil@Tyalgum says...
Here's that pic fellas

http://www.fruitipedia.com/cherimoya.htm

Jason says...
Upload those pictures to tinypic.com so we can see them in full size

Jason says...
How far South? they grow perfectly in Melbourne, not quite so perfectly here but you still get fruit. I fruited one in about 2003? first time but still haven't had perfect trasting fruit like they should be

snottiegobble says...
Hey John Mc theyre nice big shots & nice big fruit & its only 11:28! LOL!
How big are your trees after 8 years Jason?

Jason says...
P.S I don't think those fruit would be quite ripe yet

Jason says...
If they are yellow and a few have dropped from the tree then they should be ripe I suppose. Not sure about the rattly seeds because they will go half soft on the tree and nothing is going to rattle then. But it's not even Winter yet. Winter through late Spring is Cherimoya season.

I would expect a Cherimoya grown in Sydney to be around about as good as a Mango or Lychee, they are a very good fruit

Jason says...
40 Years ago is pretty early times for Cherimoya. It would have to have been one of the first planted here. Was this Grandmother from somewhere Cherimoyaish ? Peru-Ecuador-Mexico? maybe she imported seeds herself

Jason says...
What I'd like to know is do they normally self pollinate in Sydney this well or is the tree special in that way. I'd give some scions and seeds both a go though just to see the difference against the few I have

John Mc says...
I read that the "White" cv. had a typical heart shaped fruit. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Here's some typical fruit hanging off the tree.

Also some pics of the trunk of that old Cherimoya tree as well.

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J says...
could some please tell me from looking at these pics if these are flowers on my cherimoya tree?

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denise1 says...
If you find a cherimoya tree that sets well naturally, look around the flowers and see what insect is providing the pollen transfer service. You can then introduce it to your own tree. It will work best if you dont overspray your tree, In NZ we can get heavy setting from a native tiny insect that is barely visible. Called Thrips obscurata, it dines on pollen and hops or flies? from flower to flower and sets fruit for you. This year my tree set nearly nothing simply because the tree needed a rest. Some pollen munchers do excess damage at times but this one has proven ideal so far. If you want more flowers to appear you need to cut off 2 or 3 leaves half way along the stem of foliage. Then trim back the last few inches of stem. You will shortly get new flowers. As flower buds are under/inside the the leaf petioleon the stem. Hard to describe-just go and have a look.

denise1 says...
They are possibly eating the pollen or each other. The balance may tip in your favour when that humidity arrives.

veevee says...
Hello Vanessa, do you still have Cherimoya seedlings? I would like to buy one of you or swap for another plant that I have.

Jason says...
Wow, I've never had a Cherimoya ripen this early in the year. You must have some good suitable growing conditions for them. I think Fino has the most potential, lets wait and see :).

Jason says...
Mine flower from late December to about March, but mostly wont pollinate until it gets foggy in late March. In anycase they don't ripen until after the leaves drop in about November. It would need to be a lot warmer here than it is to see one in August or September

Jason says...
Yeah they grow huge in the proper environment, nothing like the shrubs they are in Vic :). You should see how big sapotes and avocados get in Mexico. Like full size oak trees