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Growing Duruka/Saccharum edule

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Jo starts with ...
I am wondering if anyone knows if you can grow Duruka (fijian name)or PitPit(SE Asian name)/Saccharum edule in QLD.
I wouldn't even know where to start looking for it or even if we are allowed to grow it because of sugarcane regulations(it can carry some sort of sugar cane fungus-I think).....boy its tasty though!!
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Anonymous says...
Saccharum edule is a known host species for sugarcane smut disease and is probably not permitted in QLD. Suggest you enquire with Dept of Primary Industries or quarantine authorities for confirmation.
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Jude says...
I too have been looking for a Saccarum edule plant. I bought a plant labelled Pitpit / Darooka (Saccaram spotaneum) from Isabell Shipard's Herb Nursery near Gympie a couple of years ago. It appears to be very similar. The shoots were described as an edible delicacy. Mine has yet to flower.
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Jo says...
Jude, I found out from the DPI that Saccarum edule is not permitted in QLD because it can mess with the sugar industry (it can carry sugar cane smut).
So I doubt you'll actually be able to buy it anywhere.
Cheers
Jo
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Rev says...
of course its here.
you just have to befriend the right people.
2 hints. they have a good sense of humour and fuzzy hair.
you can also get nice pieces of domestic cane cultivars for chewing. I saw a lovely variegated one looked like a striped bamboo.

Looks like Cane smut is here now anyway
was bound to arrive sooner or later
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Suren says...
Hi,
We are the largest growers of the Duruka in Fiji and export the fruits to Australia/NZ/USA/Canada in brine as it is not permitted to be grown in Australia. If you need to place an order I am quite happy to arrange for the product but as you say it is a delicacy and fruits once a year only (in May.
If you also know the techniques to package the product in Nitrogen sealed packs I am interested to discuss further.
bet regards
Suren
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Rev says...
There would be rules about movement of sugar canes, but only within designated areas. Like with bananas
If you are outside the zones then therd be no restrictions

for example im sure thered be no rules against growing it in sydney
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Rev says...
i know where a plant is
i looked at it the other day and the top looks to be swelling
looks like its due to flower
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Rev says...
Does anyone know about Highland pit pit? from PNG
Setaria palmifolia

i keep reading its edible, but how? published info is thin on the ground for PNG vegetables
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Rev says...
also
i looked it up and it doesnt appear theres any restrictions in qld in moving pit pit
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Jude says...
When I lived in PNG in the 60s and 70s I regularly bought two varieties of pitpit - Saccharum edule and Setaria palmifolia from the markets. In both cases, what is eaten is the fleshy unopened flowering shoot of a coarse grass. We generally cooked pitpit in the same way as sweet-corn, by steaming or baking in their outer leaves. S. edule was often steeped in coconut milk and boiled and this made it a real delicacy. I have since tried to grow both varieties, but without success.

I have a copy of R.J. May's book, 'Kaikai Aniani - A Guide to Bushfoods Markets and Culinary Arts of Papua New Guinea' (1984) which has the following entry on Highland Pitpit ..."NEW GUINEA ASPARAGUS, HIGHLAND PITPIT. This is a coarse grass which is cultivated and occurs wild. Cultivated varieties are found in most markets around the country. Many varieties exist, some with broad, dark green leaves, some with red. The soft inner shoot of the plant is eaten, and in the market the bundles of these long thin greens may be mistaken for the enclosed infloresences of Saccharum edule (also called pitpit). Strip the outside leaves and steam or bake. the cooked vegetable tastes something like corn-flavoured asparagus. The soft inner shoot may also be eaten raw."

The book has an excellent photo showing the two varieties side-by-side. The S. edule shoots are red-tinged and much larger and plumper.
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trikus says...
Asian lady sells it around Mission Beach .
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peter says...
Suren, we can help with nitrogen packing technology. Please let us know the volume of business you can do for us to quote on the technology. Please provide your contact details.
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viju says...
now duruka is available from Mackay and
sold in Brisbane. Contact Mr. David lal on (07) 32738724 now for a very limited
time price $27kg incl postage delivered
at you doorstep next day and you have to
pay him by depositing money into his
nominated bank a/c. first.
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Mike says...
It is listed as one of the plants available at Shipards Herb Farm at Nambour.I understand they are a well known outfit.
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duruka says...
dont let it flower it wont be edible then. when the leaf area is fat harvest it and the fruit inside is edible. Cut it from just below where the leaves are. its like peeling the onion. I am from fiji and we used go grow it. we used to roast it with the leaves still on the open fire. the leaves steam cook it. We also peeled the leaves off and cooked it in coconut cream or make curry out of it.

Sally
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sai says...
I strongly recommend that duruka is planted far away from sugar cane because it is an alternate host of Fiji leaf gall disease which is caused by a virus and is classed as a serious disease in Australia. It sure tastes delicious though especially in coconut cream....cheers!!
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MaryT says...
I have a plant from a friend, yea! And I'm nowhere near a cane field. However, I'm wondering how I can grow it on a concrete carport? Would it be happy in a pot? Will it die from cold though our winter is mild with no frost?

Found this amusing post on the net about PNG Pit Pit. Good information re cooking as well, with pics.

P.S. Link: http://agoddessinthekitchen.blogspot.com/2009/11/one-of-things-i-wanted-to-do-while-i.html
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John Mc says...
It'll be fine there Mary and in Sydney it will be fine in a pot as well. I've got it growing at my place only an hour's drive north of Sydney. It certainly doesn't perform as well as it does in the tropics, but it survives and grows slowly. My ordinary sugar cane, green and red vars. are doing well after two seasons in the ground.
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MaryT says...
Thanks, John Mc - you have sugar cane growing an hour from Sydney? Are they edible? I have fond memories of chewing on sugar cane as a child. :)
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micarle says...
MaryT i have the purple sugarcane growing in the ground and i get down to zero most winters, tough plants
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MaryT says...
Thanks, micarle; sugar cane at zero - I learn something from this site everyday. Mike also gave me a sugar cane that's sprouting; I am surrounded by his generosity.
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Jill says...
I am really interested to get a plant of Daruka (pit pit) and would appreciate anyone giving me some info on where to get it. I grew up in Fiji and really enjoy the local Fiji food.
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AAK says...
Hi Suren, can you give me details about exporting it to Los Angeles?

Thanks
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Hakwa says...
Hi,
We have a farm in Sigatoka Fiji and we are the largest producers of Duruka in Fiji. We vacuum pack, seal and sell in the export market and domestically in Fiji.
My email : ceocmda@gmail.com

Regards
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Atul says...
Hi Hakwa,
If vacuum packed and treated to quarantine requirements it can be exported to various countries.
Please advise if you interested and I can approach the quarantine and find the requirements....cheers
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emnau says...
we grow pit-pit tweed heads nsw for twenty years. ex-png. Microwave, butter, maggi sauce. many p.i.'s have in their gardens
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John Mc says...
Isn't only the flower edible?, no or little sugar in the stalk?
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Mike says...
Flowers only John Mc and my ones are 4m tall and ready for picking right now.You were the source,thanks.
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V says...
Emnau, can I please get some cutting/stems from you to try to grow pit-pit. I am located in western suburbs of Brisbane. Thanks
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Sashi says...
Are you able to send me some seeds so I can grow them?
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Mike Tr says...
They grow from cutting or sections really like sugar cane, rather than from seeds.
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Kissi Klink says...
Pitpit is widely grown in Cairns, Australia. Being a tropical plant it survives here but only bears in the month of May every year.
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Mike Tr says...
March as well.
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prem says...
please contact me
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Tau says...
Peter, please contact me on
0430836605

thanks
Tau
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Tau says...
Hi Prem,
you can contact me on 0430836605

thanks
Tau
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Atul says...
Hi Mike Tr and Kissi Klink,
Can you put me in touch with one of the growers. I am looking at getting some in the next season.

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Mike Tr says...
I hacked mine out last year but spread some cuttings around. Some people who grow red pit pit didn't have the green kind like mine.I can keep an eye out.
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Samin says...
Hi just wondering how we can get fresh daruka in Sydney. Have been looking for it .
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Amram says...
There is fresh daruka from Queensland being sold in Sydney. Look for it in Sydney Market or Indian shops
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OneataVasu says...
https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/growing-durukasaccharum-edule/#comment: DDuruka is from Sorghum, ancient grain (Africa). 1st recorded 1500s when Italy received seeds from Africa - 'Broom Corn'. The Grain & Legume Nutrition Council (Australia) looking into growing it in Qld, maybe to replace sugar cane as it uses less irrigated water and may have better health benefits as a grain cf wheat, corn etc.
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