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About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 12th February 2012 8:43am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Brendon I have never heard of it and only a fai zee siu could approach those dimension in Aust.I thought.It will have to be a renamed sth chinese or nth thailand sort I reckon.I wonder what its real name is?Have you seen them? If we know its colour,skin,shape,season,tree shape andfoliage type we could look through the tables of the 100's of chines ones to find a match. | About the Author Cairns 12th February 2012 8:56am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brendan says... Hi Mike, this grower actually went to China and bought them back, legally of course. He sourced it from the research station in China. I 'think' it's a brand new variety. He says,"Normally it takes a lychee tree 5 to 7 years to produce fruit, but the Erdon Lee is producing in just 3 years". There's a story & photos in the latest Blue's Country Magazine (Feb 2012). Geez they look good, just normal colour, but a lot bigger! | About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 12th February 2012 9:10am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Brendan most of the new ones are local types that get brough into commercial production.3 years is pretty normal for the first light crop.I wonder what it taste like? Maybe it could muscle fai zee siu out of the premier position if it has small seeds and a good tatse.100g sounds a bit exaggerated but if it is in black and white it must be true. I bet it will be grown under licence or agreement with no one else getting trees.Mangoes,lychees,dragon fruit and wax apples are vulnerable to good overseas ones storming the market because we are behind with varieties. | About the Author Cairns 12th February 2012 9:19am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Peter36 Perth 12th February 2012 1:48pm #UserID: 5034 Posts: 213 View All Peter36's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Peter I suspect you are right but I'm optimistic after trying sensational lychees in Chang Mai.Look at how bad bengal lychees are and kwai mai pink (bosworth) are small and have only a sugar water flavour with no 'rose' or 'musk'.Fai zee siu are huge,with a small seed and great flavour,at least as good as mauritious.Yook ho pow was supposed to be a new wonder lychee that disappeared into the fog never to be heard from again. There are factors like productivity and disease resistance that are as important to a grower as fruit quality. | About the Author Cairns 12th February 2012 2:06pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter says... We are so behind in WA. All what's there on the shelves is simply called lychee - no cultivar name. I would have no idea which one it is and the market is so small that there is no motivation to supply top quality to eager customers. They seem to just sit on the shelves until brown and tasteless. Every cultivar grown in someones backyard will be way better then what we get in the shops (even Bengal). 100g would be really sensational, but could be possible - you never know. If you think of the huge Thai guavas - they are about 10 times the weight of a ordinary one. Likewise some mango cultivars. Would be good to get someone in the discussion who knows about genetics - I think something like this is possible to appear fast (without long breeding effort), when chromosomes have tripled or more... | About the Author Peter36 Perth 12th February 2012 4:11pm #UserID: 5034 Posts: 213 View All Peter36's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... If they were prone to polyploidy and that improved varieties it would probably have driven new variety selection in sthn china. It is crazy that the west misses out on one of the finest fruits around.Bengals are an embarrassment to lychees.Marcots of fai zee siu and mauritious tai so should be everywhere around Perth.It is like if only the stringy turpentine mangoes were available instead of bowens. | About the Author Cairns 12th February 2012 4:27pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... It looks all lychees are diploid and varieties are seedling derived, with a very low proportion as good as their parents.It seems there are no experts on lychee genetics but there is chinese expertise on 'expression' in different environments.The upper size limit I found for any reference was up to 42g max for one chinese type and anything over 28g is considered large. | About the Author Cairns 13th February 2012 6:59pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... sdfjseterjtyafgaertyaerugadn Sorry, my jaw just hit the keyboard! I'll have to make up with my estranged family in Sarina and get them to see if they sell locally, so they can send some fruit down for tasting. If they sell trees, out comes a mango! Looks like some of the fruit also form siamese twins, doubling their size. I've found this with one longan recently too. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 14th February 2012 12:24pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author amanda19 Geraldton, 400km North of Perth 14th February 2012 4:52pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... What a picture and it appears real. Blue's Country Magazine were lucky to get the jump on National Geographic and the research station was kind to release it to Australian farmers, perhaps ahead of their own.Being more than double the size of the previous biggest is really pushing back the frontiers.This is especially excellent when it is understood the tree is precocious.I bet it is extra sweet as well. We could all soon be tucking into 100g lychees making the rest obsolete.Why do I have these nagging doubts? | About the Author Cairns 14th February 2012 5:25pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 18th February 2012 10:59am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... While even a small sprig can be grafted onto a marcot at home,I didn't really think you guys would be darting between the shadows and creating diversions.Raking your teeth over a huge seeds to get a veneer of flesh would make it like a bengal variety,except a huge disappointment instead of a medium sized one. | About the Author Cairns 18th February 2012 1:29pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Jason when you're in the supermarket comparing prices and thinking about things like seed size you'll also need to know the skin thickness.Forgetting about taste for the moment, your surface area to volume spot calculations in your cost/benefit analysis won't mean much without that skin thickness data. | About the Author Cairns 18th February 2012 6:07pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Anyone hear any more about this one? I'd be interested to find out if and where they might send the fruit. I expect they won't release trees for 5-7 years, after their own orchard is at peak performance and their income stream from fruit sales is optimal and they need to diversify into selling trees. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 7th December 2013 11:11am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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lizze says... Heard about this variety on ABC radio. As a former Nth Qlder, tropical fruit lover & hobby gardener I'm wondering if these are available to purchase on-line & shipped to SE Qld. I understand these have been only recently sold commercially into the fruit markets, but what about 1 grafted tree? thanks. | About the Author lizze Nambour 27th December 2017 11:33am #UserID: 17590 Posts: 1 View All lizze's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Megan9 WOOMBYE,4559,QLD 25th February 2018 12:54pm #UserID: 18013 Posts: 4 View All Megan9's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Fruitylicious1 TAMWORTH,2340,NSW 2nd March 2018 5:34pm #UserID: 16885 Posts: 709 View All Fruitylicious1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Trikus Tully 2nd March 2018 8:13pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Fruitylicious1 says... Hi Trikus Thanks for the info. I have read that there are four ways to propagate lychees. 1. Seeds - selection of improved cultivars can only come from the selection of new superior seedling lychee cultivars though it will take somewhere around ten years to develop a new improved variety. Unless some cashed-up growers have managed to produce genetically modified lychees in the Lab which is highly unlikely. 2. Marcotting/air layering - the most popular and the easiest form of lychee propagation with 80% or more success rate among pro growers. 3. Cutting - has also good success rate but not very popular with commercial growers because of its longer holding time before planting. 4. Grafting and Budding - can also be done but, with limited success rate and needs grafting expertise and plant material compatibility to be effective. Happy gardening :-) | About the Author Fruitylicious1 TAMWORTH,2340,NSW 3rd March 2018 8:59pm #UserID: 16885 Posts: 709 View All Fruitylicious1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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theonetruepath says... I just bought some in Coles New Farm, Brisbane, $33 per kg. Slightly bigger than normal, like 40-45g. Skin a bit thicker, not much, but the soft skin under the shell noticeably tougher and separates from the shell more than normal. Taste very good, strong rose flavour, plenty sweet and slightly acid. Sorry I took no pics, but very similar to the pic posted previously - slightly irregular shapes, not completely round. I would love to know how the tree handles Perth... | About the Author theonetruepath Floreat 8th February 2019 7:00pm #UserID: 19782 Posts: 2 View All theonetruepath's Edible Fruit Trees |
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David01 says... Hi theonetruepath, I have Erdon Lee. It grows well in Melbourne and should be no problem in Perth. Daleys sold it last year at $89 now drops to $59 which is a very good buy. It gave a lot of flowers last year but still too young to set fruit. Cheers
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theonetruepath says... This season I can buy Erdon Lee locally in Perth. They are being marketed as "Dragon Eggs" for $50 per kg. Now I've had them about five times I would rate the flavour as better than the typical super sweet smooth skin varieties but not as good as the more tasty/acid rough skin varieties we got in South Africa which are also available here now for more like $22 per kg. | About the Author theonetruepath Floreat 16th January 2020 11:10am #UserID: 19782 Posts: 2 View All theonetruepath's Edible Fruit Trees |
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