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banana varieties, we`re missing out!

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snottiegobble starts with ...
Take a look at this lot available in America!
Below are over 100
named banana varieties

1. Banana "Abissinian" (Ensete ventricosum)
2. Banana "Red Abissinian" (Ensete maurelli)
3. Banana 'African Rhino Horn'
4. Banana 'Apple' (Manzano)
5. Banana 'Balbisiana'
6. Banana 'Basjoo'
7. Banana beccarii (red flowering)
8. Banana 'Belle' (Pisang Raja type)
9. Banana 'Balbisiana'
10. Banana 'Bordelon'
11. Banana 'Brazilian'
12. Banana 'Brown's Red'
13. Banana 'Burmese Blue'
14. Banana 'Cardaba'
15. Banana coccinea "Flowering Banana"
16. Banana 'Double' (Mahoi)
17. Banana 'Dwarf Brazilian'
18. Banana 'Dwarf Cavendish'
19. Banana 'Dwarf Cuban Red' (Dwarf Jamaican)
20. Banana 'Dwarf French Plantain'
21. Banana 'Dwarf Green Red' (Dwarf Jamaican)
22. Banana 'Dwarf Jamaican/Cuban Green'
23. Banana 'Dwarf Namwah'
24. Banana 'Dwarf Namwah Pearl'
25. Banana 'Dwarf Nino'
26. Banana 'Dwarf Orinoco'
27. Banana 'Dwarf Puerto Rican Plantain'
28. Banana 'Dwarf Red Jamaican'
29. Banana 'Dwarf Thai'
30. Banana 'Ebun Musak'
31. Banana 'Ele Ele'
32. Banana 'FHIA 17' (Cavendish type)
33. Banana 'FHIA 18' (Manzano type)
34. Banana 'FHIA 20"
35. Banana 'FHIA 21" Plantain
36. Banana 'FHIA 23' (Gros Michel type)
37. Banana 'FHIA SH3008'
38. Banana 'French Horn'
39. Banana 'Giant Plantain'
40. Banana 'Goldfinger' (FHIA 1)
41. Banana 'Gran Nain'
42. Banana 'High Color Mini'
43. Banana 'Hua Moa' (Plantain)
44. Banana 'Ice Cream' (Blue Java)
45. Banana 'Itinerans'
46. Banana 'Kalela' (similar to Dwarf Brazilian)
47. Banana 'Kandarian' (Cooking type)
48. Banana 'Kofi' (Dessert type)
49. Banana 'Kru'
50. Banana 'Kummunaba'
51. Banana 'Lady Finger' (not really one variety)
52. Banana 'lasiocarpa (Musella) "Chinese Yellow"
53. Banana 'Manzano' (Apple)
54. Banana 'Misi Luki' (Dessert, excellent taste)
55. Banana 'Mona Lisa' (FHIA 2)
56. Banana 'Monkey Fingers'
57. Banana 'Mysore'
58. Banana 'Namwa' (Kluai Namwa; Pisang Awak)
59. Banana 'Nino'
60. Banana 'Orinoco'
61. Banana ornata 'African Red' (ornamental)
62. Banana ornata 'Bronze' (ornamental)
63. Banana ornata 'Macro' (ornamental)
64. Banana ornata 'Milky Way' (ornamental)
65. Banana ornata 'Royal Pink' (ornamental)
66. Banana ornata 'Royal Purple' (ornamental)
67. Banana ornata 'Royal Red' (ornamental)
68. Banana 'Pace' (improved Goldfinger)
69. Banana 'Pisan Ceylon' (improved Mysore)
70. Banana 'Pitogo'
71. Banana 'Popoulu'
72. Banana 'Praying Hands'
73. Banana 'Rajapuri'
74. Banana 'Red Iholene'
75. Banana 'Red Jewell'
76. Banana 'Red Tall'
77. Banana 'Rojo' (Musa zebrina)
78. Banana 'Rowe Red'
79. Banana 'Saba' (Pisang Kepok)
80. Banana Sikkimensis (Himalayan/Indian Banana)
81. Banana 'Sum X Cross'
82. Banana 'Sumatrana X 'Zebrina' (Rojo)
83. Banana 'Super Dwarf'
84. Banana 'Super Plantain'
85. Banana 'Sweetheart' (FHIA 3)
86. Banana 'Tall Red' (Jamaican Tall Red)
87. Banana 'Thousand Fingers'
88. Banana 'Tuu Ghia'
89. Banana velutina "Pink Flowering Banana"
90. Banana 'White Iholene'
91. Banana 'Williams Hybrid'
92. Banana 'Zan Moreno'
93. Banana '1780' (Cavendish type)
94. Ornamental, Musa coccine
95. Ornamental, Musa ensete
96. Ornamental, Musa sumatrana
97. Ornamental, Musa velutina
98. Ornamental, Musa violcea
99. Ornamental, Musa Pitomba
100. Ornamental, Musa Rust
101. Ornamental, Musa Thousand Fingers
102. Ornamental, Musa Yellow
103. Ornamental, Musa Zabrina
104. Plantain+Fruit, Musa African Rhino Horn
105. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Haa-Haa
106. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Horse (or Buro)
107. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Iholena (red)
108. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Iholena (white)
109. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Orinoco
110. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Orinoco Dwarf
111. Plantain+Fruit, Musa Saba
112. Plantain Cardaba
113. Plantain Ele Ele "Hawaiian Black Banana"
114. Plantain Fehi of Fe'l
115. Plantain French Horn
116. Plantain Giant Plantain
117. Puerto Rican Dwarf
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coastie says...
Good morning, # 1 is available in Aus. I have it growing, I grew it from seed but the fruit is inedible, the leaves are beautiful....maroon blotches over them.
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trikus says...
DPI in Nambour have a massive collection , though most is in vitro .. can be difficult to get anything from them .
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Jo says...
I grow the following in Melbourne:

Musa sikkimensis, Musa itinerans, Musa basjoo, Musa velutina, Musa zebrina.
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Phil. says...
Hi Jo,
I've seen Musa Zebrina in the USA and they were beautiful.
Where did you get yours.
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jo says...
Hi Phil,
I got mine from either the local nursery here (Garden R Us), or Bunnings . (cant remember which though). I dont know what species it is. Did you mean to say that my plant is Musa Zebrina? Do we have such species in Australia?
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BJ says...
Zebrina is in Australia. I've seen them around and listed on ebay from time to time. There is also an edible dwarf that grows to around 1.8m, has a huge bunch that hangs to the ground, tastes like lady finger and has a super thick trunk - its suckers look quite a bit like zebrina when small.
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Diana says...
Yes, it is a bit strange that we have so little access to varieties now, considering that Cape York, PNG and southeast Asia is the area where bananas originated.
It seems that they have been cultivated for 7000-10000 years in PNG http://apscience.org.au/projects/PBF_02_3/pbf_02_3.htmhttp://apscience.org.au/projects/PBF_02_3/pbf_02_3.htm> Surely there are disease resistant species (there are plenty of sexually reproducing ones). I have never seen Australian native ones for sale, although lots of other Cape York bush food is.
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Kathy says...
There's red dacca too - I just tried some at a Glasshouse Mountains (Qld) roadside stall - they are selling for a farmer nearby.
I was thinking of trying these - they are sweet - but they do have a sort of 'odd' aftertaste - but not unpleasant - sort of like cinnamon and coriander and ???
Kathy
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trikus says...
55. Banana 'Mona Lisa' (FHIA 2)
40. Banana 'Goldfinger' (FHIA 1)
are both here .. Diana , do not think any native spp. are edible . Ones I have seen are full of seeds and tiny ..many got sprayed in recent disease control programs .
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
#44 is also here, Blue Java (Ice Cream banana). My first bunch is slowly ripening - hope they live up to expectation
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snottiegobble says...
Good luck with it Phil, be interesting to see your opinion on the taste. Many americans are fanatical on growing bananas( see Bananas.org ) just like aspidistras in old English hallways ( symbols of middle class values( Wiki) there is no hope of ever getting fruit, the plant is a novelty so leaf variation & colour are paramount! Not true of course in Southern states where edible banana fruit are easily produced.
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Diana says...
Hi Trikus,

According to the wet tropics management authority, native banana species are edible and sweet (although seedy), see the bush tucker of the wet tropics fact sheet at

http://www.wettropics.gov.au/st/rainforest_explorer/Library/factsheetsTTs.htm>

I think there are several wild species that are edible in PNG and the Solomons too.

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Cairns says...
Musa banksii is the common native species with upward pointing fruit.I have grown them from seeds I have picked up.The fruit are small loaded with hard black seeds and the flesh is a pale shadow of cultivated ones.Flying foxes,birds,striped possums and other wildlife seem to enjoy them.
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trikus says...
Half an hour spitting out seeds for a teaspoon of flesh !! As with most bush tucker a complete waste of time .
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Diana says...
Yes there's something to be said for improvement through breeding. e.g. there is a section in Charles Darwin's 'The Variation of Animals and Plants Under Domestication' on gooseberries. They were transformed into a commercial fruit in his lifetime. He says 'the most interesting point in the history of the gooseberry is the steady increase in size of the fruit'.
The wild gooseberry weighs about 5g. The fruit was cultivated in the early middle ages and stayed small until the 1770s, when there was a "gooseberry renaissance", as inhabitants of northern England (e.g. Manchester, Lancashire) became obsessed with competitive gardening. Darwin looked at the annual published growers register and competition results, and he notes that under the incentive of large-scale competitions with prize money, the weight doubled in 1786, tripled in 1817, increased six-fold by 1825, seven-fold by 1844, and eight-fold (the maximum possible it seems) in 1852. He interpreted this as partly due to training branches and roots, making compost, mulching and fruit-thinning, but mainly selection of seedlings with the largest fruit.
80 years to breed a modern commercial fruit from a little wild-like fruit (he mentions 'roaring lion' as an 1844 one- this is sold by Diggers). It's an impressive wild fruit that can compete from the word go. Macadamias and finger limes already have lots of improved varieties of course- the potential is out there for more species.
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Mike says...
That's right Diana with selection big improvements are possible.Darwin and Mendel had simplistic understandings of genetics by our standards but the principles were in place a long time ago and look at how far apples have come.Mutants and polyploids have also pitched in with improvements.You do need a big seed disperser to make the fruit develop and rich enough soil in the first place.Avos and mangoes are aimed at big animals that are now extinct.
I reckon there is scope for improving some of our natives but we're at the 'shallow end' of the gene pool and it would be a challenge over along time.
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trikus says...
But why bother when we already have in excess off 200 fantastic edible large fruiting cultivars ?
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John Mc says...
Here's some varieties I'm growing here.

18. Banana 'Dwarf Cavendish'

40. Banana 'Goldfinger'

44. Banana 'Ice Cream' (Blue Java)

69. Banana 'Pisan Ceylon' (improved Mysore) (should read Pisang)

89. Banana velutina "Pink Flowering Banana"

73. Banana 'Rajapuri'

83. Banana 'Super Dwarf'

Choui Cau or could be also known as
56. Banana 'Monkey Fingers' or
87. Banana 'Thousand Fingers'
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John I. says...
John Mc, what are the Rajapuri like?
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John Mc says...
The Rajapuri has only been in 6 months. It bared winter very well and is now in good growth at around 1.8m. The leaves are very large compared to all the other varieties I have. They look like they can barely hold themselves up, they bend over about a third of the way up the leaf and mostly point downwards from there.
I'll go up the back and get a recent photo of it tomorrow if I have time and post it up.
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Jo says...
Ha, bit of 'which Jo' confusion there, Jo!

He wasn't talking about your plant, but my M zebrina mentioned above. M zeb is not here 'officially', but people have them here and there. Mine came from a Brissy guy who was subsequently visited by the DPI - who killed all his plants. After 3 years, I have about 12 plants. i

They grow well in warmer months down here and slack off in winter. My true cold-hardy species (sikkimensis, basjoo etc) don't notice the cold.

Keep 'em away from the subtropics though - could be really invasive if it escapes.
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David says...
how can i email UserID: 6125. As I am interested in getting some banana seeds of him/her if posible

I already grow Banana "Abissinian"

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Jo says...
Hi Dave, you can email me at cutandpolish@optusnet.com.au Cheers Jo
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Klint says...
Hi Cairns,

That native banana is so hard to find anywhere - are you open to posting some seeds to Sydney? happy to pay for them!
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gardenut says...
I have grown Abissinian Banana tress (palms) for 40 years in WA which is ornamental and 3 species of fruiting Bananas .I have 3 Abissinians left waiting for them to flower and seed past 7 years.Has anyone got any seeds of any species I can buy?
I ordered 40 Abassinian seeds a few days ago from USA but my money was returned yesterday I guess because of Quarantine reasons. I used to buy them from Florida without any trouble.Can you help my as my wife and I just love growing to
tropical palnts ina non tropical area here in WA
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Laisla says...
Im in Sydney. I am growing:

- Pacific Plantain
- Bluggoe
- Gros Michel (the old, more flavorsome banana prior to Cavendish, rare nowadays)
- Cavendish
- Senorita
- Lady Finger
- Musa Ornata (Thai purple)
- Musa Velutina
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Would you swap any of them for a Blue Java and Dwarf Ducasse or Goldfinger?
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bushregenerator says...
H Laisla
I would be keen to swap some of your surplus banana pups (if any) for some of mine, or for other fruit trees or fruit and veg. I am trying to establish a range of bananas at my farm (NOT in the banana quarantine area).
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gardenut says...
Need seeds of Abyssinian Banana s
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Salsta says...
Hi Laisla

I'd love to grow a Gros Michel here in Victoria (in a no frost zone).

If you can spare a pup, I'd be more than happy to pay for postage or I could send you some rhubarb or perhaps a fig cutting in return if you'd like.
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Salsta says...
Hi Phil

If you have surplus Blue Java and Dwarf Ducasse or Goldfinger pups, I'm hoping to grow these three bananas here too.

Again, if you can spare a pup, I'd be more than happy to pay for postage or I could send you some rhubarb or perhaps a fig cutting in return if you'd like.
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sternus1 says...
I have blue Java (thanks phil) Red Dacca, Musa V (Thanks John) and an unidentified dwarf that isn't ducasse.
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Salsta says...
Hi John Mc

If you have surplus Blue Java, Pisang Ceylon or Goldfinger pups, I'm hoping to grow these three bananas here too.

Again, if you can spare a pup, I'd be more than happy to pay for postage or I could send you some rhubarb or perhaps a fig cutting in return if you'd like.
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fruitlovermyles says...
Wow John mc how did you end up with blue java I remember looking online for it but the site said we don't/can't ship to nsw anymore do have a sources to get some? Thanks myles
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JohnMc1 says...
Hey Myles, I might be able to help you out when I get enough suckers for stock. The Blue Java and others have been in drought conditions for quite a while now. last weekend, I had my dam dug out to four times larger because I pumped it dry twice in the last 6 months. I'll give you a shoutout when I dig one up.
I got mine through www.backyardbananas.com.au/
They could only send me what looked like two blades of grass in plastic vials. Now they are large and starting to produce suckers, if only it would rain.
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fruitlovermyles says...
hi john that would be great if you help me out when have some blue java stock and yes rain dammit rain! if you ever have some here is my email: metaladdict@live.com.au unless you would prefer some other form of contact?
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BenW says...
Hi There

I was hoping someone in Victoria might have some Musa sikkimensis,Musa basjoo or Ensete Ventricosum to sell or trade (I tried Jo's email listed above and the address is no longer active).
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sternus1 says...
Basjoo is a pretty low quality banana, definitely not up there for fresh eating. I have some very small thai varieties which are very good.
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Jo says...
Hi Ben, just noticed this. I do have a number of potted Musa at the moment. Sikkimensis, itinerans. Basjoo pup is possible.

Email me at palmaculture@icloud.com.
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BenW says...
Hi Sternus

I have a few varieties of edible banana which winter in the greenhouse and even survive outside in sheltered spots but a couple of truly cold tolerant ones for landscaping value are what I'm looking for here.

I am in a cool mountain location with almost daily frost in winter and annual snow, so my options are limited :)

Are your thai varieties dwarf or are the fruit small (I'm assuming dwarf...)?


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sternus1 says...
I only have one dwarf banana, I don't know what it is. I have praying hand etc.
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Skirret says...
Hi, can anyone identify this banana please? I have researched and come across some photos close to it which are of the Bluggoe type but would be grateful if anyone can ID positively. Thank you
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trikus says...
look very much like Bluggoe
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Cas1 says...
Hi Everyone
I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm looking for the Musa paradisiaca (plantain - cooking banana).
Anyone have any idea where I could get a pup?

Thanks
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trikuslaptop1 says...
source listed only 5 posts up ...
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Cas1 says...
Hi trikuslaptop1
Was that backyardbananas or the email to Jo at palmaculture?
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trikuslaptop1 says...
http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/order.html
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Sandy says...
Hi Would anyone like to share banana pups with me .I m in Melbourne. Thanks.
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Jo Troposphere says...
Hi all, I'm still growing several super hardy ornamental bananas in Melbourne. Have limited qtys for sale.

Musa basjoo (Japanese Fibre Banana) seeds, pups
Musa sikkimensis (Darjeeling Banana) ex ground
Musa itinerans (Yunnan Banana) pots, ex ground
Also grow Musa zebrina ( Blood Banana) - pups available in October.
https://www.facebook.com/tropospheregardens

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JohnMc1 says...
Always had an interest in the Musa basjoo, do you have any pups for sale? and what sort of money are we looking at? I'm in NSW between Sydney/Newcastle.
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Jo Troposphere says...
Hadn't thought about postage, John. Usually pickup only. Basjoo pups get too tall to post without chopping back.
This year I have a few extra numbers of basjoo pups after removing some old plants. See pics showing larger first year plant ($80), bigger pups that will be harvested and potted up ($50) and in the last pic , there's one little guy attached to a nice block of corm. That one is postable. I'll say $50 inc postage and handling.
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JohnMc1 says...
Thanks Jo, I didn't know they were in Australia. Happy to pay your price as long as it's the real thing. I've read that they are very slender like the Ornata and Veluntina? also have a beautiful flower head?


Would you mind contacting me at

coastalskylight at bigponddotcom

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Joh says...
Hi Jo

I collect banana trees, can you help

Regards

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Jo @ Tropgardens says...
Sorry Joh, but you are in the exclusion zone, are you not ?

Happy to be corrected, but I don't think it's legal for me to post bananas to where you are.
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Joh says...
I am fortunate that i am just inside the inclusion zone, as 15k's north of me on the highway there's a massive sign says no banana plants pass this piont
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Jo @ Tropgardens says...
ok, that's lucky for a banana collector! I do sell some species, don't usually post them - except for pieces of corm with new shoots attached.
Blood banana is out, though - I won't send it to subtropics as it has invasive potential.Tried to posted a message on your forum page, but having a problem.
You can message me on my page Troposphere Gardens. Otherwise, email me at palmaculture@icloud.com
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trikuslaptop1 says...
You are smack in the middle of the 'Southern' zone Joh .. we are not allowed these exotics anywhere in QLD
http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/south.html
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Jo @ Tropgardens says...
Thanks for the clarification! I checked last night and saw this was the case. Sorry Joh, no go.
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Salsta says...
Sandy, I have several cool climate varieties. I'm happy to share pups if you can come to Drouin to get them.
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trekwithleena says...
Do you still have Gros Michel Banana Trees? would you be willing to sell and send by post?
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siva says...
I want grow in backyard Gros Michel banana. do you have one plant?
Thanks
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JohnMc1 says...
Gros Michel is all but impossible to find. Been looking for years. They are around, but no-one is willing to sell them, at virtually any cost.
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JohnMc1 says...
Has anyone had any luck sourcing a Gros Michele as yet? I have a couple of leads but nothing to show so far. Have many varieties to swap or pay cash, happy either way.
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