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Kym starts with ...
This tree is about 15+ years old and we built a cage around it when it was a lot smaller to provide shade for some goannas. Its very pretty, doesn't drop a lot of leaves. It has very small yellow flower structures and the new growth in spring in bronze/red in colour. Its about 12 foot at the moment and is quite slow growing (its early years were probably a bit tough). It doesn't get any watering except in the middle of the drought it started to look poorly so it was the sole recipient of a bucketed water out of the entire yard as I like it a lot. It seems to be a nice shade treee and I would like a couple more. What can you tell me about it?
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Time: 24th January 2009 10:19am

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RolFlor a says...
What are the metric measurements of the tree,or do you live in Brisbane,U.S.A.?
When you say '12 foot',do you mean 12 feet?
Is it not deciduous?
No fruit?
Have you taken a leaf and flower and photo of the tree to a garden shop for identification help yet?Try the ABC TV Gardening Australia Brisbane question-time,if there is such a thing,search their website for it.

Time: 24th January 2009 8:48pm

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Ellen says...
looks like a willow tree Kym,

I know, though I am not an expert . B/c I had to pull 1 in front of my property so I could excavate for building of a new one. And the council man said it was such. If you would crush 1 of the leaves, it smelled very nice very scented like those of the Eucalyptus.

But the root of this tree can be very destructive if it is planted close to a house.
I had to hired people to dig up the roots from it with bull dozer.

Time: 24th January 2009 11:05pm

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peter says...
ellen,
i know of only one sort of tree that
we call a willow tree over here. (not sure if your referring to the same willow).
but it is totaly differant from the willow tree here.

Time: 25th January 2009 3:45pm

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RolFlor a says...
WILLOW it is...NOT.
And it is... not the scented leaf tree that you are thinking of,i.e. the chinese pest tree Camphor laurel (Cinnamomum camphora).
Take a branch with leaves etc to any council, for identification.


Time: 25th January 2009 8:11pm

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juz says...
Yea, looks like camphor laurel to me too RolFlor.... Crush some leaves and smell them... If it is a strong scent, probably is one. Massive, vigerous, weedy, and the roots will get into everything and destroy them.....

Time: 25th January 2009 9:03pm

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RolFlor a says...
It is NOT the Camphor laurel.

Time: 26th January 2009 5:29pm

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Kym says...
Sorry, I have been away but I have a tentative i.d. syringifolia barklya.

I know camphorlaurels and willows and it isn't one of those. This one is slowgrowing and the roots after 15 years haven't been seen anywhere else.

The leaves are relatively stiff and don't lie flat. The tree is about 12 foot high and less than that wide,..perhaps 9 or 10 foot.

Would you agree with that i.d.?

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Time: 15th February 2009 9:12pm

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Kym says...
Also forgot to add, I am in Brisbane Australia.
I mean a foot as in 12 inches.
No fruit and not deciduous. Very small yellow flowers, barely seen in the foliage.

Time: 15th February 2009 9:14pm

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RolFlor a says...
When you say it is 12 foot high,do you mean it is 12 feet high?
What are the metric measurements of the tree?
Australia has been metric since 1970,which is a very long +30 years ago.
The U.S.A. uses feet and inches,so do you live there?

Have you taken the leaf etc to the Brisbane Botanic Gardens, Brisbane Council or garden shop etc,yet,for help with identifying it?

When you say it is the syringifolia barklya,do you mean the Barklya syringifolia?
Why do you think it is the barklya?
Here is a photo of the barklya leaf,and it does look like your tree leaf.

Do your flowers look the same as the flowers in this photo?
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Time: 19th February 2009 3:49pm

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Fanny says...
She already said she was in Brisbane, Australia..

Time: 19th February 2009 9:20pm

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peter says...
the mention of goannas in the first centance should have been another clue.

Time: 19th February 2009 9:26pm

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stu says...
I agree with RolFlor. Definantly not a camphor. They are fast growing to start with and different leaf and body shape.

Time: 19th February 2009 10:11pm

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stu says...
I reckon RolFlor a has got the right tree in the picture by comparison of leaf shape. Leave the 30 years and metric to imperial alone though. Some of us can work just as well with both.

Time: 19th February 2009 10:15pm

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RolFlor a says...
To Peter : "...centance..."!?
Is that your new metric money system?
God...help me,please.

To stu ,and Kym : Is petrol in Australia selling for about 30 pence a gallon or 1 pound and 10 pence a quart?

Does your car get about 2 miles to a gallon?
Or 10 miles a quart?

Time: 25th February 2009 7:19am

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Carlos says...
That should be "per" pound or quart, not "a".

Time: 25th February 2009 7:34am

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Jantina says...
Back to plants please.

Time: 25th February 2009 8:01am

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Kym says...
Yes! that's the leaf exactly! In the pic you posted.
As for the imperial versus metric, I guesstimated the size using a piece of 4x2. LOL! Sorry but I find it hard to think lengths in metric...sad to say though in weights I think in metric, no problems.
Thank you for the help in identifying this tree.

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Time: 9th March 2009 5:08pm

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R OlFlora says...
Estimated or guessed instead of guesstimated.
Do you mean measured with a 4x2?

Time: 11th March 2009 6:15pm

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Julie says...
ROlFlora, I take part in lots of forums, and see horrible spelling and grammar mistakes all the time.If I corrected every one I would be on the computer for hours! So just let them go and stop nitpicking.

Time: 11th March 2009 6:37pm

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backyard gardener says...
Hi all,

I found this tree in the backyard of my house and I don't know what it is? If you know the name please let me know.

Thanks in advance.
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Time: 3rd October 2011 8:49pm

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Speedy says...
Looks like Mimuspos elengi (Sapotaceae)
If so, flowers should have a sweet fragrance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimusops_elengi

yep that's it I reckon ;-)


Time: 4th October 2011 12:23am

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backyard gardener says...
Many thanks Speedy, I won't be able to check the flowers until the next blossoms but I think you are right according to the link.

Time: 4th October 2011 8:42am

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backyard gardener says...
Hi all,

It would be nice if you could tell me what are the name of these trees/vine please.

Many thanks in advance
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Time: 28th October 2011 9:51pm

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backyard gardener says...
Picture 2 has some fruits look like small plums turn dark colour when ripe.

Time: 28th October 2011 9:58pm

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amanda says...
I have no idea but I will have a go!? Pepper vine, Jaboticaba and some weird Sapote...(we need one of the gurus B'gardener...)
Where on the tree is the fruit in Pic 2? (on the trunk?)

Time: 29th October 2011 7:22pm

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backyard gardener says...
Hi Amanda,

Pic 2, the 2 fruits at the bottom right of the picture

Time: 29th October 2011 8:22pm

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amanda says...
Pass. Sorry! Someone here will know. U may have to get some closer pics of fruit etc tho'. Where are u? (this will help also)

Time: 29th October 2011 11:29pm

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Speedy says...
Ok,
now judging by the species there (especially #3), I'm guessing that you're in the Northern half (or even third) of Australia...yes?
well here's my guess...

#1. Stephania japonica
#2.Polyscias elegans
#3. Cochlospermum sp.

Time: 3rd November 2011 9:24am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi all,

Please tell me the name of this tree/fruit/nut tree. It is 5 meter tall and has many small fruits with unusual shape many thanks in advance
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Time: 29th February 2012 6:30pm

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micarle says...
Artocarpus hypargyraeus????


Time: 29th February 2012 6:45pm

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trikus says...
Yes looks very much like it , been a good season up here for thewm . also called KwaiMuk.


Time: 1st March 2012 11:28am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Many thanks Micarle and Trikus. I am very much appreciated.

Time: 1st March 2012 1:06pm

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amanda says...
Really. The leaves look nothing like a Kwai Muk? Do they have lobed leaves as well as unlobed leaves?

I was pretty sure that the word hypargyreus had some origins in "lobed" ?

What about A.lakoocha..?

Time: 2nd March 2012 12:09am

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amanda says...
PS..here is a pic of my Kwai Muks leaf..they are either more, or less, "notched" than this..? (mostly less though)

Maybe it's a variant thing? Or is it an immaturity difference? (mine only 4 or 5 yrs old and have not flowered yet..)

Interesting, guys :)
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Time: 2nd March 2012 1:23am

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micarle says...
They look identical to my Kwai muk? Lakoocha leaves are rough like felt/sandpaper...


Time: 2nd March 2012 6:59am

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trikus says...
Change as they mature ..

Time: 2nd March 2012 9:59am

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amanda says...
Ah - thanks guys :) ....I love my tree - it's been so trouble free to grow and is a very handsome looking plant with a naturally good shape - do they grow up into a hansdome tree as well?

Time: 2nd March 2012 10:05am

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micarle says...
Yep they do there is a very old tree in the syd bot gardens... i will try get a pic shaped like a large dome/mushroom with a dark black trunk. I dug out my small tree and sent it to my parents place at Harrington

Time: 2nd March 2012 10:58am

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John Mc says...
Can anyone id these leaves by any chance?
The tree was due to be removed so I volunteered to dig it out and bring it home. Not an easy feat, it was a very large tree to manhandle. Hope it was worth the effort, I thought it is some form of Tamerind, any suggestions?
Oh, the bark is relatively smoothish for a 15 yo tree..
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denise says...
Maybe it is Cupaniopsis anacardioides,common name Tuckeroo. Not sure as its 4 years since i have seen one.

Time: 3rd March 2012 7:21am

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John Mc says...
Thank you for your reply Denise.
I can see the resemblance, although I didn't think the Tuckeroo leaves are as big as these? The larger leaves are longer than my hand. There's some Tuckeroo in the main street of Budgewoi, I'll go have a closer look.
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Time: 3rd March 2012 10:16am

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John Mc says...
I went out and plucked a few tuckeroo leaves to compare.
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Time: 3rd March 2012 2:38pm

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John Mc says...
Here's an indication on how large the leaves are if they can spark any suggestions. They're similar to the large leaf tamarind I have.
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Time: 3rd March 2012 10:12pm

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glennis says...
randia fitzalanii

Time: 3rd March 2012 10:57pm

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Mike says...
I don't think it is Randia fitzalani or in the gardenia group.A flower or fruit would give its identity away.I wonder if the corrugated leaves are a characteristic of the species.It seems to have distinctive swelling on the petioles.

Time: 3rd March 2012 11:35pm

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John Mc says...
I've tried to get some really close up shots of the petioles if that helps? plus some shots of the tree itself. I know, a flower or fruit would be a dead giveaway, but I'm impatient and would like to know what I've busted my a**e on getting this thing home.

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Time: 4th March 2012 11:05am

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Mike says...
I can't place it sorry John but it looks kinda familiar.

Time: 4th March 2012 3:17pm

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amanda says...
Cashew nut tree?

Time: 4th March 2012 4:02pm

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John Mc says...
I wish Amanda, looks very similar though.
Thanks for looking Mike.

This tree came off a property that has a large collection of fruiting flora from all over the world, personally collected by the previous owners up to 30 years ago. Most are 20 to 30 yo seeedling trees, the same property that has the previously mentioned African snot-apple and Moquillo (saurauia berry).

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Bud says...
Cashew Nut
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Time: 4th March 2012 6:37pm

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John Mc says...
Thanks Bud, it does look similar hey? That makes two votes for Cashew. I'd be happy if it was. I thought it would be too cold here for Cashew, although I have heard rumors of one fruiting not far from here. I haven't been able to locate that specimen yet.

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Has anyone mentioned jakfruit? Just a suggestion.

Time: 4th March 2012 7:14pm

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Mike says...
And one against. The leaves look the wrong shape,venation and colour to me and are too pale underneath.

Time: 4th March 2012 7:17pm

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BJ says...
Hard to think its not a type of tuckeroo. Something like C. diploglottoides would fit the bill. Huge leaves, pulvinus.

Time: 4th March 2012 8:08pm

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John Mc says...
Would anyone agree with this:

Dimocarpus longan subsp. longan - Longan (Naturalised)

Family : Sapindaceae
Originated in either Sub Tropical China or the area between Burma and India but now naturalised in rainforest in rainforest in the Cairns and Atherton areas at altitudes 0-760m.
There are two sub species and this one - Dimocarpus longan subsp. longan, is the one grown for its fruit.

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Mike says...
John it sure looks like a longan and the foliage in my hand now matches well.They only sometimes fruit here and are better suited to slightly drier and cooler weather.Naturalised is a word used for toads where a pest booms and then busts once it becomes part of the system and predators get them and diseases effect them.There are a few stray trees around parks,roads,rural areas and towns but they haven't really established wild populations that I know of.I think their taxonomy is a bit contentious and esarn longan and borneo longan are different species in the genus and obviously tuan (fiji longan) is very different.Longan foliage can look like tukeroo.

Time: 4th March 2012 9:18pm

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BJ says...
Yep. The native one is leggier.

Time: 4th March 2012 9:38pm

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John Mc says...
Cool, Thank you to everyone for all your suggestions. So we're getting close then. I'm happy with that. Now it's just a matter of waiting to see if it survives the move. They appear to propagate well by several means which is a bonus, and a bigger wait for the blooms.

BJ- did your scions arrive last Fri? If not, I packed them in damp hand towelling just in case the overnight express bags take a week to get there.


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BJ says...
No scions as yet. Tomorrow I hope.
Longan is in fruit now, so its a few months wait for the next flowering season. I've had a few corkers in the past few weeks. One I didnt catch the name of was twice the size of the biggest of the others with a fantastic flavour.

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Mike says...
Hey BJ ETA Wed/Thurs.500g was not enough to fit it all and the greens didn't make it.The burmese grapes were out of my control briefly and got eaten seeds and all in an unfortunate incident but the rest is there.Oh yeah no marangs either the seeds all rotted after being in a pot in the rain too long.The rest is there and they should be the best of their types.

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