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Pulasan and Durio macrantha are not fruits you see every day.I ate some on the weekend and they were great.
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Carl76 says...
Nice, no smell to that one I hear.
Is it one of the Marshall progeny ?
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Mike X says...
There is an aroma but milder than zibethinus.They are all derived from the fruit Marshall brought back but all fruiting trees are on one property,The pulasan is from Marshall.
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VF says...
Impressive looking Pulasan - looks like a Red Sea-urchin. Looking like Rambutan internally. Is there much taste difference?

I've still yet to try Durian, but the creamy white flesh looks appealing, and if the aroma is less pungent than most varieties, it sounds like it would be a promising variety as an introduction. Are there plans to propagate more, so it becomes a little more accessible?
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Mike X says...
VF the pulasans taste a bit better than rambutans,have more flesh and the seed doesn't stick.Durio macrantha is mild in taste and aroma and there are only a few trees left and maybe none in the wild.
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VF says...
The Pulasan description sounds good, I'll try some if I ever see them - I think the seed membrane sticking in Rambutans is a turnoff ( especially with their price) so I've stopped buying them.

I bet you have good homes lined up for any seeds of the durian. Seems like a good environmental and culinary project.
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Mike X says...
They are close to D.zibethinus and seeds were sent overseas where they could be more secure.
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VF says...
Wise move in light of TC Ita moving in. Hope for sake of all FNQ that cyclone not as bad as predicted.
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Mike Tr says...
We could have some wind problems on Friday and Saturday.Winds should not exceed 280km/hr anywhere but that is plenty.
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MaryT says...
Hope everything is tied down, Mike. Take care.
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Mike Tr says...
Well winds are already over 280km/hr and it is cat 5.I am not really in the mood for it coming my way.I might have to leave work early tomorrow and baton down the hatches.I hope the power isn't off for a week and damage to property isn't too bad.
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JohnMc1 says...
I posted this on my FB page while in Indo:

OK, for those of you that are Durian inadequate.
Pic 1 is the fruit itself. The spines are as hard and as sharp as they look, like steel. One of these could have fallen on my head yesterday when I was looking for them in the jungle.
Pic 2 The fruit is divided into sections that you should be able to wedge apart with your hands.
Pic 3 Is the stuff you eat, the texture is very creamy, custardy like, but most westerners don't like the strong taste, as some Balinese, I think, have got use to the city food.
I can't get enough of it.
These three fruits are from the farmer we met yesterday, doesn't come any fresher than that. (6 photos)
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sternus1 says...
I think what gets me about it mainly is that it doesn't taste like a fruit. I mean it smells like arse, too--but yeah, it tastes savory, like old onions almost.
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JohnMc1 says...
I had to limit myself to 1 fruit per day. The Balinese said not good to have too much, belly gets hot. Durian has nothing on Noni, bloody hell, that's exactly what I said when I tasted it for the first time. There was a lot of ripe Noni laying around on the jungle floor. The pungent taste and smell of Noni is ten times that of Durian, almost inedible, but, apparently it has a lot of health benefits. You certainly wouldn't be eating it for pleasure that's for sure.
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Mike Tr says...
John they look like really small durians. Did you get a variety name?
Noni is pretty ordinary and at the other end of the desirability scale. I chopped my tree down.
Sternus, avocadoes, pumpkin, limes and many other fruit don't taste like what people think fruit should be like and are popular.
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sternus1 says...
True, but none of them offer the unique brand of unmitigated olfactory and general sensory insult that Durian does. Another difference is that all those you mention actually are popular with consumers--Durian will never achieve this. Irregardless I respect and defend your right and the right of all Durianadoes to eat Durian with impunity.
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Mike Tr says...
Sternus it is like the call of the siren and who can resist that? What is a mermaid for many could be just a dugong for you.Durian is a big time crop for a reason.
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sternus1 says...
haha yes, well let's just say that there has been times when this seadog has gone to bed with a mermaid and woken up to a dugong--cursed mead!

I'll say this about Durian; even though I don't like it, the texture might be the best of any fruit.

I'm looking for mossman/bernicker seeds if you've got any stashed away. There might be a certain variegated banana arriving if I can get them...

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JohnMc1 says...
Mike, I picked small because I had no-one to share with, the Mrs tried her best a couple of times, I admired her willingness, and I wasn't going to waste any. I checked the fruit stem knuckle for the clean break before buying. This pic might be a better representation of the crop in Indo. A typical roadside fruit stop. Small Durians like the previous pictured were $A2.00 to $A3.50 each, beautiful fresh mangosteens, never seen them so fresh, you can easily crush them open with your hands, $A2.50 for 8.
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sternus1 says...
fwoooar! Look at those mangosteen and (langsat?). 2.50$ for eight....I'd probably pitch a tent outside the stall.
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Mike Tr says...
John this is boni salak which is the second good type to chase that has some cold tolerance.Ihave a couple of seedlings.
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JohnMc1 says...
Bewdiful. The ones I tried, fresh off the tree, were chewy but pleasant.
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Bangkok says...
Mike are laplae duriantree's growing smaller then the others?

I have the plan to grow a grafted tree in a 200 litre pot, do you think that'll work?

Laplae's are in season now.
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MIke T1 says...
Not much smaller than most durian BK and macrantha is probably the smallest.You will need to eat a ,it of fruit to get a few seeds as they are mostly seedless.They are also very expensive so you might need to stake out a bin near the right stall at or tor kor if you are not flushed with cash.
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Bangkok says...
I think i can find a grafted laplae so maybe that grows more compact? I just want another special tree and already have a mongthong.

Yes the or-tor-kor has loads of them now, 700 baht a kg if i saw that right. Some months ago it was much more.

But i would just offer them money for seeds so they would find them for me. Do you still want laplae seeds?

I also have connections in Chiang mai area who i can ask.

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MIke T1 says...
Yes I want laplae seeds alright of both types.The seeds are more egg shaped and regular than common durian seeds.10 fruit for one seed is the ratio you would be looking at.Chang mai might have a few I guess as laplae is a few hundred km away but on the main bus and truck drag. Bangkok would have most.
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Bangkok says...
Okay Mike i will try to get them from the or-tor-kor. I saw many stands who had them , even in the supermarket.

I told the vendors at the or-tor-kor that i 'm a grouptour guide and if they cheat me one more time i won't send my groups there anymore haha. Since then they treat me more serious and even wai to me.



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MIke T1 says...
They will cheat you and you will receive chanee seeds.It is not in their nature to do the right thing by you.
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Bangkok says...
hmmm yes that's possible if i offer money for seeds.

So i have to see myself from which durian they came.

I will try it and see what happens. I only take seeds that for sure came from a laplae and i want to see them come out myself.

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Bangkok says...
Mike grafted laplae is no problem to buy for me, i know where they have them in BKK.

But also where they have grafted pulasan from Suratthani and i have the biggest one haha. It has to grow under shadenet for 6 months and i also have very special soil for it.
They are not called ngoh kon san in thailand, no idea where that came from.

I will try to get seeds of laplae this week..I have very good contacts now.
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MIke T1 says...
They look very similar.Seechomphu us the next best thai rambutan.I need some seeds of those seedless durians.
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Bangkok says...
Mike does a rambutan rongrien tree look exactly the same as a pulasan?

I think they sold me another rongrien but not sure, i 'll go ask them tomorrow.

The one i bought is called ngoh loerian but the thai pronounce that the same as rongrien....

Also i have rongriens now who do stick to the seed, the skin around the seed sticks to the flesh, not the whole seed but they come from the same shop who sold me nonstick rongriens the day before.

Well i 'll buy one in singapore anyway and every other tree i see there.

getting tired of this all, i want to eat my own grown fruit.
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MIke T1 says...
Rongrien do stick a little to the testa.Pulasan trees are not exactly like rambutan but close.
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Bangkok says...
Thanks Mike,
Maybe they stick to the seed when they get older being picked? It's weird because i liked them so much that next day i bought another kg in the same shop and they all cling to that seedskin which ruins the party.


Well spread the news, i offer 100 euro for a grafted pulasan seebabat delivered in Bangkok. I will tell all shops today, let's see how long it takes.
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Bangkok says...
Mike do you know if Pulasan seebabat is the same as pulasan babat from Java?

I have an airlayered one from there and some black fruit seedlings going from Singapore.

I really hope i grow the right one....
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Farouk says...
I think this is one of the best fruit market photos I ever seen - beautiful!
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