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Seville orange rootstock

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allybanana starts with ... I am looking for the original seville orange which i have heard has been replaced in a Australia by the common seville cross pomello hybrid. They are to be grown in the ACT so the original seville from what i can gather had better cold and drought tolerance. If anyone knows of how to access seeds or plants i would be very gratfull. ally	About the Author EDEN 31st August 2010 8:25pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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Rev says... hello , id like too my old place i worked at in NNSW has seville suppliers, the local industries would make Marmalade from www.louisas.com.au but i too would like suspected or verified pure seville buy, trade or accept!	About the Author Rev North qld 31st August 2010 8:49pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees
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Julie says... ally and Rev, on another thread (which one?)I offered Seville orange seeds some time go. I've had two requests recently, but they are not quite ripe yet. I sent pics to Felicity, as she wanted to be sure it was the real Seville. Apparently the seed must not be allowed to dry out, and Felicity wants the whole fruit to make sure this doesn't happen. I feel I could wrap in damp tissue then a plastic bag, to save on postage. What do you think? I'll post in the forum when they are completely ripe.	About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 1st September 2010 8:56pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees
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J says... Daleys has a Smooth seville orange for sale, does this count as a real seville orange? Do they grow and fruit well in victoria?	About the Author J Upwey 1st September 2010 9:32pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees
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Jason says... I have a little tree of the smooth one in Southern Vic, the fruit tastes sour as.... and like marmalade :P so I guess that's how it should be	About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 2nd September 2010 12:46am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees
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J says... I'm going to place an order shortly at daleys to grab some of the wampi varieties they have so I might include the smooth seville orange in it as well. Have you used the oranges from that tree for anything, jason?	About the Author J Upwey 2nd September 2010 1:15am #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees
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Jason says... J, nope I just ate a couple and said geeeees that's a bit intense :), I'm not into cooking really	About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 2nd September 2010 2:40pm #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees
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J says... Well, It doesnt matter anyway, I woke up this morning and the 2 Smooth Seville oranges Daleys had in stock were gone. They were there yesterday and today, poof - gone. That happened to me the day before with Nightingdale Persimmons. I swear someone is messing with me :). I'm getting a Poor mans Orange from Perrys anyway. Reportedly the fruit is similar to Smooth Seville.	About the Author J Upwey 2nd September 2010 3:45pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees
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allybanana says... Julie this sounds promosing if you have been verified as true seville. i would offer to swap stuff but getting it into WA could be a problem. anyway happy to pay for postage or create $10 daleys gift voucer for you. In plastic with a bit of wet tissue is okay. I recently ordered asinina seeds from USA this way as they also cannot dry out and they stayed alive and were sprouting on arrival. allydalton.sculpture@gmail.com	About the Author Eden 5th September 2010 12:43am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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Xiem says... Home growers of seville oranges may be interested to know that SPCArdmona has now ceased production of Lackersteins seville orange marmalade. As far as I know this is (was) the only commercial marmalade made in Australia using seville oranges. Now it looks like its down to the backyarders and home jam-makers to keep up supply to the discerning ones amongst us.	About the Author Diego 1st April 2011 1:13pm #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... Julie the nine seedlings I raised from the seeds you sent are all doing well; they are now up to 8 cm high. Black thrips and leaf miners are showing interest in them so I just spray them with home made white oil. I left three fruits on my Smooth Seville when it arrived from Daleys and they are big and heavy but taking forever to colour. Luckily the cumquats are ready for making into marmalade.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 2nd April 2011 8:11am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Xiem says... I have twelve of Julie's babies one inch high (including a set of siamese twins).	About the Author Diego 2nd April 2011 9:18am #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees
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Julie says... Mary, my Seville oranges are the latest of the citrus to ripen. You have cumquats already? That would be very early for me, if my cumquat was still fruiting. It's healthy, but haven't had fruit for a few years.	About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 2nd April 2011 9:14pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... I have five cumquats; one is barren (never flowered), one has just finished flowering and bearing fruit, one has lots of good size green fruit, one has a small number of ripe fruit and one was covered in ripe fruit that's been turned into marmalade. :) I am patiently waiting for the Smooth Seville to ripen. Guess I am lucky they take their turns so I don't get a glut. I know I am being unreasonably optimistic raising seedlings, but it's nice to watch something come up from a seed.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 2nd April 2011 9:47pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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pagnr says... allybanana, you may be thinking of 'rough seville',the other common type is 'smooth seville', which has larger grapefruit size fruit.	About the Author jakfruit etiquette victoria 2nd April 2011 11:19pm #UserID: 5133 Posts: 915 View All jakfruit etiquette's Edible Fruit Trees
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David says... I've been a serious marmalade maker for many years and had a large tree in Sydney. It was Citrus aurantium "Seville", genuine old fashioned variety, thick aramatic bitter peel, sunken oil glands and pebbled rind. On arrival here I bought one and it turned out to be a smooth skinned cross, unsuitable for marmalade. I can't get a tree in Qld AHHHH. Olea Nurseries in WA have the genuine product and ship to all states except Qld. If anyone knows how I can get a tree in or to Qld please advise. David	About the Author Gold Coast 27th April 2011 10:50pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... So where in Sydney was your Seville Orange, David? LOL Seriously, are you sure that the smooth skinned variety are not suitable for marmalade? I bought one just for that purpose, oh woe.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 27th April 2011 11:15pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Jason says... I've got a tree of the "smooth" skinned one although it's not really smooth, not like a proper orange. If you eat it you can only think @#%@#%!@ that's sour, that would make good marmalade :P	About the Author Jason Portland 27th April 2011 11:31pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... I am quite heartened by your post, Jason as I have three grapefruit size oranges on my Smooth Seville which I was planning on making into marmalade. This is my first crop and I've removed most of the fruit, saving these three. Will report on result when they colour, which is taking ages.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 28th April 2011 12:29pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Dave says... I have alarge tree full of the sour seville, do you want some	About the Author Dave16 Beaudesert,Qld 8th July 2011 10:44am #UserID: 5517 Posts: 3 View All Dave16's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... I made some marmalade - the Smooth Seville is not as nice as the fruit on the old trees at Graythwaite (a property in North Sydney donated to the people of NSW but sold to a private school by the Govt.) but I mixed it with some lemons and cumquats on my other trees and the result is delicious. Dave I'd love some of your oranges if I am near you but being interstate it is a bit hard. :)	About the Author MaryT Sydney 8th July 2011 4:58pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Dave says... The tree is over 30 yrs old,4 mtrs high and about 8mtrs wide with a ton of fruit on,fruit larger than a navel,plenty of seeds, rough skin with larger lighter colour leaves than the navel	About the Author Dave16 Beaudesert Qld 9th July 2011 10:26am #UserID: 5517 Posts: 3 View All Dave16's Edible Fruit Trees
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Xiem says... Dave, if I sent you a stamped, self-addressed envelope with a plastic bag inside, could you return it with a few wet seeds? I am already growing some sevilles from the Julie tree but I wouldn't mind doing a few more from your tree if it is the rough seville.	About the Author Diego 10th July 2011 11:12am #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees
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Xiem says... This may be interesting reading for seville marmalade aficionados: http://www.lynwoodpreserves.com.au/seville-orange-marmalade/	About the Author Diego 10th July 2011 11:48am #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... Dave, a ton of fruit means two tons of marmalade! So what are you doing about it? :)	About the Author MaryT Sydney 11th July 2011 3:37pm #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Gardenpixie says... Reading these posts with interest. As a die hard marmalade maker for many years I am also wondering where i could get hold of the original rough Seville orange - tree or fruit. Also have a couple of acres and planting out my citrus at the moment. Excited at the prospect.	About the Author Gardenpixie Dunoon 18th August 2011 1:51pm #UserID: 5682 Posts: 1 View All Gardenpixie's Edible Fruit Trees
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Xiem says... Gardenpixie if you want the tree you may be able to get seeds from the Julie tree (see other seville threads on this forum) but if you are looking for the fruit you could contact the Melbourne retailer Colonial Fruit Company and ask them where they source their supplies. I have been buying sevilles from them recently that have rough skin. Maybe they just buy them at Victoria market but perhaps they have more information about the grower.	About the Author Diego 18th August 2011 4:37pm #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... Gardenpixie... In Mildura & surrounds, Seville Oranges are just left on the trees until they fall off & rot! The growers can't sell them because of Overseas oranges flooding into Australia! If you happen to drive by an orchard up here, just stop & grab what you want! ..NB:: Some Farmers do get a bit 'shirty' if you try to steal their unwanted produce. Most will ask for a few dollars, & some are glad that someone will take them away!... (you didn't think I pay for oranges did you?)	About the Author Mark27 N.W. Victoria 18th August 2011 10:33pm #UserID: 5477 Posts: 33 View All Mark27's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... "Excuse Me Peoples.".. I've just been reading som posts about making marmalade on here. I'd like to correct 1 little thing. "Any Orange" is suitable to use to make marmalade,NOT only Seville. The same can be said about ANY Citrus fruits." The only citrus unsuitable for making marmalade are those which have gone rotten or are not yet ripe. .... Of course, there will always be some varieties with a "better taste", but that is only a personal preference. There are no hard & fast rules like some seem to have written.	About the Author Mark27 N.W. Victoria 18th August 2011 10:43pm #UserID: 5477 Posts: 33 View All Mark27's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... True, any citrus would make marmalade individually or mixed but some of us who's made marmalade for decades LIKE the Seville, but obviously not everyone shares out taste. If you want Seville Orange Marmalade then you have to use Seville Oranges. You are so lucky to be able to just pick them off the ground.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 19th August 2011 6:25am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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JenP says... Hi Julie Your Seville must be fruiting & nearly ready for picking. I would love some seeds when u have spares. I will pay for the seeds, postage etc. I believe they have to be kept moist to germinate. Alternatively if anyone knows where to buy a plant (rough skin seville) I would love to know. Please contact by email chancy168@gmail.com	About the Author Jenny1 Warburton 3799 19th August 2011 9:18am #UserID: 5684 Posts: 1 View All Jenny1's Edible Fruit Trees
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Julie says... JenP, see other Seville thread for update.	About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 19th August 2011 8:41pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... Does anyone have a Marmalade recepie (for Any Citrus), but using NO Sugar? .. It must be able to be done,I'm sure.	About the Author Mark27 N.W. Victoria 25th August 2011 7:57pm #UserID: 5477 Posts: 33 View All Mark27's Edible Fruit Trees
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Julie says... Maybe Google diabetic recipes. I think you would have to use gelatine to make it set. Better than nothing for a diabetic I guess. Artificial sweeteners are really bad, so you could use Stevia or Xylitol for sweetening.	About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 25th August 2011 9:36pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... IMHO you cannot make marmalade with NO sugar. Such is the chemistry that produces the result. However, you can cook down some oranges in apple juice and sweeten it further with Stevia but the end product will not be marmalade.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 26th August 2011 7:46am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Julie says... I agree Mary - that's why I said 'better than nothing'. It won't be like real marmalade, and probably won't keep, but might satisfy a craving for a diabetic.	About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 26th August 2011 8:49pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... Julie, I have type II diabetes and I can tell you that "a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down" :) A little bit of the real thing does it for me. I give the rest away; my friends love it. It would be depressing to miss out altogether.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 27th August 2011 8:28am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Rick says... Why on earth would you use gelatin rather than standard pectin to make the marmalade set? Pectin is not a sweetener.	About the Author Chris Richmond, NSW 27th August 2011 8:40am #UserID: 2281 Posts: 263 View All Chris 's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... I have never had to add pectin to make marmalade but not sure how it would work in a NO sugar recipe. Would love someone to tell me.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 27th August 2011 8:59am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... OK, Thank's everyone for your input so far. .. Just one thing Please,if it is not too much to ask. ... If you don't know how to do it, could you please refrain from telling me it's no possible? .. I have eaten it many mant years ago & you'd never know the difference. I just never learned how to make it that way. Oh,, also, NO Pectin, & NO Gelatin, (& I don't have ant Stevia now I've moved.) "Thank You".	About the Author Mildura 5th September 2011 7:47pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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amanda says... Mark, if you google "sugar free marmalade recipes" you will get loads of different options to try :)	About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mide West WA. 5th September 2011 8:52pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees
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MaryT says... Mark, If you have eaten great marmalade made with no sugar no pectin no gelatin then there's a recipe out there for it somewhere. Sorry that we have not been able to help you ( I have tried Google). Comments on a topic are not meant to be a one-on-one conversation with the person who posted the topic, so please don't take offence. Think of it as a round table discussion; the person who started the conversation does not get to control the conversation. We do wander from the topic as this started as "Seville Orange Rootstock" posted by allybanana. Sorry - I mean it (not in inverted commas) as you seem genuinely upset. I take your point that we were not helpful.	About the Author MaryT Sydney 6th September 2011 8:36am #UserID: 5412 Posts: 2066 View All MaryT's Edible Fruit Trees
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Dave says... Xiem,Where can I send the seville seeds to.I am also after some Hasting or Maclay sweet(has anyone heard of these) gramma seeds and/or the Trombone gramma seeds, cheers Dave	About the Author Dave16 7th September 2011 12:57pm #UserID: 5517 Posts: 3 View All Dave16's Edible Fruit Trees
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Xiem says... Dave thank you very much but I might be moving soon, so I will contact you again through this forum when I am settled and know where I am! I don't want to take your seeds unless I can look after them continuously and see them through to treedom. Thanks again, much appreciated.	About the Author Diego 7th September 2011 5:35pm #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... Mary T, ... Thanks for trying for me. Apologies to you & everyone on the forum who may have taken offence at anything I have said. .. I Do tend to get a bit "snappy" at times. .. I didn't 'Google it' myself because I really don't like google & never use it. Mary, I didn't take offence at all, but I did get a bit peeved with the way some people gave answers. (I should learn to pull My head in a bit. I sometimes forget that by talking this way, we cannot see or hear each others tones. So, something emailed quite innocently can be taken the wrong way & start WW3.) .... As to the marmalade, I think that the best way For Me, is to experiment. Why not,the oranges are free!	About the Author Mildura 8th September 2011 7:54pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... Allybanana,, Please don't think i'm just being 'smart', but, if you are willing to settle for some seeds of seville oranges, Why not just go to the local grocer & buy some seville oranges. Then, enjoy the oranges as you normally would but keep the seeds from them. .. That's how I get some of my vegetable seeds. I also have one or two fruit seeds planted that have not germinated yet, that I got this way. Good Luck.	About the Author Mildura 8th September 2011 8:02pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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Mark says... J. ,, Yes,they sure do grow & fruit well here in Victoria. But don't take my word for it. .. Ask any of the growers up here in & around Mildura! Growing them is not the problem, selling them is, & now they are all just left on the trees until they fall off & rot on the ground. ... But growing them or any citrus & most fruits & veggies here, you have no problem. .. In Upwey area, you should do just as well. It is not as hot down there, but you don't get the freezing cold either.	About the Author Mildura 8th September 2011 8:10pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees
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allybanana starts with ...
I am looking for the original seville orange which i have heard has been replaced in a Australia by the common seville cross pomello hybrid. They are to be grown in the ACT so the original seville from what i can gather had better cold and drought tolerance. If anyone knows of how to access seeds or plants i would be very gratfull.

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Rev says...
hello , id like too

my old place i worked at in NNSW has seville suppliers, the local industries would make Marmalade from

www.louisas.com.au

but i too would like suspected or verified pure seville
buy, trade or accept!

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Julie says...
ally and Rev, on another thread (which one?)I offered Seville orange seeds some time go. I've had two requests recently, but they are not quite ripe yet.

I sent pics to Felicity, as she wanted to be sure it was the real Seville.

Apparently the seed must not be allowed to dry out, and Felicity wants the whole fruit to make sure this doesn't happen. I feel I could wrap in damp tissue then a plastic bag, to save on postage. What do you think?

I'll post in the forum when they are completely ripe.

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J says...
Daleys has a Smooth seville orange for sale, does this count as a real seville orange? Do they grow and fruit well in victoria?

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Jason says...
I have a little tree of the smooth one in Southern Vic, the fruit tastes sour as.... and like marmalade :P so I guess that's how it should be

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J says...
I'm going to place an order shortly at daleys to grab some of the wampi varieties they have so I might include the smooth seville orange in it as well. Have you used the oranges from that tree for anything, jason?

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Jason says...
J, nope I just ate a couple and said geeeees that's a bit intense :), I'm not into cooking really

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J says...
Well, It doesnt matter anyway, I woke up this morning and the 2 Smooth Seville oranges Daleys had in stock were gone. They were there yesterday and today, poof - gone. That happened to me the day before with Nightingdale Persimmons. I swear someone is messing with me :). I'm getting a Poor mans Orange from Perrys anyway. Reportedly the fruit is similar to Smooth Seville.

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allybanana says...
Julie this sounds promosing if you have been verified as true seville. i would offer to swap stuff but getting it into WA could be a problem. anyway happy to pay for postage or create $10 daleys gift voucer for you. In plastic with a bit of wet tissue is okay. I recently ordered asinina seeds from USA this way as they also cannot dry out and they stayed alive and were sprouting on arrival. allydalton.sculpture@gmail.com

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Xiem says...
Home growers of seville oranges may be interested to know that SPCArdmona has now ceased production of Lackersteins seville orange marmalade. As far as I know this is (was) the only commercial marmalade made in Australia using seville oranges. Now it looks like its down to the backyarders and home jam-makers to keep up supply to the discerning ones amongst us.

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MaryT says...
Julie the nine seedlings I raised from the seeds you sent are all doing well; they are now up to 8 cm high. Black thrips and leaf miners are showing interest in them so I just spray them with home made white oil.

I left three fruits on my Smooth Seville when it arrived from Daleys and they are big and heavy but taking forever to colour. Luckily the cumquats are ready for making into marmalade.

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Xiem says...
I have twelve of Julie's babies one inch high (including a set of siamese twins).

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Julie says...
Mary, my Seville oranges are the latest of the citrus to ripen. You have cumquats already? That would be very early for me, if my cumquat was still fruiting. It's healthy, but haven't had fruit for a few years.

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MaryT says...
I have five cumquats; one is barren (never flowered), one has just finished flowering and bearing fruit, one has lots of good size green fruit, one has a small number of ripe fruit and one was covered in ripe fruit that's been turned into marmalade. :) I am patiently waiting for the Smooth Seville to ripen. Guess I am lucky they take their turns so I don't get a glut.

I know I am being unreasonably optimistic raising seedlings, but it's nice to watch something come up from a seed.

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pagnr says...
allybanana, you may be thinking of 'rough seville',the other common type is 'smooth seville', which has larger grapefruit size fruit.

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David says...
I've been a serious marmalade maker for many years and had a large tree in Sydney. It was Citrus aurantium "Seville", genuine old fashioned variety, thick aramatic bitter peel, sunken oil glands and pebbled rind. On arrival here I bought one and it turned out to be a smooth skinned cross, unsuitable for marmalade. I can't get a tree in Qld AHHHH. Olea Nurseries in WA have the genuine product and ship to all states except Qld. If anyone knows how I can get a tree in or to Qld please advise. David

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MaryT says...
So where in Sydney was your Seville Orange, David? LOL Seriously, are you sure that the smooth skinned variety are not suitable for marmalade? I bought one just for that purpose, oh woe.

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Jason says...
I've got a tree of the "smooth" skinned one although it's not really smooth, not like a proper orange. If you eat it you can only think @#%@#%!@ that's sour, that would make good marmalade :P

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MaryT says...
I am quite heartened by your post, Jason as I have three grapefruit size oranges on my Smooth Seville which I was planning on making into marmalade. This is my first crop and I've removed most of the fruit, saving these three. Will report on result when they colour, which is taking ages.

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Dave says...
I have alarge tree full of the sour seville, do you want some

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MaryT says...
I made some marmalade - the Smooth Seville is not as nice as the fruit on the old trees at Graythwaite (a property in North Sydney donated to the people of NSW but sold to a private school by the Govt.) but I mixed it with some lemons and cumquats on my other trees and the result is delicious.

Dave I'd love some of your oranges if I am near you but being interstate it is a bit hard. :)

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Dave says...
The tree is over 30 yrs old,4 mtrs high and about 8mtrs wide with a ton of fruit on,fruit larger than a navel,plenty of seeds, rough skin with larger lighter colour leaves than the navel

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Xiem says...
Dave, if I sent you a stamped, self-addressed envelope with a plastic bag inside, could you return it with a few wet seeds? I am already growing some sevilles from the Julie tree but I wouldn't mind doing a few more from your tree if it is the rough seville.

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Xiem says...
This may be interesting reading for seville marmalade aficionados:

http://www.lynwoodpreserves.com.au/seville-orange-marmalade/

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MaryT says...
Dave, a ton of fruit means two tons of marmalade! So what are you doing about it? :)

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Gardenpixie says...
Reading these posts with interest. As a die hard marmalade maker for many years I am also wondering where i could get hold of the original rough Seville orange - tree or fruit. Also have a couple of acres and planting out my citrus at the moment. Excited at the prospect.

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Xiem says...
Gardenpixie if you want the tree you may be able to get seeds from the Julie tree (see other seville threads on this forum) but if you are looking for the fruit you could contact the Melbourne retailer Colonial Fruit Company and ask them where they source their supplies. I have been buying sevilles from them recently that have rough skin. Maybe they just buy them at Victoria market but perhaps they have more information about the grower.

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Mark says...
Gardenpixie... In Mildura & surrounds, Seville Oranges are just left on the trees until they fall off & rot! The growers can't sell them because of Overseas oranges flooding into Australia! If you happen to drive by an orchard up here, just stop & grab what you want! ..NB:: Some Farmers do get a bit 'shirty' if you try to steal their unwanted produce. Most will ask for a few dollars, & some are glad that someone will take them away!... (you didn't think I pay for oranges did you?)

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Mark says...
"Excuse Me Peoples.".. I've just been reading som posts about making marmalade on here. I'd like to correct 1 little thing. "Any Orange" is suitable to use to make marmalade,NOT only Seville. The same can be said about ANY Citrus fruits." The only citrus unsuitable for making marmalade are those which have gone rotten or are not yet ripe. .... Of course, there will always be some varieties with a "better taste", but that is only a personal preference. There are no hard & fast rules like some seem to have written.

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MaryT says...
True, any citrus would make marmalade individually or mixed but some of us who's made marmalade for decades LIKE the Seville, but obviously not everyone shares out taste.

If you want Seville Orange Marmalade then you have to use Seville Oranges. You are so lucky to be able to just pick them off the ground.

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JenP says...
Hi Julie
Your Seville must be fruiting & nearly ready for picking. I would love some seeds when u have spares. I will pay for the seeds, postage etc. I believe they have to be kept moist to germinate. Alternatively if anyone knows where to buy a plant (rough skin seville) I would love to know. Please contact by email chancy168@gmail.com

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Julie says...
JenP, see other Seville thread for update.

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Mark says...
Does anyone have a Marmalade recepie (for Any Citrus), but using NO Sugar? .. It must be able to be done,I'm sure.

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Julie says...
Maybe Google diabetic recipes. I think you would have to use gelatine to make it set. Better than nothing for a diabetic I guess.

Artificial sweeteners are really bad, so you could use Stevia or Xylitol for sweetening.

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MaryT says...
IMHO you cannot make marmalade with NO sugar. Such is the chemistry that produces the result. However, you can cook down some oranges in apple juice and sweeten it further with Stevia but the end product will not be marmalade.

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Julie says...
I agree Mary - that's why I said 'better than nothing'. It won't be like real marmalade, and probably won't keep, but might satisfy a craving for a diabetic.

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MaryT says...
Julie, I have type II diabetes and I can tell you that "a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down" :) A little bit of the real thing does it for me. I give the rest away; my friends love it. It would be depressing to miss out altogether.

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Rick says...
Why on earth would you use gelatin rather than standard pectin to make the marmalade set?
Pectin is not a sweetener.

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MaryT says...
I have never had to add pectin to make marmalade but not sure how it would work in a NO sugar recipe. Would love someone to tell me.

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Mark says...
OK, Thank's everyone for your input so far. .. Just one thing Please,if it is not too much to ask. ... If you don't know how to do it, could you please refrain from telling me it's no possible? .. I have eaten it many mant years ago & you'd never know the difference. I just never learned how to make it that way. Oh,, also, NO Pectin, & NO Gelatin, (& I don't have ant Stevia now I've moved.) "Thank You".

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amanda says...
Mark, if you google "sugar free marmalade recipes" you will get loads of different options to try :)

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MaryT says...
Mark, If you have eaten great marmalade made with no sugar no pectin no gelatin then there's a recipe out there for it somewhere. Sorry that we have not been able to help you ( I have tried Google).

Comments on a topic are not meant to be a one-on-one conversation with the person who posted the topic, so please don't take offence. Think of it as a round table discussion; the person who started the conversation does not get to control the conversation. We do wander from the topic as this started as "Seville Orange Rootstock" posted by allybanana.

Sorry - I mean it (not in inverted commas) as you seem genuinely upset. I take your point that we were not helpful.

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Dave says...
Xiem,Where can I send the seville seeds to.I am also after some Hasting or Maclay sweet(has anyone heard of these) gramma seeds and/or the Trombone gramma seeds, cheers Dave

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Xiem says...
Dave thank you very much but I might be moving soon, so I will contact you again through this forum when I am settled and know where I am! I don't want to take your seeds unless I can look after them continuously and see them through to treedom. Thanks again, much appreciated.

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Mark says...
Mary T, ... Thanks for trying for me. Apologies to you & everyone on the forum who may have taken offence at anything I have said. .. I Do tend to get a bit "snappy" at times. .. I didn't 'Google it' myself because I really don't like google & never use it. Mary, I didn't take offence at all, but I did get a bit peeved with the way some people gave answers. (I should learn to pull My head in a bit. I sometimes forget that by talking this way, we cannot see or hear each others tones. So, something emailed quite innocently can be taken the wrong way & start WW3.) .... As to the marmalade, I think that the best way For Me, is to experiment. Why not,the oranges are free!

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Mark says...
Allybanana,, Please don't think i'm just being 'smart', but, if you are willing to settle for some seeds of seville oranges, Why not just go to the local grocer & buy some seville oranges. Then, enjoy the oranges as you normally would but keep the seeds from them. .. That's how I get some of my vegetable seeds. I also have one or two fruit seeds planted that have not germinated yet, that I got this way. Good Luck.

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Mark says...
J. ,, Yes,they sure do grow & fruit well here in Victoria. But don't take my word for it. .. Ask any of the growers up here in & around Mildura! Growing them is not the problem, selling them is, & now they are all just left on the trees until they fall off & rot on the ground. ... But growing them or any citrus & most fruits & veggies here, you have no problem. .. In Upwey area, you should do just as well. It is not as hot down there, but you don't get the freezing cold either.

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