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Brad starts with ... Talking to the owner of my next house, she called a lime tree what I'd thought was a mandarin. I'm now confident it's a rangpur lime (sour mandarin). Anyone grow these and able to tell me how they use the fruit? Down the track are there citrus that should / should not be grafted on it (additionally)? Perhaps mandarins as I've already got 3 potted lime trees: Tahitian west Indian and sunrise, and an as yet unidentified orange (i'd like valencia) There's also other citrus in the ground at the new place | About the Author Brad2 Como, Perth 9th August 2010 12:04am #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... There is a link here you may find useful http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/limes.html#rangpur Apparently they grow easily from cuttings. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 15th August 2010 12:03pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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brad says... thanks for that Phil. For such a useful sounding citrus, I'm surprised nobody here seems to have grown them. I'm looking forward to owning one. I'll be happy to try and provide cuttings / grafting material / seed to anyone I can get it to down the track. The better than seville orange for marmalade line caught my eye. Julie - were you a marmalade maker or did you just have the tree? | About the Author Brad2 como, perth 15th August 2010 9:32pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 9th September 2010 7:39pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Brad2 G Hill, Perth 19th October 2010 7:15pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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James says... Hi Julie, when you make marmalade with Rangpur Lime, I would appreciate it if you mail the seeds to me. Better yet if you can/will mail me a seedling(s) or a small plant or all of the above will be great. Please tell me the cost to make it worthwhile for you, I can pay you by paypal or by other means you choose. Mahalo for your time, James | About the Author James16 Mililani, Hi. 96789 5th March 2011 9:58am #UserID: 5013 Posts: 1 View All James16's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 5th March 2011 8:41pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lachlann says... We have a tree of rangpur lime here. At first we thought it was the worst mandarin and were going to cut it down, but then found that it made the best marmalade so the tree has risen to stardom. Grows easy to a tidy trouble-free tree. I have found the marmalade cooking time is less than for other marmalades. Has balanced sweet and sour notes in the marmalade, plus an orange-like fragrance. Brazilians use it as grafting stock for oranges because of precociousness drought resistant and grows well, but the quality of the oranges is a little inferior to some other rootstocks. | About the Author Lachlann Sth Coast NSW 5th March 2011 11:17pm #UserID: 873 Posts: 33 View All Lachlann's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 6th March 2011 9:21pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... i've got the rangpur lime. it is supposed to grow well from seed. I took a cutting a couple weeks ago to test that too and its still looking good so fingers crossed and it roots. I'll take some more later this month with hopefully some more pleasant weather. Julie - your name is on one if you want it. only green fruit on the tree and silly me didn't harvest any seed when we first moved in and there were some ripe. James I've no idea about hawaii quarantine, are seeds in the post ok? Based on this page, I suspect you can find it locally: http://www.hawaiifruit.net/rangpur_kona_lime.htm | About the Author Brad2 G Hill,Perth 7th March 2011 1:28pm #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Brad, thank you. I'm in no hurry - I already make four types of citrus marmalade. But I sort of like the idea of passing on varieties that aren't easy to get, or have gone out of fashion. I came across a recipe today for lime shred marmalade which sounds good, so I'll try it in a couple of months. The lime marmalade I made a few years ago was very disappointing - this might be better. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 7th March 2011 6:34pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Lachlann Sth Coast NSW 8th March 2011 11:23pm #UserID: 873 Posts: 33 View All Lachlann's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mustakim says... Hi joanna, I'm from Rangpur,Bangladesh Since my great grandfather till today we export traditionally produced rangpur limes, to Tanqueray gin Ltd, UK. They produce Rangpur Gin. http://cabbagetreefarm.blogspot.com/2009/04/rangpur-lime-marmalade.html Marmalades are also produced.
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Mike says... Rangpurs and calamondins/kumquats are really just sour mandarins with better cold tolerance than limes and were used as substitutes for limes.They are probably better for marmelade and I reckon taste a bit funny when cooked.They both are true from seeds and may be close to one of the 4 original citrus types that was domesticated thousands of years ago. | About the Author Cairns 2nd July 2011 6:22pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jakfruit etiquette says... Rangpur is regarded as a "lemandarin", or hybrid of at least two Citrus types. Calamondin is thought to be a CitrusXFortunella(Kumquat)hybrid. Like many Citrus types they are multiple hybrids of other types. Citrus seed should never be dried out in the same way as in vegetable/flower seed saving. | About the Author 3rd July 2011 7:32am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... What is confusing about citrus taxonomy is that the old divisions of splitters have been retained.Genetics tells us all citrus are one variable superspecies that freely cross with each other to produce fertile offspring and that includes our microcitrus.Four types resembling mexican lime,sour mandarine, sour pomelo and citron kept in chinese gardens began citrus culture.Mutations and crosses led to fruit like oranges and lemons and the rest.It is likely that rangpur and kunquat have a genetic identity closer to the original sour mandarine line than most. | About the Author Cairns 3rd July 2011 8:35am #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lachlann says... Brad, I use a simple scientific method for all marmalades rather than a special formula. But I do find that the rangpur fruit soften and cook faster than other citrus. Use fresh carefully scrubbed fruit to avoid surface fungi, which are bad for the liver. Halve fruit and save the seed in some muslin (for their pectin content). Finely slice, cut or shred, by hand or with a food processor attachment. Soak fruit and seeds overnight together with a little water; not at all essential, but I think it is supposed to extract more pectin. Measure fruit volume and add sugar, 80% to 100% of fruit volume. Unfortunately reducing the sugar content makes setting more difficult. Put a saucer in the fridge. Heat and stir to combine sugar. Boil down until setting point is reached, judged by putting a teaspoon of mix on a saucer in the fridge. | About the Author Lachlann Sth Coast NSW 12th July 2011 8:58pm #UserID: 873 Posts: 33 View All Lachlann's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brad says... thanks. eaten most of my first batch already. pectin in my rangpurs is high enough that i didn't need to use the seeds at all. I used 75% sugar and it set fine too. recipe used was taken from http://cabbagetreefarm.blogspot.com/2009/04/rangpur-lime-marmalade.html oh and everyone who has tried it has liked it. I recommend this tree | About the Author Brad2 G Hill,Perth 13th July 2011 11:35am #UserID: 2323 Posts: 762 View All Brad2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT says... Thanks Brad for kindly offering seeds. I have had success with seeds from Julie's Seville Orange but I don't think I have enough time to see her seedling to fruit, let alone starting new ones now. Good news is the fruit from the Smooth Seville blends well with my Eureka Lemon and the Colomondin and Nagami cumquats to make a super marmalade. Sets quickly too. | About the Author MaryT Sydney 13th July 2011 6:18pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... I had no success with Brad's seeds, but just may have been too impatient. I gave some to a friend in Donnybrook, who gave up too. She told me the other day she reused the same seedling mix for tomatoes, and now has little citrus-looking seedlings coming up! So I am having another go, as Brad was kind enough to send me more seed. I have put them in a warm spot, covered in plastic, so here's hoping. | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 10th November 2011 8:42pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... Hi Brad, live update is that limes are growing now. Lost many in one night to marauding slugs and snails, but still have a few left. Lots of pellets cast about, and now the little slimy suckers are talking about "the Great Slug Massacre of 2012".Long may they remember. (Revenge was sweet! LOL) | About the Author VF Wongawallan 22nd September 2012 11:42pm #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT1 says... Julie, re pruning - I do a lot of it because my trees are all in pots; many of them are citrus - if you don't like the shape of things then yes, prune it and yes, you can use the cuttings. Alternatively you can air layer. Re V shape: it could be useful if you want to put it close to a fence so eventually you get a fan shape. | About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 24th July 2014 8:29am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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MaryT1 says... They'll take. I put mine in a pot then into a clear plastic bag/zip lock bag then ignore them until they root. As long as you see that they're breathing (bag fogging up) all's good. I have some cinnamon cuttings still breathing since 1 June. The Chinotto orange I potted up is still alive. | About the Author MaryT1 Sydney 24th July 2014 10:16am #UserID: 7655 Posts: 296 View All MaryT1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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VF says... I was planning on leaving the flowers. If any fruit form, I'll re-assess whether to leave on or not. I know conventionally to get plants to grow, fruit is removed in their earliest years, but size of this plant is not an issue as I'll be trying to keep it on the small side. (Mark, I like early tastes too.) That's great about the Seville being early flowering too Julie. Hope mine will do the same next year. Brain, I don't think a general node count applies. I have a monster of a bush lemon seedling that I cut back from about 3.5m to 1.5m this past winter. The growth on this tree is amazing and it's put on over a metres growth since and it'll be pruned again. The tree is about 3-4 yrs old. No flowers yet. (Wish my mango's would grow this fast). Maybe with the refined cv's, a specific count may apply to the variety? | About the Author VF WONGAWALLAN,4210,QLD 7th October 2014 7:36am #UserID: 6795 Posts: 736 View All VF's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Brain says... I am excited the julie seville is flowering, it gives many of us hope. Though mine is only 10 cm, prob a few years to go, lol. I think time + size + node + environmental conditions all has a bearing as to when citrus seedling flower, i just wish i know the exact way to get it to flower quickly. | About the Author Brain Brisbane 7th October 2014 1:57pm #UserID: 6289 Posts: 638 View All Brain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mickeydrips says... I was delighted to find that Brad in Gooseberry Hill and Julie in Roleystone have rangpur lime trees. I once had one when I lived in Piesse Brook, but now I live in Fremantle. I've not been able to find any Rangpur limes in nurseries in Perth. And I really miss it, not just for marmalade (though Seville Orange is by far the best for that), but for drinks and for cooking. I wonder if any body can let me know how long it would be before you could get fruit from a tree started by seed or by cutting? I know that you cannot import Rangpur limes form the eastern states. I have tried and been told they are not allowed in. Strange, because I bought mine from Dawson's Nursery twenty hearts ago and it fruited from September to January with the juiciest and best tasting lime I've ever experienced. | About the Author Mickeydrips Fremantle 10th July 2015 10:45pm #UserID: 12010 Posts: 1 View All Mickeydrips's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... mbuck, check the date of Brad's last post, he hasn't posted on the forum for many years. I will have some ripe Rangpur fruit fairly soon, quite a a few green fruit on the tree. I don't have plants, but could send seeds if you want to grow one. email me at: julwood at aussiebroadband dot com dot au. | About the Author Julie ROLEYSTONE,6111,WA 2nd April 2021 9:15pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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