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Ruth starts with ...
I am searching for a rootstock or cutting of a Solanum Capsicoides also known as Devil's Apple and as Cockroach Berry.

I read in an old Gardening Australia magazine, that we can create our own eggplant tree, by grafting an eggplant scion into a solanum capsicoides rootstock.
I am having difficulty in locating a solanum capsicoides plant and I will appreciate if you can help me to find one.



Time: 18th September 2009 1:58pm

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Kath says...
If you have any tobacco bush growing on your place you can do the same with this, for the standard weeping egg plant. Both the tobacco bush and the Devil's Apple are environmental weeds.
http://www.esc.nsw.gov.au/site/Weeds/Sheets/trees/T%20Wild%20tobacco%20bush.htm

Time: 21st September 2009 3:07pm

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Myllika says...
Ruth you and I must of read the same book I am also loking for cockroach berry plant/cutting have you been successful what about Kath's suggestion is it feasable.

Time: 6th November 2009 8:56am

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Phil says...
They are growing by the roadside everywhere up here although the fruit/seeds aren't ripe yet. Give them a few month and you can have as many as you like.
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Time: 6th November 2009 11:24pm

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Ellen says...
Wow, so this is edible too, I digged up this tree in my back yard, but part of the root system went over to my neighbor side, it is still kept popping up to my side now and again.

Time: 7th November 2009 4:10am

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Phil says...
No, don't eat this one. Only use it as a rootstock if you want to live to see your eggplant bear fruit.
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Time: 7th November 2009 9:50am

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Ruth says...
Hi Myllika, No I haven't got any of those plants, but here in NSW we have the kangaroo apple which is also a solanos family and I was given a few plants, so i am going to try with them. Kangaroo apple fruit is used as an abortive by the aboriginees, and I was concerned if the fruit of an eggplant grafted into a kangaroo apple would also be an abortive. Now as you can see from Phil's reply, a poisonous fruit plant can be used as rootstock.

Time: 8th November 2009 9:45am

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Ruth says...
Hi Ellen, do you mean you had a devils apple tree growing at your place? do you have any seedlings? and do you live in Smithfield NSW? if this is correct, can you direct me to where I can find one of this trees, seedling, or just seed. thank you

Time: 8th November 2009 9:54am

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Myllika says...
Hi Ruth also Phil as I am not in the East coast area can either of you explain these plants and how high they are I think it looks like the Kampurara ( bush tomatoe/raisin) that grows in the north of SA but that is a small knee high plant, as for the kangartoo apple do you have a photo/discription of it I have some Indigenous plants in my yard I think it is of the solanum family certainly looks like

Time: 8th November 2009 11:10am

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Phil says...
The kangaroo apple is also a large shrub, I don't know if it has been used as a rootstock though. You can tell it apart as the leaves are shaped just like a kangaroo's footprint if you hold it against the palm of your hand. The bush tomato is also a semi-arid plant indigenous to Australia, and a member of the solanaceae family
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Time: 8th November 2009 1:38pm

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Ellen says...
Ruth

the 1st picture posted up by Phil, that was the 2 plants I had in my backyard, but I've chopped them both down already, but both of them still have roots left behind as it creeped over to the neighbor side. So now and again it would spring up back over to my side of the land.
If that is the plant you need, then perhaps I might be able to help you out, next one coming back up I'll save it for you. Email me on emmanuel19972000@yahoo.com

Time: 8th November 2009 2:58pm

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Myllika says...
Hi Phil yes that is the one I have growing it pops up all over my yard and is very profilic and lush looking, I'm talking about the kangaroo apple quiet a large shrub, I might have a go at it the same as Ruth and see what happens

Time: 8th November 2009 4:16pm

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Phil says...
ok, there is no real reason it shouldn't work with a kangaroo apple.
I read about an American couple who grafted their tomato plants onto Datura (Angels Trumpet, Brugmansia) and grew poisoned tomatoes - the solanacea family is full of surprises. It includes some very useful plants such as potatoes, pepinos, capsicums and the like but can be deadly if you misidentify anything. Take care.

Time: 8th November 2009 4:48pm

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Myllika says...
great Phil that realy makes me want to experiment with the kangaroo apple graft I may have second thoughts or at least try and find more information on it

Time: 8th November 2009 8:05pm

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Myllika says...
Hi Ruth how did you go trying the Kangaroo Apple as a root stock for eggplant did you try like you said you were going to? was it successful? any down sides to using the K apple such as toxic? or is it ok? cheers love to know how it went

Time: 27th November 2009 11:46am

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Ruth says...
Hi Phil, do you know if the fruits of an eggplant grafted on a kangaroo apple rootstock will also carry the abortive property of the kangaroo apple. I am concerned about it as my daughters are vegetarians and both love eggplants and I wouldn't like to feed them something that may be abortive.I bought a tamarillo tree and I may try on that but it may not be as hardy as a native.

Time: 29th November 2009 10:08am

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Ruth says...
Hi Myllika I haven't try it yet as I need to have the plant well established in my garden and also I had overseas guest for the last 5 weeks, so now I am back to my garden, but I bought a tamarillo tree and I feel more comfortable if that work although it may not be as hardy as a native, I 'll how it goes.

Time: 29th November 2009 10:12am

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Myllika says...
Hi Ruth,

I have it on good authority from horticultural trained woman that the kangaroo apple will not be harmful or toxic to the eggplant as you are only using it as a root stock - so it is perfectly harmless and ok to use . I am going to give it a go.
Cheers Myllika

Time: 4th December 2009 3:36pm

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Ruth says...
Thank you Myllika, I will do the budding this week

Time: 7th December 2009 10:34am

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paul says...
i have devils apple for sale the berrys are just rippening now if you interested

Time: 16th December 2009 9:27pm

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Ruth says...
Hi Paul, Please clarify if your devil's apple plants are different to the Wild Tobacco Tree (solanum mauritianum)? I am a bit confused as the wild tobacco tree looks identical to the devil's apple plant shown in the picture that Phil posted earlier.
The Wild Tobacco plants I got, have small little leaves at the base of the stem of the big leaves and if I crush the leaves they smell like oil (petrol oil).
Please confirm your Devil's Apple seed come from a plant that is different to the Wild Tobacco Tree and maybe you can point to the diference between these two plants.
Thanks, Ruth

Time: 29th December 2009 9:11pm

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Kim says...
Hi Paul I do realise that its been a while since your post, but I have recently had surgery for a melanoma (BCC) and have been reading about the medicinal properties of the devils Apple I am looking to buy either some fruit or a plant. You may contact me 0404733191

Time: 19th December 2011 8:34pm

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Gus says...
I know its an old post, but anybody out there got cockroach berry cutting they are selling?

Time: 29th April 2012 10:58pm

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Jantina says...
Gus, we have the plant that Phil has pictured on 8/11/09. Is that the one you want? if so I can send you seeds (ripe fruit at the moment) cuttings or a seedling.

Time: 30th April 2012 1:23pm

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paulw says...
hi havn't been back to sight for a long time are u still in need of some devils apple mine is not the same as picture, on phills first post it loks like wild tobacco to me

Time: 30th April 2012 8:23pm

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Gus says...
Hi Jantina

Thanks for your reply

Does the plant look anything like this?

I was hoping to graft eggplants onto it. I have tried growing cockroach berry from seed but cant get anything to sprout.
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Time: 30th April 2012 8:28pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
The plant I intend to use is, I think, Solanum chrysotrichum or the Giant Devil's fig. It is superficially simialr to S. torvum or the Thai pea eggplant but I'm not so sure the fruit are edible. It appears promising as a rootstock however.
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snottiegobble says...
There is an old wives tale, about Kangaroo Apples & its this:- If you feed a clucky chook some K A fruit she will hatch predominately pullets against roosters!
Well I tried it once with a Silkie hen
Result 15 pullets
3 roosters
Now is that sheer luck or what??
BTW they were all her own eggs!!

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Gus says...
Are they a fairly tree like plant Phil?
They kind of look it in the picture but a little hard to tell.

Time: 30th April 2012 10:29pm

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Jantina says...
No Gus mine is the same as the one Phil has pictured on the 8/11/2009

Hey snottie, now that's something worth trying. Unfortunately I usually only know one of them has gone broody when they reappear with family in tow (they free range in several acres with lots of bushes and bracken!)

Time: 30th April 2012 10:58pm

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snottiegobble says...
Well Jantina, you need to get some seeds & plant them out there! They are pretty robust & there are heaps around Colac & the Otways! BTW, No foxes in your area?

Time: 30th April 2012 11:21pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
@ Gus - yes they do get pretty woody with age, some around here are fifteen feet tall and as much across

Time: 1st May 2012 5:06am

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Jantina says...
Yes indeed snottie I think we are the fox headquarters BUT we have about 30 acres enclosed with an 8 ft high electrified fence because we have a lot of small native animals (potorooos, betongs etc)and I stole about 4 for my garden and poultry. Twice in 8 years we have had a fox breach the fence and the result has not been pretty.
If poultry on this consistently produced more pullets you would think it must have some sort of hormonal content.

Time: 1st May 2012 9:08am

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snottiegobble says...
Jantina, yes it must be hormonal. I think the original article was in Grass Roots Mag. many moons ago!

Time: 1st May 2012 1:22pm

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Gus says...
How close are you to grafting your eggplants Phil?
Do the Giant Devil's fig look like a good root stock? Do they have thorns like the Cockroach berry?

Time: 1st May 2012 10:32pm

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I had initially tried S. mauritianum (wild tobacco) without much success, but it is a quicker growing plant so thought it might be useful but for some reason the grafts didn't take.. I think that S. chrysotrichum is more closely related to eggplants and the like so even though my plants are still small I think I'll persevere with this species. I plan to wait until they are four or five feet tall before I graft, so might be a little way off yet.

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jakfruitetiquette says...
Hi, here is a link about the closely related Solanum to eggplant
http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/new/Sorting/CATALOGUE/Pt4-Nightshades.html
Solanum is a very big genus, so some aren't as closely related as others.
Grafting may go better with more closely related species?
Pea eggplant, devils fig and wild tobacco aren't in this link. but I have "heard" of pe and wt being used as rootstock. Never actually seen it.
Devils fig can get very large,3 or 4m tall, pe and wt about 2m?
S.capsicoides that I saw was a creeping shrub, smaller than most eggplants, not sure if it would be as useful as an eggplant "tree" rootstock?

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VF says...
Gus, Giant Devil's Fig is very thorny- the thorns are like those on a rose but much larger and tightly packed together. The plant is also a very fast grower, and the seeds seem to remain viable in the ground for some time - we've been trying to eradicate it for over 2 yrs, and seedlings are still popping up. I'd be wary of using it. As above, the original plants were about 4m tall.

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jakfruitetiquette says...
S.torvum"pea eggplant" and S.mauritiana"wild tobacco" are very common. Giant devils fig is a monster plant,but not as widespread?

Time: 2nd May 2012 7:32am

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Gus says...
Interesting info.
I find that eggplant article missing a little bit of information at time. It sounds that even the authorities have trouble defining the different species. It is not easy to find direct information about grafting eggplant on to solanum other than this article I found
http://deepgreenpermaculture.com/diy-instructions/grafting-eggplant-onto-devil-plant/

I thought this is what the solanum Cap looks like? It looked a nice sturdy tree to act as a rootstock, but I have no luck getting the seeds to sprout anyway. I haven't had any luck getting the torvums to sprout either but I may try again with them. Have any of you seen a torvum growing? Do they look more suitable as rootstock?

Time: 2nd May 2012 9:32am

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jakfruitetiquette says...
In the grafting article, the plant is giant devils fig, but not S.capsicoides.
Pea egplant S.torvum, is similar to GDF, but much smaller, still gets to 2m tall.

Time: 4th May 2012 7:42am

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Gus says...
Thanks Trikus for your info.
You really know your solanums. They are a difficult group with a lot of confusion.
I think I will be after the Devils fig then.
Sounds kind of biblical doesn't it.

Time: 4th May 2012 9:55am

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John Mc says...
Huh? What? Trikus? Did I miss something? Where?

Anywho, the commercial guys use the wild tobacco S. mauritianum for Tamarillows. I have some eggplant grafts happening on one as we speak, it's a bit late in the season but after 4 weeks, it's still holding.
If you don't live in an area that has a ban on S. Torvum, I'm happy to send you some seedlings, I have far more than I can ever use.

Time: 4th May 2012 2:36pm

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gus says...
John, if you have any s.mauritianum cuttings or seeds I would love to buy some from you.

Time: 4th May 2012 3:04pm

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John Mc says...
I see you're in WA, gus. Might be a bit dicey sending wild tobacco seed over there. They'd cut your you know what's out.

you don't have it around your area?

Time: 4th May 2012 5:51pm

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gus says...
I don't know if it is around here or not but I am sure they are probably being used as rootstock all over the city. I just can't seem to find any!
I assume if they are kept strictly to pots and grafted before fruiting they probably aren't a great threat?

Time: 4th May 2012 6:47pm

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jakfruitetiquette says...
Gus they are mainly weeds of NSW subtropics, and S.torvum more up in central QLD. May not be common in WA???
S.torvum is cultivated for the "pea" eggplants, fruit may be avail at Vietnamese groceries.

Time: 4th May 2012 8:43pm

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amanda says...
These ones grow up here Gus..they are pretty hard to distinguish from the edible bush tomatoe - so I don't know which is what - but I can try and collect some seed for you?

I also have real tobacco seeds (shh) if u want some - what is "wild tobaco"...? (pic needed) as there is a weedy wild tobacco plant up here too...


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amanda says...
oops - forgot the picture...(bush tom type plant..)
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Time: 4th May 2012 9:26pm

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gus says...
Hi Amanda,
I have put a picture of wild tobacco in....I think.

Have you tried growing your tobacco seeds?

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gus says...
Just reading through a couple of things I am pretty sure the tobacco plant and wild tobacco (s.mauritianum) are the same thing. Have you ever tried grafting anything onto them?

Time: 4th May 2012 11:21pm

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John Mc says...
gus's pic above is wild tobacco. Smoking tobacco, S. Nicotinium or something along those lines has larger lighter green leaves. I haven't heard of anyone using S. Nicotinium for rootstocks.
I'd try and source S Mauritianum or S. Torvum (pea eggplant)from over there for rootstock purposes..

Time: 4th May 2012 11:33pm

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jakfruitetiquette says...
The Solanum"tobacco bush" has large velvety leaves,purple eggplant type flowers and yellow seedy fruit, about 1cm
Tobacco species(Nicotiana)have white trumpet flowers( some spp green or yellow)
and seed in brown capsules.

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John Mc says...
Thanks for the spelling check jakfruitetiquette, my tobbaco plant, S. Nicotiana have pink flowers, same usual brown pods. I don't know if the colour of the flowers differentiates cultivars or not? I've read that the Virginian CV has the pink flowers, other may have as well, I'm not sure on that one. Further research will tell.

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
I have a great strain of Nicotiana alata growing here, great mix of colors. I was sent a free pkt of seeds by accident when I ordered something else from the UK, now I think I have them for life, they come up every year (pictured behind friend with bananas).
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trikus says...
! I do not remember posting in this thread , may have made a comment on another one about Ron Berry grafting onto the weed sp. that grows all over the place up here . Seems there are several very similar looking spp. and if some are toxic care needs to be taken .

Time: 5th May 2012 10:21am

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jakfruitetiquette says...
John Mc, I forgot about the pink flowers on the Nicotiana tabacum types, thanks.
Some ornamental Nicotiana have petunia type coloured flowers.

Time: 5th May 2012 11:26am

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gus says...
I wonder what yours are Amanda?


Time: 6th May 2012 12:57am

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amanda says...
Tough Qu Gus! I will snap some pics for u in the next few days..? Someone here might know..? All I can say is that they are two damn tough plants...


Time: 7th May 2012 11:59pm

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amanda says...
Hi gus, this is the solaneum...it's spikes are not very nice. Have no idea which type it is - I would ant an indigenous person to help me!? :)


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Time: 9th May 2012 10:55am

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amanda says...
Part 2 for gus...this is the nicotiana spp (spelling?)


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Time: 9th May 2012 10:57am

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gus says...
Interesting pics Amanda

Does anyone know what they are?
Pic 4 Looks a little like the kangaroo berry but the otheres don't even really look like solanum

Time: 9th May 2012 10:50pm

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amanda says...
I was hoping someone else might know what they are too gus...? :)

The genus names fine - it's the species names that are the problem.

If I had the time I could try to test them myself..but...I don't.

I might get these tobacco seeds up and running in the meantime. I don't smoke it and I wouldn't sell - so how bad can it get really...(roll's eyes)

Time: 10th May 2012 12:11am

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jakfruitetiquette says...
The tobacco is Nicotiana glauca, not Aus native. Ethnobotanically, it contains anabasine,not nicotine, so supposedly less toxic.
The Solanum, looks like S.lasiophyllum"flannel bush", but I would check in case there are very similar relatives??

Time: 10th May 2012 6:33am

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amanda says...
Thanks jakfruitetiquette - that's really interesting also as I was wondering about making an infusion of the leaves of the Nico' plant as "natural" poison to pour down the bull ant nests....?

Just needed to know which plant is was. Someone mentioned neo-nicotinoides as pesticides in another thread acutally (I think john/kert and Mike discussed them)
Interesting stuff.
(apparantly u have to be really careful of the Solanums around here - as we also have the authentic "bush tomatoe" one as well...and they all look remarkably similar to my untrained eye...

Time: 11th May 2012 12:51pm

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gus says...
Nice work jakfruitetiquette

How you can identify these things I will never know.


Time: 11th May 2012 9:26pm

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amanda says...
plant taxonomy gus. A science in itself.. :)

Time: 11th May 2012 11:56pm

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gus says...
Have any of you guys had luck in grafting eggplant, tomatoes or chilllis?

I am about to give it a crack and would love to hear anyones success stories (or failures) if any.

Time: 11th August 2012 12:16pm

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Omero says...
Hi All
My first post.
Looking to graft eggplant onto rootstock.
Gus, have you succeeded?
I'm in Perth too and amlooking to have a fantastic eggplant tree as wel

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Time: 31st December 2012 4:25pm

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gabs says...
I'm going to look for the solanum "devil" plant in Adelaide and try and give grafting a go.

Time: 3rd November 2013 9:38am

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Gus says...
I Haven't been on the forum for a while, so sorry to ignore you Omero.
I have had very little success grafting eggplant. Out of the ten or so I have attempted only one lasted....for a while. Perhaps I will have better luck trying in Summer?
Perhaps it is just my lack of experience, but I am surprised how hard it is for them to take

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gabs says...
My grandpa showed me that he's got it. It's very spikey, and he's grafted eggplants in a few spots. He's going to give me one, so I'm going to try transplanting it, and then will give grafting a go...fingers crossed.

Time: 19th November 2013 3:12pm

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Gus says...
I have tried to do a few more but they have not really survived either. I have generally cut a slice down the root stock, neatly cut a V shape on the scion and wrapped it all together with grafting tape. Whether to put a plastic bag over it or not is still up in the air for me, but I have tried lots of different ways with no success.
the scion always seems to die, even if it is in shade.

Time: 22nd November 2013 3:00pm

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kazurina says...
A one off post as trying to find poison ratios for the Giant Devils Fig. Bad bad weed. It has come to northern nsw. And i note one person said this and the tobbacco tree are noxious weeds and take care. They should be totally destroyed. (The Giant Devils Fig, fast growing, tall, single trunk, totally thorn covered, giant leaved plant i see one photo of in this site, has red medium size tomato looking fruit filled with seed). I read a year ago a plant was noted for the first time in Terrania creek forrest 18 months before. As the crow flies id be about 15km away. I first saw this plant under the small mango orchard, close to a cabin i rent on a cattle farm, about 18mths ago. Birds and fruit bats also feast on a large native fruit bearing tree in the cattle race hear. Ok this regions weather is the best in the country for weeds to easily get out of contol but a recent scan count added to about FOUR HUNDRED closely compact seedlings in the cattle race alone. Currently not quite that density under the mangos. This plant has rendered tracts of agricultural land inaccesible in sections of asia somewhere. Possibly in poor areas where poison is not financially possible. I hope passionate gardners will think and research a little deeper than the novelty of a trendy plant, however it is accessed, to have or play with.

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peppergrafter says...
Hello thread. I can see it's an older one but I'm hoping to get some response. I wonder about the growth rate of the Devil Plant. This is the first time I plan to use Devil Plant for grafting. So the question is, how tall/large/thick (

Time: 4th January 2015 8:01am

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peppergrafter says...
Not sure what happened to my previous comment that only half was sent. Anyway, so the question is, how tall/large/thick (stem) will they be in 2 months, 3 months etc.? Or how fast do they grow compared to tomatoes/peppers? Thanks!!

Time: 4th January 2015 8:02am

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MIke T1 says...
We must be careful with plants with weed potential.My area and many parts of northern Australia have the massive weed infestations mostly due to imported cattle pasture and fodder plants that are out of control and rogue seeds that get imported with them.Many can't even be declared as weeds due to cows eating them.
The wet tropics also has many horticultural species that have gone feral and it is a lesson for other area.This Solanum appears to be one such have species although is only sporadic in my area as a feral.

Time: 4th January 2015 9:34am

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Weeds are a complex issue, the worst are the rare types that can invade intact ecosystems, but many are opportunistic on disturbed areas, roadsides, nutrient and water runoff, which is the real problem.
re Solanum capsicoides I dont recall it being a very large plant, so no more vigorous than eggplant + capsicum, wondering if it is such a great rootstock choice? Pea eggplant is maybe better ?

Time: 4th January 2015 11:00am

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sternus1 says...
There are no such things as weeds. The term is a s sociological one, it isn't something anchored in scientific reality. Somebody's weed is someone else's plant.

Take a trip to provincial France and you won't go ten steps without seeing a well manicured and pampered lantana bush.

Time: 4th January 2015 11:15am

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Chris says...
Would I be correct in saying Cannabis sativa is a weed at your place, Sternus?

Time: 4th January 2015 2:04pm

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sternus1 says...
No. You wouldn't.

I may have to start growing it to pay for my orchard costs however, my trade in gold tops really dropped off last year and my stable of hoes are overdue for new pairs of jimmy Choo kitten heels.

Time: 4th January 2015 4:35pm

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MIke T1 says...
Hoeing the garden for weeds is a different activity in your neck of the woods Sternus.

Time: 4th January 2015 6:06pm

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sternus1 says...
Seems like the older I get the less hoeing there is to do, Mike....

Time: 4th January 2015 6:30pm

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MIke T1 says...
Those wild oats can be a bitter harvest Sternus and maybe the weeds lead to the hoeing.

Time: 4th January 2015 7:01pm

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Auzzie says...
Ruth - are u still looking for a rootstock?

Time: 22nd August 2015 8:14am

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Auzzie says...
Succeeded with grafting 2 eggplants onto a cockroachberry as per photos

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Time: 28th December 2015 5:36pm

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Jo says...
I am impressed. I have tried this so many times and it doesnt take. Normally i take a v cleft and put a scion of about 10cm in the top but after so many attempts i have given up. This looks like a different kind of graft. Any tips ?

Time: 29th December 2015 10:48am

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Auzzie says...
I was surprised and had not expected this. I have only seen it on YouTube and this is my 3th attempt. Yes a cleft graft and about 8 cms scion making sure that it has more then one eye,the scion is smaller then the host and I lined up one side only. Herewith another photo of the first one to take, it is now 25 cms long and has two set of flowers coming on, very exited

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Auzzie says...
My first attempts died, with the next grafts I make sure that the graft was just above small side branch that would pull up the nutrients so that the graft had access to this and I latter trimmed theses off or down, depending how well it took, perhaps that is the secret - hope this makes sense to you.

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phil@tyalgum says...
I noticed there are seeds on eBay at the moment for Solanum capsicoides, the Cockroach berry

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Auzzie says...
Hi Phil - I can send you some seeds - send a card with your address to P.O. Box 791 Epping 1710 and I will mail some. Herewith another picture of the grafted eggplant.

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Time: 9th February 2016 5:24pm

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Auzzie says...
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phil@tyalgum says...
Great photos. Is that just a regular eggplant tho? Or did you graft on to a wild rootstock.

Time: 10th February 2016 10:23am

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Auzzie says...
I posted a photo on December 30th, showing as small eggplant scion grafted onto a Solanum capsicoides. These photos are updates of the same graft - I received the eggplant cuttings from a local grower, I hand pollinate and it looks like I may have 4 eggplants forming.

Time: 11th February 2016 10:12am

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Markmelb says...
Heres some photos of my 4 year old Devil Plant Solanum ---

This year had 2 grafts take very well and producing alot more Lebanese than Bonica -

Also did and experiment and grafted similar onto a Pea eggplant that continued thru winter - but as far as i can see isnt as vigorous with the new eggplants on it as Devil plant.
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Auzzie says...
Wow Mark that is amazing, my plant is in a pot as well, did you trim the plant back in winter or just leave it?

thank you

Gerry

Time: 12th February 2016 9:55am

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Auzzie says...
Phil - if you want some seeds - my email gwagemans@optusnet.com.au and I will mail them

take care

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Time: 12th February 2016 5:41pm

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Auzzie says...
Has anyone had experience grafting a Tomato - Solanum lycopersicum ? I will make that my next project

Time: 12th February 2016 5:43pm

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Markmelb says...
The 3 years earlier the Main (now 1.8mt in Pot) plant survived winter ok outside but the Bonica didnt survive so last year did Striped and purple lebanese and they both survived winter but dark Leb moreso and kicks earliest in spring too.

My project for next summer is to graft several eggplant varieties to a Tamarillo out front im getting tired of eating - will keep everyone posted on this experiment in 10 months?



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Otto says...
Hi Auzzie,
I know the post is almost a year but do you still have seeds of Devil Plant Solanum?

I live in Ryde maybe I can come to pick up instead of mailing

Cheers

Time: 26th December 2016 10:32pm

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Auzzie says...
I can do better than that - I live in Epping and I can drop off a plant in a pot - but need address 0407088001

Time: 27th December 2016 7:25pm

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Viktor says...
Hi guys,

I'm in need for some Solanum Capsicoides seeds, as I've recently setup a place to grow some eggplants and tomatoes, and prefer it to be grafted. I'm happy to pay for the seeds. Any help will be appreciated.

Cheers,
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Hi Viktor
I have a spare plant so if you want it you can pick it up from Epping NSW


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Viktor says...
Hi Auzzie,

That would be great. Let me know when will be the best time and day to come and pick it up.

Regards,
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Auzzie says...
0407088001 give me a ring

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0407088001 give me a ring

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Corry Garam says...
Hi everyone, I am looking for Solanum Capsicoides roof stock to grow eggplant tree. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please email me with any information or give me a ring on 0419148001. Cheers, Corry.




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Corry Garam says...
Hi Auzzie, If you are willing to sell cuttings of Solanum Capsicoides, let me know. Phone 04191 48001. Leave message if I don't answer and I will get back to you ASAP. Cheers, Corry

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Harry says...
Vasili's Garden (coburg) got some in stock yesterday and I think they about $10.90 each. Cheers

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Corry Garam says...
Thank you so much Harry. It's great to know that they are readily available. I have also made great contacts thr;ough this site. Thanks to all. I will jpost photos once we get set up and running. Cheeers, Corry

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Big paul says...
Hey guys I'm in Western Australia and I'm looking for some solanum capsicoidies seeds over here any help?

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nko771 says...
u can ask any greek or italian gardeners

WA has strict quarantine laws so it might be hard for that

u can also use Kangaroo apple for grafting

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Yubo1 says...
Hi Auzzie
I just join this nice forum today. And I am looking to buy the devil apple or this familys plant or seed for eggplant rootstock and ask people around me for a while, but got no success before I find this nice forum.
I wonder if you can send me some seed to me or I can let my son to pick up the seed or plant as my son have a bathroom shop in Ashfield which is not far from Epplng---the address is 244 Parramatta road nsw 2131,if you have any
Many many thanks to you and all for giving me so many great ideas
Xin Wang

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coolbreeze says...
Hey All,

Markmelb - Dunno if you're still around the forum but... Great looking eggplant trees you have there. The best I've seen amongst Australian growers. Are they still alive at this time?
How did your next project get along? You mentioned multi-grafting a tamarillo in your front yard. Would love an update if you ended up going ahead with it. Sorry, this is going back a wee bit as I am referring to an earlier post in February 2016.

Have read most threads about grafting eggplant trees on this site and it seems there has been more failures and giving up than there has been successes. Which is a bummer!

Is there anyone else out there with successful eggplant trees? Would love to hear your experiences and ask many questions about the matter.



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Markmelb says...
My Devils Apple is still alive but grafted eggplant doesnt survive winter so need to do late spring every year, Didnt do last year but redid it a bit late a couple weeks ago.
Has to be flushing - use firm to hard scion - remove leaves - wrap with parafilm find a 1 to 2 cm branch and do a wedge graft - put plastic bag over (make sure cambium meets at least on one side) Mine has taken and have hardened with a split bag for a week and now its free to grow albeit a bit late in season now.
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Time: 6th February 2018 10:39am

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coolbreeze says...
Hi Markmelb,
I'm kind of shocked to hear that the eggplant dies back every winter. I thought the whole purpose of making an eggplant tree was so that you would enjoy the plant long term. Is there benefits from re-grafting every year versus just growing eggplants normally?
I also have a grafted plant successfully growing at the moment. My very first one and like you, I used a wedge graft and also covered with a plastic bag. However, I didn't wrap the entire scion. Only wrapped the actual grafting point. I guess as long as the cambiums sits flush together and is tightly wrapped - it'll most likely work. Even with minor differences.
Still feeling bummed hearing they die back every winter though. What are the chances of them surviving the winter and living longer up here in Brissy?



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Time: 7th February 2018 1:57pm

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