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FAYE starts with ...
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR PASSIONFRUITS WITH GRAFTED AND CUTTING. IS ONE BETTER THAT THE OTHER.
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23rd July 2015 5:14pm
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sternus1 says...
WHAT?? SPEAK UP!
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23rd July 2015 5:17pm
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Tommoz says...
Yes, grafted ones are more reliable. Do not write with caps lock (all capital letters).
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sternus1 says...
Please ignore Tommoz comments RE the passionfruit, grafted specimens are absolutely NOT more reliable. In fcat a perusal of this site will reveal many commenst about how their grafted specimens ( especially Nelly Kelly black) never fruited.

Passionfruit grow true, grow faster from seed, and are hardy enough without rootstocks to prop them up. You also have to worry about the rootstock overtaking the top growht with grafted passionfruit. Grafting passionfruit is one of the silliest things currently done in horticulture, along with grafting mulberries.
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Waterfall says...
Having planted both types I would never touch a grafted one again, I've got rootstock suckers coming up everywhere in the soil around the vine.
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MIke T1 says...
Grafting is mainly for certainty of variety as there can be a chance of out crossing when different varieties are close. It is also useful where rootstock qualities like disease resistance or cold tolerance can be an advantage.Generally seedlings seedlings do better in most ways and you would only consider grafted ones in special circumstances.
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23rd July 2015 8:00pm
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Hi Faye and all,
FAYE starts with ...
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR PASSIONFRUITS WITH GRAFTED AND CUTTING. IS ONE BETTER THAT THE OTHER.
after all that the QUESTION still not answered.

Grafted vs cuttings, probably depends a lot on your climate and site, fruit quality should be good either way.
In Sanctuary Cove either should be ok,
as any passionfruit should grow ok.
As mentioned, wild species rootstocks can cause problems, but not all PF are grafted on those.

Seedlings can be a bit variable, ie size of the fruit and ammount of pulp inside. This is more so with seedlings of hybrids, as always the results will be variable.( probably more effect than actual outcrossing Mike ).
With a grafted, you know exactly what quality fruit you'll be getting, along with the problems of the roostock as mentioned above.
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Mike Tr says...
True enough jk and many of the newer types have not stabilized completely.
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Manfred says...
I'm a bit inclined to run with Waterfall and Sternus on this. (I didn't think Waterfall's response left any room at all for doubt which he thought was better).

My first passionfruits were panama red seedlings given to me by an old tree-grower who had moved into town, and I haven't needed to introduce any new material since. I wouldn't bother to grow anything but panama reds because I have never seen them beaten for taste, size or juiciness.

In a cooler climate there might be other considerations. Certainly, the productivity of the Norfolk Island purples would be hard to beat.

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Markmelb says...
Years ago I planted a Nellie Kelli - It didnt do well i the spot it was in - died soon after (I think Iwould do a better job now days)
It took 2 years to get rid of the rotten wild suckers - they ruined an aspargus bed nearby - with hindsight would only plant a seedling - would like to plant a Panama but have no room left rather grow Kiwis in that spot.
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24th July 2015 1:44pm
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Waterfall says...
My Pandora seedling flowered and produced fruit exactly 1 year after planting ,however, I think it would have happened sooner if it was not in a pot for the first 8 months or so. Once it was removed from the pot it literally took off!

My grafted vine is a Nellie Kelli black and it flowered exactly 6 months after planting but has not set fruit as the flowering coincided with the start of winter.

I have propagated the Pandora for family and friends by taking cuttings off the vine with 100% success so far.
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Chris says...
Panama Red and Pandora (which Daleys describes as a P.R selection and more tropical than black) are not ideal for Sydney. If you can provide background radiant heat in full sun then perhaps is ok. I found my PR took too long to sweeten up and many that dropped in spring were sour. In comparison my Norfolk Island is prolific and I get quite a few sweet fruit late autumn/winter, weather permitting, not just in spring.
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25th July 2015 1:20pm
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