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Steven starts with ... When i was in italy a couple of years ago everywhere i went they made these beautiful pasta sauces with about a hand full of these cherry tomatos. They were nothing like the cherry tomato's in Australia they were sweet and bursting with flavour and since then i have been trying to figure out what variety they were. I think i have found the variety its called ciliegino pachino (which basically means cherry pachino from the town pachino in sicily) Has anyone heard of this variety and know where i can get some seeds/plants because i would love to grow it!! Thanks Alot Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 1st September 2010 12:07am #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brendan says... Hi Steven, Best tasting cherry tomatoes IMHO are: Camp Joy, Tommy Toe & Sweetie :-) These are available from: www.edenseeds.com.au | About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 1st September 2010 7:22am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... I tried tommy toe last year hoping it would work. it was a nice vareity and made alot of fruit but it still wasnt the same, they were too juicy and acidic and their skins were too hard for eating in a sauce. They probably are the next best thing but i wish i could get my hands on the variety they have. Ill have a look at the other varieties thanks Brendan They might be, but they are probably heat treated before they are shipped. But its worth a shot! Thanks alot Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 1st September 2010 3:41pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Here's a link to The Italian gardner, an online shop: http://www.theitaliangardener.com.au/categories/Tomatoes/ | About the Author John Mc 1st September 2010 3:50pm #UserID: 3496 Posts: 132 View All John Mc's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Thanks ill check it out. Cherry tomatoes make different types of sauces than what you would make with a roma tomato. The sauces im talking about is an oil based sauce with cherry tomatos cut in half and cooked only for a few minutes before serving. They were absolutely beautiful in italy however i cant seem to right the right variety here in Australia. for a normal sauce fresh San Marzano tomatos are beautiful. Dip them in boiling water for about 10seconds then peel and dice them. Then fry a little garlic and onion, add the tomatoes and simmer for about 10mins. Once its finished stir through a generous amount of fresh oregano and basil! | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 4th September 2010 2:21pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... Perhaps this is the one you are chasing Steven. Just kidding This size tomato suits both my sons, one slice one sandwich I found them at this place http://www.kingsseeds.co.nz:80/shop/Vegetables/Vegetable+Groups/Tomatoes/Organic+Tomatoes/Tomato+Purple+Calabash5384.html
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John Mc says... They are also the only people, as far as I can find, that stock the rapid red watermelon. http://www.kingsseeds.co.nz/shop/Vegetables/Alpha+Search+for+Vegetables/Veges+T+to+Z/Watermelon+Rapid+Red+F18707.html?id=sprPbR76&mv_pc=s My ol man swears by them. Very quick growing. Can't find them anywhere, and it's getting late. | About the Author John Mc 4th September 2010 9:02pm #UserID: 3496 Posts: 132 View All John Mc's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hi Peter thanks for your help. Alot of my relatives grow that variety of tomato. I bought some seeds of costaluto genovese from diggers,com.au to try this year. But the variety i really want is the cherry tomato variety they use for a'olio sauces. to be honest i dont think im going to find it in Australia :( | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 5th September 2010 1:34pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... The reply about buying seeds from them Hi Wayne Yes we do – please just follow the procedure attached. Kind regards Barbara Martin Kings Seeds (NZ) Ltd PO Box 283 Katikati 3166 Phone (07) 549 3409 Fax (07) 549 3408 www.kingsseeds.co.nz email info@kingsseeds.co.nz | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 5th September 2010 6:24pm #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Steven - how u grow the tomatoes is a big factor in their sweetness and tender skins. Wait until the seedling is flowering b4 u plant it out. As Pete Cundall says - a tomatoe never goes to fat once it's flowering - and it's very true. To get a sweet tom with tender skin - u need to feed and water it on a very regular basis (and choose a decent variety of course) Compost, manure etc will give u the sweetness and water will give u the tender skin. It must also be well and truly vine ripened...it's almost a sin in Italy to pick an under ripe tomatoe. Keep all of the foliage on the plant. I know exactly the pasta dish u mean - my 6yr old loves it! Try a grape cherry tomatoe - you will be pleased with the results I think ;-) I have one of these that has "gone bush" - it's amazing - like a tomatoe sultana...whole family fights over them :))) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 6th September 2010 12:34am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brendan says... For Purple Calabash seeds, go to this Australian site: http://www.edenseeds.com.au/content/default.asp | About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 6th September 2010 7:31am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... The link was just for John Mc, Brendan, as they have the watermelon seeds he wants and Amanda just wanted to know if she could import seeds from her Dad. I see on Eden seeds that they say the fruit grows to 50mm whereas the Kiwi version shows they are plate size so I wonder if they are the same fruit or perhaps the Kiwis can grow them better. | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 6th September 2010 9:12am #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... I won't be getting anymore seeds this year I'm afraid Jantina, however, I could give a list of what I have if you send me an email Brendan has given me some heirloom seedlings and he also gave me seeds for this tomato that I was most impressed with http://www.edenseeds.com.au/content/default.asp TOMATO - BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAIN Send me an email and you are most welcome to any seeds I have Regards Wayne | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 6th September 2010 9:28am #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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peter says... hi jantina the kiwi version also describes it as a relitively small tomatoe to 200 grams. at first glance i think we are assuming that the thing in the bottom left hand corner is a hand but i think it may be another tomato. if you are looking for a large tomato the delicious variety holds the world record at 3.5 kg. | About the Author adelaide 6th September 2010 9:32am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Thanks alot for the info Amanda ill definately try that out. I usually feed them alot but sometimes i get lazy a forget. ill try what you mentioned and see how it goes. Ive already planted tommy toe varieties in punnets at the moment and i think im going to buy sweet grape from the nursery. There is also a variety called sweet bite (i think) that seems interesting so i might try that one too. Ive almost finished building my greenhouse and im going to plant some in and some out of it. hopefully the added warmth increases the flavour of the tomatoes. One problem i have with letting the fruit completely ripen on the vine is that the cherry tomatoes start splitting and spoil. Does anyone have any advice on how to avoid this? Thanks Alot Steven P.S. Amanda when you say keep all the foliage on the plant i presume you mean dont prune or train the vine at all? | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 6th September 2010 7:22pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brendan says... Hi Jantina, Yep, as Wayne says, if you want to grow huge tomatoes, try Blue Ridge Mountain (again, from Eden Seeds). (The one in the photo is a baby, btw, I never grew it) They are a potato-leaf type tomato. Not only do they grow to 150mm diameter (6"), they have a VERY nice flavour. Plus, the seeds grow true to form :-)
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peter says... hi jantina, that variety is fairly hard to find here can check ebay and seed savers sites. originally from usa, dont think allowed to import from there. got mine from a guy at the rare fruit society meetings who smuggled them into the country about 30 years ago. if you dont have any luck finding them and you still come to adelaide sometime i could take some cuttings of mine for you. | About the Author adelaide 7th September 2010 9:18am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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peter says... jantina, i havnt tasted them yet but they are supposed to be delicious. wayne, i did plant all my seeds back in march but have fruit growing now so could send some when ready. have eight other varieties also. one thing ive been wondering though. if there is more than one variety growing in the same area and say a mortgage lifter was to pollinate a delicious variety and the seed was planted would you still get a proper delicious tomato from that seed. | About the Author adelaide 8th September 2010 8:57am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi peter, tomatoes are self fertile so if you cover the flower trusses until the tiny tomatoes form you should be right. Maybe a fine mesh of some sort. www.greenharvest.com.au sell a breathable bag that would cover the whole truss until maturity. Look under their Pest Exclusion section. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 8th September 2010 7:20pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Ok, so these are the varieties i am going to try this season. Sweet bite Tomato berry Tommy toe (also tried last year) Principe Borghese Does anyone know how well these cherry tomato varieties are in cooking. I also growing San Marzano and Costoluto Genovese which are beautiful in cooking. Regards Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 9th September 2010 12:56pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... http://www.sharedacres.com/2010%20Seeds/tomatoes.htm I quite like lemon drop and ida gold, which don't seem to be on too many people's favourites list. Neither are for what you're looking for, but they are definitely worth growing. That said I haven't tried many of the others (yet) | About the Author Brad2 Como, Perth 9th September 2010 4:46pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... Interesting varieties in your link Brad, boy, haven't we got some to choose from all up, is that an AU site? I see Cherokee Purple there, I grew them this year. Excellent tasting tomato but boy, the grubs sure liked them so it was a battle, but worth it. I'm going to wait a few weeks to see what this crop produces before I list what seeds I have. Sorry about that guys but I don't have much to offer at the moment. Some of my seeds are what I keep from my own fruit each year so they tend to vary a tad. | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 9th September 2010 5:58pm #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Steven - the principe borghese should be good for cooking. It's pretty tasty too. I have just planted one this year also. I cook with any tomatoes - as long as they have lots of flavour! The fruit splitting happens with inconsistent watering - usually too little followed by way too much (heavy rain also) A good layer of mulch (right up to the stem) will help to stop fluctuations in moisture. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 9th September 2010 8:49pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lorna says... I was sold the Principe Borghese as a drying tomato and found it dismal. I don't know if it was a different seed source to what you had Amanda, but the ones that a friend and I grew in two seperate gardens were flavourless and small. I grow about 20 varieties of tomatoes, and end up bottling around 160 jars a year. | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 9th September 2010 11:58pm #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Gee - I don't know guys! Geraldton and Carnarvon grow some of the best tasting commercial (!!) tom's in WA (IMO) so maybe it's our climate - so I can't say I have had many varieties that dissapoint me here. I am growing now: Jaune Flamme, Tommy Toe, Green Zebra, Tigerella, Black Krim, Cherry Grape, Roma cherry, Tomatoberry, Broad ripple yellow currant, San Marzano and the Borghese (which was good last yr). I have not found a Roma tom yet that I like - still searching. We dried large cherry toms once - wow! I make soup, pasta sauce base, tomatoe sauce, dried tom's. I choose the tom based only their flavour. The good one's also have certain "look" about them...they are always a tom that I would eat out of hand. I am very fussy about my tom's - but there is an art to growing them well also, I feel, not just the variety. EG: when my tommy toes got too much rain a cupla weeks back - they lost alot of their flavour. I give mine a lot of compost and manure. I start the patch off with potash and gypsum also (= calcium to help against blossom end rot and not raise the pH as tom's prefer acidic soil) I don't give them hard core fert's and try to keep the soil moist always - not wet and not dry. You want to concentrate the flavour. Mulch is a must IMO. The best tom's I have growing now are the one's growing from seed I collected from last year - they always adapt much faster than seed/plants sourced elsewhere and it seems to improve their flavour even more. So far, all of the heirlooms have come true to type. Interesting what Wayne said about the Purple one getting bugs...only my dark types get bugs too...and the others grow in the same patch! The bugs never touch the yellow tom's. Steven- I just meant don't prune the foliage (u may still need to train) - a sunburnt tom is yukk. It's temperature - not sunlight that ripens them. Wayne - have a google of "Homemade sun dried tomatoes" - u will find many ways of drying them! delicious! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 10th September 2010 9:39am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lorna says... Agreed with regards to the taste thing. I have some tomatoes that stand drought really well, and the flavour is extremely good, but the same tomatoes put into the garden and watered well, don't taste half as good. It's like the taste gets diluted. Have you tried the broad ripple yellow currant tomato? It has a root system like the weed Solanum Nigricans or black nightshade-they run for metres. Mine grow on four inches of soil over rock, never get watered, and produce bucketloads of tomatoes. I pick 2 litres of them every day for my chooks, who love them. My partner also puts them in his lunch every day. | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 10th September 2010 9:56am #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I am always searching for tomatoes with the very pointy bottom. My grandad used to grow them (many years ago now) The only roma I have really enjoyed also had this point..and so does "tomatoberry" - an odd coincidence!? yea Lorna the yellow currants are good hey. My 6yr old loves em. Those new tomatoe-berry plants are gorgeous also (well - they are here) - shame they are a hybrid. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 10th September 2010 12:13pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Agree Julie - but they are tinned with juice etc...I am not sure - I can grow great tomatoes to be honest - but never good romas - even in the perfect climate. They are bred for their flesh ratio - for paste etc...I am not partial to that thick flesh thing. I have never found those tom's to have a good taste ratio for flesh. The really tasty bit is the "jelly" around the seed IMO. The more the better. I am mad keen on the green Zebras though - they pack a punch on the taste scale! Divine - truly. Lots of jelly - tiny seeds - sweet and tender. Also - I like tom's with a sub-acidic punch - many folk don't like that..(too used to sugar maybe?) All good recipes with tom's require a little sugar source though - to counteract the acidity. Go for flavour every time - you can cook any type of tom - I have for many years. Who ever said a Roma was the best cooking tom anyway, for eg? It's not true. We dried large cherry tom's and they were sensational. Like a tomatoe bomb going off in your mouth. And yet they are recommended for out of hand eating and salads...? Bend the rules guys!? Find a tomatoe that u love - keep your seed and keep growing it. It's very simple with tom's - people make them far harder than they really need to be...? :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 10th September 2010 10:46pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... Amanda, some of my Roma tomatoes have pointed ends as well as my yellow ones. Here's a pic I took of my Roma and a round both with Boron [Borax] deficiency. Is the pointed Roma the one you are looking for? I can check and see if all that fruit is the same on that bush, if so, it would not be a hassle to send you some seeds.
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Lorna says... I was told that the original canning tomato was actually the San Marzano, not the Roma. Anyone shed any light on that one. Here, I find that the San Marzano is very prone to the blossom end rot compared to the other varieties that it grows right next to. I know that that is calcium deficiency caused by dry conditions, but it gets afflicted where other varieties don't. I gave up growing it here for that reason. | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 14th September 2010 2:51pm #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Wayne!! yes please to seed from that pointy end roma (and any other pointy bottoms u have)!? I had the pointy romas a few times from an organic supplier in the past - and I have kicked myself for not saving the seed....I would love to try them. (sunley at wn.com.au) would be great to hear from u. Funny you mention the boron deficiency wayne..I actually realised that my big boron problem in my orchard last year was due to my seaweed "brew" that I put out without pH testing first...I now know it was shockingly alkaline which is bad for boron uptake....oops. I can post some pics of what it did to the tomatoe leaves if u are interested - it was quite distinctive. Lorna - blossom end rot is not always a calcium deficiciency as such - it's more often caused by fluctuations in soil moisture (see my post above) I am no expert in growing anything - but I have been growing tom's since I was a kid (maybe I was italian in my last life..!?) and I adore them. Bear in mind also that the growing conditions and the soil (in particular) in Italy are quite different than than what we have in Aust. San Marzano is a roma tom. Is it new seed/plants u are growing or saved seed? To be honest - I am not quite sure what all the fuss is about with Italian tomatoes - sure - they grow them well..but they COOK them even better..??? I don't think (IMHO) they have anything over any other good variety that we have access to - and our warmth factor in Aust can make them even more special. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 14th September 2010 9:34pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Actually lorna - now that you mention it - my "window box romas" had lots of problems with blossom end rot last year too....! One thing I did learn about the boron problem I had is that boron and calcium uptake are also linked (boron facilitates the uptake/movement of calcium, or such) - maybe it might be worth trying a pinch of borax next time - just as an experiment? But yea - you are right - some varieties do seem to be more sensitive to different conditions like that. I have had a lot of problems with the black russians and black krims for some reason...I put it down to the type also? or - they just don't like it here :( have u tried the green zebra lorna? I am dying to make soup with mine (it will be green tomatoe soup tho' he he) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 15th September 2010 9:59am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jodie says... Hi All, There is a goog website called 'The Italian Gardener' that you can buy tomato seeds from. They seem to have a selection of Roma tomatoes. Diggers Club also has heaps of choice. My hubby and I have both planted a Brandywine this year and are going to have a competition to see who's tomatoes are the best. Am looking forward it!. | About the Author Jodie Perth WA 15th September 2010 4:56pm #UserID: 2578 Posts: 28 View All Jodie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lorna says... Yes have tried the Green Zebra Amanda, and found everything about them good except the usual public reaction about how you can't eat green tomatoes! Also the San Marzano grow right next to the Roma on an unwatered part of garden next to the dam, and the Roma don't get blosson end rot, and the San marzano do. No watering involved to make a difference between the two, and fertilizer identical. I have rechallenged the theory a few years in a row until I gave up with the San Marzano. That's what happens here. | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 15th September 2010 11:38pm #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Lorna - that's weird hey. I have the San Marzano's growing here now and they fine (but - it has been winter and not hot and dry...) Ah the vagaries of growing!? I would love to know why these things are so - it's curious! I tried my first S.Marzano yesterday though Lorna - and it was bloody awful! Really pithy and tasteless.. :-( Like you I am growing other varieties in the same patch - which are delicious. I am a bit sad as I grew 15 of them up from seed to make our tomatoe sauce run...what a waste of time and energy. You live n learn hey. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 16th September 2010 9:19am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hey everyone. Lorna have you tried using tomato dust or some fungicide on the tomatos. It could be that there is a variety of fungi in your garden that the S.Marzanos are more sensitive to. Im guessing as your near perth that you would have at least close to a Mediterranean climate where you live so the climate should suit them perfectly. Its strange that you didnt like the Amanda. They are awful tomatos to eat raw but are beautiful in sauces i grew some last year and i loved them! | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 16th September 2010 10:34am #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lorna says... Hi Stephen, one of the reasons for growing my own tomatoes is so that they have no sprays on them, so no I don't use dust or fungicide of any sort. I would prefer to grow the varieties that don't need it. We are over 400km from Perth which makes a BIG difference in the climate. In Summer there can be an average of 10 degrees difference in the daily temperature, and since we get the cool sea breeze at around 4pm that Perth does not, we are really worlds apart on climate. Amanda says she is picking tomatoes now, well down here, unless you had a greenhouse, that would not be possible. The frost here kills the outdoor tomatoes. | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 16th September 2010 11:51am #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Agree with u there Lorna - if I have to spray any of my veggies I won't grow them....may as well just buy them from the shops :( Tomatoes grow all year round in Gero Steven (we 400km's North, Lorna 400kms South, of Perth)- but this winter has been really cold so even the the local growers one's have not been as tasty as normal. Having said that, my green zebras and Tommy Toes have performed really well right thru this winter - so I will be saving their seed based on this characteristic and their flavour, pest resistance etc. Definitely "keepers" - (but I will be interested to see how they go when we move south) I will give cooking the S.M's a test run tho' - I'll post my verdict when it's in.. :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 16th September 2010 12:56pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... lol my tomato seeds are just stating to come up now! i am keeping them mainly indoors at the moment though because its still quite cool outside. i know what you mean i dont like using harsh chemicals either. Although sometimes things get sick even if they are resistant. You can make a simple organic fungicide from bicarb and a drop of dishwashing liquid in water. You should be able to google it if your interested but i can find the recipe if you want. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 17th September 2010 2:01pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lorna says... I have a tray of Roma VF tomato coming up too. I have plenty of seed with saving my own, so start planting in an unheated cloch early to see how they go. It gives me a guage of how suitable the time is to plant. These took 14 days to germinate, which is about ten days longer than I would expect if the conditions were right. We are getting cold nights and this is reflected in that germination, with the compost getting cold at night and not warming up until mid morning. I like to be picking tomatoes by Christmas, which is usually possible, so an early start is esential. | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 18th September 2010 9:37am #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... The dish washing liquid is the wetting agent Steven, have you used this spray before? I have killed plants using dish washing liquid as the wetting agent until I learnt better. You can use an unscented liquid soap as a wetting agent, I get it occasionally as it works much better as a dish washing detergent than the real thing does, it doesn't leave any residue at all and the plates feel squeaky clean. What we have in the ground is it for the year for us Lorna, it's time for you blokes down there to feed us up here. Pushing 35C here today so it's time to go sunbaking on the beach | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 18th September 2010 2:51pm #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hi Wayne how are you. Yeah ive used it before and it works well. Its not a really strong fungicide but it does the job. You only add a drop of dishwashing liquid into about a litre of water and of course make sure the one you use isnt caustic. Regards Steven P.S. I thought you guys had plenty of food us there!?!? :) | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 20th September 2010 10:57am #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... They grow "chickpeas, sorghum seed, melons, pumpkins, mangoes, bananas, citrus, irrigated pasture, tropical forests and sugar cane. Sugar production accounts for approximately on third, by area, of the cultivated land in the ORIA [Ord River Irrigation Scheme]." so not much in every day food. I overdosed with detergent Steven, that's why I'm wary off it. Serious rain up here now [300mm overnight here in Mackay] which will close down our farming for the year most likely. We won't start producing again until next May | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 20th September 2010 12:06pm #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Ahh ok fair enough Wayne. Gosh thats alot of rain in one day. Its almost half of the rain we get here in a year!! So what will you do until may if you cant do any work on your farm? Spring here hasnt came yet. For the past month its pretty much been nothing but overcast rain, drizzle, spitting and a little sun just to tease you! | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 21st September 2010 12:20pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... What's this 80% business Wayne?? U guys should feed us feed us over here acutally! :))) ...we are producing 80% of Aust $ exports...what goes around - comes around... and, in fact, 90% of the fruit n veg in my green grocer is WA produce (and the rest is NZ, China and garlic - from everywhere!??) The only Qld stuff we have here is those awful bananas!? You know what? I have no dramas with us all being Aussies - but I am really tired of the eastern states being so ignorant of WA (and no - I was not born here) Some folk seem to forget that this State spans the entire length of Aust - from north to south. We actually don't need u guys. So there :) Crap - how do type a raspberry thingo?? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 22nd September 2010 12:41am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... W.A is exporting 80% of our soil :) (we don't like that over in the East). But you should know most Victorians don't like anyone or anything not even Victoria itself so I wouldn't get too offended ;). When you live in a state that's either frozen or on fire and has a terrible messy crappy crime ridden place for a capital city that refuses to give any money to any other town in the state you get pretty cynical :p | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 22nd September 2010 5:54am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... That should have read "needs in tomatoes" Read the link Amanda http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/tomato-prices-to-triple-after-mystery-poisoning/story-e6freoof-1225907040616 We don't use much WA stuff nor you ours Amanda, the frieght is the killer. You're right about those Bananas I used to look forward to those good Victorian potatoes when making chips for our business Jason --- and Black Jacks tomatoes, better than the Bowen ones | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 22nd September 2010 6:39am #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... EY! I like Victoria! Granted our government is useless and tries to fine us for everything even farting on the street but the federal government is the same anyway. and the crime in the city is SOOO over exaggerated by the media, ive been there many times at night for probably the last ten years and i barely see any violence. and if it werent for our coldish winters we woulnt have the most beautiful Autumns and Springs! :) | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 22nd September 2010 12:11pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lorna says... Thanks Amanda, It is funny because I have only had the occasional Roma with it, but most of the San Marzano get it. I think it all goes down to the fact that there is a lot more going on in the soil than we know about, and it is not all cut and dry like we try to make out. There will be connections with all sorts of things that we have not even thought about and will probably never know about, like interactions with microbes, fungi, bacteria etc as well as multiple trace element issues and micro climates. So it all goes down to find out what works for you at your place, read lots, talk lots, gain relevant information from places like this, then do what works for you in your area. Shame it takes so long to get all that bit worked out Eh? Then you go and shift house and have to start again!!!!!!! | About the Author Lorna Albany WA 25th September 2010 12:15am #UserID: 591 Posts: 91 View All Lorna's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... LOL! So true Lorna! I still have a few window box roma plants that hung on from last year - they get no water from me (only from the Biolytix sub surface retic) - ironically - these exact same plants have NO blossom end rot this year!?...it's probably just like you say - connections we don't understand yet. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 25th September 2010 1:13pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hey everyone, I wanted to ask if anyone know what these brown spots are on my tomato plants. The weather in Melbourne has been quite wet lately so we've been having hot days then suddenly heavy rain and even some hail so it could just be damage from the elements but im concerned its a fungal disease. Does anyone knwo what it is and how to fix it? Thanks alot Steven
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Diana says... Hi Steven, That could be bacterial canker. ( See http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s3006209.htm ). My tomatoes got that too. Diana. | About the Author Diana Brisbane 7th December 2010 12:57pm #UserID: 3004 Posts: 284 View All Diana's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... Hi Diana thanks for your help. I went to the nursery and got some fungicide for it. Apparently because of all the rain we've been having there is alot of fungi blooms in melbourne now. The lady at the nursery had to throw out 40 tomato seedlings the other day for the same reason Hopefully i can kill it. it a shame because i dont like using poisons but its better than loosing your crops Thanks alot Steven | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 7th December 2010 4:54pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... hi Steven - maybe you could pinch off a 'healthy' looking shoot and pot it up (if they are worth the hassle?) you may be able to out-run the disease - especially if you keep the pot/plant out of the adverse conditions? Even if you only get a few fruit - you can still seed save...may be worth a shot.. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 8th December 2010 11:42pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steven says... That might be a good idea Amanda. ive picked off all the bad leaves and thrown them in the bin, i then sprayed them with a copper fungicide, tomorrow ill water them with seasol and give them another spray. they seem to be better now and hopefully ill be able to save them. If they get worse ill do what you said Amanda Did you lose your tomato plants wayne or were you able to get rid of it? Thanks alot everyone for your help. | About the Author Steven Eastern Melbourne 12th December 2010 9:46pm #UserID: 704 Posts: 325 View All Steven's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... I read that San Marzanos come from the Mount Vesuvius area of Italy, in fact grow on the mountain flanks so maybe you need to try grow in soil with a little scoria & minimum suphur. Mine in Victoria were delicious & yes we were on volcanic soil near Red Rock, Alvie! Even so Amish paste were the best paste tomatoes ever but not easy to grow.They were so nice we never got to paste them. Romas are like supermarket toms, yeah bloody tasteless! Anyone with amish paste or marzano ? I would love some seeds for next season. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smack in the middle) 13th December 2010 1:17am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi snottiegobble - I am growing amish paste now (they not ready yet) hopefully I will get to pick some soon - will send u seed. There was a good article in the the latest Organic Gardening (ABC) mag about tom's for hot weather - they mentioned the green zebra - which is also doing really well for me. It got some blossom end rot with them though - which I found was due to over watering. I gave them some gypsum and went back to drippers and they fine now. I a having trouble with beef steaks - they are the only one's getting sunburnt. The Tommy Toes are powering away - they never seem bothered by the heat or rot problems. This makes me wonder if some varieties of tom's are not suited to my climate (for eg) or need to be grown at different times of the year maybe? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 13th December 2010 10:59am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Brad and snottiegobble. Also Brad - do u have mice or rats? Agree with Julie and also Bobtails love tomatoes! (But can't reach far - are your eaten one's very high up the bush?) Snottie - I reckon cherry toms are a great tomatoe to grow thru summer - and Tommy Toes are one of the bigger one's. My amish are in the ground - I will email u now - I also have San M. :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 13th December 2010 8:43pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... i suspect bobtails which I see around (one unfortunately at the bottom of the pool after a holiday), but we'd have lots of lizzies. the vegie patch is raised, not that I'm sure it'd deter them, but these ones aren't there anyway. I put a few in the herb bed late as I'm rejuvenating it and the previous owners have some stragglers. none of the plants are high. they haven't touched the chillies, so its probably not parrots | About the Author Brad2 G hill,Perth 14th December 2010 12:16am #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... Julie - do you have any rodent issues in Roley? I'd imagine its similar. maybe i shouldn't be shooing the neighbourhood cats away then... we had mice in como... one popped out when my mum visited one night. couldn't catch it and it disappeared in a bookshelf. didn't come out when i moved the bookshelf. When we moved the furniture we found what was left of it... got itself stuck. oops. Better say something about tomatoes - the previous owner left some "Stupice" seed. is that variety any good? | About the Author Brad2 G hill,Perth 14th December 2010 1:41am #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Brad, I have rats in the ceiling and walls - hear them bonking often. A big, black skink climbs the ivy on one wall and catches them - I hear him thundering overhead, and the rats screaming. Fun, huh? I can't think why the rats haven't the sense to move out! I was happy for him to do that, but realised he/it is probably making a mess of the insulation. So now thinking of blocking him out and putting Talon up there. Mice come into my cupboards in winter, then disappear, leaving a mess. I have possums, but they only jump on the roof and haven't done any damage. Lizards wreck my strawberries, bandicoots dig holes around my orange trees and parrots eat the fruit. Ain't life grand in the 'country'? | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 14th December 2010 2:20pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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paul ynot says... tomatoes . I have grown lots of them but maany times the stem die off after 6 weeks or so . They (the stems ) turn brown and die and thrible up. The plant does manage to grow for a little time after this happens.Has anyone got any solution to this ongoing problem Paul from Gracemere In Qld | About the Author paul ynot Gracemere 6th January 2011 5:18pm #UserID: 4535 Posts: 7 View All paul ynot's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brendan says... Hi paul, doesn't sound too good. I'd try a good dressing of Dolomite, some sulphate of potash fertilizer, that should help. If that doesn't work, it might be Verticillium wilt or Fusarium wilt, which is nearly impossible to fix. Could try 30g copper oxychloride, 4½ L water with a good wetting agent. spray weekly 'till it's cleared up. Make sure the tomato seeds/plants are from good stock. | About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 7th January 2011 9:17am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... They look delicious. The tough skin may help resist fruit fly? I've read there's a fuzzy skinned tomato (like a peach) that resists F/F, thinking of hunting some down and trying them. Saying that, I've a bumber crop of Tigerella's this year and so far no F/F - too early in the season maybe? | About the Author VF Wongawallan 15th December 2012 9:37am #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Nice one Brendan :) U would laugh at my efforts to grow them "down south" in our new home ...hehe...They take forever in a cooler climate!? I am getting so impatient and still buying disgusting shop bought one's..urghh! I will have to learn all about "Early, Mid and Late" season tom's now..? Never needed to bother in Gero as it was tomatoe season all year round...lol... | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 15th December 2012 12:58pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... They do take while, don't they amanda? I've had green tomatoes for what seems like months (probably not!), though I was hoping for ripe ones by Christmas. Not gonna happen. I asked a friend on a US forum how they get tomatoes ripe with such a short growing season. Most of the time, they grow early-ripening hybrids it seems. I really prefer to grow open-pollinated plants. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 15th December 2012 9:47pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Yes - mine been green for ages too Julie! It's this bizarre mild weather we are having maybe..? Lovely 110mm of rain last week but my beautiful apricots splitting now...ahh the joys of gardening hey??? I will research some (non hybrid) "early" varieties and see what comes up...? Brendan - that sounds like too much hard work for me mate! :D I know green zebra isn't early anyway - the plants got to 2m tall before they even flowered! I planted them in late Aug...ended up pulling them out Julie... PS: found this on a Tasmanian site - but never heard of the varieties myself...My Tiny Tim has been the first to ripen so far...and is listed as an early variety too... "Early tomato varieties; ripening by early/mid January in cool climates, recommended for Tasmania as a result of our trial work are: Super Arctic Cherry, Beaverlodge, Kootenai, Sandpoint, Shoshone, Latah, Cal Mart , Santa, Black Plum, Sweetie, Yellow Taxi, Northern Delight, and Stakeless..." | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 16th December 2012 12:53pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Here we go! A pretty comprehensive list worth saving (from Greenfingers guy..) Tomato cultivars listed by season, from very early to very late. The terms early and late are relative to your local region and no attempt is made here to qualify the dates, suffice to say that first frost day in southern climates usually spells the end of the Tomato season. Pixie Hybrid II very early, 2 weeks earlier than Earliest of All Pixie very early Regency very early Vemone very early Scorpio very early, planted March-August in tropical Qld Earliest of All very early Kotlas very early Walter very early Apollo Improved early Apollo early Peruvian Sugarlump early Super Marmande early Quickcrop early Tiny Tim early Stripey early Burnley Gem early Moneymaker early Red Peach early Sweet Million early Duke early Golden Sunrise early Regency early Green Zebra early Rouge de Marmande early-mid Burnley Surecrop early-mid, sets two weeks earlier than Gross Lisse KY1 early-mid Sungold early-mid Arcadia early-mid Gardener's Delight early-mid Red Back early-mid Patriot mid Red Cherry mid Jubilee mid Plumfryer mid Amish Paste mid Moonshot mid Summertaste mid Zolla mid Ballerina mid Firefox mid Continental mid Mighty Red mid Principe Borghese mid Roma mid Black Russian mid Earlypeel Improved mid Sunny mid Floridade mid Crimson Vee mid La Rossa mid Mortgage Lifter mid Golden Jubilee mid Purple Calabash mid Tropic mid Ultra Boy mid Trident mid Beefmaster mid Beefsteak mid Golden Gourmet Filler mid Sunray mid College Challenger mid Quick Pick mid Mini Red Pear mid Mini Yellow Pear mid Yellow Plum mid Yellow Baby mid Buccaneer mid Schimmeig Creg mid Goldilocks mid Pirate mid Thompson's Seedless Grape mid Shady Lady mid Colossal Yellow mid Scotland Yellow mid San Marzano mid Grosse Lisse mid-late Super Beefsteak mid-late Oxheart mid-late Beefsteak Brookway No.3 mid-late SPS 729 mid-late Greenwich mid-late Super Roma mid-late Sweet 100 mid-late Tommy Toe mid-late Bullseye mid-late Red Centre mid-late Super Prize mid-late Patio Prize mid-late First Prize mid-late Hawk mid-late Cocktail Supreme mid-late Bite Size mid-late Peruvian Currant mid-late Brandywine Pink mid-late Burnley Metro mid-late Mande mid-late Dynamo mid-late Pineapple mid-late Longkeeper late Verna Orange late White Beauty late Burnley Bounty very late Kelstar very late Solar Set very late Cherry Cocktail early & late Vivian early & late Cuatomate early & late Mama Mia early & late Mama's Delight early & late Broad Ripple Yellow Currant early to late Taurus early to late | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 16th December 2012 1:33pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Interesting list amanda, I'll file it. My Green Zebra has been the first so far - I've had a couple of fruits off it. But it doesn't look like it will ever get to 2 metres - I thought it was a non-staking type? Black Russian had one fruit a few weeks ago then stopped. Seems to be making more now. Next will be Grosse Lisse, as a couple are turning colour. Sowed Tommy Toe a bit late, as I couldn't find seeds. Bought them online, but now I see Yates have them. But it will be good to have them late when others have finished. One plant which is doing really well is a Grosse Lisse I left in the pot from last year. I noticed some new leaves on it in spring, pruned it back and fed it, and it is now loaded! Didn't think that was possible with our cold hills winters. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 16th December 2012 10:00pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brendan says... Hi Julie & amanda, I should have added Boron as well to the liquid potash above. Tom (guru) recommends a level tbsp of boron/borax in 4½ litres of water with a bit of wetter, and spray the plants twice weekly for 3 to 4 weeks. That, with a bit of potash & boron sprinkled around the base of the plants, should make em ripen :-) | About the Author Brendan Mackay, Q 17th December 2012 9:04am #UserID: 1947 Posts: 1722 View All Brendan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Maybe it was too much pig poo Julie!? hehe. I am amazed at how much better my veggies grow down here? Slower yes, but the leaf sizes are huge in comparison to Geraldton...everything must have been really stunted by the salt up there. Brendan - that level of boron could make your soil toxic..? Be careful with that stuff hey...a level teaspoon would be much safer maybe..? | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 17th December 2012 10:20am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Brendan - here is the Gardening Australia recommendation for boron - a pinch (4gm) in 4.5L - JCW only does it once every three years!? :) http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s1801782.htm | About the Author amanda19 Leschenault (160kms south of Perth) 17th December 2012 10:40am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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