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Roy starts with ...
Hi All,
I got a Secondo Avocado from Daleys in August 2008. It is planted in a raised garden bed (about the size of a large pot) but with access to the ground underneath. It is still surviving ok but has not really grown much since I planted it. There are a few brown spots on some of the leaves - not sure if this was from the very hot weather we experienced in Sydney a couple of weeks ago.
Any advice appreciated.
My main concern is the lack of growth - is this normal for young avocados ? I was expecting a fair bit of growth in Spring / Summer
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Wayne says...
Hello Roy
That is a pretty sad looking avo tree, my thoughts are [pic 1] there seems to be shade over the tree from a patio? The rest say to me that the tree is over watered, under nourished and becoming root bound.

It needs open spaces and fresh air with plenty of sunshine to make it healthy and strong [just like kids who eat vegemite] lol
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Roy says...
Thanks Wayne,

There is some shade over the tree at the moment as I had a piece of shade cloth up to protect it from the summer sun (was concerned about the leaves getting burnt). I intend to remove the shade cloth in a few weeks when the worst of the summer sun has gone.

I was hoping it wouldn't get root bound as it can grow down through the raised garden bed into the ground. Perhaps it needs more horizontal growing room ?

Is there any particular way of feeding them while they are in the juvenile stage ?
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Wayne says...
"Is there any particular way of feeding them while they are in the juvenile stage ?"

Not that I know of Roy, others would be more qualified to help you out there
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Brendan says...
G'day Roy, Try some Seasol, works for me. Follow instructions on back of bottle.
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Roy says...
Just made a phone call to Daly's as I was concerned about the lack of growth and was contemplating moving the tree out into the garden. However they suggest I leave well enough alone for the time being as some trees take some time to establish themselves. I'll leave it in the current spot over winter and hopefully see some improvement next spring.
Thanks to all who commented.
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Rhys says...
Hi Roy,
I was wondering if you'd had any progress in the last year or so? Did you get any growth over spring/summer? I'm looking to grow a secondo in Newcastle so i'm keen to see how other people have gone with theirs.
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Roy says...
Hi Rhys,
Growth has been pretty disappointing, lost virtually all of its leaves towards the end of last winter but it did grow new ones in spring / summer. Some of these leaves are now turning brown at the tips so I’m guessing it may drop them over winter. I’ll give it a bit longer in its current location (raised garden bed) but I’m considering taking the risk of trying to move it to a conventional planting in the ground if there has been no progress in the next few months.
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Brendan says...
Hello Roy,
If it were mine, I'd move it asap to a more open location away from the house.
Add some gypsum to the hole, but no fertilizer.
Check out an old photo of my Edranol avo in Anthracnose Avocado post a while back. Do a search up top right for Anthracnose Avocado, then find the photo of my tree. It's been in 14 months and growing like mad.
I planted it on a mound because we get 'wet seasons' up here, and it's growing in nearly pure clay.
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Roy says...
Hello,
Just thought I'd provide an update on my earlier problems with the Secondo (original post under heading of Avocado growth rate). I did move it to a new location and things seems better now. It hasn't grown much higher but it has spread out and now appears to be getting some flowers (???) - see photo. Is this tree too young to bear fruit ? its been in the new location since late 2010.
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Brendan says...
Hi Roy, yeah could be a bit young to bear, but just leave it.
Looks like it's in the shade? They like full sun hey :-) I'd also mulch it, keeping it away from the trunk.

Photo of my Lamb Hass, note the 'ring' to keep mulch away from the trunk :-)
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Roy says...
Thanks Brendan,
It gets a fair bit of sun where it is.
I like the look of your Lamb Hass, hope mine ends up like that.
I'll take your advice and mulch it - what's the white stuff on your mulch - gypsum ?
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Brendan says...
Yes Roy, that's gypsum! Avocados love it. My soil here is not too good, so the extra gypsum helps the poor soil as well.

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Roy says...
Just thought I'd provide an update one year on from the last post. The tree has grown well in the new location and up until a month ago was looking very healthy and appears to have flowers forming again (they all dropped off last year), however, the leaves are now starting to turn yellow and then brown.
Any ideas on what I could do to bring it back to health would be appreciated.
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Brendan says...
Hi Roy, that yellowing/browning of the leaves is normal. They do that, then they fall off to expose more flowers to bees etc. Nothing to worry about imo.
Up here, we try to spray avos with copper oxychloride (30g / level tablespoon), a good wetting agent in 4½ litres water AFTER the tiny fruit have formed. This is to help/stop the fruit going black and falling off. That's anthracnose.
Once the fruit form to around 5 to 8mm diameter, spray with above, once a week for 3 to 4 weeks, and you should be sick of eating avocados :-)
After that, spray once a month.
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Roy says...
Thanks Brendan, that's useful info. Some of the flowers are just starting to open, hopefully they will form fruit and I'll get a chance to try the copper oxychloride.
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2485 says...
Yellowing is iron deficiency caused by soggy soils,also looks like mulch has become bound ,break it up,do not use straight lawn clippings as it contains ammonia will burn roots,mix with leaves or straw or even pulled up weeds laid around trees.Another thing do not use excessive amounts of gypsum it contains salt.Strong advice if you ever want to improve drainage in soil use washed filling sand/lawn topping sand/potting mix sand similar size granules as beach sand,the finer the better,do not use beach or playpit sand may contain salt.Add it to clay soils to increase drying time of soil.The more sand you mix the quicker ground will dry.A little experimenting will be needed.Ive been growing mango & custard apple.Filled hole 1m square 400mm deep with premium potting mix plus 20 percent sand for every bucket of potting mix that went in hole.Adelaide soils get cold in winter.Where you live ground temp is warmer you will not need to do this but you will have improve your soil drainage with sand.Compacted/soggy soils will create iron deficiency/nutrient uptake issues in plants.Good luck
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Roy says...
Thanks 2485, soil doesn't appear to be very soggy, we haven't had much rain recently but I will keep an eye on it. The much is sugar cane mulch.
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Jason says...
Your Avocado is 1000% perfectly healthy, the old leaves turn yellow and fall with the new growth every year. Exactly the same theory as leaves turning yellow/red in the Autumn as the tree reabsorbs the nutrients. Deficiencies or excess salt in Avocados don't look anything like your Yellow leaves, your's is all good and looks a normal healthy tree imho.

You only need to mulch Avocados when they are young by the way, soon enough those mysterious dropping yellow leaves become self mulching
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Roy says...
Thanks Jason, that's reassuring. Just hope I get some fruit this year (it will be the first time if I do).
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Jason says...
It maybe still a little small to hold fruit but it might hold one or two. When the trunk is around 3 inches thick you can start expecting fruit
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Roy says...
Most of the flowers did drop, but there are a few fruit forming. Do there need to be bagged or the tree netted to protect against predators such as possums, parrots, etc. ?
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Brendan says...
Hi Roy, a lot of my avos are about that size, and I just sprayed them with the garden guru's spray: 30g copper oxychloride (level tablespoon) in 4½ litres water, plus 30ml good wetting agent (like Agral). Spray weekly for the next 3 weeks, then spray monthly.
This spray is to stop 'Anthracnose', a fungal disease that nearly all my avocado & mango trees seem to get each year here in Mackay :-( Anthracnose ususlly gives fruit a black spot, then they fall off.
Don't know where you live, but it wouldn't hurt your tree.
That spray also helps deter possums birds etc.
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vlct says...
Is that true copper oxy deterents possums..
Hmm. Might spray my whole property ..!
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Roy says...
Thanks Brendan, I just completed the first spray with a copper based fungicide. I live in Heathcote, one of Sydney's southern suburbs. Don't know if we have the same Anthracnose problem down here but a bit of prevention cannot hurt.
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Roy says...
Hi All,
Jason was spot on when he advised the tree would only hold a few fruit. Most dropped off but there's about four left that appear to have grown to maturity. How do you know when to pick them ? They are smaller (7 to 8 cm long) than the ones I see in the shops - but perhaps this is the full size for a Secondo variety ?
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Jason says...
Hi Roy, I'm not sure when Secondo is ripe but I can confidently say, Not yet. All Avocados get well.. "Less Shiny" or more dull looking when they are ripe. When exactly that will be I don't know because I don't have a Secondo and you are in NSW too which will speed things up compared to Victoria.

Just looking at it, it seems to be a Guatemalan variety. Doesn't look much different to Hass to be honest. So it's going to be late. Probably your looking at sometime after Winter. Maybe even closer to next Summer. Guatemalan variety's usually need at least a year on the tree once the fruit has set, here it's 18 months +. The tree always has two separate years crops on it.

But congratulations on getting fruit, always exciting :). Only bigger and better years to come now.

P.S. hows it's growth been over the Summer? did you get it to accelerate a bit this year? Maybe those fruit will slow it up a bit so it might like a bit extra fertiliser while it's carrying them
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Julie says...
Roy, a commercial avocado grower told me years ago that you know they are ready to pick when the stalks turn a lighter green.

Then they are ready to eat when the stalk falls off easily. It's annoying to buy an avo that has no stalk, as you can only tell when it's ripe by squeezing it.
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Brendan says...
Also Julie, to help speed up avo ripening, remove the stem :-)
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Roy says...
Thanks for the replies Jason, Julie and Brendan. Looks like I need to be patient for a while yet !
Jason - the growth rate has been pretty reasonable I think - although I don't know what it should be. It seems to have spread out rather than gotten a lot taller. I've got it netted now as I'd hate to lose the few fruit that are left (we have the possums from hell here).
According to Daleys the Secondos are a cross between a Hass and a Sharwill
Is there any particular fertiliser that avocados respond well to ?
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Jason says...
Roy, chicken poo seems to work well with everything. Just dont go crazy at first until you can see how much it wants, how it responds.

Two feet in all directions per year is good growth Id say, one foot acceptable. Anything less than that and its struggling for food.

Some years they might do, 3 or even four feet in a year but thats uncommon for me.
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Jason says...
I expect a healthy hass tree to be nearly 20x20 feet at ten years of age. But not all mine have been that successfull. I have one hass tree which is 6x6 feet at 14 years because its in a,poor dry spot.

However it still fruits an acceptable amount for its size. Possums eat most of mine so netting smaller trees while you can is wise. I plant more trees to get around the problem..
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Roy says...
Thanks Jason,
Info and advice much appreciated.
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Brendan says...
Hi Roy, how high & old is your Secondo avo tree? and, how thick is the trunk?
It looks very small in your pics, (to bear fruit), but I might be wrong?
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Roy says...
Hi Brendan, It's about 110 cm high by 120 wide. The trunk is approx. 4cm diameter before it spreads out in the knot where the roots come from.
I purchased it from Daleys in 2008 but it didn't grow at all until after I moved it to a new location in late 2010 so in that sense it's only been growing for about 3 and a bit years. Almost all of the fruit fell off but there are three left now which are close to the size you see in shops. I'll take Jason's advice and leave them alone until later this year.
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Jason says...
Roy,they should be close enough to fully ripe to pick one in say mid June. Then if that's successfull pick another in July. Of course if they are turning obviously ready before then take another picture and let us know
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Renee1953 says...
I have Avo's here in WA, Maida Vale to be exact. You do need A and B for pollination, some say they are self pollinating but I have my reservations. With Avo's it is a good idea to plant some bee attracting plants close by as bee's aren't that fussy on Avo flowers.
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Karen54 says...
Hi Jason,
since visiting you with my Daughter Robyn some years ago, I have persisted with doing my best to grow avocado trees. So far its two down, currently one looking good and one sad. Would love some help if you were in Portland any time. Cheers Karen
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Jason says...
Karen which varieties failed and which one is doing well?. I will give you a couple from my next batch of grafting. I'm going to do heaps next year. I don't know if I can help much but I can try give you some advice, I'm in Portland at least once a week.
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Karen54 says...
The first to fail last year was a Bacon, bad positioning for a young tree. The Hass was doing really well with a lot of new growth until the rain we have had in the last couple of weeks. In 10 days it has gone from healthy to looking finished. I had also given it some organic fertiliser before it started to turn. (pellets).

If time allows I would be grateful if you were able to visit our home. I would value your advice.

Thank you for your kind offer ofa tree from your next grafted batch.

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Brendan says...
Wow Karen54, are those two pics of the same tree? First, I'd give it a LOT of gypsum, this will displace any salts and toxins in the soil. At least 4 handfuls per sq metre.
It might be too late, but try spraying with yates anti-rot.
I can see sunburn in pic 1, it might need some sulphate of potash as well.
Btw, you can buy liquid claybreaker (gypsum) as well. Good luck!
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yrt says...
Avocadoes need perfect drainage and even then best to spray Anti Rot. If Brendan were alive at the time of the Black Death he would recommend gypsum to sufferers. Go back and you'll see there's nothing gypsum can't cure.
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Brendan says...
Hi yrt, did you get out of the wrong side of the bed today?

From Incitec Pivot:
Gypsum improves soil structure by displacing sodium (and magnesium) on the surface
of clay particles with calcium. Gypsum (calcium sulphate) is sparingly soluble, but
the sodium (and magnesium) sulphates that form in the soil solution are very soluble.

Here's a pic of an avocado of mine, from my seed-grown 36 year old avocado tree :-)
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yrt says...
All true, Brendan ; BUT it must be a sodic clay which fact is not available.
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Pure clay is not that bad for avos so long as your on a slope or can manage good drainage. Mine have done ok.I created nutrient imbalances by spreading around too much gypsum and it took a while to correct it so be careful with gypsum.
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Jason says...
But it's ok. I'll grow you a Reed and we will protect the trunk while it's young and heavily mulch it and maybe get some shade cloth and everything will be fine next time :).
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Jason says...
Well the rain theory might be driving you tropical people to bark up the wrong tree. We've actually only had 20mm of rain in the last weeks and the ground is still cracked/dry. Looking at the background of the pictures it's not only the Avocado that's dead, everything is dead. I think the Autopsy will find this Avocado has serious/terminal sunburn damage to the North side of the main trunk. If that's not the cause then I'm going to predict it's been accidentally poisoned, if that grass got roundup then maybe that's what happened. Avocados roots are above the soil most of the time, you can't do poison. But really it looks like typical burn damage of the main trunk which then (a month or two later on) kills the tree. It's happened to me plenty of times, I actually lost a young Reed tree this Summer in that very way. I'm 1000% sure rain or water or imaginary root root had nothing to do with it (there's no such thing here in a wet cool/ dry hot climate)
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Markmelb says...
I agree with you Jason re Karens plant - definitely signs of drought intolerance - a friend of mine says to treat plants mean to keep them keen over summer - ok if mature and been in ground 15 years but never if in a pot or unless you have unlimited funds to replace them - Karen54 Avos really love lots of water over summer (3 waters a day )and respond well during flushes - thats why I only take Winter Holidays as u can stop watering then by hand as rains will cover it all as long as drainage is good - also paint exposed branches and trunk with 50% watered down acrylic paint too.
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Karen54 says...
Thank you everybody for all your suggestions and diagnosis. Clay soil no, sunburn - probably, Poison also possible as the invasive grass coming under the fence from the empty block behind was recently sprayed. The tree is (was) a Hass. I did the Gypsum today rather than do nothing but it now looks like it needs a burial not a doctor. Never mind, try try again I say!! The fence is west facing providing afternoon protection from the sun so I would be tempted to retry the same spot. I have an alternative spot on the North facing wall, soil heavier and gently slope. ??
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Markmelb says...
Hi Karen -
Must remember Avos are a Rainforest type tree and young trees are therefore understory and grow with protection from the elements - I suggest East Facing protected from 2-6pm hot afternoon sun till they get to 3 metres tall - have a look at these You Tube Videos - I wouldnt tease out roots like he does tho as they fall out naturally anyway -
Spend the next 6 month developing your spot with Gypsum and then RAISE it up like another forum grower in QLD on CLAY soil - have at leats half of rootball above soil level and get a mulch like I use (Amgrow Wettasoil) and wrap it around to at least 1mt diam minimum - enjoy these videos - Mark



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBo7tOQhlmk&list=PL2D0D6E92CF4D1B0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-gIU9vkzRE&list=PL2D0D6E92CF4D1B0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQzwr1PZH6k&list=PL2D0D6E92CF4D1B0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Db61aK58dA&list=PL2D0D6E92CF4D1B0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox18cm-aDI&list=PL2D0D6E92CF4D1B0E
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Jason says...
It only takes a few hours direct sunlight on one of those 42c+ days we have these days to kill a young Avocado. And we had plenty of problem days this year. They get a really deep burn on the north-east side and even if it's only the one side it still kills them unlike direct physical damage which over the same area wouldn't.

It might seem like I have no real problem with it because I have some big Avocado trees but I have lost quite a few small ones over the years. I just keep replacing them until I get a good one up and away during some easy years.

I used to weave long grass/hay in the wires guards on the sunny side and across the top of the guards when the trees were small. That worked excellent. Also the soil temp on a hot day can easily be over 60 degrees still at the depth Avocado trees have feeder roots. Way way too hot for a plant so mulch is very important. They like a heavy mulch (rotted sticks/logs/leaves)


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Jason says...
Mark, I don't know anyone with Shephard. Sunraysia might grow it?
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Karen54 says...
Jason, thats given me some good ideas. When i check again it was the Bacon that is in trouble, very young tree. The Hass which is more protected from direct sun is travelling well & thank you for your offer of a reed, that will be great.

I have an Adranol still potted and I'm not yet game to plant out. I was told they are good for coastal areas.

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Jason says...
No great loss about the Bacon if you have an Edranol ready to go. It should pollinate the Hass (and Reed) just fine. I'll ring up about coming around.
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VF says...
Markmelb, I have Shephard and can send some your way. Don't know how well it'll go though, as it doesn't tolerate frosts and is a heat lover. Mine growing ok as is in front of a large rock wall, but I'm in a commercial avo area and they're not grown here as they don't thrive (Fuerte, Hass, Reed excellent here). I think Bundaberg and north is preferred location. If you're still keen, contact me at vfand3atgmaildotcom .
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Brendan says...
Hi Karen from Portland. I showed the garden guru up here your sick avocado photos, and he has given me some tips for you. If the tree is still alive, please email me at: bitquicker at bigpond dot com
You have nothing to lose :-)
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Roy says...
Just picked the last of my avocados - only got a handful, but they were much appreciated.
Keen to see if the tree retains more fruit this spring/summer.
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Waterfall says...
Hi Roy, I'm just up the road, you can guess where from my user name. I have over 30 different types of fruit trees growing but they are all very young so no fruit yet except peaches, limes and blueberries.

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Roy says...
Hi Joel,
Waterfall is a great spot, hope you can keep the possums at bay.
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Karen54 says...
Hi Jason and Brendon. My update is that the first tree shown in the pictures continued to die quite quickly. Its was replaced by a very healthy eldorado in the same spot. very carefully protected from our winters etc. Now half the tree looks healthy and other branches have obvious wilt and die back. Tempted to remove and place in a pot over summer. Jason do you have any Yates Anitrot, I cant find any in Portland at all. Did you end up doing any graftings this year?
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Karen54 says...
Jason do you want to let me know when you are next in town. I would be interested in you looking at the avocado tree for me please.
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Roy says...
Bit of a disappointment this year after last year's initial success - all flowers dropped and the tree is holding no fruit for 2015.
Don't know why, the tree looks healthy and has grown (see pic).
Strangely, the same thing happened to my apple tree, this is the first season in many years that it dropped all its blossoms as well.
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Markmelb says...
Seems to me Roy your treating your Avo a bit mean (old saying keep it keen - treat it mean) doesnt work for Avos.
Where is some good mulch esp the fallen leaves - leave them there and if you can get rid of those rocks an build mulch up to around half metre beyond - your Avo will respond as they are surface feeders - time to let it get some legs(roots) to feed and grow :) ps - my Lamb Hass almost 2 years old in 100lt grow bag 2mt tall - 10 Avos so big your eyes would pop
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Roy says...
OK Thanks Mark - I'll give that a try. Probably too late for this year but the Avo is hopefully a long term proposition.
Your Lamb Hass sounds great, didn't realise you could keep them in a grow bag.
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Markmelb says...
Im not the only grower on this Forum using grow bags - others mention Bonsai bags but assume theyr not to keep small - maybe only 45lt?? They grow supa fast in the 100 lt bags -- I have a Lamb Hass in ground I have put up pics on my edibles if you take a look same age as in bags but didnt flower last year but has a possible set of 20+ that look set and enlarging - keep in mind Heathcote gets pretty hot so shade isnt an issue for that afternoon heat and setting sun blast - mine only get sun on top in winter in their alcove. #### NOTE Also search Videos from Growquest for alot of great info about mulch and gypsum - Avos love it and a bit of occasional zinc trace
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Waterfall says...
Here is a photo of my Wurtz, it was purchased in Feb this year from bunnings.

Honestly I can't believe how much it has grown since the start of spring because it was like it was frozen in time before then. Now its thrown out new branches everywhere and is at least 40cm taller.
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Markmelb says...
yep - they are all growing like that now - my Wurtz is only 2yr old and 2mt plus high -- Tip - as branches get longer tie them downwards to halt their spreading habit and more wind resistant
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Waterfall says...
I'm not sure I'm following you on that, wouldn't tieing the branches down spread the tree out more making it less narrow?
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Markmelb says...
Avo branches mainly want to grow horizontal - pulling down towards ground reduces physical width - been doing for over a year with great results and saving space - advanced trees with lots of fruit weight on them do that naturally - in a home garden space is premium so do b4 they get too big - better than chopping branches
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Grant says...
Hey Markmelb i would love to see a photo. I have 2 avo trees (lamb hass and secondo) with no where near enough roomfor full grown trees. I will need to do something over the next few years
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Hi Grant -
This is video that gave me the ideas - instead of using weights i use soft slight stretchy tie string and find it works better as weifgts could do more damage in strong winds
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Grant says...
Thanks Mark i will try adapting his ideas myself. My little Lamb Hass was covered in fruit soon after planting, I have picked all bar 4 off, hopefully i will get a taste of the future this season.
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Hi Jason hoping you can visit soon.
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Roy says...
Hi All,

Another year has gone by and my Avocado looks ready to fruit - hope it won't be a repeat of last year when all the flowers dropped.

I have fertilised and mulched and the tree looks healthy - but then again it did last year as well.

Here hoping :)
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Waterfall says...
Good luck Roy!

Here is an updated photo of mine, if you scroll up a few posts you can see how much it has grown since November last year, super fast grower!

Its covered in flowers right now too.

I planted a Pinkerton to keep it company yesterday.
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