Loquat trees

John says...
Tim

Chainsaw the old trees and replace with fresh trees.

I have an orchard full of loquats on Roberts Rd Kelmscott and they do not transplant at all well.

John says...
There is an eartmoving mob on ranford St (off brookton Hwy) Kelmscott that can do this. Their name escapes em right now. Have a look after hours for the diggers etc.

Brad says...
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/loquat.html

i understand "cluster thinning" to mean exactly what you suggest

Julie says...
Thanks Brad, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Don't know why I haven't thought of it before - would have saved me a lot of time!

John Mc says...
Hey Kert,
I dug this tree up prior to the property owner selling up and moving to town. I'll go talk to him and find out more. He was definate on the var name, that's why I went to the trouble of relocating it.

kert says...
I've had heaps of trouble finding them.There are two loquats on my wish list, Mizuho and Champagne; both are highly regarded and I 've yet to see them for sale.

kerrt says...
Yes, that sounds right. Birdwood had a lot of "enthusiast" type trees of all descriptions but then it decided to confine itself to commercial varieties. I did see a Mizuho in Perth years ago . It was anursery a fair way out of town run by an eccentric type. He had it in a huge bag and the thing had rooted to the ground . I thought I would have trouble bringing it onto the plane.Still and all there must be a parent tree somewhere near Birdwood.

Brad says...
I believe so. A local nurseryman was saying his lychees and loquats were marcotted and this is confirmed by the table at http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/proptable.html

PS odd that I've referenced the same site twice in a thread I know nothing about personally

Brad says...
that's really not how I'd pictured you phil ;)

Phil@Tyalgum says...
Heheh - bushy beard maybe, the helicopter flies over a bit too regular to be surrounded by all that greenery... this is the real me btw.

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Jason says...
One guy here thought he would be funny and ran outside to throw covers on his tomato's just as the chopper flew over :p. About 4 cars full of cops arrived soon after and gave him a stern talking to once they realised he wasn't doing anything illegal

Jason says...
Only when they are babys the shape of the leaves makes them look a bit the same but if you compare adult trees

Mamey I saw in Mexico versus a Loquat.

Re moving big trees, I'd say it would always work out better and faster to prepare seedlings first and then re graft your collection to new trees

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kert says...
Phil, that picture of you and the loquats ,they look as if they might be Bessel Brown . Are they definitely Champagne?

BJ says...
Hi Kert,
If you really want a Champagne Loquat, there is definitely one for sale at Nova Gardens in the Gap. You could ring them and see if they will ship, or who their stockist is, and see if they have sent any to anywhere near you...

BJ says...
Question for the Loquat growers out there: Which variety is the best for a home garden? (taste, size of tree, easy management, pests etc.)

Rev says...
"One guy here thought he would be funny and ran outside to throw covers on his tomato's just as the chopper flew over :p. About 4 cars full of cops arrived soon after and gave him a stern talking to"

thats my sense of humour. lol
cept i wouldnt take the talking to
youd be well within your rights to tell them to GF.. I dont grow or smoke weed, though im fine with those who do for personal and community, so i fully resent the imposition of helicopters over my house. Bastards wasting taxpayer dollars. Weed subsidizes centrelink in remote areas,it saves the country millions/-go chase white collar crime instead..G.F.C. ring any bells?

what about seedling loquats?
thats all ive ever known. about 3-4 years from seed to fruit with the ones ive grown - SW WA
I hope my grafted Nagasakiwase from Daleys survives down south. Im looking fwd to planting a grove of its seedlings. Too bad about the fly
otherwise its a great difficult zone subtropical tree

BJ says...
Kert, have you called Birdwood to ask about Mizuho? Their retail nursery list says they have it. It is current as of October last year, so not that long ago at all. There may still be some there?

List:
Nagasaki Wase, Mizuho, Tony 2 & Vin 1 (Western Aust Pearl), Bessel Brown

Jantina says...
Rev I wouldn't think you'd have any problems growing loquat down south, my Nagasakiwase from Daleys has doubled in size in less than a year and now has 11 fruits on it.

BJ says...
Kert, if you are still out there - I've located a supplier of Mizuho and Champagne loquat. He's based on the South side of Brisbane. He had a stall at the BOGI fair over the weekend - and had some huge (6-7ft) Mizuho plants there. He also does the Chandler markets. I'll post a contact when I get home.

John Mc says...
Also very interested in contact details , BJ, if you don't mind?
If they're anything like my early supersweet, zero tartness when left to fully ripen on the tree, seedling Nagasakiwase, I would like to try other varieties.
I also have a grafted Nagasakiwasi, bessell brown and unknown seedling with large fruit, all about to ripen up.

kert says...
Very much appreciated.

john says...
It was a dehydrated fruit .

john says...
Just a guess -Bessel Brown

John Mc says...
Julie, I thin the individual immature fruits when they get to a certain size rather than remove whole clusters. Might be more fiddly, but probably preaching to the converted with the benefits of thining fruit.

John Mc says...
The fruit doesn't ripen all at once so it's easy to thin out a few bunches at a time over the month or so. When I've thinned the bunch out I cover it with a large organza bag and then they're safe till they ripen to perfection. Being able to leave the fruit on the tree till perfectly ripe, gives them bragging rights as one of the most beautiful tasting fruits on the planet, IMO. I've kept my tree fairly low so I can reach nearly every bunch from the ground.

Dr Fruit says...
Bob at Fairchilds has new ph due to coverage issues 0456711580, has 3 Champagnes in stock as of yesterday due to cancelled order if you can't get them from Daleys, he prefers you try them first as this their forum. {Boo Hiss J}

ivepeters says...
I ran into him at Chandler markets Sunday, he said he had sold out of all grafted mizuho till next year.

yrt says...
Dr Fruit , can I consult you on whether 'Fairchilds' is a nursery? I could not find it online.

gimme says...
How does one buy fruit trees from fairchilds?

yrt says...
I'm pretty sure that you are not detracting from sales at Daleys. fanning interest in ,say, loquats probably increases the market. Daleys cannot stock everything and do not stock Champaign. Does Bob McGuffin have an interest in Fairchilds?

yrt says...
Dr. Fruit , please call back ;all is forgiven.

Dr Fruit says...
Hi
I have Champagne {only 3 left} and some [4 I think] advanced Vin no 1 in 100 litre bags about 2.4 metres and just about to flower.I have lots of crosses that I have been working on for 2-3 years, one in particular looks very promising if fruit is good I will be selling them at the next B.O.G.I. fair which is in October I think. I would check with Daleys first though.
cheers

phil@tyalgum says...
I was lucky to get a couple of "Vista White" seedlings up which are thriving. I hope they are similar to the parent plant in Orlando, Fl.

Don C says...
A few years ago I moved an orange tree, it just sat there for months. The leaves got tattier and tattier, some fell off and no new ones grew. I bought and applied some seasol as a last effort. Within a week or two new shoots came out. Could have been coincidence, but I'd recommend giving seasol a try if you haven't already.

Chris says...
Fireblight you say? Not yet in Australia thankfully.

Edward3 says...
I thought it might interest others that I have a Nagasakiwase loquat tree growing in Katoomba and doing very well. I transplanted it from Sydney where its flowers were constantly eaten by moth caterpillars, and of course there was also the fruit fly problem. The tree was 2 meters tall when I moved it, and it showed no transplant shock. It has now given us fruit and it seems Katoomba weather suits it well, even though we get the occasional snow falls.