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BJ says... I just ate my very first mamey sapote. Left it for a week to ripen and sugar up. Wonderful! I had a little raw, which was as per the form guide: like a sweet potato and pumpkin with a bit of extra caramel and a texture similar to an avocado, perhaps with a little more fibre. It was even better in a shake with a scoop low fat ice cream, milk, ice, a dash of honey and cinnamon. Though the fruit itself is so sugary it probably didnt need the extra honey. The seed is germinating and i wondered which way up I should plant it if I wanted to try and pot it up? Anyone have any experience with planting the seeds? | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 2nd May 2010 10:39am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... How long does it take for the fruit to develop on these guys? I have a few on my young tree and they seem to be taking forever! (maybe I am just impatient tho'... :) Has been a very tough plant here (in cold and heat) and flowered when I potted it up and put it in the shade house - surprised the flowers pollinated - but there u go.. | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. Mid West WA 14th May 2011 11:05am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Amanda, A friend of mine who sells this beautiful fruit at Rusty market Cairns told me: It will take up to 24 months for the fruits to mature and then no one could keep track on which fruit? and how many months so the best way is to scratch a tiny bit on the skin if it is very orange then it is ready to be picked. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 14th May 2011 11:49am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Lucky you Amanda! I've been waiting a while for the grafted Mameys to be listed on here. Particularly the Magana, which is a small tree with football sized fruit! They are fairly common overseas, but I believe grafted mamey is now only done by Daleys in Oz?! it can take 2 years for the bigger fruits, but a healthy Pantin can be quicker. This video is a good reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVIE58RMjeo | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 14th May 2011 2:20pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Thanks BJ - it's got 1/2 doz - I don't think it's grafted though - can't see one. It didn't have a label - so I guess I will just have to wait and see. It's only 1m or so tall, had it for 1.5yrs maybe...it's shooting away like mad at present (since I put it in the shade house actually..) | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. Mid West WA 14th May 2011 7:35pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Easy to tell difference. Mamey leaves are large and look a little bit like avocado leaves, but slightly furry. Sapodilla leaves are much smaller. And the fruit are 10x larger! I have lots of seedling Mamey. they are 100% germinators, but can take a long time to fruit and can grow very large, quite quickly. The last proper spot in my garden is being saved for a grafted Magana. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 14th May 2011 8:47pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Mamey season is on now. Well worth the 300km round trip to Tropical Fruit World to pick up a good selection of different types. Also picked up a few buckets of Avocado, Green Sapotes, Black Sapotes, White Sapotes, Canistels, Sapodillas and what was labelled 'soncoya', but I believe is a red Ilama. Its a good time to make a visit! | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 21st December 2011 9:57pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... That is very interesting BJ and now I see your previous post.The nurseries rarely have mamey sapotes and limberlost used to sell marcotted one but I don't know now.DPI QLD brought in some great types and good ones seem to be with fruit specialists around Babinda to Tully and around Mossman.A tree at kamerunga had giant sweet fruit almost as good as the best canistels but it was chopped down.Are the green sapotes as good as their relatives?Peter in Adelaide is after white sapote seeds by the way.Oh yeah the soncoyas are much like seedy,long spiked soursops with white fleshed ones sweeter than orange fleshed.One person at Mission beach has 2 good varieties.Illama is extremely vaiable in flesh and skin colour and more like a big atemoya with blunt sparse spikes.Red fleshed are not supposed to be as sweet as white fleshed.I don't know of any trees in this district at all and they are a genuine rarity. | About the Author Cairns 21st December 2011 11:40pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Mike, the Green Sapote is superior to the Mamey in almost every way. Taste is nearly identical, but the green is smoother, without the hint of grit that most mamey have, no fibre, which many mamey have and the tree is smaller. Mamey are a bigger tree and bigger fruit. Despite all of this, I'd still rank Mamey higher than the green on personal preference, probably because it was the one I first ate... The 'soncoya' had no spines, which is why I thought it to be an Ilama. It was super seedy, with little to no flesh. I'm still unsure what it actually was... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 24th December 2011 7:19pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi BJ, I found this nursery in Tully sells grafted Mamey but only deliver to North QLD only. http://www.menacreekgardens.com.au/product-list.htm | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 24th December 2011 10:38pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Mena Creek nursery has small stalls at some of the markets and festivals at times and I believe they don't have alot on the list and order others in.You could be lucky and I don't know how they went in the cyclone but being closer to Innisfail they might have less damage.Exotic Groves was another excellent nursery at Woopen Creek but I don't think they are still in business.Places close to the South Johnstone Rearch station seem to have more as they must tap in to the huge variety of trees there. | About the Author Cairns 24th December 2011 10:53pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... I've already pre-purchased a Pantin from Daley's, so hoping that is ready soon. I contacted Mena Creek a while ago. They said there is a backlog of orders from NQ growers who'd lost their trees in the cyclone. More than fair enough. I'd love to get my hands on a Magana or Pace cv, or even try out the 'Gray'. David - lucky you. I'd have loved to have got one of the approach grafted or marcotted plants from Kasper. Though Greens are pretty much true to type from seed from what I can gather. The bonuses would be a bigger tree and a wait of less than 8 years for fruit. Still, I pot up the seeds and give them to friends and the STFC raffles for folks who have the space and patience to grow them. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 25th December 2011 9:09am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I would think fruit varieties named Gray like the abiu and mamey are named after Gray at Julatten rather than the Gray family at Cape Trib (who are a charming family with a big tropical fruit collection).Advised time to first fruiting of many species seems to be out of whack with what is actually experienced much of the time.Precocity of individuals seems to happen with regularity. | About the Author Cairns 22nd March 2012 5:23pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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David says... BJ, Its one of the approach grafted ,the day i called in to see kasper he was actually doing some of the approach grafts. He had ledges all around the tree with seedling green sapotes growing in the pots then he would cut the tops off and graft the seedling in situ next to the mother tree, he was a very clever man.He said he had another property close to the base of Tamborine mtn . Not sure if this was used to raise trees or was used to propergate. | About the Author David Brisbane 23rd March 2012 5:29pm #UserID: 1961 Posts: 670 View All David's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Cape trib will have some grafted Mungunyah Mammey's ready come May this year. I had a Pontin on order from Daley's but their count was out of wack and missed out this time round. My green sapote was that slow growing in the ground here after three years, I put it back in a pot where it's starting to get going at last. That's telling me the Mamey may have to stay in a pot also, at least for a couple of years to get some size first before planting out. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 24th March 2012 8:42am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... On the up side, the second 'pontin' from Daley's appears to be pushing flower buds. I wonder if what Daley's call 'pontin' is the same as the 'Pantin' that is most popular in the US? It isnt supposed to be prococious accoring to growers and information from there... as per the table in the link: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg331 | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 28th March 2012 9:50am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Selected varieties are great out of hand and many, many people eat them that way. I'm not sure where your information is from, but I'd say it must have been an extremely small sample of Cuban folk, perhaps just the one who doesnt like them out of hand. Someone didnt tell this Cuban they dont eat them raw/fresh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVIE58RMjeo That's Julian Lara, of Lara Farms, the big boys of Mamey production and breeding in Florida. I take his word that they taste pretty darn good out of hand. They do make good milkshakes though... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 11th December 2012 3:39pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Laisla says... FYI, I am a Cuban. In fact my user name is "the island" in Spanish. You can find a youtube video to prove anything, no matter how untrue. I can attest that few, if any people there eat them fresh. By all means, eat them how you like . But for the people stating they don't like the taste raw or unprocessed, there is an explanation - they aren't generally eaten that way Fish isn't generally eaten raw outside of Japan but there are some exceptions to that. Doesnt mean it is common | About the Author laislaa Sydney 11th December 2012 7:20pm #UserID: 7341 Posts: 57 View All laislaa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Laisla says... hmm..I didn't realise there were so many variations of Mamey. All other latin americans I talked to (granted not DOminicans or Puerto Ricans) aren't familiar with it. Perhaps it is just the Cuban variety which is best for milkshakes. It is made in to "Batido de Mamey" - delicious I grew them in Cairns before coming to Syd. They survived one winter here before dying. | About the Author laislaa Sydney 11th December 2012 10:26pm #UserID: 7341 Posts: 57 View All laislaa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg331 Laisla Pantin is the best of the Cuban fresh eating types.Here are some superior Florida types.Some are better in cooking,shakes or fresh.Haiti,Guyana and parts of the Carribean are very familiar as are parts of Mexico.Diffrent places use them in different ways and have varieties suitable.I think mangana is another sweet elite type you may know. | About the Author Cairns 11th December 2012 10:49pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Mike, Im not sure a Cuban native would know the elite types like Pantin. Pantin is also known as Key West and originates from Florida. The photo of the original tree was posted by Recher somewhere I think and I also think it still survives in the grounds of the Key West fire station. Perhaps the ones in Cuba are mostly propagated via seedling, which would give a high percentage of gritty fruit - like Sapodilla - which would put folks off eating them out of hand. Cubans on the mainland US certainly do eat them fresh and many are involved in improving current varieties to produce smooth, rich fruit with no grit. Maganya is not such a good one, as it still has a high percentage of grit. Its huge and can be unevenly ripened on occasion. Its probably the best for batido de mamey though and is a nice small tree. Unfortunately there probably isnt enough interest here to import the new varieties from Florida like Lara, Pace, Lorito, Viejo or Exaclibur and we will have to make do with Pantin and Gray, both of which are still excellent though. Here is a short pictorial list of some of the best cultivars: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=409.0 | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th December 2012 9:05am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Yes, Magana is sweet and up to a foot long and 10lb in weight, but does have the grit issue, so is best in shakes or turned into ice cream. I dont have all the details on Pantin, but there is probably truth in both stories - ie. A cuban man possibly named Pantin brought the seed from Cuba and planted it in Key West. The image here is believed to be the mother tree: http://postimage.org/image/agbaldimp/ | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th December 2012 10:11am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Laisla says... It is a shame that Mamey Sapote isn't known here; whenever I made it like i did in Cuba for people to try in Australia they loved it. So there is definitely a market if someone wants to go down that road. Cuban varieties nowadays are most likely seed trees; there is little money to invest in agriculture and even less interest in tree varieties. Cuban food is far better in Florida than in Cuba, and Im assuming this is probably true now with the fruit trees | About the Author laislaa Sydney 12th December 2012 10:21am #UserID: 7341 Posts: 57 View All laislaa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Its a huge shame Laisla and there is a strong market for them. In talking with Tropical Fruit World, who I believe are the only real commercial supplier, they say that its just about the only crop that is 100% sold. If we had the Floridian varieties you could have year-round production and a strong place in a receptive niche market, at the very least. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th December 2012 11:36am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Have been watching with interest Daleys link to Mamey Sapotes, with Mangana,Gray and Pantin all listed a being "in production", as I'd like to get one. Sadly just saw that Pantin now off the list, and they're seeking propogation material. Wonder if this big wet we've had, knocked off their grafts? :( | About the Author VF Wongawallan 5th February 2013 11:51am #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Daley's have had a few bad years with grafts. I got a few pantins last year and thats about all they've managed to get through over the past few years. They are a tough one to graft and I know two other places up north that have had 0% with them recently. If you are really after one, I do have a spare Pantin a tree sack... Next on my hitlist is a grafted green sapote, so if anyone ever hears of one being offered I'm a very serious buyer! | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 5th February 2013 12:52pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tommoz says... It is indeed originally from the native Arawakan (Taino) tongue. I'm sure it would have an interesting etymology in their language. 'Ma' means great or large, but I could not find out what the 'mey' might refer to. There is a bay around Jamaica with the same name and probably Miami, Florida is linguistically related. | About the Author Tommoz Dural 7th July 2015 2:33pm #UserID: 7219 Posts: 340 View All Tommoz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Some say mamey is tropical in requirements. I have one at 2m growing outdoors without cover, with the shelter from a 4m canistel and lucuma. Nearby is a pair of green sapotes bearing new zealands first crop. Around the corner is a 1m jakfruit, that has cover during cold nights while it is young. I have a young engkala out there too, all covered for its first winter. Towering above the house is a 5m carambola. It flowers to no avail. I am growing lots of them from seed to get a compatable pollenater. The garden used to be a frost pocket, but now with the forest grown bigger there is no frost. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 8th July 2015 6:32am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Hi, none of my tropicals are grafted. There are no nurseries selling grafted ones here. It is quite expensive to import through quarantine, and It is unknown if the grafted ones would suit our conditions. I have spread dozens of seedlings around and expect some good ones will surface eventually. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 8th July 2015 3:10pm #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Farouk says... Hi All! How is everyone's Mamey Sapote going? I planted a seed out in 2017 from one I brought in Tropical Fruit World, couldn't keep up with repotting it mainly the first spring/summer, our Sydney winter has pulled the hand brake on it or I wonder if it's the effects of being root bound in a large pot. I've just put it into the ground hoping it takes off this spring, getting its first rain while being in the ground today. With the winter making the leaves alittle yellow they sort of look like large Loquat leaves.
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Farouk says... Update, it lost all it's leaves & has put on a few new leaves they look good & healthy, I think at the rate it's growing now since it's first winter I will never get fruit off of it, it's extremely slow, the Jabuticaba grew much quicker although the Jabuticaba is more hardy. I am hopeful once the trunk thickens up it will become more hardy & put on more growth, I can't believe it sat dormant all of spring up until now the beginning of Summer to put on a few leaves. Luckily I've got all the patience. | About the Author Farouk SOUTH WENTWORTHVILLE,2145,NSW 10th December 2019 11:11am #UserID: 8110 Posts: 206 View All Farouk's Edible Fruit Trees |
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EstherH says... Just curious has anyone successfully grown mamey in NSW? We are in Wollongong which is about 1.5hrs south of Sydney. My mother in law is Cuban and she purchased one from Daley's. It's really struggling and I offered to look after it for her. However, given I don't know anyone that grows it nearby, I wonder if it's a waste of time? Our winter is mild but might be too cold for mamey? | About the Author EstherH CORDEAUX HEIGHTS,2526,NSW 17th April 2022 3:17pm #UserID: 26731 Posts: 2 View All EstherH's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Edward3 says... Hi Esther. I am growing a Mamey Sapote from seed from a fruit we ate in Tropical Fruit World several years ago. The tree is growing very well here in Sydney (we live in Carlingford so you can judge how far from the coast) and is 2 metres high already
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