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Brad starts with ...
Talking to the owner of my next house, she called a lime tree what I'd thought was a mandarin. I'm now confident it's a rangpur lime (sour mandarin). Anyone grow these and able to tell me how they use the fruit?

Down the track are there citrus that should / should not be grafted on it (additionally)? Perhaps mandarins as I've already got 3 potted lime trees: Tahitian west Indian and sunrise, and an as yet unidentified orange (i'd like valencia) There's also other citrus in the ground at the new place
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
There is a link here you may find useful

http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/limes.html#rangpur


Apparently they grow easily from cuttings.
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brad says...
thanks for that Phil. For such a useful sounding citrus, I'm surprised nobody here seems to have grown them. I'm looking forward to owning one. I'll be happy to try and provide cuttings / grafting material / seed to anyone I can get it to down the track.

The better than seville orange for marmalade line caught my eye. Julie - were you a marmalade maker or did you just have the tree?
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Julie says...
Brad, sorry I missed your post earlier. I planted the tree about 15 years ago, and make marmalade from it. It's not my favourite (though I like it for a change) but I make it for other people.
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Brad says...
clearly a mandarin. I squeezed the juice of one and added water (no sugar) - pretty good!
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Julie says...
Brad, I also make marmalade from my Imperial mandarin - it is delicious! Your lime would probably make really nice marmalade, with maybe a little more 'zip'.
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James says...
Hi Julie, when you make marmalade with Rangpur Lime, I would appreciate it if you mail the seeds to me. Better yet if you can/will mail me a seedling(s) or a small plant or all of the above will be great. Please tell me the cost to make it worthwhile for you, I can pay you by paypal or by other means you choose. Mahalo for your time, James
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Julie says...
James, check the post again. I have a Tahitian lime, not a Rangpur lime. I think there might be a reference to another thread, which makes it a bit confusing!
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Lachlann says...
We have a tree of rangpur lime here. At first we thought it was the worst mandarin and were going to cut it down, but then found that it made the best marmalade so the tree has risen to stardom.
Grows easy to a tidy trouble-free tree.
I have found the marmalade cooking time is less than for other marmalades. Has balanced sweet and sour notes in the marmalade, plus an orange-like fragrance.
Brazilians use it as grafting stock for oranges because of precociousness drought resistant and grows well, but the quality of the oranges is a little inferior to some other rootstocks.
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Julie says...
Lachlann, does it grow true from seed?
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Brad says...
i've got the rangpur lime. it is supposed to grow well from seed. I took a cutting a couple weeks ago to test that too and its still looking good so fingers crossed and it roots. I'll take some more later this month with hopefully some more pleasant weather. Julie - your name is on one if you want it.

only green fruit on the tree and silly me didn't harvest any seed when we first moved in and there were some ripe. James I've no idea about hawaii quarantine, are seeds in the post ok? Based on this page, I suspect you can find it locally: http://www.hawaiifruit.net/rangpur_kona_lime.htm
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Julie says...
Brad, thank you. I'm in no hurry - I already make four types of citrus marmalade. But I sort of like the idea of passing on varieties that aren't easy to get, or have gone out of fashion.

I came across a recipe today for lime shred marmalade which sounds good, so I'll try it in a couple of months. The lime marmalade I made a few years ago was very disappointing - this might be better.
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Lachlann says...
Julie I'm presuming Brad will help you out, but if you need seeds in the winter let me know, seeing as how I have one of your seville seedlings.
The rangpur marmalade is a hit with me.
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MaryT says...
Lachlann - please may I have some seeds of your Rangpur lime? I have nine Seville Orange seedlings from the seeds of the Julie Tree so I am feeling lucky. Anyone out there who want one of them please let me know. tngmry(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au
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Julie says...
Lachlann, thanks for the offer, but I will probably get seeds or a cutting from Brad. Hope the Seville is growing well.
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lachlann says...
MaryT - just found your message. No problem. Will wait til the fruit ripen in winter.
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MaryT says...
Thanks Lachlann. Citrus seems to do so well in Sydney
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Mark says...
https://secure.diggersgardenclub.com.au/pc-3184-19-rangpur-lime.aspx
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Mustakim says...
Hi joanna,
I'm from Rangpur,Bangladesh Since my great grandfather till today we export traditionally produced rangpur limes, to Tanqueray gin Ltd, UK. They produce Rangpur Gin.

http://cabbagetreefarm.blogspot.com/2009/04/rangpur-lime-marmalade.html
Marmalades are also produced.
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Brad says...
As of last night I now have rangpur seed and a batch of marmalade on the go.

Those that want seed please email my first name at anize dot org (WA people get dibs)

Lachlann if you're still around please pass on your recipe.
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Julie says...
I wonder if these have to be sown fresh, like the Seville? Or are they OK when they dry out?

And please let us know what you think of the marmalade.
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Mike says...
Rangpurs and calamondins/kumquats are really just sour mandarins with better cold tolerance than limes and were used as substitutes for limes.They are probably better for marmelade and I reckon taste a bit funny when cooked.They both are true from seeds and may be close to one of the 4 original citrus types that was domesticated thousands of years ago.
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jakfruit etiquette says...
Rangpur is regarded as a "lemandarin", or hybrid of at least two Citrus types.
Calamondin is thought to be a CitrusXFortunella(Kumquat)hybrid.
Like many Citrus types they are multiple hybrids of other types.
Citrus seed should never be dried out in the same way as in vegetable/flower seed saving.
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Mike says...
What is confusing about citrus taxonomy is that the old divisions of splitters have been retained.Genetics tells us all citrus are one variable superspecies that freely cross with each other to produce fertile offspring and that includes our microcitrus.Four types resembling mexican lime,sour mandarine, sour pomelo and citron kept in chinese gardens began citrus culture.Mutations and crosses led to fruit like oranges and lemons and the rest.It is likely that rangpur and kunquat have a genetic identity closer to the original sour mandarine line than most.
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Lachlann says...
Brad,
I use a simple scientific method for all marmalades rather than a special formula. But I do find that the rangpur fruit soften and cook faster than other citrus.
Use fresh carefully scrubbed fruit to avoid surface fungi, which are bad for the liver.
Halve fruit and save the seed in some muslin (for their pectin content).
Finely slice, cut or shred, by hand or with a food processor attachment.
Soak fruit and seeds overnight together with a little water; not at all essential, but I think it is supposed to extract more pectin.
Measure fruit volume and add sugar, 80% to 100% of fruit volume. Unfortunately reducing the sugar content makes setting more difficult.
Put a saucer in the fridge.
Heat and stir to combine sugar.
Boil down until setting point is reached, judged by putting a teaspoon of mix on a saucer in the fridge.
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Brad says...
thanks. eaten most of my first batch already. pectin in my rangpurs is high enough that i didn't need to use the seeds at all. I used 75% sugar and it set fine too. recipe used was taken from http://cabbagetreefarm.blogspot.com/2009/04/rangpur-lime-marmalade.html

oh and everyone who has tried it has liked it. I recommend this tree
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MaryT says...
Thanks Brad for kindly offering seeds. I have had success with seeds from Julie's Seville Orange but I don't think I have enough time to see her seedling to fruit, let alone starting new ones now. Good news is the fruit from the Smooth Seville blends well with my Eureka Lemon and the Colomondin and Nagami cumquats to make a super marmalade. Sets quickly too.
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Brad says...
some seed is available now. last chance for quite a while. my email is still above
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Julie says...
I had no success with Brad's seeds, but just may have been too impatient. I gave some to a friend in Donnybrook, who gave up too.

She told me the other day she reused the same seedling mix for tomatoes, and now has little citrus-looking seedlings coming up!

So I am having another go, as Brad was kind enough to send me more seed. I have put them in a warm spot, covered in plastic, so here's hoping.

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
k - mine took about eight weeks but are now all up like the hairs on a dog's back Thanks Brad!!
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VF says...
Hi Brad, the seeds have arrived and have been planted. Many thanks for your kindness.
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VF says...
Hi Brad, live update is that limes are growing now. Lost many in one night to marauding slugs and snails, but still have a few left. Lots of pellets cast about, and now the little slimy suckers are talking about "the Great Slug Massacre of 2012".Long may they remember. (Revenge was sweet! LOL)
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Julie says...
I have a couple of healthy looking Rangpur limes in pots, about 20cm high now. One has a double trunk - should I remove one of the stems? It has just started into new growth.
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Brain says...
Julie, the one with the duoble trunk, would it be 2 plants? If yes, you could consider splitting the 2.
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Julie says...
No, it divides in two a little way up the stem - it's one plant. I had a look yesterday, and the other one is the same. I haven't been paying a lot of attention to them over winter. I noticed when I gave them a feed.
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Julie says...
I'm going to repeat my question from above, as I didn't get any answers. It's probably time to repot my two Rangpurs and cut off the second branch, or it will grow into a V shape.

Can I use this as a cutting? Is this a good time to do it?
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MaryT1 says...
Julie, re pruning - I do a lot of it because my trees are all in pots; many of them are citrus - if you don't like the shape of things then yes, prune it and yes, you can use the cuttings. Alternatively you can air layer. Re V shape: it could be useful if you want to put it close to a fence so eventually you get a fan shape.
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Julie says...
Thanks Mary. I'll only be keeping one and probably do a swap with the other one. So I wanted it to look good.

I think I'll prune them - if the cuttings don't take, no loss.
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MaryT1 says...
They'll take. I put mine in a pot then into a clear plastic bag/zip lock bag then ignore them until they root. As long as you see that they're breathing (bag fogging up) all's good. I have some cinnamon cuttings still breathing since 1 June. The Chinotto orange I potted up is still alive.
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VF says...
Rangpur lime must be one of the fastest citrus's to flower from seed. A plant grown from seed from Brad just over 2 years ago is now covered with flower buds.
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Julie 1 says...
Are you going to leave them on VF? I have a Seville orange from seed, probably three years old now, which flowered this spring.

I pulled them all off.
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Markmelb says...
Dont pull off your flowers or fruit - the plant knows what it can hold - Im really impressed with the pipsqueek range on flying dragon as they hold fruit easily on such small plants - even in their first year you get a taste :)
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Brain says...
Julie, how big is your seville seedling, the one just flowered? I am trying to work out if the NODE theory applys, i.e. Citrus seedlings needs so many nodes counts. Anyway, it is impressive for a 3 yr seedling tree to bear flowers. Ditto for the rangpur?
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VF says...
I was planning on leaving the flowers. If any fruit form, I'll re-assess whether to leave on or not. I know conventionally to get plants to grow, fruit is removed in their earliest years, but size of this plant is not an issue as I'll be trying to keep it on the small side. (Mark, I like early tastes too.)
That's great about the Seville being early flowering too Julie. Hope mine will do the same next year.
Brain, I don't think a general node count applies. I have a monster of a bush lemon seedling that I cut back from about 3.5m to 1.5m this past winter. The growth on this tree is amazing and it's put on over a metres growth since and it'll be pruned again. The tree is about 3-4 yrs old. No flowers yet. (Wish my mango's would grow this fast). Maybe with the refined cv's, a specific count may apply to the variety?
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Markmelb says...
Ive had amazing success using troforte citrus fertilizer - 50+ Sublimes this year and my tahition is holding more to a large size - making Indian Lime pickle this morning i have so many :)
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Brain says...
I am excited the julie seville is flowering, it gives many of us hope. Though mine is only 10 cm, prob a few years to go, lol.

I think time + size + node + environmental conditions all has a bearing as to when citrus seedling flower, i just wish i know the exact way to get it to flower quickly.

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sean says...
Just thought I would update on some budwood Brad was kind enough to send to me. Flowering nicely now as you can see. Also I saw some Mandarin Limes for sale at Bunnings today, I wonder if these aren't in actual fact Rangpurs?
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Brain says...
I am fairly certain the mandarin limes are marketing name for the rangpurs. I recall checking the supplier website and did some cross reference on the scientific name.

Good on you for getting the flowers and hope you get some fruits soon.
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Mickeydrips says...
I was delighted to find that Brad in Gooseberry Hill and Julie in Roleystone have rangpur lime trees.
I once had one when I lived in Piesse Brook, but now I live in Fremantle.
I've not been able to find any Rangpur limes in nurseries in Perth. And I really miss it, not just for marmalade (though Seville Orange is by far the best for that), but for drinks and for cooking.
I wonder if any body can let me know how long it would be before you could get fruit from a tree started by seed or by cutting?
I know that you cannot import Rangpur limes form the eastern states. I have tried and been told they are not allowed in.
Strange, because I bought mine from Dawson's Nursery twenty hearts ago and it fruited from September to January with the juiciest and best tasting lime I've ever experienced.

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jakfruit etiquette says...
It's one of the faster types to get to fruit, 4 to 6 years and 1.5m tall. The faster you can get it bigger, the shorter the time to flower. That involves extending the growing season by at least using a poly house over winter, and re potting to larger pots as it grows.
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Julie says...
Mickey, email me at julwood at iprimus dot com dot au re Rangpur lime and Seville orange.
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Brain says...
Rangpur are readily grown from seed - in fact they are used as rootstock.
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coffeexxx says...
Would love to get my hands on Rangpur seeds - since they seem to grow pretty fast from seed. Anybody have some spare? Am also after limequat which noone seems to have.

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Chris says...
Diggers do sell the limequat.
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sternus1 says...
Diggers also stocks the poorest quality plants available for online purchase in Australia.
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coffeexxx says...
can somebody send me rangpur lime seeds? I can send a stamped self address envelope.. can swap some tree tomato seeds which are truly bizarre tomatos..
coffeexxx AT hotmail dot com

(am also after limequat seeds, bergamot orange seeds/seedlings) can also swap othr things
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george
bluemountains
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conrad maharaj says...
can you mail me a few ragpur seeds please.
used a lot of it back home.
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conrad maharaj
macleay island brisbane
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Rohini says...
Hi Rangpur Lime tubestock is available from Greenharvest.com.au. The tubes I bought were very healthy.
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