King Thai Mango

Peter says...
There is a rumour that it is 'Maha Chanook' which is kept in the Australian Mango genbank. If you google under this name, the the fruit characteristics and tree characteristics match quite nicely.

Peter says...
So Mike, you don't think it is Maha Chanook?

Peter says...
and not as...?
You mentioned earlier, that you doubt that falan, etc. are in Australia. I had a look what's kept in the Australian Mango genbank and there is Falan, Falan 97,Muhn Kohm, Okrong, OK Rong 97 - so officially these ones are available and if you think one of these, then it is possible.
King Thai has drooping branches, so which one of the onnes you mentioned has them as well? I have one young tree and if you know what to look for to identify by vegetative means, this would interesting.
Actually, Birdwood should at least have the real name in brackets as well to avoid increase of cultivar names, which turn out not to be additional cutivars.
But maybe it is their own controlled crossing and deserve a new name? If the original person does not contact Birdwood to find out, I will do that soon.

BJ says...
i've never had any response to any emails I've ever sent to Birdwood. I will be able to ask them personally at the Expo next weekend though.

BJ says...
I like Florigon and Ataulfo also. i don't think any could match the PSM Carabao.

Peter says...
Thanks people from the East. Here in WA there is such a lot to catch up with about growing different mango cultivars. Only a few years ago many nurseries would just source KP and R2E2, insisting that only these would succeed in Perth. I never believed it. Luckily there is a change now and more choice is available. Birdwood labels now even mention suitability for Perth, if applicable. I guess, we could get a great headstart from people in the Eastern states talking about good cultivars for regions further down the East coast, comparibale with the Perth climate. Please any suggestions?
Ono? King Thai? Irwin? Banana?
I know Glenn does the right things at the right time in Perth and might bear every year and has also a good disease resistance.

Peter says...
Banana is a long, yellow polyembryonic cultivar.
Hayden is generally regarded is vulnerable to fungal disease, but you never know, sometimes the same cultivar behaves very differenly in different countries even with similar climate.
I hope that one day Mallika will be available, which the Tropical Fruit Nursery regards as superb flavour, unparalled disease resistance and being extremly productive.
Sometimes I wonder, why we don't see these cultivars for sale...

Mike says...
Peter I see Mallika is a cross of the top quality Neelum and Dasheri from india and it is very plain in appearance.It sure sounds like an exceptional variety.In a few short decades it might hit our shores but will no doubt be cue jumped by red skinned turpsy american types.

Peter says...
That's great. This forum is great for solving questions like this.
I wonder, if forum people have Maha Chinook and could tell, if it is better in fruit set for colder areas like Perth (or Eastern States equivalent) than KP.
My tree flowers earlier than KP, my first fruit has set last season, but not pollinated. Even half size only because of missed out pollination,at least it did not fall off like KP often does with it's unpollinated flowers. Hopefully it holds this nubbins better.
Seems to have a good disease resistance so far.

Mike says...
BJ I had one today from Rusty's Market and it was great. One person west of Mareeba has them after importing them from Thailand.They have been such a bonanza that I am sure he will not be sharing the variety.
I am sure many of the KP,Calypso amd R2E2 growers as well as backyard hobbyists would like to get them.I suppose it would take someone else importing the trees for them to be available but I don't know if someone could have sole distribution rights if a well established type in another country.

Mike says...
BJ I hope sam ru du is still for sale at that time and they are always mislabelled.They look like Ok rung.I believe that is the lemon merange mango of myanmar and thailand and the answer is no I as far as I'm aware.We seem to be missing most of the exceptional and unusual types but do have some.

Mike says...
BJ The Sam ru dus always go by other names in Australia and they were there as banana mangoes or something else.Nam dok mais are already around in abundance also for the last month.Those long canistel from the philipine lady fronting sheridan street never seem to go quite ripe and are a bit dry but the round ones from the malaysian chinese fellow inside are better.I have bought both types and they are both classic canistel varieties.

M Nash says...
I have a "Banana Ken" and an "Ono" I picked up from Bunnings last season, Growing well. I Could never find just what the banana ken axactly is?
Flowers dropped as can be expected so I have not seen what the fruit looks like yet.

BJ says...
my King Thai set a few fruits this season. Its still too slender to hold them and grow into a decently shaped tree, so I had to pick them off with much regret. Hopefully it will pay dividends next season! Im letting my Allison Red KP hold a few though, as its a bit thicker and is a dwarf KP anyways.

BJ says...
I was lurking on the net the other day and saw that Tou's Garden (NT mango growers) had trademarked and were growing 1000 Maha Chanook trees. They also noted that:

Tou's Garden Maha Chinook

The Maha Chinook mango is trademarked by Tou's Garden in Australia based on a clone of the original Thai Maha Chinook, a natural clone of Sunset, which was first identified at Lampoon, Northern Thailand.

Maha Chinook is a large, regular bearing fiberless fruit with a flat seed similar in shape to Nam Doc Mai mangoes, but having a warm glowing blush colour when mature. The original Maha Chinook is a mid to late season variety popular for export in Japan and Europe.

Specifications:
•Popularity: four star rating
•Brix: 16 - 19
•Taste: sweet
•Availability: late November
•Colour: yellow/pink

Brain says...
@bj, can u kindly let me know where i can track down a king thai in brisbane? Have tried 6 bunnings in the south side without luck. I actually would love to have all the dwarf range from birdswood, or daley if they sell them.

So far, the red alison kp, mackay kp, irwin, sensation, palmer from birdswood/bunnings, a pravin from bunnings as well (not sure where from). All dwarf labeled, but i wonder if they are actually on dwarf rootstock and how tall will it grow. Plus a nam doc mai from daley here on regular rootstock.

The nam doc mai from daley did fruit quiet well, but the heavy rain in bris caused the fruits to split. So i would recommend this to others if they are keen to see some fruit. But it can be disheartening to see your prized mango split. But if weather is on the right side, then i think is worth the effort. The alison red kp is also a winner with at least one fruit still on tree despite the heavy rain.

Brain says...
Thanks very much for the tip, most appreciated.

Brendan says...
Yeah Brian, (or is it Brain :-)? I saw that show too, that banana mango they showed was much bigger than mine, and when mine ripens, it turns a red colour?

David says...
BJ, talked to a phillipino gent the other day, he lives in carina, in his front yard there is a mango tree that has had fruit on it full size in june, this tree regularly reflowers if the first dosnt set, i asked if i could get some grafting material he said no problem, fruit is bowen shape but this tree out performs any others in brisbane ive seen.

Mike says...
I ate 3 of them yesterday toget the seeds and they are exquisite with nam dok mai and okrung overtones and way better than KP hence the higher price.Chocadam and Sam rud du(thai 3 seasons) appear to be variations of the same thing. While they can have 3 crops a year the summer crop taste best.The single farmer near Mareeba growing them,Keow saweoy and nam dok mai is flourishing compared to the bowen and american style mango growers in the district.

David says...
Today located the king Thai mango for sale. Just a short trip to Templex nursery. Lots for sale $38.00, good sized Dwarf King Thai Mango trees for sale

Brain says...
Thank you David for the update, I will be making a trip this Sat. I have been trying to get my hands on a king thai for a year, I even went to visit 9 bunnings all over Brisbane with no luck! so very excited, wish I didn't have to work tomorrow (friday).

This year, my Allison Red KP has one fruit, same as last year. So instead of being a $30 mango, it may become a $15 mango. However my Mackay KP has 5 fruit, so fingers and toes crossed.

No fruit formed this year with my Nam Doc Mai (Daley plant) :( [But during the year of floods, I had like 20 fruit but all of them cracked open with the excessive rain].

The trails and tribulations of fruit tree growing continues.

BJ says...
The ARKP is supposed to be the same in taste as KP, but far more dwarf (mother tree 15ft tall at 40yo or something like that) and better suited to cooler temperature and higher rainfall areas, being selected on the Sunshine Coast. It also has a far more red blush than your standard KP. Mine will hold at least 4 fruit. My Kwan is the best for fruit potential though, it flowered so heavily it snapped itself in half, then flowered again and now has 15 baby fruits on a tiny bush - 5 that will hold full term if I let the tree. I'll knock off all but 1-2 as they will get too large for the tree to hold without splitting itself again!

Brain says...
BJ is certainly the authority here, so if there is something that BJ doesn't know, it's not worth knowing. LOL.

Fruit wise, I've only ever had one (and tasted one) AR KP reaching maturity, so statistically insignificant. However the skin did have more red hue than your average KPs in the supermarket. Taste wise, it tastes like normal KP. However, i did find my AR to be more fiberous than supermarket KP. So I don't know if this is down to genetics or environmental factors, i.e. Brain here is only average at growing mangos and can't compete with full time professionals.

As for the trees itselves, I don't have a 'normal' KP for comparison. But comparing the AP and Mackay, they both look very similar, and if it weren't for the label, I certainly couldn't tell them apart. I've also found the Mackay version to be a bigger plant than the AP and is little bit more vigourous. I.e. AP can be considered slow growing and Mackay - normal, even if both are labeled dwarfs. And my growing observations seems to fit what BJ is saying.

Anyway, this brings me to the next question, is there such thing as dwarfing mango rootstocks? I have found literatures on other fruit dwarf rootstocks (like Flying Dragon for citrus, MMxx for apple and some various ones for cherry), but dwarf mango rootstocks infos have eluded me.

For example, let say you have a dwarfing type tree as the scion, but you have it grafted to a vigourous rootstock, what size of a tree would you have? I've read on the daley pages, they graft all their mangos onto KP rootstock, so I would assume it would come out to be a decent size tree. Then we have these so call dwarf mangos like AR KP, where growth and vigous wise would say it is a natural dwarf. But what about other dwarfs, like the dwarf King Thai, is it on a true dwarf rootstock, where size is contained like a flying dragon or some other magic is at work? LOL.

thanks in advance for the educations :)

VF says...
Excellent info - thanks BJ, Brain and Db.

David says...
Vf ,no worries. Ill keep my ears and eyes open glad to be of service.

Mike says...
Speaking of NDM the 3 at the back are an unusual form that gets a bit of pink when ripening.Yes the tai so lychees are around now and mango enthusiasts will recognise sam ru du at the front.The mangosteen is a borneo small leafed type with etra tang in the fruit.They can be recognised by their more pointy tip,larger size and tiny terminal star.

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VF says...
Try googling Rainbow mango (another name for MC/KT) also. I found that it originated in Thailand, coming from cross between Mexican and Thai varieties. Whether it's true? Here's one link http://goodfruitguide.co.uk/fruits/mango/maha-chanok .(There are a couple more, but like you have found, they tend to be a copy.)

Mike, we don't get the scrumptious diversity that you do (at least not in my neck of the woods), but now we are starting to even it up a little. Haha

JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Beautiful and yummy fruits Mike! thanks for posting the picture. I wish I was there.

David says...
Thanks for the link the more you know the more you understand

Db says...
You guys have provoked me enough to visit Templex nursery, so thanks David, VF, Brain and BJ as well.. Yesterday I visited this nursery to have a look at King Thai and Wax Jambu that VF mentioned above... Didn't buy Wax Jambu in end as as lot of people say they don't like it, so I will consider it after I taste it some day. I bought 5ft tall King Thai Mango tree and Finger Lime - Rainforest pearl... I called nursery in morning to check if any KT had fruit on it, owner said one tree have small fruits but by the time I visited nursery in afternoon those fruits were dropped so only fruitless spike remained so I skipped that smaller plant and bought 5 ft tall instead.. Hopefully it will flower in next season...

Rainforest Pearl finger limes in Templex are expensive ($48) but VERY advance.. The one that I purchased is already 4.5 ft tall and loaded with fruits, mine have 20 fruits of 3 inch size, Around 15 more plants available of same size if anyone is interested. Just off topic question - how big this finger lime fruit grow and how to know when it is ready to pick?

BJ says...
Brain, I believe only one farm has SRD trees and is reluctant to part with material as he has a foothold in the NQ market now. Thye also need to be able to recoup the $$$ spent on importing the trees... They should grow true to type from seed though and I have a spare seedling if you want.

Db, great pickup on the KT/MC mango. Mine are sizing up nicely. As for Rainforest Pearl I can only offer my commiserations. Its a great grower and fruits like mad. Mine got to 12ft in full sun and scorched earth, but I really disliked the fruit. The skin has a very high oil content which makes it unuseable for marmelade and such. Its okay in drinks though, but thats about it. I sent mine to tree heaven after its thorns got too big. If you do put it in the ground make sure its well out of the way as the thorns are nasty and can jag you in the eye. It makes a nice nesting site for stick insects, which cover the branches in their cocoons.

$48 is not bad for a grafted fingerlime. Consider the price one would pay ex Daleys plus shipping and you'd come to roughly the same.

BJ says...
Db, Raindforset Pearl is bulletproof and will grow well for you, but there are only so many of the oily type fruits I could eat. Others are very different. Collette is a good clean, strong limey flavour. Ricks Red is a delicious sweet raspberry x lime flavour that I like eating out of hand. The best ones are usually the selected superior green types and the dark red and orange types. The standard greens and pinks can be a bit hit and miss - there are a few okay ones, but many have that oily skin and a non descript acid-citrus taste.

VF says...
If anyone in Brisbane/G.Coast missed out on KT, they have some at Beaudesert Mitre10 nursery, also Florigon mango and White Goose Feijoa; all plants $38.99, all between 4-5 ft.

Mike says...
Amanda you have the Midas touch turning trash to gold.That is unless you're a big fan of turpsy overtones.TA is more cold tolerant and productive however.

amanda says...
The tag for the King Thai is interesting "A slightly upright tree growing to 3.5m high..." what do they mean by slightly upright..? Hmnnn.. ;)

BJ says...
It probably means upright and moderate vigour. It doesnt branch out horizontally. Even when you chop it low it branches in a very upright manner. The flower panicles are huge and the fruit should nudge 20cm when mature, but they dont bend the branches down as do KP and others (Keitt being the worst) but they hang on very long stalks which dont seen to weigh the branches down much.

Amanda, if you ever got the chance to line up KP, King Thai, Keitt, Kent, R2E2, TA, Nam Doc Mai, Honey Gold, Kyo Savoy, Falan and Elephant tusk you'd find that each has a noticeably different taste. They all taste of mango, but with a wide range of variations. Someone mentioned that its like wine snobs detecting 'subtle notes' of things that are pretty well imaginary between different brands of wine, but often the differences are more like those between shiraz and rose.

VF - White Goose for $38 - thats a good buy as they are usually an extra $5odd from the rest due to the PBR thats put on top of Birdwood's regular prices. They are $43 in Bunnings here and Mammoths are $36.

BJ says...
I cut mine at about metre to keep them low. You should do it to king thai as it will have more fruiting branches at picking height that way.

its also a fairly standard asian type mango shape, just bigger than most bar the elephant tusk family. it is awesome.

I rate most of the asian types highly and the old american types lowly. KP is still my standard that i can eat by the truckload, but NDM, Kyo Savoy, Kwan and even some green falan are good scattered throughout the season. The other Aussie selections are in the 'okay' category - Calypso is a nice pleasant mango without fibre issues and R2E2 is fine. Keitt and Kent are not in the top tier and I'll only eat a few per season before the novelty of giant green turpsy mangoes dies. There are other cultivars recently selected in Florida/Panama that are supposed to be other worldly good, like Coconut Cream, Lemon Zest and Orange Sherbet, but those will take a while to get here (only LZ is poly). Im on the lookout for a Po Pyu Kalay aka Lemon Meringue, which is an old south east asian type that is poly, but i cant find it anywhere, though it must be here...

Brain says...
slightly off topic

I'm looking forward to try these. :)

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Brain says...
I'm in Singapore for the next few days and this was just purchased off the local western style supermarket.

I need to find some local fruit market in the hope of sampling some other varieties.

Anyway, google search indicates these Thailand Golden Honey is the marketing name to Nam Doc Mai. http://thailand-mango.com

I am a little disappointed because I was actually hoping for some really exotic variety.

Despite the complete yellow colour, it is still quite firm at the moment, will probably wait for 1 more day before digging in. I think the difference between Australian ones is that these are picked matured and ripen, and thus bigger in size in general. Will keep everyone posted on the taste test.

VF says...
Thanks for the posts and links Brain. Good to know that (at least for mangoes), here in Oz we have some of the best varieties available to us now. Unfortunate spelling of Nam Doc Mai though! Dork?!
The KT is attractive with its' multi-hues. Rainbow indeed. Hope you find some and get to taste. Enjoy your NDM anyway.

VF says...
Just an update of KT bought a month ago. One set fruit just over 40mm (hopefully a keeper now) on one inflorescence. Lost a few fruit between 20-30mm on second spike, when a third inflorescence developed on the end of the second.(Is that unusual, flowering again from the end of a flower?) Anyway, small fruit setting well on third spike - hopefully have at least one of these develop.

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VF says...
Disappointing re VP. I've read too that they're good, but grow into monsterous sized trees - hope you have the room! (If I see one, I'll give you a shout). I recently gave in and bought a Florigon against my better judgement - but what the heck! Should be nice, but a small fruit.

BTW, don't get the guilts for not planting KT - my soursop (from late autumn) still not out, going to be big job so I keep putting it off. Hopefully it's not too root bound...

BJ says...
Good going on the KT VF! I've got two on my tree, which is quite a vigorous upright grower at this stage. Largest fruit is about 20cm long. I had some drop at around 5cm, so do your best to keep that one on there. My Kwan is about 40cm heigh and has three fruit on. i let it hold them as it just wont be told otherwise, everytime i cut them off it reflowers and fruits again!

Db says...
My KT mango tree that I bought at Templex nursery has no sign of putting any side branches and its only going up.. Currently its 7-8ft tall without any side branches.. If I cut it at say 3-4ft, will it produce more than one branches or is it still possible that it will produce only one branch again and it starts going upward (which i don't prefer)?

Brain says...
I pinched out the tip when I purchased the plant and now it has 2 nodes swelling up. The upright habbit is definitely there and it will take a bit of time to branch up the tree.

Brain says...
cutting 1/2 your tree off is quite drastic isn't it? methinks it will set your tree back a year.

Brain says...
mine is the exact opposite, not an extra leave (let alone any height) since I tip pruned. I suspect KT likes to be tall and narrow and I simply stunned its growth, as least for a while, until new central leaders emerge.

My strategy for my tree is, let the 2 node grow into say 10 cm and then tip prune again. Hopefully the tree gets the hint and grow some side branches. This has worked for most of my other dwarf mangos. Just takes a year (or two) though.

Db says...
Good to know BJ.. I'll prune mine and remove top at least 2-3 fts.. 8ft tall without any side branches is not good for mango.. I'm also thinking to graft it on my seedling in pot, I haven't done grafting before.. Any tips? I don't have grafting tape, thinking to use just glad-wrap and plastic support, will it ok or not worth the efforts?

VF says...
Had my KT mango flower about Xmas/new year period. Let a fruit develop, and ate it last week...fantastic! I picked it with some green on it (thanks for the tip BJ), and it took about 8-10 days to ripen. I had guests so it was shared 5 ways. Everyone thought that it was one of the best mangos they'd had both taste wise (rich and even, just enough tang to enhance flavor) and texture (no fibre, enough firmness but still melt in the mouth). Excellent amount of flesh recovery, seed almost paper thin. One guest now considering growing one themselves. I'm seriously anticipating next season!

VF says...
Hi MaryT. No, not growing the seed, I wouldn't have room to plant it or even grow it in a pot. It's in the compost, but easily retrieved if you want it. I don't know if they're mono or polyembryonic.

Jenny says...
Hi VF I was wondering if you could spare some budwood later in the year possibly? I am a very novice grafter (and also have very little room left) but would love to try with your King Thai if you don't mind. Happy to pay postage etc.

MaryT says...
VF I can only get to the Haymarket one; it's OK but not exciting. Maybe this weekend I'll hop on a train and go to Flemington. Wonder if they'll have mangoes.

VF says...
Got your email Jenny, reply sent.

Tommoz says...
Seeking King Thai (Maha Chanook) plant in NSW or Brisbane area. Thanks

ivepeters says...
It seems the marketing push is starting,it looks like a big season starting in NT, with a new name as well.
Mahachanok = King Thai = ' Maha Bliss '

Markmelb says...
Thats great ish, well done - like to see a pic of your tree? I will be growing mine from next spring in a 38 litre root pruning bag,(see pic with Avo) In these pics the King Thai was very slow to kick new growth as was flushing flowers till end of November and was removing constantly after they were identified as not growth leaves but as you can see it budded just above the graft but still unevenly but will leave as is for now.

After removing centre of the Alphonso it grew 5 perfectly even branches and the Glenn grew 4 perfectly even branches too.

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Neptune1 says...
Hi everybody, new to the site, this thread has been great. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm looking for a dwarf mango tree and King Thai sounds great. Is it a disease resistant tree when grown around Brisbane?

David says...
Was checking out the usual fruit shop at Garden city today and they had Maha Chanok for sale. Will upload pics .The problem with most unknown mango types is local sellers put there own interpretation and name to the mango ,so wrong and confusing.

Amanda says...
Just to follow up on my King Thai/Mahachanok mango down here in Bunbury in WA: It's turned out to be a star performer - the fruit is large and tastes absolutely superb. The tree is compact and healthy - even in our cooler climate.
It does appear to be a little touchy/sensitive to low boron levels though - so if you have sandy and/or fast draining soils it's a good idea to ensure your fertiliser contains all the micronutrients/trace elements, or you may get small fruits that crack.

Highly recommend this beautiful mango.
(We have a mediterranean climate here - and get the odd very light and brief dusting of frost now and then)

Mango Mike says...
In OZ King Thai Mango was a marketing move by a nursery not Daley's to sell the Ma Ha Chanook mango... They are one & the same in OZ.....

Amanda says...
These links describe the Thai Mahachanok as yellow-orange with a pink blush. This is what my King Thai mango looks exactly like also. Very strong perfume too...
Also called Rainbow mango here (Aust)

https://www.mangozz.com/maha-chanok/

https://tousgarden.com.au/variety/

"e;Rainbow mangoes, botanically classified as Mangifera indica, are fruits of a flowering plant and members of the Anacardiaceae family along with cashews and sumac. Also known as Mahachanok and Maha Chinook, Rainbow mangoes are a hybrid variety created from the Thai nang klang wan and the sunset mango cultivars. The Rainbow mango was named after Thai King Bhumipol’s book, Mahajanaka, which is a symbol of sustainability, awareness, and spirit of the country. "e;

Bangkokii says...
Well all i can say is that in Malaysia/Singapore a King Thai mango does NOT look like a mahachanok.

And King mango in Thailand is also another one than mahachanok.

Lately we can buy the new taiwanese mango varieties, huge ones.

Those are nice but namdocmai still beats them all.

Linton says...
The local fruit shop here has just got in some of the new Taiwan mangos you mentioned. The shape is like very big nam docs but the price is $30/ kg. Therefore it would cost about $20 for 1 mango so I didn't buy one to try. In any case, I have found that imported mangos are never as good as the locally grown ones from up north that are more fresh.

Amanda says...
I am pretty confident that I have a mahachonok..if it turns out not to be a "e;King Thai"e; mango it won't kill me to be honest :)
It's still an amazing mango with a flavour to die for and I love mine.

(plus: there is a "e;King mango"e; in/around Singapore - it seems...not the same as "e;King Thai"e; ...
I have no doubt that the mahachanok was named after the King of Thailand...having been there when their King died.)

David01 says...
Hi Amanda,

You King Thai size is very large and looks awesome. How old is your mango tree and what is your min temp in June-August when you said cooler climate?. I have one but may take a year or two to have fruit. Cheers

Bangkokii says...
Amanda you have mahachanoks...

Linton i paid 50 baht for a 1.1 kg red elephant tooth mango and it was superb.

It's not as sweet as namdocmai but that's perfect for me.

red elephant tooth is better than yu-wen imo.

I grow yellow elephant tooth mango's myself but they were very curved and started rotting in the curve...so i have nothing this season from my tree.

Amanda says...
I think where the confusion is coming in with this is that the Mahachanok was given the name "e;King Thai"e; in Australia. As discussed in other groups - it's about marketing a name.
This is the plant label that came with my Mahachanok, for eg.
Personally I prefer to call it by it's Thai name as it's less confusing and that is it's proper name?
There was some kind of attempt to trademark the name/plant at one stage and also the name Rainbow manngo. But I don't think it was successful - but it's curious that there have been no plants in the nurseries for the past 5yrs - given that it would be a highly sought after selection?

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David01 says...
Hi Amanda
Based on the BOM statistics your mean min temp for the period of June to August is about 2C higher than Essendon Vic where I am living. But the lowest temp during July August is still the same at around -2C. I was wondering how your King Thai cope with -2C? Note: My King Thai is growing in the greenhouse. Cheers

Amanda says...
Tou's garden in the NT are still trying to get some kind of rights over the Mahachanok (?King Thai) variety though?
I am not surprised - but I have actually tasted their fruit and I will say that ours, grown in a more southern climate - are even better?
NT mangoes don't taste great - not compared to QLD and WA...so imagine how good these will taste when grown further south?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2016-07-12/mango-farm-planting-40000-extra-maha-bliss-trees/7558378

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Bangkokii says...
Well the mahachanok tastes much better than the r2e2 which is for sale here in supermarkets. I know a guy who planted hundreds of those in thailand, i don't understand it though.

We also have clay a lot here but that's fine for mango. Very heavy clay.

Mostly the maha's i see here are orange and sometimes can have the pink blush.
They all have the same smell though, easy to recognise because only maha's smell like that and soo strong.

If there are maha's in a supermarket they are as easy to find as durian.

The r2e2's in our supermarkets are from Oz, but i don't think we'll see aussie maha's there any time.