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amanda starts with ...
Hubby has been hunting and gathering and come home with Bunya nuts...I think I am now expected to grow them....
I don't trust his botanical instincts.. (he still can't tell the difference between basil and parsely) - is this what they look like? How do u germinate them - they are like little rocks. Do they need to be scarified?

Please (please!) tell me it's all too hard and then they can lurk in the bottom of my handbag with all the other seeds I still haven't had time to plant.. :)

(PS - how old b4 the tree "fruits"? I am 43 now - will I get to try them b4 I die?)
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
They kind of look more like potatoes to me, and bunya nuts are really only around in Feb/March, they tend to rot fairly quickly if left on the ground. If you do find the real thing, they do, in fact, intially grow into a little tuber from the seed (looks a lot like an oca tuber) in their first year, then in the second year they send up the little conifer shoot above ground. No other special treatment but you have to be patient.
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amanda says...
Aww Phil..they are not spuds - I am not that dumb, thanks!? I didn't think to ask his source...he's a fly in fly out worker and no doubt it's from an interesting source - he did bring home genuine tobacco seed last time (but I won't be growing that particular one)

Is your pic Bunya nut? Like I said - these things are as hard as rocks - and about 2cm long.

(next time he works in PNG - I will be ready! didn't even think of the possibilties then - bugger!)
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Jason says...
haha I don't know what they are if they aren't potatoes then you have me beat. But for sure they aren't Bunya seed. Bunyas take foreverrrrr to germinate, well.... don't take long to germinate but take loooooong to do there old time germination thing where they grow a root then a bulb then some other fancy stuff for a year then finally grow when you are about to empty the pot :p. I swear the first time I grew them I did empty the pot then I thought...... what in the.... is that??? and why do I have it? in this pot and why is there five of them?! lol. but one of them was sending up a tiny tiny little Bunya trunk and I figured it out, then re-potted them.

As for being too old to grow a bunya, they are a beautiful tree right from the age of 1 day old :) so it doesn't matter. I have one about 10 years old and 8? feet tall and it's probably the best looking tree I have already so I can't care less about the fruit. I've actually never been mean enough to eat a seed of such a tree when I could be growing them (that's what I've done with all of them every time I've had them :) ). They live for hundreds and hundreds of years too, so that's one you plant for someone else. Finding a home for the monsters is the hard part, I think I forgot to tell Jantina she's getting one :P but she is
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trikus says...
Cycad seeds most likely , just half press into a pot of sandy media and they will sprout soon. Macrozamia most likely a few endemic to WA , very impressive slow growing plants.

Mate with 20 acres in sub-tropics has a large planting of Bunyas from locally collected seeds . He formed a large circle maybe 10m dia. and planted the seedlings around the edge .
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amanda says...
Probably on the money trikus: husband reports "they came from the middle of a female buyna palm on the side of the road" ...bless him.
He has tried microwaving them to eat them..eek. Advised maybe not a good idea!?
Nice philosophy guys - if I come across the real deal I will be sure to push under the soil :)
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John says...
Yes they look like zamia palm seeds and they are poisons unless they have been properly leached. The Bunya pines are very large trees and take a long time before they start to fruit and they are native I think up Queensland way. I have seen a couple growing in parks in Perth in parks but the rangers always cut down the cones before they get to big and cause damage when they fall.
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John Mc says...
Yep, I'll back John up on that one. The seeds are contained in huge cones that can dent a car's duco if it happened to be under the tree when it(the cone) falls. They usually fall Feb,/March around here. Very popular bush tucker, must be cooked well.
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amanda says...
Yup - hubby will take a pic of plant - he said these guys came from a huge "cone" (like a pine cone) - but off a "shrub" not a huge tree, down at the Worsely refinery (near Collie).

Luckily he didn't eat them. John - I think I have seen Bunya trees near Beattie Park swimming pool.

I hope I get to try a Bunya nut one day tho'.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
The confusion may be because some species are known as "Burrawang", although that particular name really only applies to Macrozamia communis from coastal NSW. The three WA species it may be are M. dyeri, M. fraseri or M. riedlei. Great specimen plants, they'll look great in a few years' time.
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John says...
I have not seen those ones, but there are some in the city in a park near the fore shore. I have never tasted them either but would like too. I have seen Tass 1 have them forsale before but have not been there for a while.
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Sandra says...
Hi Jason, I read on your forum that you have planted and grown Bunya Nut Pines from seed. I have about 10 seeds from my fathers tree in Kingaroy QLD. My father loved this tree and after he passed 2 years ago I decided to get the seeds from his tree and grow one for myself. I have them in a bag and now the weather is starting to warm up I thought it would be a great time to plant them. I understand they take about 1 year to germinate but that's about all I know. Can you please tell me all you know about getting this cherished little seeds up and growing? We live in Redhead, Newcastle so I believe they would be fine here. Can you advise on soil, size of pot, sun exposure, watering etc? Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Jason says...
Hi Sandra, I didn't do anything special to mine. But they need to be planted almost straight away or else they will dry out. I guess you must have collected them last Autumn? I think unless they were in a bag of damp peat moss or something like that they wouldn't be viable anymore. But if they still feel solid and hard then maybe they will be ok. Anyway to grow them you don't need anything special, you just need to put them in a pot outside water it once in a while if it's not raining and wait a year or so.

They do germinate straight away but they spend the year underground growing a tuber separate to the seed, then sprout from that, kinda a weird way to grow but they are a very ancient tree so that must be just how it was back then 150 million or so (however old they are) years ago.

If it turns out the seed are no good, I guess you can get more if you have any other relatives up there next year or maybe someone could collect them for you and post them
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giveaway bunya nuts says...
I have 25 cones which have fallen in the last week if anyone's interested. Email me. You can have them for free.
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al says...
hi bunya nut giveaway, my email address is allanbennett_962@hotmail.com. I'd love to grab a couple so I could try germinate a few.
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Peter O says...
I have been growing Bunyas for about 15 years when I can get seed.
I put a good 150mm of concrete sand in a polystyrene box, place the seeds on them at about 100 - 150 mm centres, cover them with about 25mm sand. before watering put them in a warm place ( underneith a bench in a shade house is good but off the ground or the worms will get in)
Water and forget them.
Keep moist and after 4 - 10 months they will send up a single straight shoot like something out of science fiction.
The root will already be well established and as soon as the shoot starts to open transplant them
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Peter O says...
Amanda, those nuts are not Bunya, they are either bean balls off the black bean( very poisonous) or more likely cycad seeds.
To grow them treat them the same as bunya seeds The main thing is don't be in a hurry.
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Jim says...
how many years before the tree fruits (or nuts)
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Peter O says...
Jim, We have a Bunya in our yard which is 15 years old and it hasn't fruited yet. This may be because it is in very poor soil. In good soil and water about 10 years.
When planting them don't put them near a thoroughfare because the cones weigh up to 5 kg each and fall with no warning.
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BJ says...
yep, around 10 years is a good indication of the time to get fruit. We have a tree at the farm which is estimated at 30 years which produces around 5 stacked wheelbarrow loads in the 'off' years, and many more during the quadrennial bumber crop. I love them in stir fry dishes and the like.

Yes, dont plant near a drive way. You'll never worry about hail damage again! And dont plant delicate things under or within 5m of them, as we found out in the case of the exploding frangipanni.
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CathieD says...
Hi, I have managed to get about 5 Bunya nuts and they are just starting to open how soon can I plant the seed pods do they still have to be green or do I wait till they brown off?
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BJ says...
Plant whenever you like. Just try to put somewhere that rats cant get at them. They take a long time to emerge from the ground as they put their energy into growing a tuber, then shoot out up to a year after planting. I throw bad nuts into the yard and usually have a few score wee plants shooting 16 months later.
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sternus1 says...
I urge caution with planting bunya nut--think about what or who might happen to be walking underneath it. Even though it won't present a risk for a long time, a falling bunya nut from a large tree will kill a person or animal very easily.

On the property where my mother used to put a horse in agistment, someone's horse was killed instantly when it was conked on the head by a falling unripe bunya nut.

Plant it somewhere it isn't likely to encounter human or animal traffic or where such won't be tempted to rest in shade under it.

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Jason says...
On the other hand you are much more likely to be killed by a random falling mana gum branch. At least with bunyas you can eat the offender and you know roughy when its going to fall.

I don't walk under trees that drop branches so I can do the same with bunyas.
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Mike Tr says...
Coconut and durian fruit falling are known to cause property damage and injury.
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sternus1 says...
The difference being Jason that you are able to identify a bunya nut tree and assess the risk whereas a lot (probably most) couldn't. A cracking branch will make a lot more sound at the moment of breaking and on the way down than a falling bunya nut.

I don't rate them highly as a food, but then again I've only ever had them roasted in coals without any condiments or anything accompanying them.

Are you still after an opuntia? I scored a burbank's a few weeks back and it has started to grow a new paddle, can post when it is ready.

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BJ says...
I love bunya. There were piles waist deep at the gardens the other day. Gotta get more. They are awesome done like pesto, used like pine nuts or even water chestnuts in stir fries. Even pasted and mixed with honey and lemon myrtle. The little sliver in the centre of the nut is perhaps my favorite thing that can be derived from a tree crop!
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sternus1 says...
See BJ I'm too gastronomically inept and barbarous to make anything even remotely that sophisticated from them. I tried to make vegan Jelly ( with agar) for my GF recently, and you could have used the result to re-sole a high end sports shoe. Bloody woeful.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q66NuZrB2E
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Payo says...
Sternus1 A Bunya tree has a quite distinctive shape with a rounded dome. In spring the new growth is a light green and in the early morning sun seems to light up like a Xmas tree.( slight exaggeration there, but quite beautiful.}
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sternus1 says...
Yeah I can spot one well enough, but the average punter who has no interest in trees probably wouldn't be able to.
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BJ says...
Hoeing into some fresh boiled bunya with a bit of honey. Mmmmm, yum! Can't believe these are so easily obtainable all over town. I pick up 4 cones every other day from a tree on the fringe of a military estate on my way to town.
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sternus1 says...
would that tree be in Mitchelton?
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BJ says...
Yeah, across from gaythorn station.
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Jason says...
I was wondering what size do Bunya's start producing?. I only ask because my largest tree is growing fairly quickly these days
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MaryT says...
Jason from what I read the bunya bunya can produce in two to seven years.
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BJ says...
They are said to be fairly consistent in producing female cones from about 14 years near Toowoomba. Its probably a bit quicker on the coast here and probably a bit longer down south.
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Would like some seeds please says...
I have been reading what BJ has to say and i was hopeful that he could supply me with some seeds. If i could get a hold of some seedlings that would be even better.Tim Meakes ph0428225145
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brad16 says...
Daleys has just listed 20 Bunyas in 50 mm forestry tubes for $4.90 each.
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