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tr starts with ...
Picked a kilo of these today at work .
I like the taste of these , another sub-acid little treat that is ultra tropical . A mate lost hundreds of grafted ones he was trying to grow in Childers . Can take 20 years from seed ! Maybe not that long with some TLC .
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Anonymous says...
Are they the same as Wampi?
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NO
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Kath says...
tr, do you have any seed you want to sell?
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Kath , the seeds have an extremely short viability period unless sealed in a bag . I have yet to sow them all , contact me on my gmail acc , I'm pinanga . I will put some on sphag and seal .
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Dana says...
Hi,
I am from Vietnam and Langsat/Duku was my favourite fruit as a child. Now living in perth, I collect tropical fruits in my backyard. I regret to say I could not find any Duku in perth or online. I am willing to pay anything for just one tree.
Any sugestion.
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Ellen says...
Dana

is that trai' da^u chua, similar to trai' bo`n bon ? Or vietnamese called trai' Hoa`ng bi` ?
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Michael says...
Hi Ellen,
Do you know what is the Vietnamese name for the Wampi tree ?
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
I may be wrong but the fruits in the picture look like wampees to me. Langsat/duku is much bigger and rounder. They look very similar. BTW, The Vietnamese name is 'trai' nha^m' these are grown lots in the North of Vietnam.
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Michael says...
Below are pictures of the Wampi and Langsat I came across on the net and to me the fruit in question looks alot like the Wampi
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Michael says...
Hi Jujube For Sale in Melbourne ,
Can you tell me the Vietnamese name for Jujube's?

Thanks
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,

The name of jujube in Vietnamese is 'Tao tau'.
Tao means apple like fruit
tau means Chinese
and the Chinese name is Chinese date or
hóng zǎo or hēi zǎo

I hope it helps.
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Ellen says...
Michael

wampi is called Hoàng Bì in Vietnamese .
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Michael says...
Thanks Ellen and JFSIM . Now I need to source the Jujube plant to grow .
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Dana says...
Hi Ellen

The fruit I am after is called "Trái Dâu Chua" in Vietnamese.
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Ellen says...
Dana

Down in Cabramatta - all the asian markets called Wampi as " Dâu Chua "

But proper named for the fruit is called Hoàng Bì .

Trái nầy nó có vị Ngọt & Chua at the same time . If over riped then nó ngọt như Bòn Bon .
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
There is another kind of fruit called rambai which is very similar to wampee or langsat/duku that has been grown in Cairns, quite rare because I have seen them sold in Rusty market only twice in the last 15 years

http://www.totalizm.pl/fruit/new_buah_rambai.jpg

http://www.capetrib.com.au/rambai.htm

we have them in VN, big and small fruit types mainly in Long Khanh.
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Michael says...
Hi Ellen,
Do you know which shop in Cabramatta sells the Wampi fruit ? I'm keen to try some as I have a small plant that won't bear fruit until probably a few more years . I'm still deciding if it's worth the wait for the Wampi or I should dig it up and plant a Sapodilla instead .
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Ellen says...
Nguyet

I've look at those link, rambai is the same as the wampi .

Remember there are 2 varies in the Wampi.

-Yeem Pay
-Guy Sam

One is sweeter than the other.(AS Correy had said.)

In North VN, they're plenty, when in fruiting season.In LK the weather is a bit warmer than in N.VN so it is not as much.


Michael

In Cabramatta, there are only 3 shops that sells them . I forgot their names, I'll post it up after I go down there this weekend -shopping.
And for this fruit, there are no "let try" as they are over $20+/Kg, and some shop don't even let you choose, as they have already packaged it for you.

Tr, he's down in Melbourne as well, he said he had 2 plants of it as well, 1 he put in ground, only fruit once when he bought it, after he put in ground it only grow lushy but never fruit for him, even though it had grown to quite bushy.
But the one he planted in pot, it fruit every year for him .


So How long have you got your Wampi plant already Michael ?
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,

I have tasted 3 types of similar fruit in Cairns.

rambai: fruit bunches came out from the trunk of the tree in a farm in Inisfail. Skin is very thick, it is very hard to separate seed from flesh

http://www.kiaraholidays.com/images/gallery/medium/Eatable%20Rambai%20Tikus.jpg

Langsat/duku: 2 varieties: small type is in bunches but very much like a bunch of grape, the bigger type in cluster. The skin is not thick but peelable.

www.flickr.com/photos/pyejal/2745388193/

wampi has fruit in a bunch but from the terminal end of the branches not the trunk, very small fruit has very citrus smell and paper thin skin and seed can be separated from flesh. Segments are not quite separated like the other two described above. I had one in the pot but died last year.
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/wampee.htm
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Ellen says...
Nguyet


Your 1st & 2nd links -rambai - that is definitely the dâu chua fruits in Cabramatta's asian markets selling when in season.

As for the wampi -> the wikipedia sourced it as the Việt people called it Hoàng Bì .
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,

In Saigon we called

rambai, the long stem bunch: 'da^u da'

langsat/duku, short stem bunch (small type) or loose (big type): 'bong bong'

wampee 'trai nha^m'. I never saw wampee sold in Saigon but my neibough from north VN said that what they called in the North. It makes sense because oringinally this fruit come from China which is closed to North VN.

Perhaps different regions give them different names
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anonymous says...
Those fruits are Wampis, we have a small grove of them here in my backyard in Brisbane. With their green seeds and translucent flesh, they look a bit like lanzones/langsat, but langsat are bigger and have white skin. They taste similar too.
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trikus says...
YES my mistake ,, owner did not remember as trees already on property when bought .
It was pointed out to me a few weeks after I posted this ..
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Matthew says...
dUku or langsart are twice as big as a grape.Break into the light brown skin to reveal creamy grey flesh which is split into segments. It is very sweet with a sour edge and sticky.Grows in large bunches. I liked this fruit better than logans. I lived in Thailand for a while, langsart are a great fruit. Available in Thailand from June to October. Price in Thailand 30 baht to 90.
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www.charmingindochina.com says...
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Dear all, I just found the information, it is called:
English: langsat
Indonesia: langsat, duku, kokosan
Malaysia: langsat, duku, duku-langsat
Philippines: lansones, boboa, buahan
Thai: langsat, duku, longkong
Vietnam: ḅn-bon
Spanish: lansón
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www.charmingindochina.com says...
Langsats in Malaya generally bear twice a year-in June and July and again in December and January or even until February. In India, the fruits ripen from April to September but in the Philippines the season is short and most of the fruits are off the market in less than one month.
We do not have this in Northern of Vietnam as it is hot to grow this in North of Vietnam, In South of Vietnam you can easy to find this. You travel to North of Vietnam and can only buy this nice fruit from market that we import from the South.
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rev says...
The ones in Bali ive read are mostly 'wild harvested', which i think really means from low input agroforests versus from intensively managed orchards.
If you look and see what wild is, its really normally complex agroforests

I brought back seed, which was allowed
clean off all pulp
Id reccomend EMS service if you want to ship seed to australia
but really its safer to bring it with you on the plane so it doesnt go mouldy

at any rate i left mine too long and they didnt come up, oh well next time

the fruit at the start of this topic dont look like what i know as langsaat.
Langasat in Bali are fairly large, leathery yellow skin with white latex
and a grape like fruit inside with green seed

you can rely on them being about AU$1.00 kg or less when you are up in the hills, tourist price near the beach! anyway its still cheap compared to anything here and they dont have any social security

There is a fruit tree agribusiness company in Surabaya that supplies grafted trees of many excellent tropical fruits i think incl langsat
i have a flyer somewhere... if i can ever find it
another time..
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rev says...
As for Wampi
nice trees at the entry to the city farm near Royal brisbane womens hospital in brisvegas
tasty!

I also grew them in SW WA. they are relatively tough, just dont like too much frost
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amanda says...
Hey Rev - will Langasat grow around Perth area do u think?
We are in Bali for Xmas.
Also - is worth looking for Jackfruit seed there do u think?
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rev says...
Langsaat i doubt it.
its preferred loaction is rainforest covered river valleys and i dont think anywhere in the west would suit it , bar the ord river irrigation area

Jackfruit for sure. Ive brought it back to WA before - minimal problems
you clean the seed well, take a pack of zip lock baggies over with you,a permanent marker, and some dry perlite of spaghnum
You eat the local fruits with wanton abandon owing to their quality and cheapness
keep the pips and throw them in a bag with the spaghnum while you are over there
the spaghnum will keep them fresh and nice
the day before you leave you wash the seeds well and put in the zip lock sandwich bags and write the botanical name on the bags
email me and i can help you if in doubt
reville1@gmail.com
then you just declare at customs
if the officers object dont be upset and dont give up, simply say that you believe them to be permitted ( we can check all this on the databases before you leave)
and that they be forwarded to canningvale
where a senior AgWA person will inspect , and most often clear and forward to you
The needs and powers are well defined
but the grunts i hate to say are not well trained, its very easy and well worth it to go above their heads if youve already done your homework..
and you get what you are allowed to have

even though you might not be able to grow something id be very keen to swap/trade/buy/ pre-buy and provide all necesary assistance to ensure you eat as much yummy fruit as possible :D:D
i may be in Bali myself christmas time, but either way, get it while its legal..
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sorry, to be specific
when asked by customs that a sepearte matter
with them you declare all drugs (prescription or otherwise) and weapons, and items of value
aqis deals with biologicals
thats after customs
after a few times dealing with them you'll understand. They are nice people, they just tend to be inexperienced with us experienced plant collectors. You are well within rights to request the matter be reviewed by a senior officer
you cant get in trouble for asking because you declared it. thats your only duty so you cant get in trouble
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amanda says...
Thanks Rev...I am pretty keen to check out the Jackfruits. Yes - have had fun with AQIS before - we love bringing back "stuff" - but everything has always been forwarded back to us in perfect condition.

Will get in touch with u when time gets closer - would really appreciate your advice Rev - thanks!
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Rev says...
Its been my experience that most often they appreciate people who have bothered to read their website.

If it wasnt for the fact i always get the red-eyes and they want to go home, then im sure itd be interesting for them, they do manage to spark up a bit when i plonk 4 bags on the table and say - this ones my clothes, and these 3....you will want to see

I tried to get work with them a few tmes, i know it'd interest me!
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langsat says...
did anyone find where to buy langsat fruit or seeds in WA?
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Nick T says...
I'm going to Vietnam over Christmas so I can certainly bring back some extra langsat seeds :)
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Mike says...
Nick T I am immediately rushing to put together a seed wishlist and fruit itinary for you.
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Nick T says...
Fantastic! I'll have to make sure I visit more markets this time, perhaps even a few botanical gardens. Hopefully the seeds from this trip will survive better (I'm hoping to get some heat in the greenhouse next winter, im thinking something along the lines of homemade methane)- I've only got two snakefruits, one duku and an unlimited supply of tamarind seeds left :)
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7093 says...
Nick T, would be great if you can get me a few langsat seeds but are you allowed to bring them into WA?
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Nick T says...
I'm not sure 7093, I'll have to research the quarantine restrictions for WA whenever I have some spare time :)
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David says...
Ate fresh Langsat in HongKong back in 2007, fresh from the markets. Lovely smell and taste, pity it takes so long to grow them.
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amanda says...
Tried these on holiday last week...urggh!? Is there a trick to eating/peeling them so that your lips and fingers don't stick together with the huge amounts of latex in the skin?

Very, very tangy too, even for me...?

(A bit dissapointing but the spice-undertones and the texture were ok though...)
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Amanda,

I was told to roll a duku fruit in between the palms of your hands a couple of times before eating it will help.
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Mike says...
Amanda it sounds like you got langsats rather than the more favoured longkong,duku-langsat or dukus.It is a bit like comparing cumquats to mandarins.
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amanda says...
This was the fruit Mike..? It was labelled Duku Local (at the Bintang supermarket) but I've never seen either so wouldn't have a clue! :)
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Mike says...
Amanda langsat is distinguished by the very thin skin containing latex, more sour taste ,smaller size of fruit and very regular shaped fruit. They look more like langsat than the others.The seeds are also extra bitter.
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Scott says...
Are they bothered by fruit fly?
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Mike says...
No fruitflies do not sting them.
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amanda says...
Thanks Mike...u are a wonderful resource on this forum! :)
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Kim says...
agreed Amanda -Mike is a walking talking fruitpedia. :)

Have you collected some seeds from your trip Amanda? I have a holiday scheduled in the very near future and if I successful in brining seeds back I'd planned on offering you some. Not sure how i'll go as i've never done anything of the sort before.. so fingers crossed.
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amanda says...
I was too chicken Kim ;-) The Perth quarantine at the internation airport can be ruthless...plus I wouldn't know if I was collecting seed from a dud type or not...?
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Mike says...
http://www.montosogardens.com/lansium_domesticum.htm
http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8426235&intCommodityId=5415&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0
Above are the varieties and the icon aqis description showing they are permitted.You can't get in trouble when you declare and they are allowed anyway.
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Kim says...
i know what you mean... but i'm trying my luck anyways... i'm hoping get sapote, maprang, chempedak, longan, maybe tamarind and langsat. If successful, are you interested in these seeds? are there any you're interested in? What about everyone else? I can't guarantee anything, but will be willing to share whatever i can bring back...

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Nick T says...
Hi Kim, you should be okay with all those seeds as they are all permitted species. All you have to do is bring them in the right way :) https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/importing-seeds/)
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Mike says...
Kim only get maprang wan not mayom chid,only get sweet tamaring not the common type.Longan are good from seeds and biew kiew is the cream of the crop.With langsat utteraditt or paete are good.
Just slot the genus in the link to daff I posted and bring seeds in a labelled clipbag with vermiculits.
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amanda says...
Mike - How do u get hold of those named varieties in somewhere like Indonesia? Do they have plant Nurseries or do u need to find another plant enthusiast?

(PS..thanks for your kind offer Kim :) I still have heaps of work to do with reticulation and redesigning our new block b4 I can look at anything sub tropical...plus I am told we get the odd frost.. :(
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Kim says...
Mike, thanks for the suggestions - will note them down... Must bring some vermiculite as well... Many thanks for that suggestion.

Thanks Nick for the helpful link. Here's to hoping - I'm somewhat confident as they're permitted species, but anxious I might get a meanie quarantine officer! :)

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Nick T says...
If you want, I can email you the email address of a DAFF worker who's been really helpful for me. You can ask her if the seeds are definitely permitted, then print off the email as documented proof. I'd doubt you'd have any trouble then.
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Mike says...
The ICON printout is pretty definitive if it is in the cliplock bags. If in doubt alert DAFF that you will be declaring seeds and give flight details.
I ate some duku-langsat today and they were great. Indonesia and sth Malaysia has mostly duku as they are more equatorial. Langsat can survive in the subtropics and longkong is intermediate in cold tolerance.I can't advise on Indonesian nurseries but the markets should have all the seasonal fruit.
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Kim says...
Thanks Nick for the kind offer, I might try and get the contact details for a local agent - might be easier that way?

Thanks for your suggestions Mike. Is just the condition c7100 sufficient or do you normally print out all the information displayed for the commodity?

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brando mack onalam says...
langsat duku send me a picyure i want to see it again
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Linton says...
Please identify this fruit. They are the small creamy white ones in the middle.

Is it Rambai or Langsat? Very nice to eat and not sticky, but I'm not sure what it is. Thank you.
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sternus1 says...
They're hard to tell apart, my guess is langsat but it's still a coin toss.
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MIke T1 says...
They are neither duku nor Langsat but longkong.
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Linton says...
Langsats gotten in Parkmore today!

These Langsats were for sale at Parkmore Fruit Market today. Got about a dozen and the flavour is over the moon. Probably not worth sowing the seeds down here though - shame!
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Bangkok says...
Linton if you want longkong seeds then let me know.

http://www.dizonexoticfruittrees.com/lanzones/

I read this website and they say the ones from Thailand are much better then the phaete variety.

I just bought a grafted longkongtree and now i wonder if i have to grow it in full sun or in shade.

That website says the ones from Thailand can grow in full sun but many other websites say they like to be in shade.

If you ask a Thai about langsat they will tell you that longkong is much better. I only have eaten longkong and there are very nice ones with very little latex. You get sticky fingers/lips but for the rest i didn't see latex at all.

Sending seeds in spagnum moss works fine, i sent some like that and they arrived in perfect condition in the USA.
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Linton says...
Hi Bkk.......

thanks for the offer of Longkong seeds. I doubt if they could be grown in Melbourne. Anyway I need to wait for the Longan seeds you sent to see if they will pass through our customs without any problems. I have not tried to import seeds since the new regulations which do not permit them to be sent by private individuals.

They can only be sent by a registered supplier so I want to see if this is going to cause problems for your packet. Also there's supposed to be a notice written on the outside advising the postal that they need to be inspected on arrival. So let's wait and see what happens with this lot.

Cheers!
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Bangkok says...
Linton i guess they'll arrive soon but have some christmas delay.

I sent very clean seeds in a new bag/envelope and wrote what they are on the inside and outside of the envelope.

I never heard of an official seedsupplier in Thailand except for seeds that are sold in gardenshops but they are vegy-seeds, not fruit.

Let's wait and see.




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