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Tom starts with ... Hi all, Wondering if anyone know's where I could buy a Betel Leaf Vine? I'm doing a lot of Asian cooking calling for them. Not related to Betel Nut of course, which is illegal in Australia! I think the formal name is Piper betle (a member of the pepper family). Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Tom | About the Author Tom2 Newcastle 2nd January 2008 6:27pm #UserID: 138 Posts: 6 View All Tom2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Irma says... Hi, the botanic name is Piper longum sy. P. sarmentosum; comm. name La lot, Vietnamese name. You can buy this in Asian veg. shops; put some cuttings in a glass with water and they will be producing roots in no time. The plant likes a wet dark position protected from frost and midday sun; best under big trees. Regards, Irma. | About the Author Irma Eltham 2nd January 2008 7:55pm #UserID: 534 Posts: 10 View All Irma's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Tom2 Newcastle 6th March 2008 12:51pm #UserID: 138 Posts: 6 View All Tom2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tran says... These plants go wild from Brisbane to Cairns. I have seen Vietnamese shops in Melbourne selling it for $1.50 a bunch. Irma is right you buy a bunch remove leaves except top bit and recut the bottom and put in a glass jar then it will root as describe by Irma. I understand that it would be hard to find them in your local shops but try to buy them when you have a chance to go to sydney or Brisbane but only where lots of Vietnamese live. They use in ormelet and for wraping mince meat. | About the Author VIC 6th March 2008 7:23pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tran says... Hi Tom, In tropical QLD this plant is spreading everywhere because once a stem touches the ground, roots just form. I would choose a bunch that has more sort of long sermi hard wood stems. You could see that at the joint of a stem there would be some roots just started to appear. Remove big leaves for cooking then recut a bit at the bottom so water can go through the stem then put in a glass jar fill with water. To speed it up you should use water with a touch of warmness to help speeding the process. Good luck. | About the Author VIC 7th March 2008 7:21am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Tom2 Newcastle 8th May 2008 7:10pm #UserID: 138 Posts: 6 View All Tom2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Andrea says... Hi Glenn, Yes had it recently at: Thai Rim Nam, 2 Cremona Road, Como (sydney south) Ph: 9528.2700. Great spot on sunny day to sit on terrace with views towards Georges River. First time had Mieng Kam and now trying to source Betel leaves in Sydney south. If you know anywhere.....want to make it myself. Delicious!!! | About the Author Andrea Barnett Sydney 7th June 2008 3:21pm #UserID: 1021 Posts: 5 View All Andrea Barnett's Edible Fruit Trees |
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siklopz says... Betel leaf is tropical and hardy (hard to kill but not cold hardy). contrary to the above, once the cutting has grown a good set of roots it will do fine in full sun although you should probably give it some afternoon shade if the sun is harsh where you live. i keep mine in a hanging basket with a SW exposure which is full afternoon sun where i live (40 degrees north approximately). also, keep the plant in a well draining mix and water frequently when it is hot-evenly moist. | About the Author siklopz usa 14th July 2008 6:51pm #UserID: 1159 Posts: 1 View All siklopz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... Betel Leaf vine grows like mad in Brisbane. Who said Betel Nut is illegal in Australia. Here is a photo of the Betel Nut ingredients I took recently. The long green "sticks" are the fruits of the Betel Leaf Vine. They are used instead of the leaves. Not shown is the lime powder. The other photo shows the real tree with fruits.
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Tran says... I think there is a confusion with this betel leaf and nuts. They are totally different. Betel leaf (Trikus picture 1) is from a GROUND COVER plant. Leaves are mainly used in wrapping meat similarly to grape vine leaves. In Thai and Vietnamse cooking we use it sometimes. It has a special herby smell. betel nut (pic 1, 2, 3) is used with lime powder and a kind of vine leaves look very much like betel leaves but much lighter in colour and it is from a VINE (NOT FROM A GROUND COVER). People chew a piece of roll made up of a vine betel leaf, a piece of betel nut and a touch of lime powder. When you chew the roll your mouth will turn red. They say it is good for your teeth because of lime powder. In Vietnam, betel leaf vine climb on betel nut palm. | About the Author Melbourne 17th October 2008 6:00pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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tr says... tran , you are so correct , must admit had a little laugh at the comment of being able to grow a palm from a piper leaf , wow anon , must be GOD to be able to do that .. and as far as I know Areca catechu is still a legal plant , damn there are tens of thousands growing up here . I know they do struggle out of the tropics and may not bear well even in Brisbane . Many other Areca spp. are used for similar stimulant effects , some even reputably stronger . One has a very attractive red crownshaft A. macrocalyx and has been spread far and wide . Another similar looking palm Actinorhytis calapparia has much larger seeds and has supposedly magical medicinal powers . | About the Author peter12 19th October 2008 8:08am #UserID: 1019 Posts: 38 View All peter12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... Tran and tr, I am having a good laugh at of your command of English. I have read through all the messages posted here before mine and no one had shown any erronous misunderstanding between Betel Nut and Betel Leaf. If you were laughing at my message, read my message again repeatedly and tell me which wordings of my message show my "confusion"? I know who you are "tr". | About the Author 19th October 2008 3:14pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... the 4th post down , someone has posted ; aNON says... your not supposed to have the leaf cos then you can grow the nut. enjoy your informative posts 'fruitist' and in now way was I denigrating anything you said . I wonder why I am listed as being Tr sometimes instead of trikus .. maybe when I use IE instead of Firefox . I think the leaf in question should be called Piper leaf and not betle leaf , that just leads to so much confusuion . I hate common names for uncommon plants. | About the Author Trikus Tully 19th October 2008 9:31pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... Trikus, thought you got "confused" with my post judging from the fact that no one responded to the 4th post for many months. Instead of using the Betel Leaves, natives in Borneo used Pepper leaves. Years ago, my neighbour in Borneo had some Pepper vines and Iban ladies used to ask for some leaves when they passed by the house. | About the Author 20th October 2008 8:46am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... Interesting that the Areca catechu palm can start bearing at 5 or 6 years old for about 20 years. Thereafter it become sterile for another 30 years until it dies. You can buy the whole package in Cairns Rusty market. There is only 1 stall that sells it. It is not easy to find but you won't miss it if you walk past it. You will see a few dark skin ladies sitting much behind the table doing nothing. The stall sells only that stuff. | About the Author 1st November 2008 1:32pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Adam says... Although the culinary herb is called "Betel Leaf" it is a different species of pepper (Piper genus) that that used to wrap betel nuts. The latter is Piper betle. The culinary herb is Piper sarmentosum. I'm not sure if this is exactly the same thing as Piper longum (Long Pepper) in which the dried fruit is used as a spice. You can buy plants for Piper longum(Long pepper), Piper methysticum (Kava Kava, used for making Kava), Piper nigrum (culinary black pepper), Piper sarmentosum (culinary betel leaf) from "All rare herbs". | About the Author Adam Melbourne 10th November 2008 3:51pm #UserID: 1613 Posts: 110 View All Adam's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Andrew Cavanagh says... When they're cultivated cuttings are taken from the top of the mature fine about 1 metre long with at least 3 of the lobes (a 1 metre cutting is likely to have a whole lot more than that). The vine cutting is buried with one lobe underground and one lobe at ground level (both will root). Here in Cairns the plant grows like a weed and is a very attractive ground cover. | About the Author Andrew Cavanagh www.permaculturecairns.com 29th December 2008 7:40pm #UserID: 1797 Posts: 2 View All Andrew Cavanagh's Edible Fruit Trees |
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rev says... so which is in the flecker botanic park betel or longum? i also read that the native bangalow palm ( Archontophoenix) has arecoline ins the seeds and is used in PNG ther active alkaloid in betel chews is reported in the literature have both antiparasitic effects (esp tapeworms) and also increase learning ability good stuff in moderation | About the Author Rev 1st January 2009 5:05pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... Andrew Go to Machans beach theres a house on the same street near the post office the la lot is spilling out under the fence into the nature strip. Or just prune fleckers groundcover patch i checked the plant at flecker and its la lot i picked up a P nigrum in Innisfail $11 - and a good size P longum P cubeb P methysticum P auritum P novae-hollandiae are all available mail order or pickup one place or another in Australia so where do I find living plants of the real B betel - for chewing | About the Author Rev North Queensland 21st January 2009 1:18pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Andrew Cavanagh says... Chris the plant is growing as a ground cover in front of the Cairns central shopping centre. If you carefully grabbed a few cuttings from there no one would ever notice the difference or care (if you take cuttings from where the gardeners will have to cut it back you will be saving them a little work). You can also buy the plant from Limberlost nursery in Redlynch (near the train station). And it grows at the botanical gardens at Centenary Lakes (so you can identify it. | About the Author Andrew Cavanagh 21st January 2009 1:28pm #UserID: 1797 Posts: 2 View All Andrew Cavanagh's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... Black tea will also increase risk of throat cancer. And coffee will increase your risk of bladder cancer. but most of us wont get these cancers. Heavy use puts you at higher risk. Betel doesnt rot teeth. It damages the gums through the excessive use of burnt lime, which is there to liberate the Arecoline in the nut. This is in heavy users!not social users The receded gums then expose the teeth. Betel has a reputation of strengthening the teeth, which it probably does by the lime addition supplying calcium to the diet, by the antibacterial activity of the betel pepper and by neutralisng the acid in the mouth. There would be many factors in oral health in betel chewing areas - diet, lack of dental services, diets rich in sugar - Asian countries IME have a sweeter tooth than Australia. as for cosmetics. Thats cultural.White teeth are not natural either for an adult - but our youth centred culture still aspires to it. Stained mouth or stained tooth is considered attractive in traditional communities, some blacken the teeth.A betel chewer will have a clean mouth and no tapeworms! Betel chewing is ritually associated with both hygiene and hospitality the effect of Arecoline is like nicotine. mild stimulating and appropriate for company | About the Author Rev North qld 13th February 2009 12:43pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... I now have both P sarmentosum and what i beliwve is the true P betel from another online vendor I can confirm yet, but it is not the same as the culinary leaf plant i collected in cairns. The leaf is more coarse and its definitley a vine. It is not P nigrum as i have that too. in the past ive been sold P kadsura as P betel. This plant is young so im hesitant to make a call till it gets a chance to grow full sized leaves. By the end size of the leaf it will help me rule out P kadsura. | About the Author Rev North qld 13th February 2009 12:51pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dr.Ganesh Bhat says... Hi Rev, I fully support your opinion about chewing betel leaf+Arecanut+lime. In moderation it will not have any ill effects on health. My father in India has been chewing the same during the last fity years or so. In India it is called "paan beeda". People chewing "paan" after lunch or dinner is very common. There will be a "paan beeda" stall near every restaurant in India. The social ill effect is spitting the left out chew is just like spitting chewing gum or tossing the cigarette butts. Will u pls tell me where can I buy the betel vine through mail order? I live in Perth. Cheers, Ganesh. | About the Author DrGanesh Bhat1 Perth 13th February 2009 4:54pm #UserID: 1628 Posts: 10 View All DrGanesh Bhat1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jonathan says... Hi Guys, I am currently trying to find Piper betel L. plant or fresh leaf in Melbourne. I am not looking for P. sarmentosum which is used in cooking as the purpose is medicinal. I have tried a few tropical nursery, specialist nurseries and herb grower with no luck (including all rare herb) Any idea where I can get some in Melbourne? Alternatively I am happy to purchase some interstate as long as I can ship it to Melbourne (i.e., only Eastern states is not limited by quarantine laws) Thanks in advance | About the Author Jonathan2 Melbourne 14th February 2009 11:59am #UserID: 1982 Posts: 2 View All Jonathan2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Shipards Herb Farm lists Betel pepper and Betel leaf. www.herbsarespecial.com.au or www.herbs-to-use.com they mail order interstate. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 15th February 2009 8:35pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... which betel plant ? the one eating with the palm nut and lime ? Can't help you there . But if you meant the other one that the Asians uses to skewer meat on and BBQ with it, then not the plant but the leaves, you can get them at any Asian grocery shops, As for the plant you can either try to grow it out from the stems, or fast track. Go to Bonnirigg garden centers they have it sometime. Or you can order it direct from allrareherbs.com.au . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 2nd April 2009 11:39pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... it wasnt in melbourne it was in a suburb of cairns called machans beach. dont know the street but i know how to get there. i dont even know if theres rules bout promoting other sites off this one? havent seen anything. to be safe if you want to email me i can contact you later, and if youve already found one then all teh better reville1@gmail.com | About the Author Rev NQ 15th April 2009 5:07pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Irma says... Piper sarmentosum Roxb. is the correct name. Native to China, Cambodia, India and Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Phillippines and Vietnan. Used for wrapping food or as an ingridient for various kinds of curries. Piper betel L. the leaves are pressed togheter to dry then they are used to wrap Betel nut: Areca catechu L. The nut fresh or cured is sliced mix with lime paste and species then wrapped and chewed, this is kept in the mouth and chewed slowly. The salive turns red and is spat out. It is said to cause stimulants effects. This is a practice in South East Asia and also in some Pacific Islands such as New Guinea. I would not use Piper betel for my cooking. Irma Blanco. | About the Author Irma Eltham 15th April 2009 6:24pm #UserID: 534 Posts: 10 View All Irma's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... The inflorescence of P betel is also used in the quid, i think for added flavour. Islanders and Papuans called it 'Mustard' or other names. http://www.wikihow.com/Chew-Betel-Nut-in-Papua-New-Guinea | About the Author Rev NQ 18th April 2009 4:22pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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rev says... Sorry bimalendu but our 'quarantine matters' govt policy sees it fit to import grain, GMO grain meal and pulse meal easily on a commercial basis ( see where your dry soup beans come from) but you cant import it to grow or for personal use the bad news is for importers the good news is that we can grow most of what we need here its just very few have yet | About the Author Rev fnq 9th July 2009 8:08pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Marc says... Hey Ellen, I actually tried that, but it didn't work. How long does the stem have to be? Because I got betel leaves and cut of its small stem, and planted that stem in a pot with good nutritional soil. But it didn't work, I attempted that many times. but still no luck. Got any suggestions? | About the Author Marc3 Toronto, Ontario, Canada 27th September 2009 2:51am #UserID: 2581 Posts: 4 View All Marc3's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Hi Marc I hoped you didn't exposed your propagated Betel cuttings pot out in winter time when you've tried it. As Canadian winter is much harsher than a DownUnder's winter. Take a look at my betel leave plant, that is 2 years old. When you try to propage through cuttings, choose stalk that is a bit bulky at where the leaves going to spurt out (where I mark #1)Or It is also here is where the roots will spring out from if you bury this into the soil deep enough . Now I know Canadian winter is quite long, your propagated betel plant-pot cannot be place outside but if you don't have green house then place it where it does get plenty of sunlight/light (place it against a window pane but not touch it since you don't want the coldness to transfer through the pot touching the window glass surface) Now I've seen how those asian groceries package these herbs, you don't have much choice when choosing to buy asian herbs, freshness is almost nada . But the older the stalk/cutting you choose for propagating the better the successful rate it will be Marc. After you choose your victims to propagate, slightly cut the stalks below where I marked #1 in the picture, leaving it 2-3 cm before it reach#1. Now dilute your your soak water with liquid root stimulator grow hormone according to instuction on the bottle. Soak your cuttings in a glass with the diluted growth hormone, make sure the liquid covered 1-2 cm passed #1 mark. & leave it soaking for 3 days . Then plant it in pot with good potting mixed soil that is prepared earlier. After planting it in the prepared pot, give it a good watering. And place it near a glass window so it can get plenty of sunlight / light, every 2-3 days give it a bit of water to keep the soil moist (not soak) . It will take off for you. Once it is growing, even in summer time you do not put this plant in the ground in the exposed environment, b/c you only have 1 month of good growing season the rest of the summer is windy, this plant can't take that kind of abuse. You only expose it outside, to get rid of the aphids, as all indoor plant, over a period of time the tend to build up with it . That what me and my mom do when I was back home in Alberta. Too bad you're so far away, other wise I'd give you this pot (the plant in the picture) And the stalk/cutting have to be from 15 - 20 cm.
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Rev says... heres the import regulations for Piper betel http://www.aqis.gov.au/icon32/asp/ex_casecontent.asp?intNodeId=8851358&intCommodityId=6263&Types=none&WhichQuery=Go+to+full+text&intSearch=1&LogSessionID=0 | About the Author Rev North qld 27th September 2009 5:59pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... no no no piper longum is long pepper piper sarnmentosa is p. sarmentosum p betle is p betle syd bot had one once labeled p betle but to my surprise it was shrub-like rather than pure vine i'm growing p. nigrum, auritum, sarmentosa, an unk piper, and p arborea (?) too cold for methysicum and yet to locate longum | About the Author Recher 24th December 2009 11:30am #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... Even in Cairns markets i coulkdnt get leaf they have the nuts - there seems a few types with the PNG ones renowned to be stronger other look more like the longer asian types i saw in Bali this summer they had the fruits of P betel though, the 'mustard', which can substitute for leaf in flavour but fall short in other ways i picked a ripe bunch so i hope ill be able to grow seedlings from them Ive recently planted some piper longum, though might be P retrofractum, in fact im suspect of the latter being identity. great spice! sweet and hot The piper ive seen most commonly mislabelled in both horticulture and botanic gdns as P betel is piper kadsura | About the Author Rev North Qld 12th February 2010 1:48pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sohail says... I want to start farming of betel leaves. Can any one guide me on the following. -How many plants per acre should I plant. Hoa many leaves I can expect from each plant per annum. -What average weight of each leaf can I expect. -How much yield per acre per annum can I expect. From where can i buy mother plants. Thanks for your support. regards, Sohail | About the Author Sohail Pakistan 7th March 2010 12:51am #UserID: 3455 Posts: 2 View All Sohail's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jessica foo says... Hi I am looking for anyone in WA who is willing to sell me a pot of this betel leaf plant. I have tried some websites in eastern states but due to quarantine measures they don't send them to WA. It would be great if anyone could help. My email address is foodie_jess@yahoo.com.sg Thank you | About the Author perth 21st March 2010 1:11pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ram says... Hi Divay, I have started harvesting betel leave on my farm since 1 month. The demand is overwhelming. Buyers come (to my farm) with labour and pluck betel-leaves at their own cost. We are paid Rs. 375 per basket of 3000 leaves. Every buyer (without exception) has said our betel-leaf is much superior. All happening beyond my expectation. My farm is in Mehboobnagar district, Andhra Pradesh. | About the Author Ram 9th April 2010 6:02pm #UserID: 2828 Posts: 3 View All Ram's Edible Fruit Trees |
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divay says... hi saliva im a businessman in india new delhi dealing in wholesale trading of betel leaves and betel nuts.would like to have a sample of the leaves u sell so that i can order in bulk in future.9810062611..this is my mobile numb.let me know how we can go bout it.pls send me the pricing from yur end.my email id is divaydua@hotmail.com | About the Author divay india,new delhi 25th April 2010 8:36pm #UserID: 3534 Posts: 13 View All divay's Edible Fruit Trees |
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rev says... hey mohammed youve matched the wrong pics again you want paan but that picture is Piper sarmentosum ive got som P betel seedlings now i bougha ripe fruit from rusties market in cairns where the papuan ladies sell their wares i planted it and now that its rotted many pepper seedlingsare coming up in a bunch | About the Author Rev north qld 10th May 2010 1:56pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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divay says... hi mohammed yes ofcourse i can send you the desired quantities.you have to provide me the details of the receiver.the consignment can be send through air/train.also provide me the details of how will you make the payments of the sale and i shall send you the consignments at the cheapest price regards divay | About the Author divay india,new delhi 11th May 2010 3:45pm #UserID: 3534 Posts: 13 View All divay's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nitin says... Please see that water should be pass away from the soil. Muddy soil stop roots for growing. use more natural fertilizer. Maintain the temperature near 30 to 35degree centigrade. for maintaining temperatur use Polythene nets. for fertilizer use "Steramea" with "sufala". IF you use four bags stearameal use 1/2bags sufala. mix it and use for plant Regards Nitin | About the Author Nitin Patil Kelva 12th August 2010 4:20pm #UserID: 3809 Posts: 2 View All Nitin Patil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... maybe. there only two main betel leaf please entertain us with some pictures and recipes, ask some relatives im malaysia to send pictures of the herb and we can ID it Theres plenty of product of what i think you must mean in nth qld, all it needs is a demand down south Personally id like some recipes for this attractive, hardy, expansive groundcover | About the Author Rev North qld 26th August 2010 6:36pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lucas says... Helen (09/06/10), My mother in Law is from PNG and wants me to get some daka for her. I would love to purchase some. Or if anyone else has or knows where I can purchase daka from it would be greatly appreciated if you could pass on the details to me at ljwalmsley@hotmail.com Thanks, Lucas | About the Author Lucas1 Brisbane 4th October 2010 9:03am #UserID: 4334 Posts: 1 View All Lucas1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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saliva says... Hi everyone, used of the betel leaf. The betel leaf is used in a number of traditional remedies for the treatment of stomach ailments, infections, and as a general tonic. It is often chewed in combination with the betel nut (Areca catechu), as a stimulatory. Some evidence suggests that betel leaves have immune boosting properties as well as anti-cancer properties. My email address salivakumar@yahoo.com | About the Author saliva malaysia 29th November 2010 6:29pm #UserID: 1604 Posts: 3 View All saliva's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kert says... If Saliva's post were an advertiesement it would be subject to the Trade Practices Act. Said Act prohibits deceptive or misleading claims. Doubtless Mr. Saliva is safely beyond reach in Malasia and has nothing to fear. Nevertheless , is no one offended by such quackery? Betel nut is a stimulant with addictive properties . It stains the teeth and mouth and is associated strongly with cancers of the pharynx. Next time someone says how wonderful a repository of knowledge the net is ,think of Mr Saliva and ilk and their ability to give pernicious views credence. | About the Author sydney 3rd December 2010 9:31am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... he he ...just when we thought it was safe....BTW - I heard a great report from Chris Smith (Prof @ Cambridge Uni) on ABC radio this morning about studies on parasitic worm infection and autoimmune diseases....I guess you owe some folks an apology kert. :) (U can google the ABC programming list and look it up if u like..) (only 1 day later - and the 'troll' fell for the troll... :) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 3rd December 2010 3:42pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kert says... It's nice when the usual suspects behave like the usual suspects. I suppose it's not going to make a difference but antway... worms and autoimmune disease is an interesting hypothesis .;dozens of such are thrown up all the time . It happens that it has seized the imagination of some ,no doubt for its quirkiness .None of this means one should act on it . Can we wait for the double blind placebo controlled trial? Or should we swallow worms straight away because it sounds really beaut. PS Snottiegobble - can you walk us through the thought process that caused you to select your name? | About the Author sydney 3rd December 2010 4:33pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Ok kert - here are the ref's: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/current And here is the (free) podcast - can recommend this segment with Chris Smith - very interesting and easy for everday people to follow. http://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/rn-breakfast-science-chris/id285282088 The No.1 podcast (02/12) is the one. That's all I have time for kert and I am sure u can work out the details for yourself? (but I reckon you might enjoy it, in truth. It also touches on the discovery of that bacteria that lives on arsenic) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 3rd December 2010 7:22pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... Hey thanks for the extra info Amanda. A work colleague of mine was looking at getting a total colectomy (removal of bowel) earlier in the year due to ulcerative colitis - since starting the helminth therapy her symptoms have resolved and she's getting married in January. A good outcome, eh? | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 3rd December 2010 8:41pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hey - high 5 Phil... ;) That's a wonderful outcome! Hopefully soon there will be a treatment with less 'yukk' factor for her. I guess you shouldn't hold your breath for that apology though.... So - shall we get back to gardening again do u think? :)))) (ps - I think I have a crush on Chris Smith's brain actually....) And yes kert - I would rather swallow the helminths, in the interim, than have to permanently wear a colostomy bag any damn day... | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton Mid West WA 3rd December 2010 10:38pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kert says... The thing about the internet is it gives undue prominence to the bizarre and crazy. Google "Moon Landing" and you get the Psych Ward's conspiratorial rave not factual info. There must be people on this site that know what betel nut does to you and can grasp that a really good anecdote does not constitute adequate evidence for "worm therapy" but they are silenced by the prospect of being shouted down by a bunch of braying, over-confidant ignorami | About the Author sydney 4th December 2010 1:52pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kert sydney says... The level of discussion mimics that which can be found at any "Sportmans' Bar'- loud-mouthed oafs dominating and crowding out anything nuanced or informed. The Bad drives out the Good. The upshot of this is that I do not wish to engage with the above types and would ask they not respond to my posts . I will do the same . There is no reason for me to "speak" to people who ,under different circumstances , I would cross the road to avoid. | About the Author sydney 4th December 2010 2:00pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... I like the sound of Papua New Guinea grocers as places to buy plants and ingredients, but I have never seen one of these. If I found a Pacific Island grocer with Solomon Islands ingredients, I would buy some ngali nuts (the most melting and creamy textured nut anywhere). I heard a few years ago that someone was intending to commercialize them.
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snottiegobble says... Kert, my username was derived from the coloquial description of a fruit that is produced by persoona species. Attractive native understory trees that are quite common in the south of WA I just changed the "y" to "ie" Meantime please just accept for once that not all cures are pill shaped & prescribed by a doctor | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smack in the middle) 6th December 2010 3:07am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Perth Pharma says... Hey Kert, I recommend, have a proper read of the details before going on about your jargon of saliva's claims being subject to " Trade Practices Act". saliva indeed was talking about betel leaf and you were talking about the long term effects of betel nut! The nut comes off a palm tree where as the betel leaf, is completely of different species and for your information, it indeed has several medicinal properties claimed, tried and tested for several hundreds of years, including for certain types of cancers and the success was achieved again, based on the malignancy stage! P.S: Apparent from your previous posts, you are fond of references!! so here's one http://www.ayurvedictalk.com/medicinal-values-of-betel-leaf/1511/ | About the Author Perth Pharma Perth 24th April 2011 9:56pm #UserID: 5221 Posts: 1 View All Perth Pharma's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kert says... Hmmm. Not sure WhAT YOU ARE TRYING to say although it does seem you are getting your panties in a knot. Would it be impolite to say that your reference is not of the highest value . Nonetheless I am of a libertarian bent and have no problem with people doing daft or dangerous things to themselves. | About the Author sydney 25th April 2011 8:24am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Speaking of "drugs" - what is this "legal marijuana" plant that everyone is talking about? Does anyone know if it is actually a cannabis plant - or is it something else? I am not interested in using it myself - but I am very curious as to what it is exactly? (I hope no-one minds me asking this question here...) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 25th April 2011 11:40am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Saw something in the newspaper - can't remember it's name now. Out of curiosity I Googled it and it was incredibly expensive. Mind you, I have no idea what marijuana costs, so maybe not. Interesting that an article warning us about this 'legal' drug gave me info so I could buy it. Probably not the intention! | About the Author Julie Roleystone WA 25th April 2011 7:51pm #UserID: 154 Posts: 1842 View All Julie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... It's probably Yak dung Julie!? LOL! I have friends who say it looks just like the real thing....? Buggared if I know. Apparently it's flooding the mine sites also.. I was wondering if it's safe and/or just a rip off. It must be something that is botanically simliar looking..? Curious. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 25th April 2011 9:29pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Xiem says... Re Amanda's question about THC-free marijuana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onAXx5xhtNc | About the Author Diego 27th April 2011 2:24pm #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Well...I thought it might be the Salvia species. ..but that's illegal here (think Miley Cyrus on U Tube - oops!? ...legal in the US but still a "trip") From what I can gather - legal pot is herbs laced with synthetic cannabinoids that were developed for lab testing re: studying the effects of cannabinoids on the human brain - and 'they' are "legal" (for now) and undetectable - of course - hence the flood into the mining industry - I used to test these guys and the Ministry of Justice clients too...they will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid detection.... To be honest - I know many people are using this stuff - it's called Kronic. The scary thing is that many people are also on antidepressants too. Whatever - it's their body. If anyone reads this now tho' - maybe stick to the illegal stuff....it is a known quantity (for 100's of years now) IMHO :) I was just being my usual busy body self, that most of u know by now... ;-) Ps - it is marketed as "incense" SG. This post will be deleted also (fair enuf' too) I was just interested if it was a bona fide plant species or not. It's always a worry when something is marketed as a "secret ingredient"...? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 28th April 2011 4:00am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Xiem - I don't want to be rude - but grow up...? Tobacco is el natural too? The history of tobacco and cannabis is as ancient as each other...from either side of the Pacific. And nicotene was once used exclusively by shamans and considered a spiritual "herb"...So - what happened? Nature made these plants with these ingredients - not for our exclusive pleasure - but to maim or kill that which would eat them...think about it. You can smoke Oleander too...but would u? (ps - the receptors for THC in your brain did not evolve for the plant - they are there for your own bodies natural cannabinoid receptor system...just like u have "natural" receptors for the endorphins and "natural" opiates you produce too... receptor systems don't work quite the way many folk think....eg: the ingredients in many antidepressants target the sites for serotonin uptake - you know those sites were there many thousands of years b4 antidpressants came along....for all we know there could be psychoactive compounds in tea..we just don't have a compatible receptor in our brain for them..) Ok - off my soap box now.. sorry. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 28th April 2011 4:17am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Everything I've ever heard or read about Salvia tells me it's about the worst drug you could ever try. Being slowly unraveled into the dark cold universe until there's nothing left of you which is the typical Salvia trip doesn't sound much fun. A lot of people give up drugs right there and then after that experience | About the Author Jason Portland 28th April 2011 4:48am #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... I find it ironic that people who are willing to eat apricot kernels to cure cancer(!) find the thought of using marijuana for medical reasons or pain relief to be a problem. Xiem was an active, polite member of this forum was she not? Seems a shame she is leaving because of the perception of people being nasty on here. I find this forum to be the most helpful, friendly forum on the interwebs(98% of the time), Xiem. Hang around some more. :) | About the Author J uopwey 28th April 2011 12:59pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Rastus, to satisfy kertrs wish that discussion on this forum, maintained by a company that sells fruiting trees, trees used for spices and herbs, be kept to fruiting trees and the fruits they produce only, I could re-direct you to another website where you might be able to discuss these sorts of matters with folks who know a fair bit more about it http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/ | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 28th April 2011 2:10pm #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Xiem, life is too short & emails tend to appear very abrupt ( you cant see the smile at the other end) so I ask you to reconsider. Unlike one certain other poster who also has no user ID) & constantly gets up everybody`s nose you have a wealth of info to offer this forum so please stay with us! As for dope well I havent smoked anything at all for 30 years & plan to continue that way, but if I find that marijuana cures IBS I will certainly be having some green cookies! | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso(smack in the middle) 28th April 2011 4:51pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Sorry - my fault here. I was just hoping that one of our botanical gurus might know what the plant was. I worry about people/friends using something that the producers state is a "secret" ingredient. Didn't mean to start an argument - please ignore my original question (or feel free to delete) Xiem - sorry also - I thought u must have been taking the mickey with that link - hence my response. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 29th April 2011 1:04am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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kert says... This is my last jab at anyone(unless v. severely provoked ie cancer quacks misusing this site)Truce is a good idea . Most of the phlegm occurs when users decide it is appropriate to let their hobby horse off the leash regardless of its relevance. To show my goodwill I will not share my interpretation of the acronym "IBS" with anyone. Just chortle in private. | About the Author sydney 29th April 2011 9:16am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Let he who is without sin cast the first stone....? C'mon...I have already apologised and I meant it. I did as much research on the "appropriate" web sites as I could - b4 I came here - they were hopeless with information, surprisingly!? This just made me more curious... it's a character flaw of mine... ;-) | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 29th April 2011 12:36pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Xiem says... Yes it is a good forum. I always take interest in food, including the type that grows on trees. . The Garden Web is okay but I tend not to look at that one so much because it is so general. I also like the Taste.com.au website and no doubt a few of the people on this forum also contribute to that, as well as to the Garden Web. | About the Author Diego 30th April 2011 11:55am #UserID: 4715 Posts: 283 View All Diego's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Me 2 Xiem! It's risky -> but I am going to digress here - but the crispy pork belly with caramelised vinegar (using cinnamon, orange and star anise) is my current consuming passion! (happy sigh... :) There can't be many passionate food growers who are not also dead keen on cooking and eating their efforts surely? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. Mid West WA 1st May 2011 11:23pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Are YOU growing drugs in your backyard? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psychedelic_plants (lol - I apologise in advance for my sense of humour...) ;) The acacias were a surprise...?? | About the Author amanda19 Gerladton. Mid West WA 2nd May 2011 12:06am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Amanda, my daughter & friends used to pick the blooms from our pineapple sage & suck the sweet nectar from their bases. They are one of the flowers along with borage, nasturtium, calendula & 'johnny jump ups' that you can add to salads to make them more interesting. Re porkbelly recipes, I hope you saw IRON CHEF this weekend as that was the required ingredient.? 10 amazing recipes & 2 of them in carved out pumkins! It was a draw ( I was waiting for rockwiz)! As for the psychedelic site well, my Lions ears grew really well in Vic. & there were a number of clowns in the district who would have gladly smoked them had they known! | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso(smack in the middle) 2nd May 2011 8:29pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I think some of the other pipers look very similar but are not the real deal.I know people who have a yard full of the genuine piper for betel nut chewing with mustard sticks or lime.They do pretty well out of them and are way more vigorous than my common standard kitchen pepper. I think the Mhong people sell a slightly different variety of betel nut piper from the NG people. | About the Author Cairns 28th June 2011 11:35pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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ringelstrumpf says... I accidentally found that: http://www.nationaltropicals.com.au/virtuemart/fruit-edible-plants/betel-nut-palm-areca-catechu (the palm) | About the Author ringelstrumpf Mountains 19th July 2011 8:45pm #UserID: 5542 Posts: 160 View All ringelstrumpf's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE says... Hi Nikhil, You can get Lolot, BBQ Leaf (Lá Lốt) - Piper lolot from this Canadian nursery http://www.floraexotica.ca/Vegie.htm Good luck | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 16th September 2011 11:30am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sarah says... You can find betel leaf plant to buy at this website: http://www.tropicalsusa.com/piper_betel.html
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Laisla says... Recher, Is this the plant you refer to? because this is what I am growing http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Starr_080608-7434_Piper_sarmentosum.jpg Yes, it survived sydney winter fine. In fact it is spreading everywhere | About the Author laislaa Sydney 18th December 2012 12:50pm #UserID: 7341 Posts: 57 View All laislaa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Grace10 says... Hi everyone, I’m moving from New Delhi to Melbourne in few days. Betel is a leaf I like so much and would like to grow it when I come to Melbourne (I grow lots of it here in Delhi). This may really sound off topic but I’m seriously looking for a cheap hotel to stay for few days upon arrival; my living accommodation will be ready perhaps 10days after my arrival. I’m moving in with a 6 year old child and would put comfort first. Our family friend said he used this site http://www.trivago.com.au/melbourne-44314/hotel to book the last time he did visit Melbourne but I wish I could have another choice. Temporary home rental will also be a good option for me. Thanks in advance. | About the Author Grace10 Melbourne 24th May 2013 7:01pm #UserID: 8018 Posts: 1 View All Grace10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Izzi Dole says... If you move to tropical North Queensland later on you can grow almost anything that grows in India and Sri Lanka.I just returned from Cairns last week and I tasted all the tropical fruits at the Rusty markets including young coconut water, rambuttan, mangoosteen, durian, dragon fruit, mangoes,papaws etc.I also remember seeing betel leaf. It's a tropical paradise. Your chances of growing betel in the cold Melbourne climate would be very difficuilt and would need lots of patience. Anyway try Daleysnursery.com in NSW. | About the Author Izzi Dole Georges Hall 25th May 2013 12:03am #UserID: 8017 Posts: 14 View All Izzi Dole's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Izzi Dole says... Beware the betel leaf looks very similar to the leaf of the pepper vine and has a thin and shiny surface whereas the pepper vine has pods of green and red pepper hanging in clusters which is dried and used for cooking as black pepper.There are also some other weeds that look very similar to the betel leaf. | About the Author Izzi Dole Georges Hall 27th May 2013 2:35pm #UserID: 8017 Posts: 14 View All Izzi Dole's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sundrop says... Hey guys, I've been reading this forum but I can't keep my head around the numerous varieties of betel leaf, or nut or etc... All I know is that I want the wild betel leaf - the kind that is used in Malaysian cooking, Malay name is "Daun Kaduk". I believe it is the rounder, more heart shaped one rather than oval shaped. Does anyone know how I can: 1. Buy the leaves here in Sydney? 2. Buy the plant and grow it in my garden? Thanks so much for your help! | About the Author Sundrop Sydney 11th August 2013 9:46pm #UserID: 8146 Posts: 1 View All Sundrop's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Bhoomi says... I have been to many nurseries in Sydney but couldn't find betel leave vine. Last month I found the place in Sydney. The Parklea Market in Blacktown has a fruits and vegetable stalls. I found an Asian vegetable stall. They are selling betel leaves vine in 20cm pots. Healthy plant with well developed roots. I bought a plant for 20$. Very happy with the size of plant and I have started using few leaves every week.it is worth spending a little but I am enjoying paan bida every weekend. | About the Author Bhoomi Greystanes 25th April 2014 2:01pm #UserID: 9864 Posts: 1 View All Bhoomi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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SiewK says... Hi Tom, I too am from Western Australia. I read your email and you said you were able to purchase some Betel Leaves in WA. Where can I buy some of those leaves so that I can also cultivate a plant? Or will you be able to give me a cutting of your plant? I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Ann | About the Author SiewK 6011 6th September 2014 6:59pm #UserID: 10456 Posts: 1 View All SiewK's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phyo Koko Lwin says... Just tell me how many vine do you want and how can i send to you?I'm from Myanmar and I'm working at betel leaf plantation bussiness.My email is "jimcarrey.mufl@gmail.com"...cheers :)
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Betel Leaf Sale says... We are Srilanka based company which export betel leaf. This is our online Store - 1st Online Betel Leaf Shopping experience. http://betelleafsale.com/
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19david70 says... Hi Everyone, Ive been reading all the recent post, and i see that alot of questions was asked about the Piper Betel leaf, which is used for chewing in India (Paan) can any one advise if they have found a grower in Australia where they have fresh leaves. I checked the Australia customs requirements to bring some in and let me say too much red tape. If anyone knows of anyone that is growing this plant in Australia please contact me. david_bllstrs@yahoo.com.au Cheers | About the Author Possum brisbane 25th August 2015 9:08pm #UserID: 12212 Posts: 7 View All Possum's Edible Fruit Trees |
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monifa13 says... I buy betel leaves from Indian shops and betel nut is also sold in most of the Indian shops in Sydney and I am sure they must be selling it in the indian shops in other Australian cities too. Indians use it as an offering while worshipping God along with betel leaves. But I have never seen a betel leaf plant anywhere here in Sydney. | About the Author monifa13 Bexley 24th October 2015 11:40pm #UserID: 12575 Posts: 1 View All monifa13's Edible Fruit Trees |
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19david70 says... Hi Monifa, yes I've located 1 person down Sydney way that does grow this plant, but he wasn't able to supply any as he sells/supply most of his leaves to the Indian shops down Sydney. I have obtained 2 plants from Brisbane myself but the are a long way off from being able to be harvested. This is a real hard produce to obtain in Australia. Thank you for the reply. | About the Author Possum brisbane 25th October 2015 11:46pm #UserID: 12212 Posts: 7 View All Possum's Edible Fruit Trees |
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19david70 says... Hi Ben, Yes i know exactly what your saying with people stating they cab supply from over sea. Ive actually located both plants the Vietnamese and the PNG betel plant. The Vietnamese betel grows very easy but the png is very slow but once its established the fruit will be worth the wait. Cheers and good cooking | About the Author Possum Brisbane 29th October 2016 11:38am #UserID: 12212 Posts: 7 View All Possum's Edible Fruit Trees |
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