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My question is about wolf berries. Is there any environmental problem with going theses berries? Example bird eating the fruit and depositing the seeds elsewhere creating a weed. I can not find much information on them. Other then where they are grown in china at the base of the Himalayas.
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Greg says...
Certainly a good question. I am sure there would be envirements in Australia that would be ideal for them. Early trials in the subtropics indicate that they are not easy to grow, seem to like very well drained soils. Would be interesting to get some feedback on growing Goji Berries in Australia.
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Greg says...
I have no problem in getting them to grow. There growing like weeds at the moment. That’s why I have asked that question. If people are having problems in growing them. It mite not be a problem
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Ed says...
The wolf berry is also called the Goji berry and they seem to be the rage at the moment, supposed to be full of amazing amounts of anti oxidants, minerals, proteins you name it. Maybe you can find more info on the net under that name.One seller told me they grow like weeds in Tibet too but didn't mention if they were attractive to birds etc.
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Robyn says...
Where can we get some seed? I am dying to try some on the northern end of the Atherton Tablelands in Far north Queensland.
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Gourd says...
http://www.herbalistics.com.au sell wolfberry seeds, but there closed for a couple weeks, woof woof!
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Ron says...
Robyn-- if you go onto Ebay and enter goji berries -- there are plenty of suppliers, soak the berries in water overnight then plant out they grow very easy-- good luck
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Julie says...
What conditions do gogi need? We have hot summers and quite cold, wet winters where I am. Would this climate be suitable?

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Melissa says...
Someone on an American site said that they grew them from the dried fruit.Don't no anything further than that....but they are all going nuts for them ...a new health kick I think last year it was cranberries and before that it was blueberries....Does anyone know what they taste like? Fruit is god for us so it is all interesting.:)
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Jethro says...
I bought seeds and planted then out . They germinated quickly but my dear wife stuck then out in the direct sunlight and ......
I then had some bought dried fruit and scraped out the seeds ,planted then and had again very good strick rate. So far very slow growth but they are doing fine. We are in the tropics,I think the direct sun up here is too much for them and so Im growing them under shade cloth. So far so good but it is winter up here at the moment (Cooktown QLD)???
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Ron says...
I recently bought dried goji berries that were a little too dry matter of fact they were hard and not really nice to eat--- so I put some into an airtight container with a damp paper towel, sealed the lid, and the next day they were fine to eat--- also to make a healthy drink, soak some goji berries in water overnight until they swell up then add some other of your favourite fruit like blackberries, stawberries, mangos, bananas or whatever you prefer place into a blender until all mashed up-- less water makes a smoothie more water makes a healthy fruit drink ideal to keep colds and flu at bay
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Cornucopia says...

Actually I think a web search will turn up that Lycium barbarum is already a weed in Vic and established to a small degree more southern NSW, and maybe Tas.
Brought here by an English army guy after admiring it during service in India and Afghanistan, in the 1870's. Apparently, as a garden plant.
Wouldn't surprise me the large Chinese population that has been in Victoria since those times also contributed to it's spread. It is as much a food as a medicine.
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Roy says...
What area in Vic are you referring to Cornucopia? It's just that there are plants concidered to be weeds in the Dandenongs that would have buckleys around our parts.

We've been thinking about buying goji but, would be interested to know if it may cause any great environmental problems before we do.

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Myra Richardson says...
Rain tree Nursery has them. They are on the net. They are in Washington State.
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lachlann says...
I purchased seeds over the internet from Richters Herbs (Canada). Good service and good germination.
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Rev says...
Being a lycium i think they would definitely have weed potential

small red berries give it away every time ;)

i guess the question is how bad??

they are not spiny like their definite weedy cousins - african boxthorn (lycium ferocissum?)
they are major weeds near geraldton WA, and in the york peninsular SA

ive been growing the tetraploid form for years. it rarely fruits and is propagated vegetatively for its large rounder leaves which are a healthy vegetable

the wild type is by contrast narrow leaved and silver green

both forms tolerate cold (-6) and the ubiquitous aussie summer heat
during times of either extremes they go deciduous so are hard to kill once established

also the fella from richters who should know reckons the tibetan goji claims are BS. i agree
the goji juice sold is mostly grape juice and sugar

dry fruit is cheaply available from asian grocers. to make a tonic wine soak berries in a drinkable red for a week and have 1/2 to 1 glass a day

be aware some people react unfavourably to goji ( which is actually in chinese Gou zi)
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blueflame says...
I took the dried berries straight from the package and just put them in soil and watered them. I have over 100 of the tiny plants! Now how to grow them into a 12 foot tree and see the berries.
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juanita says...
This is my healthy looking goji plant w/c i bought from our local nursery...What fertiliser to use to keep it thriving & bears fruits.
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Julie says...
Rev

Doesn't wine go off once you expose it to the air? I would like to know more.

Thanks
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peter says...
are the berries from the
african boxthorn (lycium ferocissimum)
ok to eat.
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Anonymous says...
Are any nurseries in Brisbane selling them? I started growing them but this is going to take forever.
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Julia says...
Hi Greg
How did you go with the Wolf Berries?
I am interested to know if you managed to get any?
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Diny says...
Someone at our local market was selling Goji juice at $80 a bottle!
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John says...
I have grown them from seed that I soaked in water and put onto paper towel and dried. They germinate readily and look like tomato seedlings. Seedlings are very feeble for a while and are then supposed to take off.

Mine are still small. They are supposed to produce fruit within 2 years and shorter in warmer climates. Need hand pollination if grown as an indoor or hot house plant in a tub.
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Shaun says...
Tass-1-Tree in Baskerville (WA) has stock of Goji berry plants.
Selling for $20.00 a tube of plant.
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Ellen says...
I've tried growing it from seeds (gathered from semi dried goji berries) but it was not successful, it's been 2 months.

But I happened to popped into Bunnings yesterday to get some potting mixed soil, and found a whole heaps of Goji Berry plants on sale there, a fairly big plant almost .5 meter for $16.95 per plants .
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Julie says...
Ellen, I also tried growing from seed, bought online. Some germinated, some were eaten by slugs, and four are still alive, but not growing much.

I will repot and see what happens, but meanwhile, I hope Bunnings in WA have the same plants you bought - I am getting impatient!
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Ellen says...
Hi Julie

yeah, I think you would have better luck with a proper grown Goji plant rather than a seedling.

Because I've bought 1 goji plant from allrareherb, fairly small plant, back in October, we're in mid December now and it has only grown 1 cm . So at this rate it will not fruit for another 2 or 3 years at least.

That's why as soon as I saw Bunnings had them, I scooped 2 plants home, they're 3 x the size bigger than the one in allrareherb.
But I doubt it if it would fruit for me this year. Based on the size and height, must be fruiting next year .
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Eve says...
Does anyone know if these bushes/trees need to be grown against a support. They look quite soft stemmed and the ones in the pot in our neighbourhood nursery seem to lean over. Thanks.
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Jantina says...
From what I have read they benefit from some support. Like tomato plants I suppose,they will still bear if left to their own devices but are easier to manage and have less pest problems if up off the ground. Have read of it described as a scrambling plant.Must get mine in the ground, it lost it,s leaves in the winter cold down here at Mt. Gambier (we had a few light frosts) but regrew them in the spring.
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peter says...
some of mine are nearly 10 feet tall
and are getting quite heavy and breaking
the tomato stakes they are tied to.
i have now changed to star droppers.
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Jantina says...
Are they fruiting Peter?
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Eve says...
Thanks Jantina. Mine are still in pots too and that will be the job for the weekend - putting in a frame for support and then planting.

If they are anything like Peter's maybe I will tie them to a wrought iron archway.
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peter says...
yes they have fruited but only a hand full, this is only their 2nd summer
and they say that they take about
5 years to reach full prodution.
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Jantina says...
Thanks Peter.
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john says...
tass1trees in swanvalley has some in tubes now for $8. he said he`s potting some up into larger pots.. i got 4 and are looking great..
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Mark says...
Juanita of Melbourne.... PLEEEZE, What Nursery did You get Your GOJI At?? My Dear Wife would really love to get a plant!! Thanks in Advance. Mark.(in Frankston)
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Mark says...
Ellen, Where is Smithfield? S.A. I think) After reading your posting about 2 seconds ago,my wife ran off to Bunnings in Frankston,to see if they have Goji Plants too!!
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Mark says...
Julie, a good wine will last about a week or so,once the bottle is opened.So yes you are right.(That's in the fridge!) Get around this by brewing yourself,& adding the GOJI Berries while brewing. Should keep forever,almost. Try it,& let me know,or give me a bottle to be the 'tester'!"Hic-Up"
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Mark says...
GOJI PLANTS can be Found At...... > BUNNINGS in FRANKSTON,McMahon's Rd. > My Dear Wife has just returned with 2 Plants,bought at Bunnings in Frankston! > Hope this helps those of you still looking for them. Thanks Ellen, for mentioning you got yours at Bunnings!! > That,is her Christmas present.(once I pay for them.)
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Julie says...
Ellen - hey, I repotted my gogi and gave them a feed and they have added a few centimetres in a week or so! So I will wait a while and see how they do. If they are not a reasonable size by the end of summer I will buy one.

It isn't much warmer, we are having a cool spring/summer so far. They just needed more space to grow.

Mark, thanks for the answer. Haven't made wine for years - fibro house too hot in summer and too cold in winter. It all turns out like sherry! But I would like to try again when I eventually move to a better-built house.
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Julie says...
John (very late reply)

You say gogi need hand pollination. So is it better to grow more than one?
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Tanya says...
I saw goji berry bushes at Bunnings Capalaba Qld today if any Brisbane readers are interested. Other stores may have them as well.
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Julie says...
Just reporting back on my gogi grown from seed.
Two are now 30cm high, the other two only about 14cm. Seeds do vary, unless they are hybrids bred to be identical, so that's why some of you have had more success than others.

Tomorow will be 40c, so I'm putting them in a shadier place until it cools down a bit. Young plants can be a bit tender.
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juanita says...
Just to let you know that BigW's plant nursery section has lots of goji berry plants in stock for $15.00
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jane says...
Has tried to grow goji from cuttings?
Do I have to wait for 2 years growth before striking a cutting?


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peter says...
my plants grew to about five feet in
their first year and you could take
cuttings from it before it got to that
size.
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Barbary says...
Howdy! We have a nursery on Kessell Rd in Goolwa next to the council depot, for native plant revegetation. Have grown Gojis from seed obtained from dried fruit. We can sell them to whoever is keen but we are also worried about the invasive weed potential! However, it seems like the Goji bandwagon is well and truly rolling so theres not much we can do except minimise bird and possum access to the fruit, so they dont spread. We are open to the public on Friday afternoons. Cheers.
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Julie says...
Hi all

I just read somewhere on the net that it is a good idea to nip off the tips when they are still young. This encourages branching.

I like the idea of a shorter, branched shrub, rather than a tall spindly one, so I have nipped mine off. Here's hoping I did the right thing!
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bee says...
which state do you live in in in ipswich qld and want to grow goji berries wondering if i can. bee
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denise says...
To select a really good plant you need to grow a few. Some will have a few thorns. Only grow from sweet berries.They germinate 100% in Jiffy-7 peat pellets. The soft leaves easily damage and rot from hail, sudden drought, lengthy rain or wind rubbing. I applied a series of sprinkling diluted biofeed for 2 days which miraculusly restored the entire leaf.Biofeed is a NZ brand of organic compost tea the leachate of hot composted animal manures.
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Julie says...
I only have four that survived slugs etc. So I think I will keep them all, after what you said denise. I was going to give away to a friend, but maybe better to wait and see how well they fruit, and choose the best.

From seed sown in spring,two are a meter tall, two much smaller. But big may not be better!
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Mark says...
Goji Juice costs a lot everywhere! We've seen it at the market for as Low as $20something for a small bottle! A Really Good & CHEAP Goji Drink my wife has found(by doing herself),,, Get some Dried Goji Berries, & fill a jam jar with Honey Mead.(Home made is BEST.)Leave a bit of room in the jar. Now, Soak as many Dried Goji Berries in it as you can,& leave to soak for a week or two. Then,take the berries out& dry in the sun in a window. Now, You have Goji Berries that taste like Mead,& Mead that taste like Goji Berries!!
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Mark says...
I forgot to add, When you take the Goji Berries out of the Mead, you can just put some more Goji Berries in to soak & do this over & over! With each 'soaking' the Mead will get Darker from the Goji Berries,& it will also become Stronger over time! You need a New Jar of Fresh Mead, when it becomes Bitter to Drink!
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Mark says...
Is the Goji Bush an 'Evergreen' or is it 'Deciduous'? Does anyone know? I'm asking this because my wife's Goji bushes have lower leaves turning yellow & a few even drop off,just like one would expect from a 'Deciduous'Tree. Also,it is Autumn,the time for trees to lose their leaves unless they are 'Evergreens'. So, can anyone tell me which the Goji is so I can tell my wife? Oh,, If it is Deciduous,then why could the leaves(at the bottom of the plant)be turning yellow & dropping?
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Mark says...
And,,,, Does anyone know where I can get an "Acai" plant? I live in Frankston,Vic. if that helps. Alternatively, does anyone know where I can get "Acai Berries"? I have only once seen the powder.(& that was on a market stall!)
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peter says...
mark,
yes goji is deciduous.
you probably have no hope at all
getting an acai plant.
if you do let me know.
you could try asian supermarkets or
health food stores for dried products.
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Barbara says...
Hi Mark, yellowing of leaves is often a lack of nitrate...you may try adding adding a little chook poo to the soil.
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denise says...
You can import acai palm seeds from Tropilab in Suriname. It is a clumping palm with an edible heart. and the scanty pulp around the seed is compensated by the huge size of the crop.I dont know if your biosecurity people will let them through the border. It is Euterpe oleracea. Not to be mistaken with the poorer assai palm which is Euterpe edulis. The seeds grow easily but the season is nearly over.
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Ellen says...
Over the summer I've 2 Goji berry plants from Bunnings, it grow, and branches spreading itself. Now it's getting to be winter soon, and all the leaves is changing to yellow color and starting to fall off, is this normal ?
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peter says...
ellen,
mark from a few posts above was asking
the same thing,
goji are deciduous so this is normal
although mine still have green leaves
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Ellen says...
Thanks a lot Pete .

I'll hopes they will survive Sydney's winter.
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Geoff says...
Bunnings has had them on occassions. Also some independent nurseries seem to have them. They dont seem to be that hard to find.
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Mark says...
Denise,,, Thanks. But do you or anyone know if Acai Plants or Seeds are available in nurseries here in Victoria, Australia?
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Geoff says...
Diggers seeds at heronswood @ Dromana, vic, were selling them a couple of months ago at a reasonable price. They may be able to offer some more info on their growth habbits.
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Mark says...
Thanks Geoff! Dromana is just a short run(in the car) down the highway from me! I'll have to look into that, so Many Thanks!! Kind Regards,, Mark 'the Mouth of the South'.
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amanda says...
Is anyone's Goji Berry fruiting and/or look like it has weed potential yet?
I planted one a cupla months ago and then read above that they are like a box thorn....these are invasive weeds here...not worried about birds getting them (I will net) but can mice spread seed in their poo too?
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peter says...
hi amanda,
my goji are sending up suckers away
from the main plant so you could say they do have weed potential.

the flowers and berries are almost identical to the african boxthorn
and they even taste very similar.

do you know if the boxthorn berries
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amanda says...
Hi peter - thanks for letting me know this - I might have a talk to Ag dept I think.

I would say the box thorn berries could very well be edible - I have seen fox poo on the block full of the berry casing and seeds. Most wild dogs will forage like this - including the fox.
I don't have foxes inside the home paddock - but would guess that rodents could carry the seed too.

I have done lots of camping and seen tomatoes n chillies growing out in the middle of nowhere from human poo!

I destroyed all the boxthorn on our block - didn't really think about tasting them to be honest! Where they any good anyway?
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peter says...
tasted about the same as a goji berry
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amanda says...
Think u may be right Peter - the dried ones don't do it for me. I thought fresh might be better?
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Julie says...
Gogi I grew from seed last year did well. They are looking pretty sad at the moment - haven't lost all their leaves,just some.

Is it advisable to prune them now - or at all? They are quite tall and skinny. I know this seems to be their growth habit, but wondered if pruning would do any good.
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amanda says...
Hi Julie - I would guess that u need to find out if they fruit on new growth/wood? If so - then prune away!
(sorry - I don't know the answer to this!) Adelaide Peter would tho'

I know the box thorn does which is the same genus...
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Julie says...
amanda - Google is my friend!:) But I thought I would ask here first.

So, according to an article in Quandong, heavy pruning produces more berries. No details on new wood/old wood etc. www.wanatca.org.au. This is a group of people who like to grow unusual fruit and nut trees - based in WA.

Also, it says that Gogi berries from China are likely to be Lyceum chinense, not L. barbarum, which have a different taste. This may be why some people have not liked the dried berries.

Real (barbarum) Gogi berries have a range of reddish colours, whereas the Chinese are uniformly red because they are dyed. Interesting huh?
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amanda says...
That is interesting Julie! must check my dried goji pkt! I got my plant from diggers - it's a barbarum. Have u tried a fruit off yours yet? were they better than dried ones? Is yours a barbarum?
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Julie says...
No fruit yet amanda - I only sowed the seed (barbarum) last spring. I think I will give them a prune and put into Bonsai bags. I have four. I'll choose the best two and give the others away.

The reason for the bags is mainly because I will be moving some time in the future, and want to take them with me. But maybe the biggest aren't the best? Hard to know till they fruit.

I saw a picture somewhere of a small Gogi, dug up, and it was surprising how long the roots were. So I think the B. bags might be the go, as they control the root growth.
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amanda says...
yea julie - good idea. adelaide peter said his were suckering too (above). They seem so flimsy - i will be giving mine a prune to shrubby it up too.
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Virginia says...
Hi Greg, Just bought a Goji Berry plant today & didn't recognize the genus so looked it up before planting, just in case it is a weed - Lycium barbarum. Alarm bells rang, related to Boxthorn. I run a bushland restoration business and this is a highly invasive weed we treat. Further investagation shows that it is a known environmental weed in south-east Australia. Lucky I checked before I planted, avoid an environmental disaster! Virginia
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snottiegobble says...
If you go to your local Coles or Big W you will find all the Goji seeds you will ever need in the health section. Packets of Goji berries for under $6 & every one has seeds in it. Also there are always a few seeds left in the bottom of the packet & that where I got my 6 plants from. Kept in the house by the heater until germination ( sown July ) then into greenhouse. potted on twice & now 6 ins tall.
The main reason African Box Thorn is a noxious weed is because of its deadly thorns. I ended up at the Emergency with pierced eyeball after trying to remove unsightly plastic bags from such a menace.
Yeah they obnoxious weeds in Vic alright but try telling that to all the dairy farmers who use them as hedges to keep their cattle in.
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John says...
To all who are interested I have lots of Goji berries growing happlity in my backyard in Albany WA. They lose their leaves in winter and come back strongly in spring. They do sucker a bit.

Some now have flowers in their second year from seed. They are very vigarious weeping shrubs and will strike up if you nick and then pin part of the long branches in the ground.

I now have a large number of plants for sale as well as other unusual trees.
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amanda says...
Hi guys...I am ashamed to admit this but I think I have released wild rocket onto my block by accident. At least the seeds are not easily dispersed. Snottiegobble - box thorn is a noxious weed because of other reasons than it's thorns - ease of seed dispersal is a big factor and also displacement of native fauna. It's a big problem here - thorns are not a problem in a bush/remote setting or 1,000 acre property.
I ended up in ED from pruning roses and a scratched eyeball - but they are not noxious weeds....
Anyway - back to the point...I am a bit concerned about Goji - has anyone had problems in WA yet?
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Mark says...
African Box Thorn? Hmmm. That could solve a few problems with nasty neighbours. Does it grow easily & quickly from seed? I wonder where I could get some? It would make the perfect gift for someone I don't like & who is really nasty! Would I really though? No. But one can dream.
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Julie says...
I have four gogi plants from seed sown in spring 2008.

I just noticed today that one has flowers - I nearly missed them, as they are not very large. The other three show no signs, but I will keep watch.

As it is less than two years, about 16 months since I sowed them, I'm quite pleased!
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amanda says...
Hi Julie - well done! I was able to taste them fresh at Tas1 trees recently - they were much better than the dried ones. Not bad at all.
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Dennismychina says...
Hi all, I just had an interesting read of your forum. Very nice. And well done to all those “pioneers/experimenters with wolfberries. Gougi berry or as many people say goji. I’ve lived in China for a while and a couple of them where in Inner Mongolia, which is a autonomous region (very similar to a province) in the north of China. My wife’s mom farms gouqi berries up there so I got a bit of info from her.
Firstly, the tree is the Lycium barbarum L in the Ninhxia region hey have a Lycium barbarum var. Ningxia. They are grown in temperatures varying from – 20 and below to as high as +35/40 centigrade. The berries are not coloured red, they are red. There are three harvests of the berries. The first is a natural growth (no fertilizer is used). The second harvest some fertilizer is used and the last harvest a lot of fertilizer is used. And not always organic. (in fact due to costs, organic fertilizer is seldom used. (This is possibly where the colouring of the berries comes in. Obviously the fruit of the first harvest is of a much higher quality. And the last harvest could get cheap-skate commercial companies running for their red dye. Traditionally the fruit is air-dried on framed hessian mats, in the open air. This time of year is also the rainy period so a inside storage shed is also needed. They should be “shaken” (the frame is shaken to rotate the berries) often to prevent mildew and to dry evenly. Trees, actually more shrub size, are heavily pruned each year. For better fruit production as well as ease of harvest. The fruit has a sweetish taste, somewhat like a raisin with a strong woodish flavor. It certainly has all the goodness that the hype is all about. But as far as commercial drinks are concerned I’d be very skeptical. We don’t use it at home as often as we should but when we do, we put it in most cooked foods, especially in stews and soups.
Hope this was informative.
Enjoy,
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PS. You can find a lot more info here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfberry#Leaves_and_flower
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Ron says...
originally grew my plants from seeds I obtained from dried goji berries I bought on ebay in May 2007, the plants are now rambling tall growths up to 2.4m high and I am getting my first lot of flowers -- so they are nearly 3 years old if anybody is interested how long before they bear fruit, these plants dont get a lot of attention, and no fertiliser--- will post again if (or when) I get fruit --- also here in Grafton we have sub-tropical conditions
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Julie says...
I put one of mine in a Bonsai bag, so it will be interesting to see if this dwarfs it at all. The others are in deep pots, so I'd need to plant in the ground to see a comparison.

Ron, how do you support yours? They flop all over the place! Are you growing in pots?
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
My 18 months old Nelly Kelly brand plants are currently in pots and fruits have started to ripe. I use a garden stake to tie all branches together. I was told not to prune because flowers appear near the end of a long branches.
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Julie says...
So there is a Nelly Kelly brand of Gogi? I didn't know there were named varieties.
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richard says...
hi
I grow goji's, they are between 1 and 2m high, bought this growing season
2 of them sit in big containers, seize of a big laundry basket.
mainly compost with some sand for drainage
The leaves are turning yellow, and dropping off,the tops are still growing strong.
About a foot from the top you can see the leaves staring to go lighter green and further down going yellow'
To early for autumm fall.
I water once a week half a bucket of water, the soil is not very wet.
Anyone with ideas what is going, I am at a loss, and I would not like to include my goji's in that, and start all over again.
thanks
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Richard,

I think your plants are doing ok. Some of the leaves of my plants are yellowing and droping off too so I think just the weather. They are quite a tough plant BTW. I would give the plants some ferilizer and water well.

Good luck.
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Julie says...
Did you know that gogi leaves are edible? One article I came across said they have a flavour between watercress and peppermint, and are popular in soups with pork.

Thay seem to have some medicinal qualities too. Some Chinese farmers are growing gogi just for the young leaves!

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Yes, It is very true. I have 3 different varieties in my garden. My latest one is named variety.

The other two, one sort of rounded leave, one pointy leave flower occationally but never fruit (may be they are not mean to fruit).

I use the leaves to make soup with either chicken or pork stock. Very nice similar to spinach. It is a Chinese medicine indeed. In Asian groceries. A bunch is $1.5 enough to make a few cups of soup. The dried fruits of the named variety are used in soups too.

Very easy to propagate. I got my first 2 from the shops in Melbourne.
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gus says...
Inspired by this, I just tried my goji's leaves, and I reckon they taste like wheat grass. Not bad though. My little tree has delicious sweet little orange fruit, and grows pretty well here in Perth.
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Julie says...
Is it fruiting already gus? Mine seems to be on its way, but no actual fruit yet.I haven't got around to tasting the leaves!
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Gus says...
I bought a tiny flimsy little tree from tass1trees that already had fruit on it. The more I pick it the more that seem to grow.
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Julie says...
Of the four I grew from seed, only one has flowered so far. The fruits were TINY! I'm glad I kept them all, as the others may do better next year.

April has been much cooler than usual, and many of the flowers didn't turn into fruit.
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gus says...
My fruit are about the size of tic tacs. Nice and sweet with a kind of slightly bitter after taste. Bitter in a good way if that makes sense.
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Julie says...
gus, mine are very sweet, but no bitter aftertaste. I think maybe being seed grown they might vary a bit from one plant to another. I hope the others turn out a bit bigger!
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
My fruits are very tiny too but very sweet and due to the cold weather some flowers don't set fruits lately.
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Gaardenier says...
I have plants here since about 4 years. Rooted cuttings (large leaves) as well as seedlings (narrow leaves) All was easy to cultivate, but till now only a few flowers and fruit.
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Julie says...
Well, if mine don't get any bigger they are coming out. Too much wasted time, water and fertiliser for something with such disappointing results. Nothing like the dried ones I have seen.
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snottiegobble says...
yeah Julie, they dont seem to like our WA climate. mine grew like mad till summer then all those in the ground carked it! the ones in pots just went pale & spindly so you could say I lost interest. Easy to germinate from seeds left in the bottom of the Goji berry packets health aisles Coles, Safeways etc. Under $6.00 a packet!
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amanda says...
Hi Julie - my new book says they like very rich soil full of organics and prefer acid conditions - if it's any help. I also didn't realise that Wolf Berries and Goji Berries are different species...
Mine is in a pot and far from impressive also - it hasn't even been in the full-on sun - it's pale and spindly too.
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Julie says...
It's not so much the look of the plant, but the size of the berries. They are so small they are hardly worth picking! I sort of expect the plant to go off a bit in this cold weather.

And they have been getting lots of goodies - not sure of the pH though.
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Dean says...
I'm looking forward to finding out how my seeds do. I just planted them several days ago.
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Simon says...
Hi Julie,

It’s interesting to read about your experience in growing goji berries; enthusiastic in looking for one, the excitement of it fruiting and the disappointment of the size of berry it produces. If there is any consolation, I shared the same encountered as well!
I live in metro Perth, had a goji plant from about a 30 cm tall to now about two meter tall. It produces quite a lot of fruits/berries now but like yours they are rather small. I don’t harvest them any more, only pick them to eat occasionally. However, when it is flowering; and when the berries turn red, it is certainly a very beautiful tree/bush. I admire it the same way as I admire a kumquat tree when it is full of orange fruits. They are both so beautiful to look at.

My Goji tree branches were all over as well, I had to provide support to train it upright to the current 2-meter height. Earlier this month, I dagged it up from ground into a 50-cm port. I hope I did not kill it as it lost all the leaves. I thought if I am going to treat it as an ornament tree, better of in a pot than in the ground. I would suggest that you grow it in a pot as well. Any comment?
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Julie says...
Hi simon, I have three in pots and one in a bonsai bag. Interestingly, the one in the bag didn't fruit, although this method is supposed to speed up fruiting!

I will give them one more summer and that's it. I find it hard to get rid of plants, but sometimes you have to bite the bullet!
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Jim says...
has anyone in perth area had success in growing goji berries to full size fruit?
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russ says...
I have a young plant that is coming along nicely in the back garden. It even gave me 4 berries last summer.
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Simon says...
Hi Julie,

If you get discouraged by Goji berry plant, another insteresting one is Jujube or chinese red dates. There are quite a lot in Perth, very hardy to grow, produce nice crunchy fruits if you pick them early (just about to turn red). I have two varieties both in the pot. I was told try not to grow them in the ground as they tend to produce runners (off shoots from the roots) just like the curry leaf plant.
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16th June 2010 7:21pm
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Julie says...
Where can I find these Simon? You say there are quite a lot in Perth.

We are not allowed to bring seeds into WA - like so many things. Sigh!
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john says...
Try tass 1 1trees he has 5 varieties and all good size.

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Jim says...
John, was just to about to add that. I recently bought one and there was only the one variety on show (i know he has a lot of stock out the back), and it is a Chico. Do you know much about the differences?
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Simon says...
Hi Julie,
I know there is a middle age man that sells jujube plants in the Canning market at week end cark park sales. Not sure if you go that way. There is a jujube orchard in Gidgegannup along Toodyay road that sells them as well. As I am currently working away in the bush, I will find out more details when I get back to Perth.

I think I saw some plants at Wandilla Plant Nurseries in Welshpool Road WATTLE GROVE. They sell a lot of exotic Asian fruit plants. I have not seen any in Bunnings. Jujube plants are generally slightly dearer (range from $45 to $100 depending on the size of the plant). I am not sure if you can geminate from the red dates them we buy from shops.

I am sorry Julie, looks like I am not very helpful in giving you nursery locations (as I normally visit them without looking at their names and address). I promise to get more details when I get back to Perth.

Jim,
Chico is the crunchy bell shape variety. I have one in the pot. I am not sure of the name for the spongy variety (which produce oblong shape fruit similar to the picture in above Forum entry “JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE's Edible Fruit Trees”). The label on my plant has disappeared a while back. Chico fruits are nicer to eat as they are crunchy but the spongy ones are good if you pick them just when small red patches starts to appear.
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Julie says...
Simon, I checked once in an Asian store, and the seeds had been removed! Probably a law against selling them with seeds in.

Thanks for all your help - Canning Vale markets is only a half hour drive from me. I hope they are cheaper than $100 though!
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi all,

Chico jujube fruits is round but flattened, very cute like a little apple.

The spongy one is the Lang variety. This variety fruits are available in a dried form in the Asian shop imported from China.It is more suitable to be used as dried fruits than eating fresh.

They all sweet and crunchy if pick at the right time and best in the morning where they are juicier.
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17th June 2010 9:33pm
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Jim says...
Thanks for the insight Simon and Jujube
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Simon says...
Hi Julie,

I managed to contact a friend who said there is an outlet at Kelmscott which is nearer your way. I have not been there myself. the address is : 9 Alola St, Kelmscott;
Email: gqinsley@bigpond.net.au
Contact person : George Qinsley
Telephone : 93905338

You should be able to buy un-pitted red dates from the asian shops I think.

Hi JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE ,
Thanks for info on Jujube varieties.
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Julie says...
Thanks Simon.
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Thea says...
My name is Thea from Yinchuan, Ningxia, which is the land of Goji Berries.

Chinese wolfberry, mainly in Ningxia, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Shanxi, Gansu, Qinghai provinces, Ningxia produces better quality products.Ningxia Goji berries has been approved the best Goji berries in China.

Climate requirments for planting Goji Berries as follows for your reference:
1. Annual average temperature: Optimum: 5.4℃-12.3℃
2. Sunlight:: It needs full of sunlight. If it grows under shade cloth, the fruits will be less.
3. Moisture: Moisture content should be kept between 16-20% in fruiting season
4. Soil: <0.1% salt in high fertility soils

Hope my answer is helpful for your concern. If you have any further qustions,pls feel free to contact me.

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carl says...
we got some dried goji berries from some asian shops and health shops in the past, and then soaked in water and then cut them open. We planted out the seeds and got heaps of plants, they are easy to germinate. We gave away a lot of plants to friends.

We have a couple of small bushes in pots in the sun and they fruit very well in summer, my family like the taste, even though they are small.

I have been told by people in the food industry that very little are grown in tibet, most are from china, just sold as coming from tibet.
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24th July 2010 2:28am
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Mark says...
Carl,, Tibet is a part of China! If you get the dried Goji Berries you can soak them in water to get the seeds as you have done. But Don't throw the water away! drink it. It makes a really nice & healthy herbal tea! ... On the subject of Soaking Goji Berries, Try soaking a handful of dry Goji Berries in a jam jar full of home made Honey Mead!! The Longer you can leave them, the better it will be! As they get soft & have been soaking for a few days, take some out & put another handful in. Dry them on a cloth or eat them straight away. .... What you end up with is Goji Berries that taste like Honey Mead & Goji & are now alcoholic ,, & you have a jam jar full of Mead now with the Goji Berry flavour & a reddish colour! ........ The HARDEST Part of doing this is,, Leaving them alone!!
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amanda says...
Yea carl...and they are soaked in red food dye (annatto - google it)..yumm..that will have u bouncing off the walls - even without the plonk added :) Very healthy.
Anyway - do u make your own mead Mark?
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Julie says...
Isn't annato a seed from a tropical tree? Should be OK, unless it has some properties I don't know about. Used to be used for bead necklaces.
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amanda says...
annatto is one of the only natural food colourings (160b) known to cause hypersentivity reactions.
It's actually orange-yellow - so the goji berries likely have some other stuff on them.
It's just my personal choice not to buy any food products grown in China and other unregulated countries.

Having said that - most developed countries have banned 150c and d - except Australia. (I only know about these as I have suffered debilitating hives and had to have extensive testing). And I am sad to see MSG being lobbed into even biscuits these days :(
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vitafreenet says...
Premium Organi cun-dried Goji Berries are available!

Check them here:
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Mark says...
Amanda,, No I don't make my own Mead... "YET"!! (I do have to get in & do it one day.) However... I Don't buy that commercial rubbish mead either!! We have a friend who makes a batch from time to time. When it comes time to bottle it(& sometimes brew it), he asks members of our club to come to help. Anyone who helps out, gets given a few bottles for their trouble! ... And of course,there is the 'job' of periodic taste testing. Usually he does that himself, but sometimes if this is not possible, I volunteer to make sure it gets done properly!!:-) I'm not usually a drinker so he knows that I'm not going to just drink the lot!
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Mark says...
Amanda, That may be so of commercial & dried Goji Berries, but I'm sure that the berries from my wife's tree don't get soaked in anything but the mead! ... And IF Anyone is going to be so concerned about the Red Food Dye, why not just forget about the mead, leave the Goji berries alone, & just drink the Red Food Dye!? "YUKK!!" (did that just answer my own question? I think so.)
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carl says...
mark, sorry i meant to say that i have been told by some people we know who live in china that most goji berries come from others parts of china (not the tibet part of china) that are close to many sources of pollution..so that there are issues with contamination....
so dont believe the 'from tibet' comments on any packaging...


you can buy dried ones cheap in perth in kakulas in the city for about $25/kg from memory...plus some asian shops in northbridge

they are commonly used as an ingredient is some chinese soup recipes
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amanda says...
Lucky u Mark - I would love to know how to make mead - I also like to have it warm in a pottery mug in winter...mmm...almost as good as my Mum's Rum-toff...a fruity brew..very nice.
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rev says...
Mead is easy to make
easier than fruit wine

1.5kg honey
Citric acid
Cup cold tea (for tannin)(i prefer a china tea than an Indian type for its finer flavour)
Yeast nutrient
wine Yeast
hot water made up to a 4.5L demijohn

its a 2 stage ferment
do stage one in a fermenter
then rack that to a glass demijohn with airlock to allow the fructose to ferment out over a few weeks

itll settle and you rack from the lees
i think once into clean demijohn
after that you can botle it

best if aged months to a year, butwinter is going to come around and you'll want that spiced metheglin

re boxthorn - yes it tastes fine, same as wolfberry. i used to add wolfberry to rice with turmeric.

and i know boxthorn is called a weed - but is it really? or is just a name farmers give it in prejudice. The wildlife dont seem to mind it - great food source and habitat. rather than damaging the environmnet its does seem to be diversifying and repairing it. and yes ive lived in geraldton, and the yorke penisular and im quite familar with the plant, the attitudes towards it and its place in the environment.

Goji is not nearly so adapted to australia, but if it does establish some populations, is that really so bad? its only going to do so if the birds like it and 'plant' it
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amanda says...
Thanks Rev - it doesn't sound as hard as I thought it would be. A new project on the horizon!
Just got my self an aquarium bubbler - so I am going to play around with compost teas. It would be great to have a chat with you sometime about mulches and teas? As you have lived in Gero u may have some ideas. I am currently using less thick layers as I read Julie Firths book regarding mulches in arid/semi-arid zones. But I am still not happy with my set-up.
I am considering overlaying the mulch with heavy shade cloth 'rounds' - to keep the roots cooler and the mulch/soil etc protected from the wind and sun - maybe even moister for longer so the worms can do their thing?
What do u think?
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Rev says...
well...
from what i remember the native earthworms of the arid zones are arid zones specialists
they 'aestivate' in the extended dry season, cover themselves in mucous to prevent drying, some 30cm deep or so.
using epigeic or compost worms is very limited in the semi-arid regions, they'll never be 'feral'

compost teas i think work.but limit them to working in tune with your semi-arid biology. winter is the wet season and the period where life surfaces, do it now, and settle back to aestivate in summer
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26th August 2010 9:00pm
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amanda says...
He he! Rev - that's exactly what I do in summer! There is just no point in doing anything other than turning on a tap every few days...
Interesting about the worms - I have never seen a native worm here.
We had one of those aestivating frogs in our spud patch though! I was so pleased that it thought our veggie garden was a nice place to be (no chemicals ever used in it - we happy to share)
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Rev says...
Was it a Pobblebonk?
http://www.flexiblefarming.com.au/Pics/Aug3009/Froginhand.jpg

I heard about the native worms in the wheatbelt attending an AgWA soils lectures at Wongan hills, i think
about 10-12 years ago
Steve wyllie was involved
ifs hes about ask him to fwd you any persons who know about the native earthworms
they defintely exist
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amanda says...
Ta Rev - looks close - what a cute name. My 5yr old holding it here - it's a bit puffed up - in a huffy! :)
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Lorna says...
Hey Amanda,
I see on your Edibles page that you had Butia or Jelly palm on your wish list. Do you still need them? I have several trees, and they give me beautiful fruit out of season, when there is not much else. I noticed the other day some seedlings coming up, and there are always lots of seed available from uner the tree. I am in Albany, WA.
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amanda says...
Hello Lorna - I would love some seed if it's ok? I was going to ask u about your sunshine special passionfruit also - as mine has a low grade woodiness virus - but I am very keen on the fruit...?

I have a few things I can swap also - my email sunley@wn(dot)com(dot)au. Would be great to hear from u. thanks!
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Lorna says...
Amanda, I will email you within five minutes of posting this, with regards to the seed. If you don't hear from me, it means I have got your address wrong.
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Brian says...
Growing goji
We have been growing goji since 2004 in Victoria and the key point is to get some good plants that produce fruit with good taste. If you just grow from seed you usually get poor quality plants and disappointing results. Most of the commercially avaliable plants seem to come from such stock and all the ones i have bought have not done well - you can get a few fruit but not enough to make it worthwhile.
Regarding weediness, we have not had any cases of self seeding but plants will sucker up and spread as a patch. I you want to get rid of plants, they are not hard to remove. So they they do not have the tenacity of the boxthorn. But we do use a selected variety, not a wild type.
If you have a good location - well drained, dry, sunny, alkaline then you should try a few goji plants. But ask me about the pitfalls of cultivation first - they you'll get some nice ones to eat - good fresh ones are very nice!
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Jantina says...
OK Brian, I'm very interested in what you have to say about cultivation, not to mention where I can buy a good tasting/bearing vine. Thanks.
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Mark says...
Jantina,, We got our Goji tree from Bunnings,& it is fruiting well. ... I asked where I could get one on this forum too & someone told me at Bunnings.
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Mark says...
Ron, You don't have to go to ebay to find Goji berries! Just buy a pack from your local shop.health food shops usually have them. .. Then soak in water as you said etc,etc. ... But Don't throw the water away,as it makes an excellent drink! (quite expensive too if you buy it as a drink). ... We soak Goji Berries in Home Made Mead!! ... We do this usually for just a week or 2, but the other night we found a jar of Berries soaking in Mead that we had put away over 2 Years ago! ... You couldn't buy the taste of that drink! I just had a sip of it & put the jar away for another year or so.
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Jantina says...
Thanks Mark but the way I read Brians post he said most commercially available stock comes from seed grown (and I would have thought Bunnings are seed grown, there is certainly no cultivar name on them that I've seen). It sounded like he might have some good goji plants for sale.Perhaps he was just teasing us.
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Quietaustralian says...
I planted a goji about 12 months ago and its suckering everywhere. The plant is about to become mulch
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zak says...
i would like to buy some goji plants,im in PERTH,can i get them send over by post?
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BJ says...
First check your local Bunnings and other garden centres. Usually they have a few.
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gero says...
the berries contain some amounts of toxic alkaloid and can cause a narcotic effect? sounds good eh?
we eat them all the time and the local farmers market sells jam from them.
have never had any effects from this so called toxic! and they are very delicous.
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ringelstrumpf says...
I couldn't resist and bought a plant at the local nursery. "Goji Nelly Kelly". I planted it in semi-shade (apparently it likes dun or semi shade),I think it's dead, all leaves dropped. Either it was the slugs or it didn't like the wet weather. I'll make another try with some berries from the health food store.
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Lan Nguyen says...
Could anyone help me out with my Goji Berrie please. I got one plant from Daleys about 4 months ago, and it has a lot of fruit now, but the fruit taste a bit bitter. Does anyone know why? What should I do to make the fruit sweet?
Many thanks
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Hayden says...
I think i will give the nellie kelly goji berry a go. They wernt very expensive last time i checked . Do they grow to 2m in a pot? And could i make it into a weeping plant.
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Paul says...
I bought a small goji plant a couple of years back & de-potted it & planted it out in the garden, after some initial growth it then lost all its leaves & became very woody, so I cut it right back (scary stuff ..... looked even more dead!) then I dug it up- doused the root bed in worm juice & put it in a medium sized pot, & it's re-sprouted & quite vigorous at the moment (summer 2011), the only thing is going forward, if I leave it in the pot how am I going to grow it- the branches are really thin- sort of bramble-like- do people who have grown then successfully have them growing out in the garden proper or in a pot, & do you give them something to grow on like trellised wire, or similar?

Many thanks for a reply,
Paul
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snottiegobble says...
Same thing here Paul but I grew them from seed left in a gogi berry packet from the supermarket. They germinated easily & grew really well until summer then most died & the others went spindly as you describe so I ditched them. I put it down to WA being too hot, but you had the same results in Vic.so I believe maybe only in Tassie with some luck, after all they grow well in Russia!
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recher says...
weeds are a subgroup of naturalized plants. to be a weed you must have serious impact on agriculture, and / or environment ... and / or

almost any overseas exotic has an eco-niche somewhere it could naturalize

i'd love wild goji berries
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denise says...
I grew and sold thousands of goji plants in 2006 at an affordable price.Overseas nurseries said they grew well.I discontinued them because they only grew well for some people in the South Island.Another nursery since then started- and still grows them- for a high price and they will mostly all die.
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brett says...
my bush just keeps flowering and fruiting and wont grow not that its a problem but will it kill itself :??
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Locky says...
I have just read from top to bottom and have just bought some seeds. I will give it ago but will limit sharing with friends I feel due to the weed thing. Hopefully will make next entry re sucessful in 2 maybe 3 years.
PS going to try the JuJube too.

Have a good one. Big L
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Annie says...
Hi Paul,
I nearly ditched mine thinking they had died but thankfully I didn't.
Goji Berry plants (aka Wolf Berries) do naturally die back in winter giving the appearance of dead plants where ever they are growing.Apart from natural rain they need no extra watering in winter esp if kept in a part shade position and in summer I only give mine a good watering once a week unless it is extremely hot and the leaves are starting to wilt.
I brought mine as young plants and have been growing them in pots for the past 3 years though I am still waiting for them to flower which can take 2 to 3 years. I have been making the mistake of cutting them right back in winter rather than giving them a light trim leaving the stronger branches alone which can deter flowering during the late summer,I will know more this summer - early Autumn which is when the fruit should be set.
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Annie says...
Hi Brett,
I doubt it will kill itself. All the growth is going into producing fruit so it is natural that the plant itself has stopped growing.I'd be inclined to give it a good feed.
You didnt mention if it is in a pot or not which could also impact growth and if that is the case I would wait till it has gone dormant to replant.
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Dr greenthumb says...
Hey it's Brett just diff email :p and it is in a pot it gets seasol fortnightly in warmer months eg now and once again still just pumping out fruit and no real growth :/
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Roderick says...
These people at www.gojinursery.com have one year plants that are decendants of those grown in Montana along the railroad since the 1880's.

So this way you are getting proven hardy stock of Lycium barbarum.

If you use seed started Goji they take at least two years to fruit.

These Goji plants from Montana came to the USA from the Chinese who worked on the railroad building the tracks. These hard working people ate the Goji berries for strength and energy.

The one year plants are available at www.gojinursery.com

These are proven hardy in the USA for well over 100 years! The plants have no problems going thru -23 degree winters.

The online plant supplier gives free shipping too.

Goji grow so fast and every home should have them growing.
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denise1 says...
The boxthorn is a weed because since it is thorny it doesnt readily get browsed out. Goji plants are highly palatable. The goji berry would over time do the same thing as thorny variations develop. However it is probably just a fad and will probably never get to that stage unless it is carelessly planted in large numbers for a number of years near a suitable growing environment. With dried goji berries available cheaply enough from supermarkets, there is no longer a need to grow them in Australia. It is a good time to stop growing them before they take off. I stopped growing them a few years ago.
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denise1 says...
If anyone wants to grow an antioxidant rich superfruit, the next wave is the yumberry (yang mei, chinese bayberry) ,MYRICA RUBRA, The great tasting fruit only last a few days so more suitable for home garden. It grows into a small tree. Most dealers have been selling dead seeds which has not helped. I am expecting good seeds shortly. Maybe Daleys can grow them
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Julie says...
denise, where are you getting the good seeds from? How do you know they are reliable? they sound good.
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denise1 says...
The yumberry seeds are from a large american company in China. Perhaps Jantina can send you some seeds. They were offered as fresh seeds from the recent crop and have had the required time in cold fridge. All ready to grow.
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Jantina says...
Happy to send you some IF they get thru AQIS Julie. Just had an email from Denise saying she is having problems with NZ quarantine due unprofessional packaging and no label, Ive not heard or seen anything of mine yet.
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Julie says...
Thanks Jantina. I grew Gogi once before, so they should do OK here.
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Jantina says...
Hooray the Myrica Rubica seeds arrived today. Will be sending seeds to John Mc, Phil, Snottie, Julie, Amanda, BJ, Dora,Jenny,Natalie, Nick T, Sonia and Amy and any others who let me know. Mike?
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John Mc says...
Woah, my utmost thanks Jantina, cheers. Chasing anything yourself?, where I may be able to assist, perhaps?
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Mike says...
Jantina no need to waste them on me.If you are rollin' in piles of unallocated seeds kert/john,BJ,Peter in adelaide and David in Briz are likely to want a slice of the action.
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Jantina says...
I have an address for Peter but not kert/john or David and do you know where Jujube is these days. Haven't forgotten you Violet.
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Mike says...
Jantina I will send an e-mail to jujube alerting her to you post.I saw her and her hubby Ian last week.
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Jantina says...
Thanks Mike. There's 2,000 seeds in this parcel so I'd like to spread them far and wide.
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Mike says...
Jantina my bayberry ambitions were thwarted.My plans were to pass them on to a few people who sought them and had a 'need for seed'You would be a top gun if you could supply Denise (auckland),peter (adelaide), David (briz),John Mc, BJ, John/Kert,Jujube and a few others who previously showed interest.Some of the other regulars would no doubt be bustin' for a slice of the action.Some 'sub-nodal' distributors may ease the postal pain.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Jantina,

Many thanks for thinking of me. I would love some bayberry seeds please. I will send an email to you very soon with the address.

Many thanks Mike for alerting me.
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Julie says...
Some interesting info on Myrica rubra here.



http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Myrica+rubra
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Julie says...
And some more info on germination. Sounds tricky - no wonder people haven't been getting results.

http://www.cabdirect.org/abstracts/20013038115.html

I will put this also in the Myrica rubra thread, where it rightly belongs!
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PeterN says...
I managed to get a Goji sucker to take root and it is absolutely flying along. I have planted it in a well drained semi shade area and it loves the location. The test will be, how it reacts to our Summer heat as we have some really hot days with dry north winds. We are thinking of planting a few in Karragullen. How well do they grow in this area?
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bindi says...
Started mine from seed back in October I think, and is now in a large cement pot in full sun on my front veranda. Although the main stem seems to be quite thin and lanky, it has really taken off, with a few new stems surfacing around the base. I am a block off the ocean here and was worried about the salt air which can sometimes be pretty noticable on the nose. But all seems well.
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Anthony says...
Hi. Has anyone had any experience with Goji Nero, Lycium ruthenicum murr. Black goji is supposedly another super healthy fruit from China. Not a lot of info on the net that I can find.
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Fay says...
I've bought some black goji seed and will be trying it soon. I've already got a goji vine and a goji bush. Not far from me is a ton of African box thorn that's filled a paddock. They taste a little tomatoey when they're raw and they make nice jam.
They've really gone out of control.
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ivepeters says...
The grown fruit taste better than the dried health food stuff at least.
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yinchuan.de says...
Great article! Thanks for sharing all this information! By the way, I published an article about Goji berries from Ningxia here: http://yinchuan.de/ningxia-goji-berries/
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IanM says...
It seems highly likely to me that Goji WILL become an environmental weed in future, given the large number of people all over Australia who are now growing it. All it will take is one irresponsible person to spoil it for the rest of us. People growing this species need to be aware of how easily plants can become listed as a noxious weed in this country. All it takes is one single plant to be found on a roadside for it to be accepted as "naturalized" by a Government department, who will then begin the process of having it listed as a "new incursion". The "threat level" will then be assessed. This is especially the case in South Australia, Tasmania, Western Australia, and the Northern Territory. It will not be long before every state follows this same "anti-exotic" agenda, as there is a new breed of bureaucrat entering Government that not only despises exotics but also has no time or patience for gardening.

So please people, be careful with your plants and prevent birds from eating them. Also do not do silly things like plant a Goji in the nearby nature strip, or allow seedlings to wash down the local gully or creek line. It is up to us to be responsible, as Governments are totally unsympathetic towards gardeners of exotic plants these days and need very little excuse to ban an entire genus on the basis of a single species. Given that Lycium ferocissimum is an invasive and noxious weed it is in fact surprising the Goji was ever permitted. I suspect it was allowed solely because of its economic potential as a food crop species. But that status will change very quickly if it ever starts popping up on roadsides or in the bush.
I would personally like to grow the European boxthorn (Lycium europeum), but there is no chance of that, given its similarities to African boxthorn.
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SueBee says...
Does anyone have comparative pics of Lyceum Barbarum and Lyceum Chinense? I think I have Chinense but in 4 years it has never flowered or fruited just makes very long canes.
pic is of the canes & leaves and growth at base.Can anyone confirm Chinense?
Does it need a pollinator perhaps?
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