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Mike starts with ... People on this forum have been most generous in sharing their plants with me.John Mc,Brendan,Jujube and now Peter from Adelaide have been especially sharing.I will have to make the balance up to John Mc and handsomely repay Peter. I was delighted to receive the big box of DF plants from Adelaide today.All are in perfect health.As I'm off work most of next week I'll ask you here Peter,what is VC,is P pink fleshed,is F1 H.u x H.P and do you know the source of the red? Besides white sapote seeds there must a few other things I can send.My 7 dragon fruit types are small but supposedly excellent and I can share those also when they get some growth. | About the Author Cairns 20th January 2012 5:25pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... You have been most generous, Mike, and I am also grateful to Julie for the Seville Orange seeds. I have raised those seeds and sent seedlings off to the wider world. I will do the same when the plants I received from you thrive and multiply. It's the best way I know to spread goodwill. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 20th January 2012 5:56pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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peter says... yea its all good fun, glad it arrived today and didnt spend the weekend in the post. vc is the vietnam red/pink skin white flesh. p. is pink flesh. all are from redfox i didnt know what the fi hybrid was but about 3/4 way down that link you sent me it describes the f1 hybrid as a x between a red female and a yellow male fruit also has spines. im not looking for much at the moment except for the white sapote and cheramoya seeds and matbe some fig scion wood of named varieties that i dont already have. | About the Author adelaide 20th January 2012 6:27pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Thank you I appreciate that and will endeavour to get the WS seeds,but good figs and cheramoya.The only aquatics I have are 2 sorts of kang kung,Limnophila chinensis var.aromatica,water celery,water chestnuts and taro.Perhaps I could tempt you with mammey sapote,ultra dwarf hog plum,Carica monoica (from John Mc) ,miracle fruit,yellow gramichama or a variety of vegies and herbs.Most others I have could struggle in Adelaide. | About the Author Cairns 20th January 2012 7:07pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Peter I am only just starting with DG not all are named varieties but this is what I'm calling them ; columbian supreme birdwood,ken's red(desert king?),Peter's commercial red, Mareeba red,Jujubes sweet/sour white,common white,original commercial coastal red and possibly Mikes hybrid.I will soon secure kamerunga yellow and with luck 5 named hybrids but I can't talk about them here.I have to stop or my yard will look like a pole dancing hall. | About the Author Cairns 20th January 2012 8:31pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Mike, the one from me has red/pink skin, white flesh given to me from a friend. Fruits look like the Vienamese one but much sweeter and chuppier. The friend grows in sandy soil and very limy soil in coastal Perth, it may contribute to the sweetness of the fruits. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 20th January 2012 9:17pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Well howdy jujube I remember your description of that type andprepared the spot as you suggested.At 1.4m it is my largest.I only have a couple of amber seeds left(I heard bruno has grafted ones now) so should I plant them for you? You saw things in the dry season but now everything has popped up,is sprouting,there are fruit and the beans have gone beyond beserk.I have being giving away kg's of snake beans.There is also sprouted hog plums for you,golden tumeric and a maprang with your name on it.I'm fishing on Monday so all is well at the moment. | About the Author Cairns 20th January 2012 9:36pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I have had some great little seed presents from Brendan and Wayne :) I have Speedy's capers too! And seed all the way from the US from Tom :) I think it's great that we are spreading the genetics around and taking independent ownership of our seed supplies ;-) (thanks to anyone I may have forgotten too...it's been a few years now and hard to remember?:) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 21st January 2012 11:08am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nick says... Hi Mike, could I please have a miracle fruit and yellow grumichama? Hopefully I have something that you'd like- I have rosella, okra, holy basil, bitter gourd, winged bean, papaya and pea eggplant seeds as well salak, mangosteen, achacha, tamarind and langsat seedlings (when they eventually germinate). That Carica monoica sounds very interesting, whats it like? :) | About the Author Nick T Altona, VIC 21st January 2012 11:06pm #UserID: 2663 Posts: 727 View All Nick T's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Nick that should be alright, are you after seeds or small seedlings? I got the peruvian cooking paw paw seeds from from John MC and they have germinated but I know only what can be easily googled about this species. I have the species that you mention already.Your salak wouldn't happen to be a Salacca zalacca aboina var. gula pasir from the eastern bali highlands or a Salacca wallichiana var.sala sumalee by any chance? I was fishing to see what I could offer peter from adelaide.If you have figs,white sapote seeds or cherimoya seeds at your fingertips it would be good. | About the Author Cairns 21st January 2012 11:44pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... The pink dragon fruit is superb! Much better than the others. Only down side is that mine are much smaller than the others, but probably because they are fruiting in a 175?mm pot. Should be larger in the ground when I get around to making their structure. Also seem to have fewer seeds. Took photos on my iPhone, so they are crap, but I'll see if I can upload something tonight... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 1st February 2012 9:45am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Iam delighted to hear that BJ and my pink will now jump the cue and get a prime spot.I have a chance to get several more varieties in the near future.Mine are all small now but I will share when they grow.Speaking of sharing I sent 4 parcels away this week in overnight 500g express bags.Cairns to Briz less than 24 hours,Cairns to Melbourne 3 days and counting,Cairns to north of Sydney 3 days and counting,Cairns to Sydney nearly 2 days and counting.Hope they make it guys and the unpredictability is a real pain. | About the Author Cairns 1st February 2012 5:22pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Here are the pics. As mentioned, taken on my iPhone, so they are not much good, but give an indication of the fluro pinky-purple color and size, which is around that of a decent size sapodilla. Should be larger in ground as these are still in small pots. They should make the best candidate for those wanting to grow df in pots as they are precocious, prolific and good.
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BJ says... I picked my plants up from red fox. They sit in pots against a wire fence and have been left totally to themselves. No water or ferts given for past year. Previously organic extra. They are only a few feet sprawling and I've had about 10 flowers on the two plants and all set by themselves. They are in mostly shade under young feijoa, behind a loquat. From what I saw, I think many of red fox's pink pitaya were seed grown, so there is probably a fair bit of variability in the plants. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 1st February 2012 11:26pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... ivepeters I have promised the seeds out of he few going ripe to people already.In a few weeks other bunches should go ripe and I'll get some out of those for you.Just remind me in a couple of weeks as I have a short memory. Mary good luck with that tough weather.There was an insane 13 to 24c range in Cairns today and people dressed like mawson roaming around like stunned mullet saying bullship.The news said there were big frost on the Atherton tablelands with temps to -3c. | About the Author Cairns 7th June 2012 7:06pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Another name for them is Amberella. They can be full size trees, dwarf and super (ultra) dwarf. I have a dwarf, about 1.5m high @ three years and a recently acquired ultra dwarf from my good buddy Mike, I don't know anything about the ultra's characteristics, mine's not even one year old. They would be good for pot culture in marginal areas. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 6th July 2012 7:10pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Thanks for the info. Actually I just ordered some seeds of Dwarf Ambarella - Spondias Cytherea. There seems to be several different species of Hog Plum, but the standard type is much too vigorous and grows too big. My Vietnamese friends are highly sought after this fruit, they love it so much so I'm hoping to grow some for them. But I didn't know there was an ultra dwarf type as well which I would prefer to grow in the climate here if I can find it. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 7th July 2012 6:59pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Linton don't be lured by those american congeneric imposters Spondias purpurea which also go by varietal names red,yellow and purple mombins.They do get erroneously called hog plums as well. Spondias cytherea is the old name for Spondias dulcis.Dwarfs have fruit a little smaller and leass sweet than UD's or giants. In the war and shifting power base between vegetables and fruit ambarellas played their part.Popular music has played a role in this tussle.When Al Jolson sang Mamey fruit won the day but John Lennon turned things around with Give Peas a Chance.Luckily Rhiannon sang 'Ambarella' and turned the tide to fruit once more.It is quite a conspiracy. | About the Author Cairns 11th July 2012 8:01am #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Ultra Dwarf - UD Hog Plum Wanted! Hay this is getting so complicated as the one listed for sale in Daleys shop is stated as Spondias cytherea - but it's the normal large type. But I think it gets too big so all I'm looking for, based on your information, is a seed of the Ultra Dwarf UD Hog Plum, whichever Spondias type it is. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 11th July 2012 10:24am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... How do they make a dwarf tree? I'm curious as to how the growers develop dwarf fruit trees from species that are normally large. As with the flowering gums that come in a dwarf "baby" variety which grows to about 3 metres, there's also a "mini" version which is about half the size again which must be equivalent to the ultra dwarf. I suspect it is made by repeating the same process on an already dwarf tree. And why is it that some species can be made into dwarf types and others can't? It seems like the method involves grafting from the large tree but what stops it from growing just as big again? Lastly, do the seeds of the dwarf tree also grow into dwarf trees or do they need to be grafted each time? | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 12th July 2012 10:41am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... There are different types of plants that are labelled as 'dwarf'. Some are genetic dwarves. Through breeding and selection sometimes a small growing dwarf tree is discovered. Many of these grow true from seed and are quite stable, while others require vegetative propogation, preferably onto a stable dwarf rootstock. Other 'dwarf' plants are just small growing species. Daleys makes the distinction between these in their 'dwarf' trees section, but offers them on the same page as true dwarves. The otehr way to get a dwarf is to graft a normal plant onto a smaller growing rottstock, which will reduce the vigour of the tree, creating a 'dwarf', or a tree that can be managed at a smaller size - I believe this is what they do with the flowering gums. Other rootstocks modify top growth, without effecting vigour much (like flying dragon in citrus). The seeds of a dwarf tree will only grow true if they are from a stable dwarf line. I believe the UD hog plum is one of these. A seed from a grafted dwarf wouldnt usually give you a dwarf tree, unless they are already a dwarf variety grafted for another reason, like clay resistant rootstock. | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th July 2012 1:31pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lucinda says... Mike, you're welcome. The peperomia plants you gave me are dead. I put them in a pot and left the pot in the garden when the weather in Sydney is still quite cold. I'm very sad that I can't take good care of them. The pepper vine leaves turn black and drop. Do you think they will come back in spring? | About the Author Lucinda 17th August 2012 8:43pm #UserID: 7070 Posts: 12 View All Lucinda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Lucinda it is better to get those touchy ones in Summer.If you give the pepper a good burial, even with an indoor potplant it could pull through.If there were some tiny seed heads on the peperomia throw them with a moist shadey potplant as well.Remind me in summer and we'll do it all again.Once established they can handle cold way better. I hope there will be a few survivors. | About the Author Cairns 17th August 2012 8:48pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lucinda says... Thanks, Mike. I still keep 2 cuttings of the pepper vine in a cup of water near the kitchen's window. The leaves are still green. I'll wait until the weather is warmer, then put them in a pot. Hope they will grow for me. Luckily I keep the UD hog plum inside. Some leaves drop but they still look happy. | About the Author Lucinda 17th August 2012 9:03pm #UserID: 7070 Posts: 12 View All Lucinda's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Wow Mike, parcel arrived today - thankyou so much! Not long home, and have excitedly been going through package like a child at Christmas. Thanks for the selection, there's many things there I've been meaning to get,(and more), so I'm thrilled. Now, time to get my herb book out, and start identifying though I think I can guess a few. (They all seem ok and will be potted up first thing in morning). BTW, is the varigated maize used in a special way (sorry for my ignorance)? | About the Author VF Wongawallan 17th August 2012 10:30pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... VF I can't remember what I tossed in for ambarella ballast.I think variegated coleus,vietnamese mint,lemon basil,peperomia,sweet leaf seeds, maybe celon spinach seeds,jujube knows the real name of green tumeric and maybe red shiso or perennial coriander.They will most likely be some of those. | About the Author Cairns 17th August 2012 10:53pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... Mike do you have Curcuma xanthorrhiza ? Also called Temulawak or Java Turmeric . Pictured here a cut rhizhome of it , nearly blue colour does not show up well .Similar growth habit to C australasica but with red stripe on leaf .. not flowered mine yet . Getting a little collection going here of these . C. rubescens has very colourful red stems and is just pretty in the garden , much like C roscoena . Got a few of the decorative Thai flowering ones also .
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Mike says... Trikus yes I have that species but it looks different from yours.Mine has no leaf stripes,does not look like that when cut and the rhizomes are huge.It does look like a giant form of C.australasica and even has flowers that look similar but way larger.It has died back now and will send up flowers when the wet season begins. | About the Author Cairns 19th August 2012 2:00am #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Curcuma aeruginosa: I got the name from the Vienamese website then double check with this blog http://cinafong-myobsessionmycompulsion.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/kunyit-hitammay-force-be-with-you.html Beautiful colour inside but VERY bitter | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 20th August 2012 9:33pm #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... trikus the small kind just looks like green/blue fleshed tumeric and is C.aeruginosa but I don't have the plant growing.The larger one is quite different with large spherical rhizomes that are very white is C.xanthorhhiza and I was just showing the difference in the corms.C.xanthorhiza can be taller than a person and doesn't look closely related to C.aeruginosa. | About the Author Cairns 22nd August 2012 12:48pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Athony as BJ points out there are a number of 'parallel' varieties already here.I know of one person with some americans.I don't have any planted and if some came to me I probably wouldn't plant them because I'd have to pull up my existing ones to make room.There may be a certain level of inevitability that the best types will come in time. | About the Author Cairns 30th June 2013 9:05am #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author fruit365ayear bedford park adelaide 28th September 2013 3:34pm #UserID: 8237 Posts: 8 View All fruit365ayear's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Russ3 EARLVILLE,4870,QLD 18th January 2014 8:31pm #UserID: 9305 Posts: 19 View All Russ3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Mike Tr Cairns 19th January 2014 9:55am #UserID: 8322 Posts: 614 View All Mike Tr's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Russ3 says... I'm at a crossroad in my life at the moment. I've been in a serious accident a few years back, now since I can't work it's left me ripping my hair out with nothing to do, I asked my partner if I could get a mango tree to go with my pineapple and then that was it, the start of my fruit tree fetish. I never thought I'd ever get sucked into my garden but it takes my mind off the constant throbbing when I'm plotting around with my babies out there. I just like seeing what's out there and always interested in adding a few more rare beauty's. I don't know to much about the different fruits all around the world so if I kind of rely on the experiences of others for suggestions. I noticed your in Cairns and thought if you trade and sell I'm interested in seeing what's available. I apologize if I sound intrusive. Russ | About the Author Russ3 EARLVILLE,4870,QLD 19th January 2014 9:05pm #UserID: 9305 Posts: 19 View All Russ3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Mike Tr Cairns 19th January 2014 9:21pm #UserID: 8322 Posts: 614 View All Mike Tr's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Russ3 EARLVILLE,4870,QLD 19th January 2014 9:28pm #UserID: 9305 Posts: 19 View All Russ3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Mike Tr Cairns 19th January 2014 9:48pm #UserID: 8322 Posts: 614 View All Mike Tr's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Mike Tr Cairns 19th January 2014 10:23pm #UserID: 8322 Posts: 614 View All Mike Tr's Edible Fruit Trees |
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