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Chilean Guava (Ugni molinae)

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Anyone here grow Chilean guavas? If so, has yours fruited yet? I have a little hedge of them, but mine are still young, smallish plants. Are yours in the shade or part-shade or full sun? How long did it take for yours to fruit, and how big were they? I am getting impatient already LOL
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Don Cooper says...
I've had two for about 5 years. Planted between house and fence, so in the shade for most of the day. No fruit, so a couple of weeks ago, I dug them up and moved them to a sunnier spot. They get to keep the sunnier spot if they fruit by the end of next year. Otherwise they're headed for the compost heap.
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Brad says...
Hi,
I read that Myrtus Ugni, Ugni Molinae, Chilean Guava or a heap of other names are supposed to fruit in their 3rd year adding 1kg of yield per year. Some set some fruit in their 2nd year. I don't know if that is in full sun, but assume its for producers so probably so.

Someone from Daleys planted one according to http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/newsletter/october2001.htm
so I'd love it if they can tell us if and how much fruit it produced. Also what do they taste like (sherbet bombs if you believe one description I read)?

I came here trying to find out if and how you should prune them in first few years while they are growing before fruiting. I eventually want a hedge but am not sure whether to prune regularly (like lavender) or leave it to be pruned after fruiting. If I can't get advice, I'll do the latter, although I'm tempted to try propogate cuttings.

Thanks for any and all help,
Brad
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peter says...
does anybody know what the ideal
soil ph for these plants is.
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Edward says...
Hi
I planted several bushes about 3 or 4 years ago. Those which are in part shade have grown to about 60 cm high, but look a bit straggly and show no sign of flowers. Those in full sun look more healthy and have just, finally, produced a lot of flowers and now have small berries. I am now waiting for the berries to grow to maturity so I can taste them.
My conclusion is that Myrtus Ugni needs full sun, and so I'll be transplanting the other bushes.
As for soil pH, I think my soil is fairly neutral (pH7).

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peter says...
thanks for that.
they also like to be kept moist.
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Leona says...
Thanks heaps for that - I will be replanting mine in a full sun position too!
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Edward says...
That's very funny. Perhaps we should tell my plants that full sun is really bad for them. I have since checked on the internet and found that indeed these plants like full sun, though some commented that part shade is also OK.

As for transplanting them (Leona), I did transplant one of my plants about 70cm high in autumn, trimmed the branches, but the plant lost most of its leaves over winter. However, I cotninued to water it regularly and it is now coming back to full leaf. These plants are pretty tough. Also easy to grow from cuttings.
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Teddy says...
Have chilean guava growing in Tassie.They have fruited in the first year,and are growing well in dry conditions in full sun.
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Edward says...
I also had fruit this year in Sydney, but I wasn't sure when it was meant to be eaten. I think I waited too long because they became very dry and hard to eat - virtually seeds inside the skin. Does anyone know when to pick the berries and how they are meant to taste?
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Brad says...
I've now lost 2 of these plants in successive years right at the tail-end of the Perth summer. 2 cuttings I propagated are alive in pots on a very shaded verandah. Anybody managed to get Chilean Guavas to fruit in Perth (hot summer)? If so please describe soil, sun/shade, water, fertilizer etc

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amanda says...
I agree - there can be just too much sun in the West! I have 3x 2yr olds - one dropped dead for no apparent reason this summer. Mine are in full sun + water 2x week (summer) No flowers yet. They (2) are healthy but as it's windy here i am considering pruning mine until the trunk and root system is stronger. I suspect the death was due to a bit of root rot and then strong winds finished the job - but "sudden death syndrome" has been rife up here this summer. I am impressed that u have done so well in Tassie Teddy - I think that says alot about this little plant!?
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amanda says...
So Teddy - you have gone quiet...are u going to tell u more about your Ugni's? It would seem you have a botanically advanced one - or a very green finger?
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rose says...
they grow well over here - fruited in semi shade in its third year - left the fruit on until it turned pale again and the taste was amazing
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Hi rose - lucky u!! I'm totally green cos' i can't wait to try mine! I was raised in Ngaio - where r u? Tell us more about what u have done with it please? - NZ is a completely different gardening environment to OZ - maybe we can learn something?
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Brad says...
A landscaper friend was telling me on the weekend that a house in Cottesloe (Perth beach suburb) had lots of ugnis in full shade (south side of a wall) and they were growing very well. But will they fruit (much)?
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Lacebark says...
I ate chilean guava from my Granny's garden in New Plymouth (NZ) for years as a child, and have been chasing them lately in Perth.
They taste something like intense strawberry with cranberry flavour, sweet with a little acid. They are also called NZ Cranberry, I guess for that reason.
She had them growing in full sun, in a sheltered position. Soils ? Loads of bulk organic matter mixed in before planting, and a deep mulch after to buffer the heat in summer, I'm guessing.
I plan to plant a hedge on the sse side of the house, avoiding the late summer afternoon sun.
I am chasing plants in Perth, so if anyone knows where I can buy from, that would help.
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Brad says...
since Daleys state they seek propagation material, hopefully they don't mind me mentioning other suppliers.
I found some ugni's at wandilla nursery on welshpool rd. They had been there a while at the time. Diggers also had them. You'd have to check with both to see if they have them now
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Julie says...
Phoenix Seeds have seed of Ugni. No idea how long they would take to grow from seed. phnxseed at ozemail dot com dot au for a catalogue.

They have lots of interesting plants if, like me, you enjoy the challenge of growing from seed.

Do they need a lot of water?
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Lacebark says...
Thanks for the info; I've got cuttings going from 2 plants I bought last year, but the source is now unknown due to the plant being deleted from the retailer's stock, so now to Plan B... if the cuttings don't work, I'm off to Wandilla.
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CA says...
Hi,
I got a Chilean Guava from diggers about three years ago. I am growing it in a pot, grows well, but has never flowered. Does anyone know what I can do to make it flower?
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meow says...
Hi,
I want to plant one of these- does anyone know a good time of year to plant them in Melb? Should I wait till next Spring or could I plant one now? Diggers have them in stock so I'm keen...
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meow says...
Okay- I went to my local nursery and bought a chilean guava today. They said it's fine to plant now just to water lots through the heat (if we have more coming in Melb- it's cold!).

Anyway- they had two types. One regular Chilean Guava that said on the tag it can grow up to 5m and another called Cherrie Berrie (some branded name) thathad 60cm listed as it's height. Given I wanted a little shrub I went for the Cherrie Berrie.

But here's the thing- it's real name is Mrytus (I'm presuming they mean Myrtus) Ugni which just makes it a regular Chilean Guava. Anyone know anything about Cherrie Berries and whether it will infact grow small or if it'll need cutting just like the regular Chilean Guava?
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CA says...
Hi Meow,
That is interesting, my Chilean Guava from diggers said that it will grow 2m. I have had it about three years in a pot and it isn't even 1m tall. According to Wikepidea "The Ugni is a shrub from 30 cm to 170 cm tall with evergreen foliage. In some exceptional cases the shrub can grow up to 3 m in height. "
So I would guess it will stay pretty small.
Is yous flowering?
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j says...
I picked about 4 chilean guava's up from Bunnings pick me edibles section for 10$ each.

CA, mine have flowered but no fruit. I have put them in bigger pots and used Citrus fertilizer of all things and they have grown a good ten or so centimetres bigger since in a 3 month period. They will be going into the ground during autumn. Also, they seem to be fine with full sunlight.

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meow says...
Thanks CA- I'm starting to think mine may grow bigger than 60cm (which is fine) and surely the other one was never going to grow to 5m?? Maybe that's how tall it *could* grow in extreme situations?
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meow says...
Ohh- scratch that! I just had another look. It's not flowering and it says it'll grow up to 2m (still less than the other one that said 5m)! I was mixing up the 60cm with a dwarf pomegranate I also bought.
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CA says...
That sounds good Meow. I also have dwarf pomegranate in a pot. I have had it about a year and a half. It produces several small sized fruit. I just haven't been able to work out when they are fully ripe yet!:)

Thanks J. What month did you CG flower?
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meow says...
Off topic with the dwarf pomegranate but I don't think the fruit is edible is it?
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amanda says...
Hi CA, my chiliean guavas are the same (not from diggers tho') they are coming up for 3 yrs are about 60cm high and in full sun. I have never seen a flower as yet. I have strawberry guavas in the same bed that are flowering and fruiting well - so I don't think it is a soil problem.
Maybe they take ages (or worse - they are like the generic brand feijoas at Bunnings that don't do anything? :(
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CA says...
Thanks Amanda,
If it doesn't flower this spring it is off to the compost for my Chilean Guava!
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Brad says...
a few sources have said they take 3 years. I also recently saw an american site saying they like slight acid soils, which I'd not seen before.

My cousin was telling me he saw a great bunch of these plants fruiting away in cottesloe (Perth beach suburb), but I'm yet to see them flower or fruit
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amanda says...
Thanks Brad... maybe patience is they key!?
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Brad says...
well I've been working on this plant for a few years now. so here's hoping its worth it
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Amy says...
Mine grow in full sun & I got fruit in the first year after planting. They're currently in clay soil & watered regularly. I haven't given them any special treatment but they've just shot away. Must be something they liked! I'm about to take them out & replant them as part of a hedge, so hopefully the transplanting doesn't knock them around too much.
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Brad says...
thanks amy, can you post pictures of them? when do they flower / fruit? Do you know your soil pH?
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Amy says...
pH is approx 6.5-7 (checked this morning...we're literally digging them out today & replacing the old clay, so wanted to get a reading of the soil they'd been growing in up to now). Not sure if it's like this further down but it was this at the surface (the ground is heavily mulched with newspaper & bark chips, so not sure if that has an effect on pH or not).

They have finished flowering now & the fruits are still tiny. I've attached a pic of a developing fruit (taken this morning) for you to see.

***edited to add*** That fruit is, of course, very tiny (if you compare the leaf in the pic to one on your plant, you'll get a better idea of scale). At the moment, you have to look very closely to see the fruit. When they get bigger, they're more obvious (although still small).
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amanda says...
Thanks Amy - that's interesting - where did you get your plants?
Maybe it's too hot here for them. What does the fruit taste like?
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Brad says...
They're sounding more and more like they need to be grown like blueberries. Acidic soil with Peat for moisture and a dislike of intense heat.

Amanda the taste description that hooked me from Glowinski and quoted in Diggers was "sherbet bomb"
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CA says...
Thanks for the info guys. I guess that I will have to check the soil pH and start making it more acidic.
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Amy says...
Amanda...I got mine from Diggers. They have a sort of sweet strawberry taste. But more complex. Very intense. The kids adore them.

Given mine cope with the 40+ temps we sometimes get, heat probably isn't too big a factor. Mine also get exposed to some pretty strong wind from time to time. And they're in full sun. I think the key might be watering - mine are heavily mulched & watered regularly.
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amanda says...
Thanks Amy - i will give it a go...you have done well! It's good to hear a first hand opinion of the flavour too. Sounds good if kids love them! ;-)
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Jake says...
Hi Guys, thanks for all the posts - some very interesting information indeed. If anyone is at all interested i bought 3X 3 year old Ugni molinae - Chilean guava a season ago. Once in they established well. With the UK being very different, they absolutely adored full sun, the soil around here is bewteen 6-7pH (Clay loam) and fairly dry. At the end of the summer each plant fruited profusely - early autumn. The fruit are indeed a well balanced sugar/acid cranberry/strawberry explosion - intense - a very exotic taste for visiting freinds and family.
I bought mine from an on-line nursery in Chelmsford, Essex - Floraselect - check them out, they have a huge array of garbdening shrubs and fruit tree and bushes.
best wishes and good luck to you all,
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Sue says...
I planted one from Diggers about a year ago and this summer it has flowered and fruited well and has just finished fruiting. Has full sun, occasionally watered if really dry but mainly rain water. We get 35-40 temps in summer and frost in winter so they are pretty hardy to cope with that. I don't give it much tlc and have planted a strawberry guava as well so we'll see how it goes. Planted on clay, we only have about 600ml topsoil here so they've got to be tough.
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Amy says...
Just thought I'd post an interesting update...we were at my parent's house in New Zealand & they have a Chilean guava as well. This year it had the hugest berries I've ever seen on one - much bigger than mine ever get & they say it's the largest they've ever had as well. They were around 50% bigger than a blueberry. The taste wasn't quite as intense as normal but still nice & with more of a lemony under-taste than mine get.

I asked if they'd done anything unusual to them this year...Dad doesn't fertilise them. The only thing they said was different was they'd had a lot of rain recently. Other than that, they're grown in full sun in the corner of their vege patch. So the watering is important for fruit production. Mine certainly do better when they're on the timed irrigation compared to hand watering.
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Vic says...
All you Melbournite Chilean Guava lovers need to check out the planting info from these people.

http://www.tazziberry.com/

They are the only commerical growers of these little gems in Australia as far as I know. The Mushroom Guy at Prahran Market has punnets of the berries in stock now for $5. They're worth every cent- I'm hooked!
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amanda says...
Great link Vic. Amy - my strawberry guavas do this too. More water = much bigger fruit - but the taste gets "diluted" too much for my liking.

I just lost the last of my 3 chilean guavas - after a 2yr struggle. I suspect the heat and drying winds just slowly took their toll - they never really took off.
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snottiegobble says...
I tried ugni in Vic. without success. They slowly died off one by one over 2 years yet the strawberry guavas (yellow fruit variety) produced like mad & I grew them from seed without any probs. The red ones (also from seed) grew into fine strong shrubs (compared to the yellow fruit Var. which were straggly) but their fruiting was inconsistent. All were in partly shade but mostly sunshine, volcanic soil.
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Tess says...
My friend's bushes are now in full fruit in Southern Tasmania. They're grown in a similar way to blueberries, near the house and missing the hottest sun each day. They're a couple of years old and would be all of 45 centimetres high, absolutely laden with berries that are very easy to strip off the stalk. The smell is the knock-you-over aspect that I'd plant them for; (I'm currently trying to shoot cuttings)
it's an intense toffee and strawberry smell that literally swamps the place late afternoon.
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amanda says...
Thanks for info Tess - may explain my 'n snottiegobbles problem - too hot.
Snottie - my Strawb' guavas next to the Ugni's and they grew like mad too! Is the Ugni actually a guava??
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snottiegobble says...
There was big hype & promotion about ugni in Tassie on Landline a few years ago so a lot of folks went out & bought up big & planted them by the acre. Its good to know there has been success with them in Tassie at least.
Amanda, I think youre right, its too hot on the mainland. We tend to think of Chile as tropical, but like ocas & babacos, ugni must grow up in the Andes where it is much cooler.
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JohnS says...
Avoid full sun/the hot early-afternoon sun in Perth, WA. However they do need at least 4 hours of morning sun and well drained soil(well fortified with matured compost - where the native soil is weak sand).
Always propogate using seed. Dry the seed from well ripened fruit and store in the door of your fridge/or where you store your veggies in the fridge. Then plant the seed at a depth of 4 mm to 7 mm in top quality potting mix in late may and you will be rewarded with a very high germination rate.
I can believe that they need full sun in Tassie.
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krazykangaroo says...
John, I grow mine under shadecloth and no direct sun at all and they fruit really well. I live in Western Vic. They grow well from cuttings so perhaps you need to try again if you have no luck with cuttings.

I love these fruit but can't cook with them as they don't make it back to the house.
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snottiegobble says...
That would be why I also failed with ugni even in Sth W Vic. Not enough shade!
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J says...
My 4 plants flowered prolifically about a month ago but most of the flowers seem to have fallen off. They get a good amount of sunlight and have almost doubled in size within the last six months. Sounds like its a great growing position (north east) but a crap spot for the plants to fruit.
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Brad says...
JohnS - why propagate from seed? They take as cuttings easily - but until I learn how to get them to fruit here, I won't make more (CCS - come get your one!)
If perth gardeners want to buy - I noticed a few unlabelled ugni at Dawson's forrestfield.
since I moved my 2 larger ugni are in different spots as insurance and both putting out some growth, but still no flowers or fruit. If they get that far, I'll try some azalea fertilizer on them for next spring.
Oh and amanda - completely unrelated to guava. if i recall correctly, somewhere calls it a chilean cranberry, but its unrelated to them too.
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Hi Brad
Why seed? I started with a single bush from a nursery and was impressed with the fruit (& the negligible impact of Mediterranean fruit fly - a severe nuisance in Perth if conventional guava are grown.)

& so I tried seed propogation. Dead easy - but only in the cool of Perth's winter.

After 12 months provided you've promptly potted-off the juveniles into a quality growing-medium the stronger plants will be about 40 cm in height.
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Brendan says...
This is the local wild guava growing around here. Taste is 9 out of 10 :-)
They make the best guava jelly too!
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BJ says...
They are the worst fruit for fruit fly. I've got thousands of those ferral guavas on the hills behind my house - all are laden with fruit and every fruit has hundreds of larvae in it. Trying to stop the fruit flies at this time of year is completely futile...

Best time of year to be a chook though!
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Brendan says...
Yeah BJ, have to agree about the fruit flies. I pick them green, before they're stung, and ripen them inside.

Flying foxes love them too.
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Edward says...
Brendan, this looks like the Hawaiian guava sold by Daleys. It is very nice indeed. We have one growing in Sydney and I spray the young fruit with Lebaycid, and later put plastic bags over them till ripe. Works well.
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Peter says...
It also works well with flyscreen mesh around the fruit. Even when the mesh is so close to the fruit, that fruit flies could easily sting them, it is not happening! Unspoilt fruit without spraying and it takes only a few minutes to cover the fruits...
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Rowena says...
I have a 2 year old plant, in a largish pot filled with potting mix in the veg garden, and I have just picked about 4 cups of "cranberries" and made relish. Just grows and fruits with no trouble.
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Tamar Burris says...
Has anybody ever dried Chilean guavas? Are they good fruit to dry, like blueberries? Or are they best fresh or in jam?
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geoff says...
where can I get chilean Guavas in perth
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john says...
Take a cutting . Grows easily.
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Nick says...
Hi everyone, I haven't been having much luck with my chilean guavas lately. I bought one from Bunnings and planted it out after about half a year in the greenhouse, but the leaves slowly dried out. I planted another healthy one a few weeks back but it did the same thing and died within 2 months. I've got one more, but I want to figure out what went wrong first. It definitely wasn't too much sun because as I said the first one grew well in the greenhouse and I don't think it was underwatering.... I'll post some pics soon :)
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Here's the pic.
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Nick T says...
I'm thinking maybe overwatering because the soil is relatively heavy, could this be it?
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snottiegobble says...
Nick, its not you mate! I tried them also in SW Vic, part shade, full sun, but I got sick of waiting for them to grow properly!
Remember Landline a few summers back where Tassie farmers investing like mad & planting ugni by the thousands? I hope it wasnt one big scam cos Ive never seen the fruit for sale anywhere!
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amanda says...
Mine failed too SG...it took them nearly 2yrs but all 4 died one by one..?!
I tried again a few months back and it died in the pot the first week I bought it home! eek!?

Once they get a little dry they just don't seem to recover at all...? They remind me of a boronia plant or such, in this way, somehow...?
(mine in sandy loam Nick...?) Dunno!
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snottiegobble says...
I rate them too finnicky just like Goji berries! They grew like mad in the spring, but dropped out one by one come summer!
I enjoy a challenge, but these 2 are not for me! At the same time as ugni I had no probs with strawberry guavas,& the yellow ones were particularly fruitful!
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Nick T says...
Good to know it probably wasnt me, thanks for the the advice SG and amanda! I might try one more because theyre so cheap at the market but this time ill dig in some sand (plenty of that around at least) so the winter rains dont do it in. I definitely agree about the strawberry guavas, I have what turned out to actually be a yellow, fruiting like mad right next the chilean guava, and at this time of the year theres plenty of neighbourhood red fruiting like mad- such a delicious snack!
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VF says...
Glad to see this forum pop its' head up. There's a handful of us going to give this little plant a go, so any advice is always good. Above pointers noted.
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Nick T says...
Has anyone had any experience with Ugni montana?
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Edward says...
My ugni in Sydney were also in the process of dying slowly just like in Nick's photo, but seem to have improved somewhat following the frequent rains this summer. I also put a plant in Katoomba, and it's doing much better, looking very healthy. It looks to me that the plant is better suited to cooler and wetter climate, such as Tasmania. By the way, some of you might be interested to know that Digger's Club is selling a mountain ugni (check the internet).
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bk says...
I am trying to germinate some Murtilla seed from Pheonix at moment - bit worried cause its already been >2 weeks and no sign of em! I have tried one or two berries of this plant growing in Sth Gippsland and the taste is unbelievable!! Any tips on seed raising?
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asder says...
Why not grow from cuttings ? It takes easily.
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amanda says...
Nick - a lady on another forum is having success with Ugni and she is in Albany (WA) - so a pretty cool and wetter climate. Much like Edward has suggested also.. Hmnn...
Maybe try for a spot that has no wind exposure and only a bit of morning sun maybe...? (and regular moisture)
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Nick T says...
I would put them in a different position but I've got a plan for a nice mixed "hedge" with chilean guavas and ugni montanas. The mango is slowly growing to the west of it but I might plant some kind of temporary shade in summer (taller growing legumes or other veggies maybe?).
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pseudo says...
Weird! We grew myrtus ugni easily in christchurch (-10 degree frosts, heavy waterlogged clay soil, dry summers but mild temp 20-28). We also grew them in Dunedin - frosts, limited sun, cool summers 18-19 degrees, moist cool soils.
It is really interesting how people are struggling to grow them in Perth. I reckon they cant stand the dry. The other possibility is the alkalinity.
The efforts I went to to try and keep the strawberry guava alive from frost and you guys grow them easily here. We always want what we can't have.
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Nick T says...
I just planted my chilean guava, apparently they love acidic soil so in went tonnes of coffee grounds and a good pine needle mulch. Turns out the soil is really light, so it must've been a pH problem last time, possibly a disease or nutritional problem.
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snottiegobble says...
Nick, that could be it, but watch the PH because I read that coffee grounds go neutral after a while!
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Tony Hole says...
Replying to debate about slightly acid soil for blueberries and probably Ugni molinae. I know my blueberries absolutely thrive on my slightly acid soil here in Cornwall with a big mulch of rotting pine needles every winter. So I and a couple of friends will be planting U.molinae also
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shmale_x7 says...
Could anyone tell me where I could get some plants in Perth? None of the online stores will ship these and we've been to a few nurseries (including wandilla) who have looked at us blankly.

thanks
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Jim says...
try calling this nursery in Sth Freo, they have had them in the past

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J says...
heres a pic of my two chilean guava bushes in flower right now. had this many flowers last year too but no fruit. as far as growing them goes Ive found them hassle free. getting them to fruit is a different story!
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John Mc says...
Wow, that's fantastic, is the aroma as intoxicating as they say? How old are the plants? Mine are only two y/o and are 600mm high and bushy.
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J says...
There's no smell that I've noticed. the bushes are two and a half years old. Like I said they are hassle free but I'm not expecting any fruit. I've actually got 4 plants. Two of them have a poor mans orange tree in between them and I'm prunning them back (they are flowering as well) and letting the poormans orange grow over them, so they can be in part shade. I have a theory that even melbourne is too hot for these guys and they need part shade in summer to fruit. So those two bushes will be my part shade trial. The poormans orange still has a few years to go before its big enough to provide some shade!
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VF says...
J, thanks for sharing pics (plants look very healthy) and info - I have 2 plants bought earlier this year, still in pots as I've been unsure where to plant them. Sounds like they may go behind a nectarine to give them summer shade. Only potential problem is that it can be a really windy spot - have read contradictory statements about their wind tolerance.Have you noted any problems?
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J says...
VF, Mine are about 2 foot tall and dont have a problem with the wind. You cant really stake them.. the plants are very bushy but wind never seems to break limbs that Ive seen.
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VF says...
Thanks J, good to know.
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Newbie says...
Shmale - if you're still looking, I picked up a plant from the Beaufort St nursery today... I think Dawson's trying to get some in shortly as well.
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shmale says...
great thanks - I'll check it out hopefully this weekend
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ringelstrumpf says...
here is some information from Chileflora:
http://www.chileflora.com/Florachilena/FloraEnglish/HighResPages/EH0291.htm
I have some plants in shade they do well but I only planted them some months ago. They need moisture so probably not for Perth.
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Metrenco says...
I use to live with the plants and eat the fruits on their natural soil south of Chile. Temperature never goes over 31 celcius and winters are cold freezing an very humid. soils are normally hard but humid. Now i have a plant in Sydney south west,5 years old 1mt tall,full sun till midday, acid soil. But never flowered .
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Aurora says...
Louis Glowinskis The Complete Book of Fruit Growing in Australia says, and I quote: "Don't let the ugni dry out too much though. The easiest way to kill this usually tough customer is to site it in full sun and forget to water it during one of our scorching summer days. Protection from wind as well as full sun is also important" ( He is in Caulfield, Melbourne, and grows his on a south-facing wall)
"The Ugni is frost hardy,.... ....it tolerates -3C without any problems"
"The plant is small, slow-growing evergreen bush, straggly and leggy but forming a compact shrub after a few years. ....it s one of the few plants that will produce abundantly in moderate shade."
And from Mark Diacono's A Taste of the Unexpected:
"In South America it grows in temperate forest clearings.
For UK it is recommended to plant them in moist well drained soil in full sun protected from cold drying winds."

I have just purchased one from Waldecks in Bentley, (they werent there last week!...) and I plan on planting a little "guava grove" next to a feijoaa and a Strawberry Guava.
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Jason says...
I have one that's still alive *just* after 20 years never been watered and endured 46c in Summer -3c in Winter and has fruited every year. The reason it's failing now is because we didn't have wallabies 20 years ago :) but have in the last few and they like to eat low growing shrubs. I think these are about as tough and easy to grow fruit plant that there is.
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Dardanup says...
Does anyon know where I can purchase these plants in WA, as I cannot import from the East due to quarantine restrictions.
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Julie says...
Phoenix Seeds have seeds of this.

Email Michael at: phnxseed@ozemail.com.au
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Kim says...
Dawson's has them - if not on site, they can get them in fairly quickly to the store of your choice (recently purchased 5 very nice healthy plants for a mini hedge). Aurora's post above mentioned that Waldecks also has them.
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StewartCnb says...
Ours is growing and fruiting in Canberra. Be patient!
The Chilean guava likes a cold wet climate. The lakes district of Chile where they grow (we have relatives there) is similar to the North Island of NZ. About 2000mm of rain, hardly ever reaches 30 deg C, can get frost in winter.
We bought a plant from a nursery (now closed) near Allan's Flat, Vic, over 5 years ago and while it grew happily in a garden protected from westerly sun and wind, I'd almost given up on it giving fruit.
I moved it to a huge pot, put a few holes in the sides about 5 cm above the bottom, and it produced small hard berries that were inedible, but the next year it produced the most delightful fruit I have eaten! Tiny (pea-sized), sweet, aromatic, unique.

We have had a few days of -7 deg and it has been untroubled. Got to keep the water up to it in summer. Our grass clippings all get dug into the garden, so the soil is just clay mixed with a few seasons of composted grass clippings. It's on the eastern side of a fence that completely blocks the western sun and wind while the house blocks the sun until late morning.

For photos, ours look like the images that come up in Google images from:
theguardian.com and suttons.co.uk
The leaves are glossy dark green and new growth has a reddish tinge.

Looking forward to our next fruit in autumn!
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Yozi says...
My four year old chilean guava (Melbourne) has many flowers which have turned to berries. However, the berries and their stems are turning yellow and falling off. I do provide plenty of water. Any ideas.
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Guillermo says...
If you try once the fruit. I,m sure you will try to grow it. I got a plant for more than 5 years and never had a flower.Is possible too hot in my area.I will plant some on the blue mountains this year to see if I can taste some fruits. you will find one with fruits at Mount Thomas Botanical gardens NSW.

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Murtilla seeker says...
Guillermo, I'm in the lower Blue Mountains and have 8 plants in my north east facing front yard. No fruit yet after 3 years but just happy they've survived and are growing (I had 10 or so plants from different sources dying on me before) How are your plants doing these days? Have the Minto ones fruited? If you planted in the mountains have these fruited yet. Finding info about this plant (searching both in English and Spanish and for the many names it's known as) is as hard as finding the plant itself - it seems that they're more common in other parts of the country than in and around Sydney
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Guillermo says...
I have to move my plant for home repair. I could not move too far because the amount of soil i left to protect the roots. was at full sun with plenty of water, but this kill it. Was a huge healthy plant of 1 meter high, never flower or fruit in almost 8 years.Now I got one growing in a pot , and planted 3 small ones at Leura , they are growing well. The conditions in blue mountains are more likely to the one this plant need. At Mount Thomas I saw one plant with berries.
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Murtilla seeker says...
Thanks for your response. Sorry to hear your older plant died though it didn't seem to be doing much. Better luck with the new ones. I'll have to go to Mt Thomas then
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Guillermo says...
The plant at Mount thoma, was at full sun on the side of the slope very close to another plant I,m trying to grow at Leura.(gunnera manicata) Chilean rhubarb
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Edith Molina says...
I have several Chilean Guava bushes, the one that gets more sun Has been giving lots of fruit and very sweet, each year the fruit has been bigger and bigger. We grew them from seed and started fruiting at five years, although very small and not a big crop. Be patient and you will be greatly rewarded. i live in Melbourne and winter is very cold, but they dont seem to suffer. Good luck
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