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Hi, I have a banana in fruit but I don't know when to cut the flower off and bag the bunch. The flower keeps producing more little fruit so I've been reluctant to do anything. Any ideas?
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tr says...
the small fruits will never get any bigger ,, just cut of the bell and leave plenty of stalk to grab when cutting the bunch down .. I hang mine upside down .
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Dekka says...
Thanks Tr, Should I be giving it extra water while the fruit develop? And at what stage should I cut the bunch off?
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trikus says...
they really need an inch of rain a week , every week to get nice fat fruit . wait until the fruit has rounded out before picking . it will be very angular now . can take up to 6 months depending on what type it is . wait until you hear the fruit bats screaming and eating the first hand then pick !!! hehe .. bag them if you can get up there , and make a note to check in 3 months or so .. keep an eye on them .. I love home grown bananas .. got 6 different ones planted out no , and they are growing like the clappers.
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Stella says...
On a different track. Could you tell me please if a Bananas root system is very extensive/invasive. I want to plant near our pool but don't want them to wreck the liner
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John I. says...
Hi All, I just planted my first Lady Finger and Red Dacca. They are Cool Banana brand (from Humphris nursery). I was just wondering if anyone has had luck with fruiting bananas in Melbourne?
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Jantina says...
I do not live in Melb anymore but saw a banana plant with a bunch of fruit on it in a backyard last year. Around Clayton way.
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Lucy says...
I saw an office in Carinish rd Clayton near railway line had a banana grown in the big pot indoor with a flower about to open.
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John I. says...
Thanks Jantina & Lucy,
I've been scouring forums and there are a number of people who have seen bananas growing in Melbourne. But I still haven't found anyone who is successfully growing fruiting bananas themselves.

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Tony says...
Hi Stella, A banana plant/tree itself doesn't have a deep root system even late into fruit bearing stage. However, the suckers (little banana plants) will eventually spreadout extensively in the surrounding areas. I therefore wouldn't plant any banana tree near an above ground swimming pool.
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John I. says...
Hi Stella,
Tony's reply implies that you can plant near your pool (but not too close) if you are willing to remove any suckers heading in the direction of the pool. This can be done by using a sharp shovel to "Cut downwards between the mature plant and the sucker". See the following link for more details... http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/growing-bananas.html
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Jantina says...
John l, ok, I will email Kirst who has bananas growing and fruiting next door to her in Melb. and see if she can ask the neighbours if they will talk to you or let you visit.
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John I. says...
Thanks Jantina, I guess the sort of questions I have are around what things I can do to ensure that my tree's fruit consistently in our Melbourne climate. All the forums I have read for cold climate care of bananas are for extreme environments where snow and ice are an issue. In these cases people uproot there whole tree's and store them over winter in a garage or basement. Others remove all the leaves and rap the tree's with straw and chicken wire.
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Jantina says...
Email has gone out, we await reply. Goodness I thought I was keen but having to uproot plants and store them over winter or wrap them in straw and chickenwire? I have my hands full agonizing over the best site I have for things and then keeping them watered and protected from our occasional frosts!
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Jason says...
John, I've got quite a few different varieties of bananas now in a colder climate than Melbourne, Dwarf Ducasse and Ducasse are the best two. Jantina I've got a Ladyfinger banana in a pot here for you too, it's ready to plant anytime your going past next
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Jantina says...
Thankyou Jason, you've been off the airwaves for a while and our computer went haywire and I lost email addresses etc.Could you email me again with your ph.no. please and we can make arrangements to collect the banana. Also you probably didn't see the post where I said I've got 3 grafted lucumos coming and did you want one?
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John I. says...
Thanks Jason, what do you do to protect them in winter?
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Jantina says...
John l, have received email from Kirst. Apparently the man next door has moved but she has fruited bananas herself and said she will try to find time to write on the forum.
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John I. says...
Thanks Jantina.
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John I. says...
Jason, where did you get your Dwarf Ducasse from?


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Firefly says...
John I, Blue Sky Backyard Bananas currently have some available.

http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/index.html
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John I. says...
Thanks Firefly. I was hoping to find somewhere a little closer to Melbourne.
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eddiemonster says...
I was wondering if anyone knows i have a dwarf cavendish variety that has just started to produce the suckers was wondering if the sucker i choose will be dwarf again even the ones i separate thx
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HappyEarth says...
The seperated banana suckers will be dwarf also

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eddiemonster says...
Thx Rich for reply and good website
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John I. says...
This weeks Gardening Australia program (episode 9) had a segment on how too replant a sucker. If your interested go to http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s2528894.htm and click on the "Watch the story" link to view the video.
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Tran says...
Thanks John. It is very useful to know how to replant a banana plant.

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Jantina says...
Hi John I, how goes it ? Have you managed to find anyone with a fruited banana yet? I haven't heard from Jason again and I sent away for a dwarf ducasse from bluesky bananas. It was only a small plant but is putting out new leaves and growing well. I've got it in a north facing partially enclosed verandah along with my other subtropicals.
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John I. says...
Hi Jantina. No I haven't found anyone in Melbourne yet, but if Jason has them fruiting in Portland I shouldn't have to many problems. I'm still worried about frost in the coming winter, and am thinking I will cover them overnight with aluminet. I don't have a good heat sink (such as a north facing wall) so I'm going to have to find a way to add some heat on the coldest nights.

I ended up getting a standard Cool Bananas Ducasse. I planted it near an east facing fence so I thought it's probably better to have a lager plant than the dwarf (so it can catch the afternoon sun when it reaches fence hight).
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Jantina says...
What's aluminet John? I think seasol helps plants resist frost. What about putting some warm bricks near the base of the banana on those really cold nights? Or a big container of really hot water?
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John I. says...
Aluminet is like shade cloth but metalic. It's supposed to reflect heat back towards the plant. Warm bricks and hot water are both good ideas, but I'm thinking of using some pond lights at the base of the plants. I already have some that aren't being used, and I have a timer that I could set to go on around 4:00am and turn off around 7:00am.
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John I. says...
Hi Jantina. Heres a picture of my bananas. The large one is a Lady Finger, which was planted mid Jan (when it was about a foot high). The small one at the back is a Ducasse which I planted on the weekend, and the small one at the front is a red Dacca that I had replanted into a large pot in late Jan, and replanted in its current location last night.
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Jantina says...
Hello John, I've been away for a few days. Your bananas look good I'm interested to hear how the pond lights go and I am going to see if there is any aluminet available locally.
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John I. says...
Hi Jantina,
I finally found a supplier for Aluminet, but I think the cost is going to be prohibitive. Looks like warm bricks and hot water may have to do.
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amanda says...
Bananas? why bother. Home grown tastes no different from commercial except if u can get Carnarvon (WA) ones (yes - they are sweeter and yummier than QLD - sorry guys). Plus they are cheap to buy. My plant from Bunnings has turned out to be a water shoot. on ya bunnings!?
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trikus says...
Amanda , home grown will be far better as they are usually much superior cultivars than the commercial cavendish .
Also Bunnings would be selling tissue cultured plants , no one would dig up the thousands they require for a min. order !
Small plants generated by T/C may look like a water shoot but grow much better . Even a water shoot will grow but take longer .
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John I. says...
Hi Amanda,

There are several reasons why I bother...
1. Bananas are my favourite fruit.
2. The supermarkets only stock 2 varieties.
3. I've been told they they can be successfully grown in Melbourne (and would like to see for myself).
4. I've always wondered what a fresh home grown banana tastes like.
5. I've also learnt a lot about gardening in general, just by researching ways of successfully growing bananas.

Bananas aren't the only fruit I grow. I also bother to grow apples, peaches, nectarines, fig, raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, kiwi fruit, and a number of seasonal vegetables. I'm also trying dragon fruit, and have a babaco on order. Attempting to grow subtropical fruit doesn't exclude me from also growing other fruits more suited to my climate. It does however increase my interest in gardening, and my general understanding plant care.
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Kath says...
Hi Amanda,I bought one banana plant years ago for $2 & have had kilos & kilos from it's offspring. They are no bother-I chucked it in the chookyard where the retic hits it & never fertilize it, & it's fantastic with nice big bunches. Since then I've bought some Cavendish from Bunnings & Tass 1 & Lady's fingers. I'm surprised more people don't grow them as they look great & watching the bananas form is pretty cool-I've had many people comment they'd never seen them forming close up -they are fascinating to watch over a few days as they change so quickly. Kids especially like picking a banana and it is so much nicer than getting it from a big airconditioned supermarket when you can bet they have been gassed to ripen.I am hour south of Perth so they can handle a bit of cooler weather.
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trikus says...
I am sad that I did not garden more in the many years I lived in Melbourne . But i remember vividly the headlines and pictures in the local suburban newspapers when someone got bananas to fruit . I also remember seeing hundreds of houses with bananas in the back yards , especially along the Frankston line while in the train .
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amanda says...
oops - sorry john didn't mean to offend. Gor for it! My plant definitely a water shoot according to a professional grower. I live in low rainfall area and don't recommend dripper irrigation for these - it's too confining for the suckers. I was reading Glowinskis report about apples and tend to agree - u have to weigh up the pros n cons i guess. Never-the-less my banana plant is getting the chop 2morrow to make way for something else (a capulin cherry) - and that's the fun of gardening - you can always change your mind!?
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John I. says...
Hi Amanda,
No I wasn't offended. I'm sorry if my response sounded abrupt (it must be the German coming out of me). I'm expecting fruit from my bananas within the next two years (provided the frost doesn't get to them). If that fails then I'll have to do the same thing and replace them with something else. It won't be easy though because they are located near an easment, so I can't replace them with anything that has a large root system.
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peter says...
amanda,
is that report from glowinski about
apples available anywhere for me to read.
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amanda says...
The book is The Complete Book of Fruit Growing in Australia by Louis Glowinski. It's mentioned alot in the forum so I guess it's just about our bible! It's an excellent reference book. There was a segment on Gardening Aust about a new banana (for cold climates) that they have popped in down in Tassie! - only recently - it may be in the next magazine issued.
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Hi Amanda,
I saw the Gardening Australia segment. The banana they planted is branded Cool Bananas www.humphrisnursery.com.au/coolbanana/info/coolbananas.html
They are sold by bunnings and various other nurseries around Melbourne. I have three varieties of them. From what I have read they are considered cool climate bananas because they are a little bit more cold tolerant, and because the time it takes for fruit to ripen is shorter than other varieties.
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amanda says...
I'm skeptical (like the presenter!) - but, good luck with your search! If Teddy can grow Chilean guavas in Tassie then anythings possible I reckon!
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stef heinze says...
G'day John I, I have a 3 year old cool bananas, Dwarf Cavendish growing in Kew against high eastern fence (to protect against hot NW winds in Summer); 7 ft high and going beautifully with minimal care. Have found them at Bulleen Art and Garden and Greener Life in Hawthorn
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juanita says...
I also have a 2yr old cool bananas ladyfinger & a 1 yr old cool bananas pisang ceylan variety...They're growing against high eastern fence & sheltered by tall lemon tree against hot NW winds in summer..Both are thriving beautifully but I find ladyfinger is more cold hardy than pisang ceylan.
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stef heinze says...
Hi Juanita, any tips on how to get them to fruit?
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trikus says...
Lots of water , eq. of 20 mm of rain a week is best , and lots of food . They are gross feeders , so use a different fertilizer each week , and hit with a blossom booster early in summer could give you a bunch before it gets to cold .
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John I. says...
Hi Stef and Juanita,
My Red Dacca is already showing signs of frost damage from the light frosts we had recently ( it's in it's first year). I noticed that the temps we get out here in the west are general 3 to 4 degrees below the Melbourne forcast.

Trikus, it's not recomended to feed and water bananas over winter down here in Melbourne. We don't get much growth due to the low temps, and the new growth is succeptable to frost. The blossum boosters a good idea though.
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stef heinze says...
Thanks everyone, what is a blossom booster?
Also would anyone know where to get an Abyssinian banana - several in our suburb, look fantastic and reputed to survive cold well
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John I. says...
Stef, a fertilizer that is low in nitrogen but high in potasium and phosphorus is often recomended as a way to boost flowering (and support fruit growth).
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John I. says...
Stef, just to clarify I think what trikus was suggesting was to fertilize heavily in spring with a high nitrogen mix (to promote growth) and then in late spring or early summer reduce the nitrogen and increase the potasium and phosphorus.
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stef heinze says...
Thanks John
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Michael says...
Has anyone ever grown bananas in large pots successfully ? I have very limited space but would love to grow bananas and my only option is to use large pots . Would this be possible or would it be just a waste of time ?
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John I. says...
Micheal, I scoured the web a few month ago to find an answer to this. The experts all claimed that it was not possible. I did however come across a blog where the guy had a plant (dwarf variety) in a pot next to his desk at work. He watered and feed it daily and it did flower and begin to fruit. The blog kind of ended there so there was no mention of the fruit maturing.
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marg says...
I have small abyssinain banana plants...just popping up around the garden at the moment...so if you want a couple of little ones they are yours..they will take 2 years to look spectacular. they come from a plant that grew to 10m tall with leaves at least 3m in length..
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randey says...
my first plantain was in an old copper and with vigorous feeding and watering it not only flowered but gave me about 3 hands that matured. just keep in mind that if you do pot grow them you are going to have use a BIG pot and be aware that you will have to repot every so often to accomodate the new suckers.
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stef heinze says...
Hi Marg, I would love a couple of Abyssinians, where are you? I am in Kew, Vic.
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Hi stef just remember they are small I am in Camberwell so just around the corner..email syndet@msn.com.au and I'll send you my address

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Michael says...
Has anyone ever grown those tiny asian variety bananas literally the size of your small finger ? My local nursery was selling it for $60 a plant which I was very keen on buying but I wanted some more information from people who have grown it .
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juanita says...
Any suggestions what's the best fertiliser high in potassium & phosphorus for bananas?...Tnx in advance.
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Kath says...
I have my bananas in the chook yard & that's all the fertilizer they get & do well-that is until a big wind storm took out three huge stalks with bunches on them!!
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Hi Kath - sorry 4 your losses!! thats every gardeners worst nightmare picture!?
I have two mates that are ex-banana growers from Carnarvon and they have both looked at my plant n had a laugh!

Interesting their thoughts tho' - in WA (outside of kimberley) we are growing in a more marginal climate. They plant very (very) thickly in C'von. This is to increase shade n humudity - but also for support (still get cyclonic winds there) I keep thinking of B'nanas growing in their home environ - supported by the rain forest and the concommitant humidity/rainfall.

Your plants look great! Was that the recent storm we all copped? Every single one of my trees got thru' that with no damage at all - I was stoked - I have been practising deep infrequent watering and been "treating them mean to keep them keen" - not because I knew any better but it just made 'sense' to me somehow? Maybe a couple of 2.4m star pickets and some loops of rope could save them next time?
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Michael says...
Has anyone grown the small variety banana in the picture ?
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Jantina says...
They look like Ladyfinger bananas Michael, I have some plants growing and doing well but too young to fruit yet. Where is Wakeley? Kath I think I would have cried, they look like they were doing great.
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trikus says...
Loks like what is called Monkey bananas around here .. very popular with certain Asian growers . Fruits are very small , like really the same size as a ladys little finger .. ie , much smaller than what is commonly called Lady Finger [ act. I think these are a type of sugar ]
Very dificult to legally get different ones that are not mass propagated .
I am trying to source some and getting all permits and inspections and will try to get it put into the local lab for TC.
Michael I think they are really worth trying , smaller fruit should ripen quicker , and from what I hear the Mong [? sp.] may be hill tribes and these could have some cool tolerance .
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Speedy says...
Banana names are really frustrating.
There are differnt names in different countries and cultures for bananas of the same variety
and same names for different varieties.
very confusing. :-?

The little banana in the pic is known in some contries as 'Lady finger',
but in Aust that name is used for other bananas.
As trikus said, it's generally known in Aust as 'Monkey Banana'.
I think it's official name is 'Sucrier' (genome formula AA).

I managed to get a small plant in early 1990's but it didn't survive. :-(

Malay friends know it as 'Pisang Mas' (lit. Golden banana) ,
and Thai friends call it 'Klue Khai'

Trikus, if you do manage to secure some and get it to TC,
I'd really love some.
Please let me know if you do. :-)

Here's a very handy reference for Banana cultivars.

http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Musa.html#con.names

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Michael says...
The banana i'm referring to is smaller then what is sold as Lady Fingers . Here's pictures of the banana I bought today comparing it to a match box ,50 cent coin and a sugar banana. There is even a smaller version of this banana which they don't have in season yet but it's 3/4 the length and width of the attach banana.
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Speedy says...
Did whoever you bought it from have a name for it?
The 'monkey banana' or 'sucrier' is about that big and has quite a thin skin and a sort of gold tone to the flesh.
The stem of the one in the pic looks a bit bigger in proportion to the fruit than I remember though.
maybe this is something else and the not in season 3/4 size banana is 'monkey banana'
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Michael says...
Here is a picture I came across on the net which is exactly what i want . Small dwarf banana fruiting inside a container.
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John I. says...
Hi Michael, It looks like a super dwarf cavendish. I don't know where to get them but have a look at this link for some info...
http://www.hardytropicals.co.uk/Bananas/Musa_cavendishi_Super_Dwarf.php
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Michael says...
Thanks John for the link - Wish we could get this in Australia one day.
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John I. says...
Michael, there is a nursery near Melbourne that sells a super dwarf banana but when I asked what type it was and if it fruited I was told that they didn't know. Here is a link to their website...
http://www.denisestropicalgardens.com.au/products.php?base=34
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trikus says...
Here is a bearing dwarf ducasse .. the bunch is right in your face ... I am 2m . and I just held my arm horizontal to take the picture of the fruit . It would be very easy to harvest the fruit , and one of the best for pot cultivation .
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Sally says...
I have seen super dwarf banana musa acuminata it says ornamental but was told still edible looked on the net but could not get a proper response if anyone can help thx
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trikus says...
Musa acuminata covers most of the normal eating types of bananas .. so go for it .
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Jess says...
so even if it states ornamental should be ok because i saw one exactly the same musa acuminata but stayed away i didnt want to waste my time if i couldnt eat them so u think will be fine?
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trikus says...
Seller is just being smart calling it Musa acuminata . Esp. if they have no idea what cultivar it is . ANd .....
Musa acuminata covers most of the normal eating types of bananas .. so go for it .
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John I. says...
Hi Sally, where did you see the super dwarf banana?
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Sally says...
Hi John i saw it in carrum downs it says ornamental on the tree but said if it fruits can be eaten as i said it was musa acuminata i bought 1 just in case because they didnt have many left any ideas John
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John I. says...
Hi Sally, I can't find much information about the super dwarf from australian websites. According to some of the international websites they are often advertised as ornamental but do produce small sweet eadible fruit. The main varieties seem to be the super dwarf novak, and super dwarf cavandishi. Then there are a whole range of brand named versions in the US. I think it is worth a try anyway. How long have you had yours?
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Sally says...
Hi John i just bought it on the weekend i also had a look on websites and they all went back to super dwarf cavandish so i can only hope. If you dont mind answering this question might seem stupid but when they say ornamental does it mean it does not produce fruit at all just foliage and i think all bananas are edible have not come across any that are bad for you
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John I. says...
Sally, I always thought that ornamental meant that it didn't fruit at all or that the fruit was of such a poor quality that it wasn't worth eating. From what I've read recently this does not appear to be true. There is a good chance that your super dwarf will produce small sweet fruit that could taste nice.
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Sally says...
John fingers crossed hoping for the best then thank you so much for your input will be a pleasure if fruiting well and suckers come up more then welcome to grab 1 if your still around
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John I. says...
Thanks Sally. If it does fruit I'd love to get a pup from you. Good luck. Keep us posted.
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rus says...
After reading the posts about bananas on here, particularly kath and the other WA growers i decided to give one a go. I rang up about lady fingers advertised in the quokka (free advert paper) for $10. Went to pick it up and they they had litterally hundreds with many in fruit. The sucker they gave me was easily 5 foot tall.
Any fears i had about being able to grow them in suburban perth have been banished.
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Just bear in mind they ripen very late in the season, so you might be best to pick them ealry and ripen inside with a ripe apple as a source of etylene in a bag for best results.
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Bonnie says...
Hi kath, I'm in the hills of Perth and I've a spot in my garden that gets lots of water and nutrients like you described. Would you consider selling me some shoots from your bananas? I'd love to have a grow.
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Jimmy says...
Bunnings normally have some over summer, otherwise Tass 1 trees in Baskerville always has them,
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juanita says...
Hi Stef & John1,
Mine hasn't fruited yet...How will i get them to fruit is a BIG ?? for me when most of their foliage have gone brown or died in winter..However, i know somebody in our suburb who managed to get one of his banana trees fruited for him but he's not willing to share his secret/expertise w/ anyone but one thing i've noticed his banana trees are being shaded by next door huge tall gum tree & that could be the trick??
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Hi Juanita as per my pictures i roughly framed the area then put the clear roofing on top and put shade cloth around the frame and also lined it with bubble wrap from the inside and did not die only opened the side during nice days otherwise just watered and feed them. i live in the south east suburbs and my friends neighbour didnt protect and was not looking the best. Hope this will help you and others.
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amanda says...
Hey juanita - I reckon u may be right about the shade thing - I transplanted my banana to a spot that has double the shade and shelter (from wind) and it's improved out of sight! It's even got a super greedy acacia nearby.
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My Cavandish (I think) has taken 3 years from a knee high sucker to flower. I was getting to much wind damage on the leaves and not enough love. Its suckers are doing much better as I improve the wind issue and microclimate. I was cosidering putting shadecloth over the top to keep all the wind out but might see how they go.

ITs 40ish today and they dont show any sign of stress.

How tall are you bananas Kath ? They look 3-4 meters or so. I wonder if mine will get larger with more protection.
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Maurice says...
Hi all, a very interesting forum. A friend purchased 2 banana plants for me from Denise's
in Carrum downs in late Aug 09 which I thought I would plant as an experiment, I planted them in early September, I requested a Cavendish and a Lady Finger. Since then they have doubled in size. Is there any way to identify which type they are ? I think the larger one is the Cavendish. They are getting a new leaf approximately every 7 to 9 days. The larger one got it's first sucker last week and I was optimistically hoping that the fruiting stage may be imminent, I now know that this is quite unlikely to happen this summer season from the other posts and maybe not the next. The larger one is around 5ft tall so I am guessing it must be a dwarf since if has a sucker already. I am not intending to uproot them as I don't think Melbourne's winter should be a problem. Thinking of housing them in a minature plastic structure in their current position. Has anyone had any luck with fruiting bananas in Melbourne and how were they kept viable over Winter, many thanks Maurice
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Hi Maurice,

I have had no problem with banana plants in Melbourne in winter. They cope very well, I have done nothing.

I lost one (got burnt) during bush fire season last year but 2 suckers came up so it was ok.

I have had the tall Cavendish plant fruited a couple of year ago twice, 3 years apart and very skinny hands. I abandoned that plant because of the drought, no water for them. I now have a water tank.

Three years ago, I started to grow again (dwarf lady finger), the first year I grew in pot from a rhizome, transfer into the ground the second year and lost the main one and this year the
plant is doing well. I read the QLD DPI website the other day and found for every plant, I must feed 800 grams of lime, 240 grams of nitrogen, 600 grams of potash and 60 gram of phosphate divided into 4 application from September to May (I did not do that for my first one, no wonder the fruits did not form properly).

I have done my 1st application in combination of watering every day. I could see them getting stronger and bigger every day.

My plant has blotchy pattern on the leaves when young.

I hope this helps.

Good luck.
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Maurice says...
Hi Jujube, thanks for your reply. It is very reassuring to learn that you have had some success in the past with your bananas. I will definitely persevere with them and see how they go. Haven't quite fertilizied in the manner suggested but have given them chook pallets and cow and horse manure usually mixed with water. May now consider trying some other tropical plants as well, cheers, Maurice
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Jason says...
Ive just picked up a Cavendish from Trees A Green in forrestfield yesterday. $15
Not sure how much success Ill have with it but for $15 its worth a shot.

Just repotted it into a larger pot today and keeping it in semi shade during this 40 degree week we are having.

Hows the weather up Geraldton way Amanda?
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Brad says...
Jason - I've seen a couple non-gardeners get bananas from established trees in their Perth yards, so I don't see why you won't succeed

PS saw banana tree pups at wanneroo markets - can't remember the price
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Mish says...
Hi everyone

Jason: I just picked up a Cavendish the other day too. Very excited about the adventure... It says on the tag 'perfect for containers'... or 'grow indoors'... (strange), but what size I am wondering? 50L or 100L? What size pot have you put yours in?

My main worry is protecting it from the wind... as I don't have any place in the garden where it isn't windy.
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Jason says...
Mine is just in a 35Ltr that my Nectarine came in previously. Its just so that we can get past this hot spell and then plant it in the garden. Since buying it, 2 large leaves have already come out.
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John I. says...
Does anyone know how to determine the height of a banana plant? Do you measure from the ground to the tip of the tallest leaf?
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Megan says...
John I. says...
Does anyone know how to determine the height of a banana plant? Do you measure from the ground to the tip of the tallest leaf?

Would love to know this as well anybody??
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John I. says...
Hi Megan, as far as I can tell from visiting numerous websites, it measured from the ground at the base to the point where the leaves emerge.
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Megan says...
Thx John good work
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John I. says...
My Blue Java banana plant arrived today... I'm very excited so I thought I would just share that with everyone.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
John I received a Blue Java, Dwarf Ducasse and a Goldfinger from Blue Sky in Queensland in December as in vitro specimens, they are now doing well and about 8" tall. Blue Java sounds like the pick of eating bananas, can't wait for them to get moving.
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Phil. Great picture, I can't wait... Should be about three years if they survive our Melbourne weather.
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kicker says...
can anyone tellme where i can buy an absynnian banana palm from.I have looked everywhere.
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jerry says...
i live in melton, victoria and i have a banana tree which is producing bananas
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BJ says...
Does anyone know if I would get away with growing a Blue Java in a pot? The website says it's only a bit bigger than the Dwarf Ducasse...
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trikus says...
BJ , you will need a massive pot ,plant 1 out, it will grow great in your climate , and if rented premises you can always dig up a sucker and take with you when leaving .
nb; as long as you are not leaving the banana growing region you are in now .
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John I says...
BJ, I have to agree with trikus. Blue Java will grow 3-4m as apposed to 2-3m for dwarf ducasse. Even a dwarf ducasse would be struggling to fruit in a large container.
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John I says...
Jerry, do you have any pics of your banana? What variety do you have?
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I have two spots along a fenceline that I might be able to grow them. If I don't hear back that planting them near to a fence is a bad idea, I'll go ahead and get a few in a week or so.
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Give yourself about 1m from the fence line so you can get in there to cut off suckers . The stands can get very big , this is my best grower and I should have thinned it out a bit more than I have . I have 2 bunches hanging on it now , about 1 month apart . Both are propped up on bamboo supports and they are stringed together with baling twine . These are SUPERB TASTING FRUITS .
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Marg says...
JOY OH JOY A BANANA FLOWER just emerging from a lady finger 16 months old..in a sunny spot in Camberwell Melbourne.. we have 5 other varieties (inc red dacca) planted now 10 months so we are expecting great things from them in the next year..
does anyone know how long they take from this stage in Melbourne..I gather we need to get a banana bag..and when would that need to be put on?

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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Well done Marg - I knew you could do it!
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John I says...
I'm extreamly jealous Marg. My Lady Finger is about the same age and it looks like it will be another year before I see a flower.

How tall is the pseudostem on your plant? Also what other bananas are you growing?
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HappyEarth says...
Hey Marg ... they wont ripen up until next spring/summer. Put a bag on it when you cut the bell of the stalk - which you do when you start getting lots of little bananas emerging. You'll need to support the plant as well otherwise you risk it blowing over from strong winds.

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trikus says...
Props for the bunch are a great idea , nothing worse than a massive bunch only a few weeks from ripening getting blown over . They would turn yellow but never taste the same as a tree ripened bunch . I have made up some props from long lengths of bamboo tied together so as to support the bunch just where it bends . Commercial growers also use baling twine to support 2 opposing plants .I have 2 bunches on my Java Blue prctically opposite each other , and they are tied together. It can take 6 months for a bunch to mature , especially if its cold . Dont forget to check and take a few fruits from the top of the bunch when they start rounding out . These should ripen in about 5 days . This is a great way to spread out a massive bunch .
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gus says...
Great forum everybody, inspired me to grow bananas here in Perth. Just cant find the dwarf varieties!
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Marg says...
Hi everyone and thanks for all the hints much appreciated Hi Phil all your plants are doing really well the black sapote is about 2 m now

I will start supporting it soon as it has gotten much bigger now in 1 week there are 5 hands of 10 bananas showing.
the stem is about 2.5-3m. I have only been doing the foliar feeding i bang on about but I'm thinking of adding a wee bit of potash to the soil and compost I put around it...gosh it's so great to get these.
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BJ says...
Thought I'd post a few pics in here of the Banana plots up on Murray Island. The interesting trellising and support system and fruit 'wraps' caught my eye. Not to mention the masses of fruit...
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Marg says...
like the idea maybe the baskets will keep the bats away
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trikus says...
1 bet the bamboo scaffold can be used for checking and harvesting as well.
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BJ says...
I did the drive from Cairns to Cooktown today. So many Bananas! Many just growing in the creeks in the rainforest. I saw a plantation of what I would presume are Dwarf Ducasse. So fantastic to see so many little trees full of fruit.

I am so envious of these types of places that can just purchase plants form their local nurseries!

On the other hand, I found it very hard to find any good, 'exotic' fruits besides Persimmon and Custard Apple. Despite seeing fantastic trees, many bearing ripe fruit, all along the drive...
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi BJ,

You could get some tropical fruits on the way from Cooktown back to Cairns.
- Amazone farm in Mossman on the main street, just 5 minutes out of town.
- Port Doughlas Sunday market
- Rusty market in Sheridan Street Cairns city, open Friday, Saturday and Sunday from 6 AM but normally, tropical fruits may be gone by 9 AM.

Enjoy your time in Cairns.
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BJ says...
Thanks, I'll ask about the road to Mossman and the northern beaches. I stuck to the inland road on the way up because it is pretty safe. I've got a few hours on Saturday before I have to get the plane back from Cairns to Brisbane, so I'll try the drive through Mossman and then head for Rustys. Not forgetting the fruit wineries, of course...

I just hated the fact that I had to come on a Wednesday and couldnt find any any good food to bring with me to Cooktown, as theres no hope of finding much here. They only keep the rubbish ladyfinger bananas even!
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi BJ,

Yes, I agree with you that inland road via Mareeba is much better and safer than the coastal way (Pord Doughlas, Mossman, Bloomfield etc..).

If you only have a few hours on Saturday then the best place to go is Rusty market about 2 Kms from the airport. That all you need to go.

Mangosteen and rambutans and lots of tropical fruits in season right now. Hopefully you could get some even you arrive at lunch time.

I would not try Amazone in Mossman even though it is about 70 kms from Cairn and 10 kms from Port Doughlas but getting there using winding Captain Cook HW (after northern beaches) it will take you more than one hours not counting the time to get back to Cairns.

Last time when I was there, they had green sapotes and mamey sapotes from the working farm.

I was told that there are a number of tropical fruit farms in Cooktown. I would pop in a farm and ask if I could buy some fruits from them if I was you.

Safe driving and good luck.
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BJ says...
I ended up getting a few things. Mammey Apple (Mammea) and Black Sapote were the only things I found around town. In Cairns there was lots of Rambutan, Mangosteen, Huuuge Black Sapotes and Mamey Sapotes. Not a bad score for this time of year.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
I am glad you had some nice fruits to eat.
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rev says...
anyone know where to get plantains?

i see them in the shops and markets
but they dont seem to be sold as plants

i think i remmeber seeing one in the perth zoo
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Is Bluggoe the same type of plantain you are after, or are you after a special type of Plantain?
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trikus says...
Bluggoe seems to be only plantain type legally available at the moment.
A few other types are being grown locally around South Johnstone area by approved DPI growers. And Ron Berry had the Pacific plantain growing around the Mossman area at Highfalls Fruit Farm .
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Steven says...
Hey everyone

I just wanted to ask? do bananas need to be cross pollinated in order to fruit? i bought a banana a couple of years ago which has now turned into about 5 banana plants. once the greenhouse is finished im going to plant them in the ground and am obviously hoping for fruit. but seeing that all the plants are suckers from one banana plant will this cause a problem in fruiting?

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Steven,

I don't think banana need cross pollination. I had one variety in my garden for years and it does fruit. Banana is a heavy feeder and very thirsty so you need:
800 grams of lime, 240 grams of Nitrogen, 600 grams of Potash and 30 gram of phophate divided into 4 times from September to May to speed up the fruiting process.

Another thing is only 1 sucker next to the mother shoule be there, remove the rest of the suckers otherwise all fertilizer will be divided to many plants and the mother plant will slow down in term of fruiting.

I hope this helps.

Good luck.
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Rev says...
Hey Trikus

sounds like we need to get those other plantains out of the banana zones
then they become legitimate

what you grow outside designated zones is your own business
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Steven says...
Hi how are you, thanks for your advice. ill plant them in the ground as soon as the greenhouse is finished ill see how i go with giving them lots of chicken manure and compost as its alot cheaper than lime potash etc if not ill do that

Thanks for your help!
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Rev says...
lime/gypsum/dolomite is like? $14 max per 20-25kg sack
worth every cent

if you pee on your bananas religiously theyll get all the Nitrogen, phosphorus and potash they need!

as a northerner
ill honestly say
that cavendish the is WORST banana of the 5 or 6 i can legally grow/buy
ill only buy it if i have to

it ships well
thats about it

the banana equivalent of a cardboard tomato

you have so much ahead of you when you get back to real bananas!
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Steven says...
Hey Rev how are you, i know but compost is free :), ill see how they go first and if i need to ill get it them.

Haha i bought it because it though it was a good variety!!! which varieties would you suggest?


Thanks for your help

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Rev says...
search for 'cool bananas' range
many new sp available

sweeter, tastier, diff colour and textures

i think with bananas that variety is good!
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Rev says...
lady finger is better than cav

monkey banana is better again
i like goldfinger, some dont

java blue is good
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Steven says...
Hey Rev

Yeah thats the type of bought, cool bananas ill check out what else they have available.

Ive tried lady finger before, i know alot of people like them but personally i dont really see what the fuss is over them. maybe ill try out the other varieties.

Thanks alot

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John I says...
Hi Steven,

You may also wan't to try Backyard bananas if you can't find a cool bananas variety you like. I got my blue java through backyard bananas, they are a bit more expensive (given delivery costs) but they were good to deal with.

With lady finger (and ducasse) they really need to be fully or even over ripe for best taste otherwise they can be a bit starchy.

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Rev says...
Most bananas are eaten under ripe IMO

Cool bananas = Backyard bananas
same diff
i dont know if they are related businesses but the sell the same cultivars, except CB has red dacca
which only commercial growers are allowed to have up here

whatever banana you have - microclimate for extra heat and summer humidity and irrigation would help id think
Good thing is that bananas thrive on greywater

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Rev says...
when i say "all bananas eaten under ripe'
i mean i dont think this is a good thing...
be prepared to taste and smell banana that is sweet and soft, and doesnt pull apart like a bread roll

Ive said before ive never seen fruit fly in bananas
unfortunately now i have
but im sure it wasnt their first preference, some lazy bugger probably had an infested guava nearby

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John I says...
Hi Rev,

Yeah your right cool bananas are pretty much the same as backyard bananas except for one or two cultivars (red dacca, blue java, bluggoe).

The difference is that humphris is a wholesale nursery while backyard sells to both retail nurseries and direct to public (via mail order). Not all nurseries stock all the cool bananas varieties (I couldn't find a red dacca anywhere in the western melbourne suburbs earlier this year). Also the labels on the pots can often get lost or mixed up. The red dacca that I thought I bought a couple years back turned out to be a cavendish (I suspect... it hasn't fruited yet). At least with direct from wholesaler you'd expect to get what you payed for.

http://www.humphrisnursery.com.au/coolbanana/info/coolbananas.html

http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/order.html
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Rev says...
maybe people need to pool resources, use an existing ABN and buy a wholesale order?

a couple of trays usually does it

Thanks for the updates!
I recently heard a rumour that a large number of banana cultivars have been imported officially and from these about 15 show promise as new cultivars for the Aussie market.
I assume its all commercially driven though, so we'll only get the scraps or what 'leaks'
but at least for the tastebuds its good news!
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speedy says...
New introductions ...
sounds good, I'd be interested to see what they are.

Of the Backyard bananas, I want to get Dwarf Ducasse (Kluay Nam-Wa).
It seems to be the most popular dessert banana in Thailand.
Most recipe I've seen with banana call for Kluay Nam-Wa
...Khao Tom Mat , Kluay buat chee
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Rev says...
ill happily grab a dwarf ducasse for you speedy
the local nursery usually has them
i think via BYB
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Rev says...
Hey BJ
ive found my Platanos
Local central american gardener

as far as im concerned its bluggoe. legal. end of story :D
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trikus says...
Just saw many different types of bananas at a large farm south of Ingham . Many of the latest hybrids and some old classics .
2 different tiny fruited types . Pisang Mas or Sucrier is short plant with small bunches of tiny fruits . Another is much larger with bigger bunches but still tiny fruits , it is Pisang Kering , fruit is a bit more tangy tasting .
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Kat says...
I want to grow Bananas in Melbourne and I'd love to some advice - especially from John (I'm also in the West).

We are going to renovate next year and we're drawing our plans with growing bananas in mind. We will have a north facing masonry wall in a fairly sheltered area (2m x 6m) against which we plan to grow our bananas.

Do you think this will be enough to get them fruiting? We are toying with the idea of building an attached greenhouse, but not sure if it is necessary and worried about the cost.

Also interested to hear which varieties are best; how many we could fit in that space and where to purchase from

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John I. says...
Hi Kat,

This will be the third summer that my Bananas will be in the ground, and no sign of fruit yet.

The 4 main issues I have had are sunburn, clay soil, frost and wind damage. Sunburnt leaves are only an issue when temps reach high 30's. Frost is one of my main issues because I don't have a sheltered spot, or a masonry wall to plant against. Even covering the plant with frost cloth didn't help (as you can see from the picture above my profile). Shredded leaves (from wind damage) also tend to increase the damage from frost. With all the leaves effectively burnt from frost and wind in Aug/Sep, the plants tend to get off to a slow start in late spring. I've tried to prompt a little early growth by watering once a week with warm water in October.

This year I removed my Ducasse banana as it was not doing well. I didn't prepare the soil properly before planting and I think this was the main problem (with my other plants I had added organic garden mix and lots of manure). Over winter I dug in a lot of sheep and horse manure (from the farms in our area) and also added chicken manure before planting my Blue Java banana plant. ...
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John I. says...
... The area that you have described for planting your bananas sounds ideal (as opposed to where mine are planted). You may still get some frost damage but I think covering with cloth will help as the wall will provide some heat.

Don't plant the bananas to close together as they will develop pups and start to fill the area. I think a minimum of about 1 to 1.5 meters would be about right.

According to Jason the Ducasse banana is the most cold tolerant that he has had. As I said I removed mine but this was due to poor soil preparation. I did some research on US websites that indicated that Blue Java would do well in a cool climate so I planted one in October.

The Cool Bananas range of plants are usually available from Dec in Bunnings, Mitre 10, and other nurseries. You can also order banana plants online from Backyard Bananas. Have a look at the links I posted mid July for what's available. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Eddie says...
Hi pic 1 is the Banana tree i had before winter i did cover it well to protect it from the cold and frost.
Pic 3 is what it looks like 2day after winter did like John did and watered it with luke warm water hoping to flower this year.
The bananas i have are dwarf cavendish and have been doing good i live in the south east suburbs of melbourne.
Pic 2 is the super dwarf cavendish i have been over a year i have had and is producing pups but not sure weather it will fruit or not.
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Jason says...
I tried Dwarf Cavandish once but I could never get it to grow enough to flower, Dwarf Ducasse is infinitely faster growing for cool climates. But the full size Ducasse continues to be more hardy than the Dwarf over winter (it gets damaged much less by temps near 0c than the Dwarf).

Still the Dwarf is my pick for fastest growing and earliest fruiting, I expect mine to throw a flower sometime over Summer hopefully after it has a few new healthy leaves. When you get a wide and short leaf that's the one the flower follows up, it's very obvious and easy to tell the flower is on the way once you see that leaf. The stem bulges as the flower comes up too. Currently the Dwarf is opening it's second new leaf for the Spring, it will speed up quite a bit from now on. It's about 5-6 feet tall and just starting it's third Year (I started from a tiny 10cm tall spindly tissue culture).

I've had Lady Finger fruit before but not very well so I concentrate mostly on the Ducasse's now
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Kat says...
Thanks heaps John, Eddie and Jason. Our reno won't be finished for another year, so have some time up my sleeve for research, but wanted to know now whether we should continue with the greenhouse idea as we have to get plans into Council. I think we'll start without, but plan with the possibility of adding a greenhouse further down the track.

Cheers, Kat
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John I. says...
Hi Jason, silly question but does the banana plant continue to produce leaves after the flower has emerged? It seems to me that if it flowers in summer and the fruit doesn't ripen for several months, then with winter leaf damage my plants wont have any good leaves to help produce large edible fruit?
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trikus says...
The bunch is a terminal infloresence , so no more leaves are grown . Usually enough leaves are left to shade the bunch , any pups/suckers would assist in photosynthesis . Bunches can ripen in weeks not months during warmer times .
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John I. says...
Thanks trikus. Sounds like it may be an issue for me down here in Melbourne. I'll have to figure out a (cost effective) way to protect the leaves from wind damage.
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Eddie says...
Hi John do u have any recent pictures of your bananas
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John I. says...
Hi Eddie, I took these pictures this morning. You can see the wind damage on my largest plant (lady finger). The small plant by itself is my Blue Java. I had it sitting in a pot over winter and planted it in October.
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Eddie says...
Hi John i wanted to see if i could give u some advise how to cover but seems hard due to its height need alot of framework to enclose it with frost cloth at least if u try and keep the sucker in good shape as mentioned b4 it if will give it some nutrients good luck
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John I. says...
Thanks Eddie, I'm thinking maybe making a few sheaths from frost cloth, to slide over a few leaves. I'd only do this after/if the flag leaf emerges. I'll be disappointed if this doesn't happen over summer.
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trikus says...
My 2 little banana patches .
one in the distance with trees and gingers is close to the house , and I am standing close to the other one while taking the pic .
just had several stems fall down with all the rain and lack of props , most should ripen , but was to be expected as I have left to many sucker on . Have been controlling them better now .
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Great looking plantation there trikus - what varieties do you grow? I had ordered a Blue Java, Dwarf Ducasse and Goldfinger last year from Blue Sky and they are powering away after arriving as tissue cultured plants, phenomenal growth rates,
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I have Blue Java , Bluggoe , Ducasse , Mona Lisa , and Pisang Ceylon .
Mona Lisa and Pisang Ceylon are very different looking but very similar tasting .
Mona Lisa is a FHAI cross and is similar to Goldfinger ,fruits are large and not browning when cut and a bit of a tang .
P ceylon are more ladyfinger shape , enormous bunches and way to cramped , I had a hell of a time cutting hands off , and ended up snapping them off . Would be best to cut off every second hand when just forming .It has massive hands and lots of them .

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Eddie says...
Any pictures trikus and phil
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John I. says...
Hi Marg (from Camberwell), Last time you posted (in April) your lady Finger banana had just produced a flower. I would love to hear how it got on. Did you get much fruit?
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MiLK_MaN says...
Hi,

I'm growing some bananas in the north suburbs of Melbourne. I'm trying them in pots, and given the heat and humidity we've had in the last few weeks they are starting to grow pretty quickly.

I've got a Blue Java and Dwarf Ducasse. First time I've ever grown bananas, so will see how I go.

I water them daily at the moment, the excess water just drains out of the pot so I'm not real concerned about over watering. I feed with compost tea every couple of weeks, and with bokashi juice when it's available.

My house faces about 10 degree north, and I have a masonry wall I will put the bananas right next to when they are big enough, so I should be ok with overwintering these.
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Marg says...
Hi John

indeed we do have banana

and they survived even without a bag over the crazy winter and spring we have had here.

there are about 50 individual banans

will a bag help them size up and ripen?

they get lots of water even without the rain and we are feeding them up..
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John I. says...
Hi Marg,

They look good. I guess all the cold weather has slowed them down a bit but it looks like you should have plenty of ripe bananas before the end of summer (if not sooner). I'm glad to hear they survived winter.

I'm not sure if bagging them will help with ripening (I thought bags were used to protect the bananas from birds, fruit bats and sunburn). Couldn't hurt to try though.

I'm very exited at the moment because my first hand of 9 bananas on my lady finger has just appeared this afternoon.
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Brad says...
Good thread this. Thanks for all the info. Questions questions. I'm considering bananas by our small pool. They'll like the humidity, but need wind and summer sun protection. 

There's currently a 6m ficus (with thousands of tiny fruit driving me crazy), some small palms and understory non fruiting plants in the bed. The main part is roughly 5m long (N-S) and 1.8m deep with extra narrower bits on each end. I'm not sure this is big/sheltered enough to succeed. How many bananas would you fit? How would you plant them out?

The garden bed has a fence protecting it from the beasterly  Behind that is our much lower driveway then a row of high eucalypts. So it's the best summer wind sheltered spot I've got. The west side is the pool then house so there is afternoon sun exposure. The bed has reticulation. 

The bananas I've already got are currently growing up happily in pots on the other western side of the pool which gets morning sun; before shade from the house. the biggest plant is still only 1m. They were dad in law plants - I presume cavendish. I'm happy to try other or mix varieties. What do you reckon?
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Mrs V says...
Hi..i have a 17mths old banana tree and just about 90cm tall. I noticed that there's about 3 little banana like growth around it. Is that what you called banana suckers? what should i do? should i dug it out or just let it grow with my banana tree?
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John I. says...
Hi Mrs V. Yes the little plants that are appearing are suckers. If you are growing the banana plants in the hope of getting bananas from them then you should remove the suckers leaving just one (two in the sub tropics) to replace the mother plant when it has finished producing fruit. If you are only growing the plant as an ornamental then you can leave the suckers if you want.

To remove the suckers cut them down to ground level, and put a little bit of kerosine on it (5ml). Careful not to put too much or you can damage the mother plant.

Do you know what variety of banana you have? 90cm for a 17 month old plant sounds a little small.
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Red Banana.
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Meg says...
John, I picked up Babaco from Otway Herbs for around $6. A trip to Apollo Bay coming up?
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Grali says...
Hi all,

I just put in my first bananas, a dwarf caverdish and a red dacca. I'm in bayside Melb so relatively frost free (10min walk from the beach) so I hope all will go smoothly. They're in the backyard with is paved so hopefully it will act a bit like a heat sink and keep them going.
Reading this has now inspired me to go out and see if my local Bunnings has a dwarf ducasse to add to the collection. Keep up the good work ppl.
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Violet_Cactus says...
Grali, where did you buy your Red Dacca from if I may ask? I'm in Bayside too.
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Shell says...
Great thread!

Check out Bunnings now for the Red Dacca, I recently added one to my collection.

I have had a Cavendish growing in a pot for a couple of years - took it out for some tlc and to remove a sucker on the weekend. Have learnt a lot since reading this thread and going to give it a whole lot more lovin'!
I really just want mine to flower since visiting the Whitsundays and watching one flower outside my hotel room. Fruit would be a bonus
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Jason says...
Bit of a suspiciously wide leaf coming out of my Dwarf ducasse at the moment. Hopefully it's about to chuck a flower although I doubt it will ripen before Winter at the stage but it's got 5 reasonable but torn leaves on it so maybe It'll be able to ripen some for me
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snottiegobble says...
Good luck with it Jason. Would some form of plastic protection be advisable?
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Jason says...
Well If I had more shelter the leaves would be in better condition, I've recently planted 2 dwarf ducasse's in front of the house. It feels like I'm cheating though because they are growing much faster and without any tears in the leaves. Certainly gives you an idea how easy it would be to grow bananas in a sheltered backyard in the city
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snottiegobble says...
Absolutely, I have never contemplated bananas before having only seen one tree in Vic near Geelong ( Dinosaur Hotel). If you can grow them & get them to produce fruit in Portland it should give everyone down south confidence to have a go.
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John I. says...
Snottie, I did a lot of research before planting my bananas here in Melbourne, but the thing that convinced me that it was possible was reading Jason's posts. Like you said if you can get them to fruit in Portland, Melbourne shouldn't be too hard.
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Gordo says...
Hi fellow fruit-lovers, check out www.backyardbananas.com.au/ for all advice, supply, recipes, etc for bananas. They have been hit by cyclone, but are back up and running. Always great service. Lovely to deal with.
I was so happy to find PLATANOS or plantains (cooking bananas).
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Grali says...
Violet Cactus - I just got them from Bunnings. They still have a few left when I went on the weekend... although a lot of the left over bananas are missing variety tags. The red dacca has reddish/burgandy patches down the centre of the leaves so it's pretty recognisable. It might be a bit late though to get them established before it gets cold... Bunnings have reduced them from 30$ to 20$ about a month ago.
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Grali says...
Do other people note the their banana seems to wilt on hot days? I try to chuck a bucket of water on mine daily so I don't know if I'm not watering it enough or whether them usually wilt in full sun on a hot day.
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trikus says...
Bananas need lots of water ... lots and lots , just like here in the wettest place in Australia . 25mm a week avg , more is better .. we have been getting more than that every day for the last few weeks .
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Eddie says...
Hey Grali iam in Melbourne too and as said need alot of water but if you mean wilting as in the leaves flap back but still erect in a way thats just the plant not needing any more sun so it closes back its (photosynthesis) the plant controls how much sun it needs hope thats helps and iam 99% sure iam right with that but happy if i get corrected. Maybe a pic will help us help u when it occurs
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Peter says...
I have Ducasse and Red Dacca from cool bananas Humphres and My Ducasse have prodused 3 bunches now only put 1 plant in 2 years ago. Ducasse is a small fruit variety. They say to pick when ridges on fruit go and the flower ends on the fruit blacken and crumble. At this stage the fruit will still be green, pick it any how they will ripen off the tree. you can take a hand at a time if wanted. Pics taken today 19/03/11

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snottiegobble says...
Ok now I am serious about growing bananas ( seen their price lately?)
My kavendish now has 2 pups, but I know it will soon run out of the pig manure,
b&b,& potting mix that I incorporated into the hole before planting into my WA soily sand. What I would like to know is how quick do the roots spread out? I wish to dig holes round the plant & bury more manure, compost etc. The tree has now been in the ground 5 weeks+.
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Brendan says...
Hi SG,
I just put the manure on the ground around the banana trees, like a mulch. They seem to love it. I always add fertilizer (and some dolomite) too:-)
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Don't forget to choose your pups carefully to use for propagating more plants. Watershoots are pretty much useless so you need to wait for your banana tree to produce a spear shaped sucker which will go on to bear fruit.
http://www.hardytropicals.org/index.php/blog/entry/splitting_banana_pups
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Thanks Brendan & Phil for your advice & 'splitting pups' site.
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John Mc says...
Blue Java banana - any one know where I might be able to buy one?

The only source I can find is Backyard Bananas in Nth Qld. The only problem with them is that they will only send 50mm culture tubes @$10ea. That's fine, I'm about to place an order for 4 plants with postage of $10.
I thought I'd do a little ask around before I went ahead with my order.

It's going to be tricky nursing 2 month old tissue culture plants over winter. It's a good thing they send detailed instructions on how to raise them.
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Jantina says...
I bought 3 bananas from Bluesky bananas John, a dwarf Ducasse, Goldfinger and a Blue Java and they have all grown like rockets in my unheated glasshouse.
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Thanks for the assurance on the tissue culture plants. Phil didn't have any trouble with his either. A ring around all the local nurseries had a negative result as expected. I did come across a goldfinger which was surprising, it'll be picked up tomorrow.
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trikus says...
If you have the space and organic matter , try a few 'banana circles' a 'permaculture' design that should really help in marginal areas . My first clump is being made into one now , as I am dumping tons of cyclone debris in the centre of the stand .
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Jantina says...
Good idea trikus, how's it all going with the cleanup?
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Brad says...
whats the smallest size patch you think worthwile?
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Lachlann says...
Brad even a very small patch of a few square metres is enjoyable. They cope with a little bit of crowding and shade as long as you pre-emptively thin the suckers very well as time goes by so that you don't have a lot of crowded big stems.. Circles can also be made from a start with just one plant; suckers spreading outwards like a mushroom circle, only slower, and removing any growth in the centre as well as thinning out the peripheral suckers.
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Gordo says...
Hi, I've just received my Blugoe banana from post-cyclone flooded Blue Sky nursery www.backyardbananas.com.au. Will try and get a photo to post on forum. It might be tissue cultured but it is a good 500mm in size. Will let you know how I get on.
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Grali says...
Thanks Eddie and Trikus. If we have another hot day (its Melb so who knows) I'll try to get a pic. I'm not sure if what it is as it seems to happen even after a good soaking.

Hey with the current price of bananas backyard growing in places like Melb might even become mainstream.
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Mish says...
How did I guess that the Banana forum would be popular given the current prices? ;)

Anyway, moving on to my question! I purchased a 'Cool Bananas' dwarf Cavendish Banana plant from Bunnings a few months ago. It has been sitting in a pot on my patio until a few days ago, when I transplanted it to a sunny and wind-sheltered spot in the garden, surrounded by a whole heap of excellent quality compost and topped with some dry leaves as a mulch of sorts.

Given that they are thirsty little critters it has been well watered in with top-ups each day, to the point where the soil is moist but no water is pooling, yet the poor 'nana seems to have suffered some transplant shock! The leaves have all drooped, they're green and the top (central) leaf is slowly unfurling still (it was tightly curled up when I planted it)... should I be concerned?

Attached is a pic of the tree from today.

Any ideas, tips, general advice? I may be a garden novice but I'd really, really like to keep this plant alive!
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snottiegobble says...
I dont know much about bananas yet, but I do know that a little Seasol in water helps plants through the trauma of being moved. it is best though to soak the pot first using seasol before transplanting, & then water the plant in with it also.
My kavendish has never looked back using this method yet its been damned hot here ever since!
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M Nash says...
My Cavendish have sprouted and are a foot high, In only a few months from planting the corms.
A question;
when do you cut the main tree and allow the dominant pup to become the next main tree?
Or in other words, how many flowers can I expect on the main tree before its had its day?
Can the main tree keep going year after year if the pups are removed?
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Steven says...
From my understanding nash. what you need to do is allow one pup to grow to a reasonable size as the main plant. then only allow one other pup to develop as the daughter plant. Genetically they are identical as they come from the same plant so they all should grow as well as long as one isnt sick in some way.

One plant will only produce one bunch of bananas then die back. once this is done cut the main plant down and chop it up as mulch for the daughter plant to now become the main plant. And obviously repeat the process as long as you can.

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Mish says...
Just an update - today has seen an improvement in my plant, the leaves are slowly rising once again. I must've done something right. Phew!
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Animal Lover says...
I am growing my 1st 3 banana believe all my are dwarf cavadish. I found that they will often leaves appear to die, however my thery is the plant is trying to conserve energy to produce another leave and each time they drooped there lower leaves a new leaf has emerged. Good to know that other melbournians have had some success with fruiting! I'm in narre warren area.
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Animal lover, I am also growing my first banana & I just know that yours shouldnt be like that. They appear to be in pots which I am sure is not adequate for such a plant. There are some real experts in this forum who will be sure to help you! Good luck!
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Nick says...
I have a dwarf cavendish too in a pot and its already got 6 or so leaves since I bought while also retaining all its original leaves, except the lowest one.
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Ken says...
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Can anyone identify the variety of banana shown in the attached photo? This banana is grown in Balwyn, Melbourne and in early March my banana started flowering. Also I note it may take up to six months to ripen dependent upon variety - will the banana ripen over the Melbourne winter?

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Jason says...
It wont ripen over Winter but if the leaves stay undamaged until Spring it will ripen then. Can't say what variety it is
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Animal Lover1 says...
Dwarf Cavadish 2.5metres
Dwarf Red Dacca 2metres
Duccasse 3-4metres!
Goldfinger 3-4metres
Lady finger 3metres
'Pisang Ceylan' 2-3metres

This is only a guess-but I think your could be the Duccasse plant because it look like it pretty tall already, I have 3 of the dwarf Cavadish at the moment, in pots doing extremely well!


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Gary says...
Hi

Have first flower on Goldfinger. Plant been in just over 2 years growing at Heathmere, Portland Vic. In photo on right side of Goldfinger is a Dwarf red Dacca same age. Just wondering if it's necessary to remove the stems? If u have the room to leave them on, I'v left mine on, would u get more bunches? And if the flower get through winter do i need to put bag over it? And is it true bananas don't need pollinating to get fruit?

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Nick d says...
Hey can anyone recommend a fertilizer that won't harm dwarf cavendish
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Brendan says...
Hi Nick,
I use Super Growth from Katek, plus any manure I can get.
Even Rooster Booster from bunnings works well, just add some extra sulphate of potash.
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Drady1990 says...
Hey i have 5 x dwarf cavendish bananas they have been on verandah and under cover from frost but last night we had -3 degree's and leaves have turned black i have no put them in my shed with a 400w hps grow light can anyone give any ideas or solutions as the look like they will die and i cant let them thankyou for your help
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John I. says...
Hi Drady1990,
As long as the stems are ok then they will be fine. They will start to push new leaves as soon as they get some warm weather.
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Hey Nick, I doubt any fertiliser would harm a cavendish, considering how much of a heavy feeder bananas are. I'd still stick to organic stuff though, so compost, manure, dynamic lifter (which I use) etc.
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Drady1990 says...
thanks everbody i appreciate it.
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Drady1990 says...
Hey can anyone help out with the best pots to grow bananas in. Thanks
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Drady1990 says...
Hey can anyone help out with the best pots to grow bananas in. Thanks
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Jason says...
Drady a rubbish bin with lots of holes in it works good for most plants that you want to fruit in a pot
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Lissa says...
Hi all.
Does anyone think they can help me to identify my banana variety from the pics? Taken at various times from the beginning of the flower head, to fruit just forming to almost current.

It's a dwarf but a friend growing the Dwarf Ducasse (which I have a small plant of from Blue Sky)says it's not this.

Nor is it blue enough to be a Blue Java.

The person who gave me the plant obtained it from someone else and doesn't know the variety.

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Brendan says...
I'm thinking Lady Finger? (looking at the tip).
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Drady1990 says...
These are my bananas hit by the cold weather of bathurst as you can one banana still has nice green leaves but the rest look very sad
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Drady1990 says...
any help to get bananas back to health would be greatly appreciated
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Jason says...
Drady, those bananas are fine, just a mild frost damage. once spring comes around they will grow again. You have to get a banana really cold and frozen under the ground to kill it, especially a large one. If you don't want to have them regrow from down low each year move them into the shed before Winter next time and leave them there until spring. People in New York dig them up and wrap them in newspaper without soil and leave them in the shed like that over Winter, then plant them again in Spring. But for you leaving them in the pot probably without any watering or very little over Winter will be fine
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Drady1990 says...
What so just leave the burnt leaves on and just reduce watering over winter
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John I. says...
Drady1990,
Here's a picture of my dwarf red dacca after its first winter in the ground, and about a year later. As long as the corm is healthy (the part of the plant that is under ground), then it will start pushing new leaves out in spring.

You can remove the leaves now if you like or as I didi I left it until the first spring growth and then removed all the damaged leaves.
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Lissa says...
Hi Brendan. Thanks for taking a punt on the type. What do you mean by "looking at the tip"?
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Johan says...
Here is a photo of one of my banana plants I think it is “Sugar”.
The leafs are around 2 m long and the plant stands 4 meters tall.
I use CK88 as fertiliser it’s from Incitec Pivot 15.1 N, 4.4 P,11.5K and
13.6 S. I also add aglime and wood ash when the bunch is forming
I also mulch well so far the plants are at great health.
Love to get some red bananas looks like it is not easy.
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Johan says...
Here is a photo of the bananas in the
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John I. says...
Hi Johan, Your bananas have a lovely yellow color. I hope they taste as good as they look. I have a Lady Finger banana here in Melbourne and I have been slowing picking them, although they are still quite small. I've been ripenning them in a plastic bag with an apple and the skin color of mine is mor of a brownish yellow.
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juanita says...
Hi John!
How's your ladyfinger bananas taste like? are they as good as those from Qld or crapy & tiny fruits?
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John I. says...
Hi Juanita,
The bananas that I picked early were nice. They weren't as sweet as QLD bananas, but they had good texture and a pleasant tang (I'd rate them a 6 out of 10). The final hand ripened on the plant at the start of August, and they weren't so good. I don't know if it was because of frost damage but the top of the banana was edible but the bottom half was woody.
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snottiegobble says...
I have protected my young cavendish all winter with good results as it is producing good strong leaves now, but so are the 2 pups which are now about 60cms tall & are situated north & south of the mother. The question I have is : which one should I transplant, & when, with the other being left to eventually take over??
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snottiegobble says...
Cmon guys, Im going bananas waiting to find out! (00)
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grub says...
gidday snottie now spring is the best time to plant .after planting out dont water for 3 weeks unless the soil is dry.i was told that when the main plant is three quaters grown then select one of the suckers as a replacement plant for after harvest ..i dont know about down here i have 3 bannas in they are about a 1200 high and about 15 mths old athey survived this winter with out any protection .i did protect my paw paw though
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grub says...
snottie forgot to ask you if ya pups were suskers or flag suckers.flag suckers have a narrow base and not suitable for transplanting
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snottiegobble says...
grub, both pups are just like mummy, good strong thick stems & still seem to be connected to her below the surface.
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Lissa says...
I attended a garden workshop on banana growing a year or so back. It was terrific - informative and great presenter - and I went home and removed young plantlets (suckers? pups?) as advised.

But....each time I removed them the plant replaced them. Seems it really wanted two suckers on the go, so I eventually let it have what it wanted.

The main plant is now in fruit and the two ladies in waiting just sitting there nicely ready to do their thing when needed.
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snottiegobble says...
Thanks Lissa, I will do the same!
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MiLK_MaN says...
I have three banana plants at home, two I left outside in winter to fend by themselves, the third I put under a grow light in my garage.

All 3 are back into their growing phase with the warmer weather in Melbourne. They are all in pots, will be interesting to see them fruiting and the reaction from neighbours when they walk past!

Can anyone advise when is the best time to bag the bunch? Do you wait until they are full sized but yet to ripen, or do you bag them as soon as you see them?
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juanita says...
I haven't seen potted bananas give fruits yet..Planted in the ground, yes definitely will give fruits.
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John Mc says...
I'm going to try a little experiment when I get my Blue Java tissue culture plants. Two are going in the ground and one is going into a recycling hydroponic pot system, something in the order of 35 to 45 litres. Bananas are very hungry and thirsty plants and I can't think of a better way to supply both as much nutrients and water as and when the plant needs it. I tried a crude hydro pot last year on some dwarf banana plants and they grew extremely well even though I had to manually water them, which wasn't enough in the end because of their growth rate. When they get to a certain size they have to be watered several times a day to keep the vigour up and I just wasn't home enough to give them what they wanted. Next time the watering system will be recirculating and automatic.
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BananaShootsNeeded says...
hey everyone,
do you know where i can get banana shoots from? i saw the forum and saw that some of you plant banana trees at home. i'm happy to buy from you if you have these as i need these urgently for medical reasons. hoping someone can help me. Thanks..
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Steven says...
hey how are you. most nurseries sell bananas so you should be able to get the pretty easily. bunnings usually has them too. if they dont have them now then its probably because they only have them in summer.


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Cate says...
Hiya, I know Bulleen Art and Garden were getting some in this month so you could try there.
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Lissa says...
Buying banana plants in Qld means one source only at the moment - Blue Sky Nursery referred by DPI.

Things must be a little easier down south with Bunnings and nurseries selling suckers.
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Blue Java tissue culture banana plants arrived today, yay. One of them had all it's leaves snapped off but I hedged by bets by buying three with the intention of getting at least one to maturity. One down, two to go and they've only just left their tc tubes.
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juanita says...
Hi John...Just wondering if your dwarf red dacca has given you fruits yet?
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John I. says...
Hi Juanita. The flower emerged last month and it has about 40 bananas on it. The bananas are green, and look like cavandish.
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coastie says...
Good morning, I have been reading and watching this forum for some time and now I think I can be of some help in some subjects.
I have been growing the dwarf cav.banana, red and gold for some time now.This is a photo of last years crop of red, they were absolutely yummmie,we cover the fruit as soon as the fruit loose the square look, and we cut off the flower before it opens.
We have shade cloth bags which we made and it is to protect them from bats.
We bought the plants[1 gold 1 red]in pots, from KMart in Melbourne about 4yrs ago and we have had fruit almost every year since, red and gold.
We have decided this year we would not cut the whole bunch down when we think they are nearly ripe,we will on pick them in manageable hands and when we have eaten those which might be 15mins or 15days, we will pick another hand.
This will be better than having the whole 300 banans ripening at the same time.
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John I. says...
Hi Coastie, when do the red dacca bananas turn red (or de they emerge from the flower that color)?
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coastie says...
Hi John, they all grow green colour and when they start to change colour that is when they have stopped growing, that is when you think about picking them. There is no special time to pick them,just when you think it is time,remember the shop ones are all picked green and they never fail to ripen.
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Hi John, they all grow green colour and when they start to change colour that is when they have stopped growing, that is when you think about picking them. There is no special time to pick them,just when you think it is time,remember the shop ones are all picked green and they never fail to ripen.
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John I. says...
Thanks coast... and welcome.
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Lissa says...
Are you allowed to grow Cavendish in other states? (I'm in Qld).
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HappyEarth says...
You can in Wollongong, NSW. You can buy them at Bunnings.

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MiLK_MaN says...
I am dead set sure that one of my bananas has just put out a flag leaf. As each new leaf arrives, it generally pokes out quite far and then unrolls, but this last leaf has is real small and has unrolled very early.

The labels I had on the bananas rubbed off, so I'm not sure if this is the Blue Java or the Dwarf Ducasse.

This is my first time growing bananas, so no idea what to expect.
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trikus says...
You will soon find out what you have as Blue Java are very distinctivly coloured .. you will easily ripen them before winter so sit back and wait . My bunch is getting fat , but the stand looks disgusting as it is infested with stem borers , Blue Java is very prone to them .. got the toxic chemical I need to spread to kill them , must do it asap.
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BJ says...
Your Blue Java should be at least double the size of your Dwarf Ducasse.
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MiLK_MaN says...
Here are the two banana plants, which do you think is which?

Both in pots, neither was covered during winter at all.
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nswbananas says...
Hi everyone that is discussing growing bananas I have started a web site deticated to growing bananas with its own forum the web site is http://forums.nswbananas.com.au/
Please all feel free to come and join the site.

also I would be interested to know of anywhere to obtain Blue Java Plants other than tissue cultures Thank You.
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John Mc says...
Good luck with it mate, there's not a lot of content there atm, but I'm sure it will grow as the content grows. At your location you will only find Blue Java if someone else has them privately.
There's nothing wrong with tc. My blue Javas are from tc and are powering on fantastically. The only problem with tc, that I've found, is it takes quite a while from placing the order to actually receiving your tc plants in the mail. If you want them bad enough, at least it is an option sometimes the only option of aquiring them.
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nswbananas says...
Would you be interested in selling Blue Java succers at all?
I Did have Tissue cultre plants that where in a mini hot house that Got blown over twice and the plants did not survive the wind storms we recently had.
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John Mc says...
It will be a while, I only got them 6 weeks ago. They're still less than 200mm high. But sure, I'm thinking it'll be another 12 months before I get enough suckers to give away.
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nswbananas says...
Have you ever tasted blue java bananas if so any suggestions on where I could get som actual blue java bananas to taste?
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John Mc says...
No, I haven't tasted Blue Java fruit yet. But with words describing it like Ice Cream banana, I don't think we'll be too disappointed. Mine are powering along well in the poly house, I'm super charging them to as big a size I can before planting them out. Can't wait to build my large poly tunnel so I can grow stuff like this in it to maturity. Apparently the Blue Java plant is quite tall.

My future poly tunnel height will only be 3.5m in the centre. I might have to revise that ceiling height.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
My blue java is sending out its first flower and the inflorescence it must be growing about a foot each day. Can't wait 'til they ripen, I wonder how long that will take. The plant itself must be eighteen feet tall.
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Jantina says...
I'm jealous Phil! How on earth are you going to reach that banana hand 18 feet up?
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Mike says...
Bananas seem to be having loads of bunches here at the moment.I had a bunch of ducasses and give most away as they all ripened together.John while you're out there are you intersted in the better purple and yellow fleshed sweet potatoes,yellow tumeric,ultra dwarf hog plum seeds,a maprang,various snake beans,jaboticaba or yellow gramichama seeds?I will chase some of the really good white sapotes for Peter in Adelaide tomorrow but hey are almost seedless so it is hard to get lots of seeds.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
@ Jantina - it seems to be coming down to meet me!
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trikus says...
will ripen very fast this time of the year
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Maurice says...
Finally after 3 years I have a flower on my ?Cavendish banana plant. It emerged a week ago then turned towards the ground and changed color ro wine red. Just today it started to unfold slightly revealing some very tiny bananas. I gave it some potash today and watered it in. Should I bag it soon, I know I may need to prop it up if it gets heavy. Does anyone have experience with how long it could take for bananas in this climate. Hoping it hasnt emerged too late in the season. I have a pic but the iPhone won't let me upload, re
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Maurice, Short answer 5 to 6 months from the first hand being revealed (here in Melbourne). I have a similar problem to you, although my lady finger an blue java produced their first hand of fruit just over a month ago, my red dacca has just produced its first hand this week. I will probably pick the ladyfinger and blue java early (late april/may) but I am trying to think about how I can protect my red dacca bunch from frost.
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trikus says...
Bunches will ripen much faster in warmer weather .. feed with blossom booster fert , feed and water heaps .. fruit will be mature in 3 months easy . $20 bet ..
How many bunches have you harvested in Disneyland John ?
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John I. says...
I posted when I was on holiday last year. Not sure why it remembered my location at the time.

By the way trikus, we don't get 3 months of continuos warm weather down here, and our over night temps don't stay above late teens for long, hence it takes about twice as long for bananas to ripen. But that is also dependant on the state of the plant. My banana plants get a lot wind damage. Couple that with a few very hot days and the leaves burn.
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Maurice says...
Thanks John and Trikus for your comments.
I agree protecting from frost is going to be the problem especially if its going to 5-6 months. Maybe 3 months could be the best case scenario especially it we have a late summer. Its a shame it takes so long but I guess it does also have a lot to do with night temperature. The temperature drop over night would definately slow things down. In Melbourne where I am I also get heaps of wind damage. It seems there is rarely 3 or 4 days of calm before its extremely windy again and any new leaves get completely shredded. At what stage is the flower cut and should I use a bag to protect the bananas later on when they emerge properly? I want to maximize my chances of getting some fruit but I am realistic and realise it may not happen. Regardless it's been very interesting and educational experience.
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John I. says...
Maurice, Cut the bell off at about 20-25cm below the last hand of fruit. You can bag the fruit anytime but wait until the flowers on the ends of the banana's dry up first otherwise the bag will get very sticky from the flower nectar.

Also its a good idea to write down the date the first hand of bananas appeared, and the date that the first hand starts to turn yellow. This will give you a good indication of how long it will take for your fruit to ripen each year. I write the date with a permanent marker on each of my plants.
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John I. says...
Oh Yeah, and as Trikus said give it plenty of water (without drowning it) and regularly fertilise with a Blossom Booster fertiliser. Don't use a fertiliser with high nitrogen content, it can burn the fruit.
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Maurice says...
Hi John, thanks for the great advice. Just this morning I noticed that a second hand had emerged overnight. I will try to get some blossom booster, do you know where I can get it from? cheers, Maurice
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John I. says...
Maurice, you should be able to find something at Bunnings. I'm just using Yates Dynamic Lifter (NPK analysis: 3.2 : 2.6 : 1.3) every few days, and then I add potash once a week to boost the K (potassium).
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Maurice says...
Hi John and Trikus,

The banana plant has been enjoying the recent warm weather and 8 hands have now emerged since the first one only a week ago. Most things seem to happen overnight - on one particularly warm night 3 hands came out. I have been feeding it compost from the worm farm, some sheep manure and Potash. Today I found a product at Big W today called bloom booster, its a soluble powder. The NPK is 6.2/14.6/16.8 as well as some other elements. I will start using this from now on, Regards Maurice

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Maurice says...
Here is a pic, hope it works this time, had to reduce quality, Maurice
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snottiegobble says...
Thats a good strong tree Maurice, but why would you change over to synthetics after such a good result with organics?
How old is your banana plant ?
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Maurice says...
Hi Snootie,

Thanks for your comments. You are probably right in that it's not good to abandon the organic fertilisers completely at this stage. The plant still has a good base of previously applied fertilser and the synthetic fertiliser will just ensure that I can concentrate on the relative proportions of the various elements minimising the nitrogen and maximising the Phosphorus and Potassium. I am really just learning as I go and always open to advice and comments. I planted it in August 2009. Cheers Maurice
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snottiegobble says...
I see you have pups so is that the original plant flowering or one of her pups? (just dont fancy waiting 3 years for banana cake) :-)
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Maurice says...
It's the original plant however the pup is not far behind and I'm hoping that a new generation will now flower in succession every year from now on, Maurice
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snottiegobble says...
I have 2 pups close to mum & they are also catching up in height.( I cut off a 3rd one 3 months ago!) I am hoping that if I feed them enough I might get all 3 to flower! Tiny pups at the foot of a pup as well!
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Maurice says...
I have a pup next to the flowering plant that is virtually as tall and has a very similar if not larger diameter at its base even though it is probably about 9 months behind. I did remove a few suckers last year but have left all recent pups, they are fairly small and shouldn't take away too much energy at this stage. Last year, early spring, I removed 6 and replanted them, and 4 survived and are thriving. Maurice
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snottiegobble says...
Great stuff Maurice, soon you`ll have the only banana plantation in Melbourne!
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Maurice says...
Hi all just giving an update on the banana tree. After producing approximately 10 hands, the last 4 hands seem very stunted and flat and they have not gone a healthy green but have stayed yellow. The little fellas on the last hand seem are very limp and are half brown instead of being yellow. I am not sure if it's because the weather has cooled a little or if I have overfed or over watered or if in fact the plant after producing 10 hands is concentrating its energy on the initial hands. Any ideas, thanks John.
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John I. says...
Hi Maurice,
Your stem has finished producing fruit and will now start to produce male flowers instead. This is normal. Let it go for a while and when the bell is 20-30cm from the last hand cut the bell off (but leave the 20-30cm).
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Maurice says...
Hi John, thanks for the info. thats very reassuring to know. It seems there may still be a few more male hands to come then judging by the petals that still haven't opened. Now when you state 20-30cm from the last hand r u referring to the female or male hands ? Maurice
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John I. says...
The last hand of bananas. The male parts will start to dry up and fall off after several days. If you try to break them off they will come away easily.
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John I. says...
Maurice,
Heres a picture of my Red Dacca. You can see it has finished producing bananas and is now producing male flowers that come away easily. The black marks caused by rubbing from a near by branch.
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snottiegobble says...
John, thats exciting stuff! I hope to see a bell appear pretty soon.
When it begins to grow its way up the inside of the stem does it stop the new leaf from forming or just push it to one side?
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Brendan says...
Yeah SG, the bunch will push the leaves aside.

Had 113mm rain in the last 3 days, and a gust of wind yesterday blew over one of my banana trees :-( Would've been a nice bunch too!
Could always eat the 'bell' I suppose, and fry the immature bananas :-)
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Maurice says...
Hi Brendan, that's such a shame that the storm felled your banana tree. I was a bit worried a similar thing would happen last night to my tree as it is already leaning at about 30 degree from vertical and was moving in the wind. I even thought I heard some slight cracking sounds at one stage so I ended up making up a couple of supporting string ties which I hope will do the trick. Thanks John for your recent photo, mine looks fairly similar, Cheers Maurice
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snottiegobble says...
Bugger, thats no good Brendan & it shows how fragile they are when in fruit doesnt it? Maybe what I used as a frame for a plastic tent would help to prevent these things happening? It consists of 5 of the tallest steel star posts you can buy pushed to equal depth around the young tree then black poly pipe to 1 & a half inch diam tied with wire onto top of each post to form a circle & cut off at that point! The bell & weight of fruiting stem should rest on that loop eventually & stop the tree from falling or am I talking BS??
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Mike says...
When my bananas fall I prop them up with a heavy forked stick if they need more development time.This works as ling as there a a few roots in the ground and they are not baking in full sun.On Saturday the north side of town has near cyclonic weather bowling over paw paws and bananas andfor once I missed out and there was hardly a zephyr at my place.
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Brendan says...
Hi All,
It won't regrow as it has no roots attached to the soil :-(
I'm not that worried as I have about 4 more bunches on :-)
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John I. says...
Bredan, it might make an interesting experiment to try?
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Mike says...
It would be interesting to see if the bananas keep developing when there are no roots in the ground.Mine didn't regrow the rest of the roots when I propped plants with decent bunches on but I still had bunches that enlarged and could be harvested a few weeks later.
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epiphany says...
Just popping my head into the thread & wanted to comment on a question posted earlier on...I grow my bananas in large pots (here in Melbourne) & they seem to be doing fine. Still too soon to know if they'll fruit but given how much they've grown & thrived, I'm hoping they'll flower this year. The reason they're in pots is so I can move them around in winter to avoid the frost. It seems to be working so far...
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Sandi says...
Hi Mike, Do you know where I can get some Blue Java banana planting material? I hear they are good in cooler conditions. Thanks.
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Sandi says...
Hi Tricus, Trying to source some Blue Java banana suckers, would you know of any? Thanks.
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John Mc says...
I may be able to help you there, when I was looking, the only place I could find was Blue Sky Backyard Bananas:
http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/index.html

I just visited the site and I see the regular Blue Javas are temporarily unavailable. Saying that, if you are outside Qld, they may take your order and send you tissue culture plants when ready in approx 6 to 8 weeks. I suggest ordering at least 3 plants ($10 each plus del)to ensure success. I have two very healthy Blue Java's in the ground now around 600mm tall.
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Hey John a very kind fellow at work gave me his banana bar a couple of weeks ago - I now have the right tool for desuckering and propagating them. It's easy once an expert shows you how!
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Do you have a pic of it Phil?
I have a steel blade approx 50mm wide and about 600mm long, I'd like it to be longer but beggars can't be choosers.
I can get it underneath the mother plant with only a 50mm disturbance of roots. A spade is 150-200mm wide. If you get the angle right you'll end up with a complete corm.
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Sandi says...
Thanks John, I'm actally inland of Innisfail, so not too far from Bluesky backyard bananas. I have tasted Blue java a long time ago, and recall that they were good to eat. I have quite a few varieties of bananas, including sugars (lots), Red Dacca (they are really tall trees), Mons Marie (the original cavendish, and tall too), dwarf Cavendish (the commercial one), plantain, ladyfingers, Ducasse, a couple of pisang (rajah, ceylan), and I would love Blue Java. All that and more on 1/4 acre -whew! (no lawn of course).
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
It has a rounded but sharp curved blade, good for twisting around an emerging pup, rotating as you thrust.
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John Mc says...
Phil, It's not too dissimillar to the one I have, only mine is flat on the business end. I don't know what it was originally made for but it makes an excellent banana sucker remover.

Sandi, might be able to do a swap in the not too distant future. Is there any difference between the Commecial Dwarf Cav you have and the so called "ordinary dwarf cav" I have?
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Sandi says...
Probably not, John.
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trikus says...
That sucker removal tool is for destroying suckers, not harvesting them . a quick twist will cut out eye . a massive very strong pointed shovel is used for harvesting suckers , seen one with added footrest to really help force into ground .

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John Mc says...
I use mine to sever the sucker and then use a plumbers shovel from the other side to gently persuade the sucker out of the ground.
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Sergio says...
Yes I have a lovely little crop of healthy banana pups using the same bar as Phil. With a bit of practice it works well.
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peter says...
i have a sucker on a lady finger.
at what size should they be separated
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Brendan says...
Hi peter, I separate mine when they're about 500 to 600mm high. Some peolple cut the leaves off when planting (for some reason), I don't.

A good de-suckering tool: The Neverbend Draining Spade. http://www.greenharvest.com.au/tools/hand_tools_prod.html

Bit expensive tho.
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Hi John I, why is it recommended to cut the bell 25-30 cm after the last hand, in fact why cut the bell off at all? Also is it necessary to cover the bananas with a bag during ripening particularly in Melbourne. I presume it would be to protect them from animals such as bats and possums. Is there a recommended type of bag or something not specifically for this purpose but readily available that could be used ? Maurice
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Sandi says...
On tools, I made a banana leaf trimmer from a blade set into a bamboo pole (sugar bananas and red daccas grow pretty tall). As you can see in the pic, I cut a nick on the side opposite to the blade to act as a small hook to pull down the cut leaves, and it's very handy, too.
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oops, pic was too big to load. Will have to try again.
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peter says...
thanks for that brendan, ill wait till
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yea that tool certainly is expensive.
nice of them to give the size and
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trikus says...
The tool used here for sucker removal is made from very thick plate 5mm maybe more [quarter inch ?] top is approx 20 cms and its 60 cms long with rounded tip ,,it tapers down so triangular ..has a welded very strong handle .. heard they cost $100 to get made !
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john says...

I'm obviously missing something;why cannot the sucker be exposed by digging down and then cut with a knife?
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Nick says...
I should get around to separating my banana suckers soon but I have a few questions first-
Whats the best tools to use (I saw a few videos on youtube where the guy uses a sharp knife), maybe a grafting knife or a sharp spade?
Should I separate them when its cloudy and cooler weather?
And should I remove the leaves after the suckers are separated and leave the wounds to dry? :)
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John Mc says...
A long strong narrow blade on a long handle for one, if not the narrowest spade you have. The idea is to disturb the mothers roots as little as possible. The best suckers usually come from way under the bulb so you have to go in at an angle so you are cutting the sucker off at an angle, like you're reaching under the mother corm. Some recommend to clean the sucker up completely, all roots and pseudostem are cut off. Others say you can plant the sucker as it comes off the mother plant, I've done both, the latter is set back a touch but soon picks up.
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Brendan says...
Anyone got a good banana cake recipe?
(bragging now :-)

(Amanda, you must have one? :-)
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MaryT says...
Brendan here's an oldie (temperature and time needs to be lowered for fan forced oven)


BANANA LOAF

2C Self Raising Flour ½ C castor sugar
½ t salt ⅔ C chopped mixed peel
¼ t mixed spice ½ C walnuts, chopped
125g butter 2 x 60g eggs, beaten
500g ripe bananas

C = 250 ml cup t = teaspoon

Grease and flour (or line with baking paper) a 750g loaf tin. Sift the four, salt and spice into a mixing bowl. Rub in butter (or whizz in food processor) until fine breadcrumb stage. Peel and mash/slice bananas and add to flour with the remaining ingredients. Beat (or pulse in food processor) until combined. Turn into prepared tin and bake at 180 deg. C until loaf is well risen and pale golden (approx. 40 minutes). Leave in tin for 5 minutes then turn out and cool on wire rack.

If you use oil (say 1 C Macadamia Nut oil) instead of butter then just put everything in a bowl and mix together with a wooden spoon, adding eggs and oil last.
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VF says...
Sounds good MaryT - I love Banana Loaves/Bread. I've acquired this recipe recently, and its very easy and tasty too!

2 large very ripe bananas, mashed
3/4 C castor sugar
1 C WHOLE EGG mayonaise
zest of a lemon (optional)
2 C SR flour

Preheat oven to 180C(165C F/F).
In mixing bowl add banana,sugar, mayo. and lemon zest. Mix well.
Lightly mix in sifted flour until combined.
Poor into a loaf tin lined with baking paper.
Cook for 50-60 mins. or until a skewer inserted comes out clean.
Leave to cool in tin for about 10-15 mins. and cool further on wire rack.

(*gluten free SR flour works reasonably well too)

A handful of dried sultanas added is nice too.
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Brendan says...
Thanks MaryT & VF! I'll be trying the cake/loaf today:-)
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Brendan says...
Hi MaryT, made your banana cake a few days ago, absolutely beautiful! (sorry to get off topic, but it is a BANANA cake:-)
Didn't have the mixed spice, but still tastes great. Thanks.
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MaryT says...
That's great, Brendan. You can substitute mixed spice with all spice, or a bit of cinnamon and nutmeg but the mixed peel would have given it a great flavour anyway. :)
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ken1 says...
Hi everyone

An update on my post 15 months back - my banana did not grow over winter and in March this ripened to only finger size.
In mean time another banana flowered and by March grown to size of the attached photo. Any idea the type of banana?

I have a couple of suckers (or more) to swap with other fruit tree or give away.

cheers

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Brendan says...
Hi ken1, could be Ladyfinger? How high is the tree?
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ken1 says...
Thanks Brendan

It is just over 3 metres high.

cheers

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Brendan says...
Picked this 'double-bunger' the other day, it came from the smaller bunch on the left.

Bunch on right has about 96 bananas on :-)
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VF says...
Good looking bananas Brendan - did you pick them before your frost, or were they sheltered?(It's great your fruit seem unaffected). Do you do anything special for your banana plants in winter?
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Brendan says...
No VF, they were picked after our frost / -1ºC (two weeks ago), last weekend. The frost burnt some of the banana leaves, but apart from that, no other problems.
All the cold weather does is slow down the ripening process.
They are sheltered a bit by the bush nearby tho.
I try to give them a feed every month as well. (Super Growth organic fertilizer - 4 handfuls per tree, cow manure 2 or 3 bags per tree, and a ship-load of mulch :-)
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VF says...
Thanks Brendan, I'm new to banana growing (mine's about 6mths) so will take your fertilising regime on board. Is the Super Growth organic fertilizer something you can get at Bunnings?
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Brendan says...
Hi VF, super growth is better than rooster booster imho.
I think bunnings now sell blood & bone fert that has sulphate of potash added, that would be very good (for everything).

Check this: http://www.katekfertilizers.com.au/Organic-Super-Growth.html

Bananas like extra 'P' & 'K' fertilizer, and organic is usually better.
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VF says...
Thanks Brendan, I checked the link out. Seems like a good product, unfortunately no stockists less than an hour plus away.I'll follow up your other suggestions though. Cheers.
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Brendan says...
Hi VF, another very good organic fertilizer is Terrafoska TE, you should be able to buy it where you are?
It's not cheap, but probably the best around :-)
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GardeningAustraliaWannabee says...
Brendan, you need to double check your info, before posting info that is clearly incorrect.
Terrafoska TE is not an organic fertiliser. Might be based on chicken manure pellets, but it's loaded with the following: Sulphate of Ammonia, Muriate of Potash,
Diammonium Phosphate, Sulphate of Potash, Boric Acid
http://www.tff.com.au/downloads/MSDS_terrafoska_complete_te.pdf
An N value of 10 is usually a dead give away that it's not organic. Muriate of Potash is also an inferior source of potassium too. No good for spuds, citrus or stone fruit. The chloride is no good for soil microbes either. Given bananas like extra P too, I would have thought a value of 4 is on the low side, even with the DAP added.
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John Mc says...
Whichever way you look at it, store bought bags of fert's are all very expensive, which always keeps me on the lookout for cheaper alternatives.
The flavour of the month with me is looking further into the effectiveness of encouraging more worms around the roots of my trees.
Castings have five times more nitrogen, seven times more phosphorus and 11 times more potassium compared to ordinary soil, not to mention other nutes like calcium.. Add that to a weak homemade hydroponic based foliar feed once a month with a couple of ml of seasol/litre, makes a very cheap alternative over the commercial bags of ferts. I still (rarely)buy the odd bag of B&B, but in the main it's all about encouraging as many worms as possible with mulch and manures, IMHO.
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Brendan says...
Ok GAW, so it's a mixture of organic and inorganic fertilizer, you're right.
But, it IS suitable for 'spuds, citrus and stone fruit' (and bananas) :-)
http://www.tff.com.au/downloads/brochure_terrafosk_complete_te.pdf
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Lissa says...
I just feed my banana plants bucket loads of kitchen fruit/veg scraps. Keep the bucket under the sink for adding scraps then toss it around the base of a different fruit tree each week with a light cover of mulch. Worms make it disappear in no time. I also give everything some Organic Xtra everyone now and then.
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VF says...
Just want to thank everyone for all their individual tips for growing 'nanas - they seem to just gobble up any nutrients thrown their way and then want more, so good to see what others are finding that works.
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VF says...
Hi Brendan, just letting you know I used the Rooster Booster and some P & K supplements, and my banana plant seems to have shaken it's winter blues and is starting to grow again. Thanks. Just need water from the sky now!
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Brendan says...
Glad to hear it's working VF, I've done as you have, then topped it up with about 12 bags of cow manure, it is a tad 'fresh', but the banana trees don't seem to care! :-)

This 'little' bunch was picked about 1 month ago. It never ceases to amaze me how much better than shop bought bananas mine taste! Must be the extra P & K :-)
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Cin says...
I have just moved onto a new property and we have a number of fruit trees that I would love some assistance with.

There are quite a few banana trees but I think they need some tlc. Should I be pruning these right back? Some have bananas forming however most of them do not.

I've got access to huge amounts of horse manure if they like that?
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trikus says...
Looks like a crowded old stand . Its a great time to divide it up and plant a few banana circles around massive piles of horse manure .They really like to be re=planted after a few years , being heavy feeders .
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John Mc says...
I'm on the northern side of the CC if you need any assistance (Warnervale).
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Cin says...
Trikus any tips on how I divide it or can I just go in and start chopping away. The plan for this weekend was to start clearing off all the dead leaves so we can see what is in there. My partner is 6'5" so he can reach the high spots LOL

John I think we live in the same suburb :)

We seem to have a lot of the same trees also. On this property we have apples, plums, lemon, orange, mulberries, grapes, passionfruit, brazilian cherry, bananas and guava

There is also a very sick looking Bay tree

I'm on a learning curve with all our trees but very happy to have them here

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John Mc says...
Nice start there cin. I'd prune the grapevine asap as well.
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Ian G says...
Hi trikus would you know where i could get a monkey banana sucker from they are hard to find
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trikus says...
Ian are you local around here ? Wangan is near Tully is it not ? You could try asking the Hmong sellers at local markets .
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Ian G says...
Hi trikus yes Wangan is just up the road .I should try closer to home. I found a lady in Townsville markets with some. She is actually from Tully but alas she wouldn't sell me a sucker. I never thought of the Hmong's at the local markets it's amazing what they have. Cheers and Thank you very much for your advise
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Brendan says...
Nice size banana flower on my sugar banana tree. Hope this wind doesn't dislodge it!

Pic 1, can you spot the 3 wallabies?
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Diana says...
Hi Brendan,
Lovely. I think they learn a lot about what plants their mum chooses to eat by grazing out of the pouch like that. Are they agile wallabies?
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Brendan says...
Yes Diana, I'm sure they are Agile wallabies :-)
Because we don't have a dog, there's a big mob that calls our place home!
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Aleksa says...

Hi all,

new to this, but keen to replace my thriving philodendron with a banana here in my Melbourne backyard (bad luck, no space for both).

I wonder if someone with good experience on growing banana tree in Melbourne could recommend a sort and where to get the baby tree?

Cheers!

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Linton says...
Bananas in Melbourne
You can buy the so-called Cool Bananas from Pots Galore in Springvale and Bunnings have them during the summer months. However they don't like wind and need a lot of water to produce somewhat dubious fruit if you're lucky.

Frankly I don't think they're worth it here when there's so many other things which will grow better.
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Brendan says...
My sugar banana's progress. Thought I'd get a few more hands tho:-(
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VF says...
Looking good anyway Brendan. Are sugar banana=ducasse?
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Brendan says...
Hi VF, after looking at this: http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/order.html
I'm confused. It's not a Dwarf Ducasse, but could be a Pisang Ceylan or Lady Finger? It was given to me as a Sugar banana.
Maybe Mike or trikus from up north would know?
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trikus says...
Ducasse is a very tall plant , I have had bunches 4m high . Easy to spot P Ceylon , it has a pinkish mid rib on leaf , easily seen on newer ones up high . Also very crowded bunch . Send me a few green fruits and I will do a personal taste test ;-)
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Brendan says...
Thanks trikus, so it appears to be a Ducasse, not a Dwarf Ducasse. This bunch of mine would be 3.5 to 4m off the ground.
When they're ripe, they are super sweet (aka sugar bananas?). Mate of mine reckons they're the best bananas he's ever tasted!

http://www.australiantropicalfruits.org.au/ducasse/
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Mike says...
I have ducasse to 5m and the dwarfs are very thick at the base and under 2m.Dwarf ducasse bananas are not quite as good as standards and cut flesh also does not blacken.
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Vanessa says...
I know a lot of people say to cut the bell off the bunch but I now leave them on. Four reasons - the honeyeaters love them, they tell me when its time to cut the bananas (when the bell gets very small), they give me something to hold onto when I am dangling from a ladder trying to cut a bunch off and its once less time I will be covered in banana sap!

It makes no difference to the pace the bunch ripens. Looks pretty cool too.
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allybanana says...
Ive noticed honeyeaters sucking the banana flowers too.
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MiLK_MaN says...
What makes you think you can't get decent bananas in Melbourne?

I believe these are Blue Java. The flower opened mid October I think, perfect timing in my opinion to get some fruit here in Melbourne.

I had a Dwarf Ducasse that had a flower in Autumn, was a disaster with the fruit turning black and shriveling up, so I cut the bunch off and chopped the plant down hoping some of the pups might delay their flowers until Spring this year.
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Nice work MilkMan! That gives me hope for my new spot here :)

I have heaps of room around our swimming pool which has brick paving and has a brick wall around half of it - and dappled light morning and afternoon (in summer) from the big peppermint trees around the place...and lots of water to give them...
I reckon they would love a warm, humid and sheltered spot like that do u think?

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Can anyone recommend where I can get Abassynian Banana plants in Victoria or seeds online within Australia. Thanks
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Jason says...
If you can tell me how to make my 5 year old plant grow more than the deformed 1 foot height it is. Ill send you a seed. But really I think they are the most difficult to grow plant I've ever seen
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Brendan says...
Hi Jason, all I can suggest is give it extra P & K fertilizer, dolomite and cow manure.
Because I get it cheap, I've given mine about 6 bags of cow manure, to each tree!
They also get a good organic fertilizer called Super Growth, it has trace elements as well.
http://www.katekfertilizers.com.au/Organic-Super-Growth.html
It's hard to over-feed bananas :-)
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19th February 2013 8:46am
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Jason says...
Yeah I know they can take some juice but I've given it the same as normal bananas and its just still got a severe deficiency of something. To the point of having deformed leaves. I don't get those kind of problems with normal bananas but palm trees also throw deformed leaves in my garden and will not grow. Its obviously a huuuge deficiency if I ever figure out what it is all my trees would be better I reckon
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bnswillis says...
hi this is brian
was wanting a banana plant
if any one close can help how much $
can leave details where & what times I can pick up from thanks all
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2nd May 2013 4:41pm
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Phil@Tyalgum says...
If that's Deer Park in Melbourne, there is a big banana plant in a private house near the corner of Milleara Rd and Keilor Park Dve, you can see it from the street, near a corner if I remember rightly. You might be able to dig up a few unwanted suckers. Otherwise, Blue Sky do great mail orders of tissue cultured plants, and sometimes they come up for sale at Garden World in Braeside.
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2nd May 2013 6:59pm
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Anonymous says...
Hi Brian

I have suckers if you are interested, please leave email address so I can contact you. I live in Balwyn
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giggles says...
i cant believe that someone else is asking the same question i love the way my banana tree looks next to my above ground pool but a neighbor told me that banana trees roots go to where the water is and will grow up through the bottom of my pool i water my plants alot and i just dont want to eleive it maybe its not true or im just in denial would like to know the facts
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Jason says...
That's silly, a tree can't sense water like a dog
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Julie says...
Not sure that's true Jason. I planted a veg garden when I moved in, and within six months the Camphor laurel tree roots had moved in from a neighbour's tree.

They weren't there when I started, and the veg grew well for the first few months.

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12th July 2013 8:54pm
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The Dragon says...
Hi Brian,
I have suckers if u want them, I also have just harvested my bunch of bananas- some are ripe already but it will need to be hung for a little while for the rest to ripen. Dont care what anyone says, I have grown bananas in Melbourne so it can be done successfully.

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21st July 2013 3:43pm
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Nick T says...
Do you have any more suckers to spare The Dragon? I live really close in Altona :)
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21st July 2013 4:23pm
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Aleksa says...
Hi Dragon,
if you have excess of suckers, I register my interest for one of these, as I always wanted to plant a banana. I have a spot filadendron likes a lot, so I guess banana will too.
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13th August 2013 1:33pm
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Salsta says...
Hi

Does anyone know if there are Ae ae bananas in Australia at all?

I'd love one of those for the look of the plant alone but they're said to be delicious too.

@ Dragon, where in Melbourne have you grown them please? And what type?
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Mike Tr says...
No Ae Ae in Australia I'm afraid.They are not as good as most to eat but sure look good.
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Salsta says...
Thanks, Mike!

It was the look of them that I wanted. I'll have to get a panache fig to get it now.
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Juergen says...
Does anyone know this type of Banana.

Small plants have dark red spots on the leaf
the fruit is smaller than Lady Finger and the plant is
about 3 m tall.
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com says...
I would just leave it what you have is the one they mcall seniorita they are small but very sweet they are expensive bananas and hard to find leave it alone and let it ripped you will love it
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Thank you for your help Charlie
I will put a bag over it and let the bananas ripen.

Juergen
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Cass7v says...
Hi everyone, I have banana trees next to my house (just moved in) but the fruit is being eaten by something before they ripen. I know I can put a bag over them to protect them, but I'm looking for a cheap option. Can I use garbage bags?
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17th August 2014 11:07am
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JohnMc1 says...
Anything to stop the Lorikeets and King Parrots from seeing them. The blue plastic banana bags stop them, even left open on the bottom they don't touch them, I'd say a garbage bag should work, nothing to lose.
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bertybeetle says...
No they do not have an invasive root system. They have a corm(think that's how it's spelled) it's like a big barrel shape root. From which the new saplings grow. Hope this helps. Otherwise Google it.
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bertybeetle says...
No they do not have an invasive root system. They have a corm(think that's how it's spelled) it's like a big barrel shape root. From which the new saplings grow. Hope this helps. Otherwise Google it.
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Al says...
H all,
Does anybody know if there the are so-called super dwarfs here? I have found a dwarf that looks like cavendish and the top of the highest leaves are about 4 foot tall. No idea of fruit quality but they have the typical cav. leaves.
I also recently spied a new bell and fruit on a red dacca and they look amazing. Mine is supposedly a dwarf but no sign of fruit at 5 foot or so and over 1 year in the ground.
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JohnMc1 says...
I have a super dwarf here Al, just planted it out after a couple of years in a gro-bag, wasn't doing it justice.
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Al says...
Have you ever got it to fruit John? and do you think its a Cav?
That looks a bit stockier than the ones I've just seen.
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10th January 2015 2:29pm
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JohnMc1 says...
Yes Al, the stump in the ground fruited but the birds beat me to it. I'm back on track now after a 2 year reno project so can dedicate much more time to my little gems.
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sternus1 says...
Always impressed by the health of your trees John, that musa is in textbook health.
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JohnMc1 says...
The super dwarf has only been out of the gro-bag and in the ground for a couple of weeks- it can only get better from here.
This is a Chinese dwarf plantain, taking ages to fill out.
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sternus1 says...
Dwarf plantain sounds like a winner. Fried plantains are fit for a king, especially thai style. Down the track when you have pups. I'll look you up for a trade, I've landed some killer stuff recently you'll probably want for the collection.
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JohnMc1 says...
I'll see how many more are coming up, I've already promised Al one. I don't know if I'm that keen on them, might have to look up that Thai recipe or any cooking banana recipe for that matter.
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10th January 2015 5:26pm
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sternus1 says...
Thai fried plantains with cinnamon honey and ice cream will change your life John. About as close to a perfect food as I've ever had.

Whenever you've got a spare let me know, I've got a perfectly sized space around my pond for it next to the velutina you sent me.
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Salsta says...
That Melbourne Blue Java give me great hope for mine in West Gippsland.

Thanks for posting it!
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sternus1 says...
I'm not even overselling it, honestly. Utterly delicious, simple to make too.
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Salsta says...
It one plantain better than another for this, Sternus? As I said, I haven't been interested in them before, and thus I dont' have one yet, so I can choose which variety within reason.

I do now have six thriving in the backyard now. They survived last winter, including two freezes without being set back, they all just went into hibernation for a while.
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4th March 2015 4:16pm
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sternus1 says...
A question I've no answer to I'm afraid.

I can only say that they're heavenly.
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The poster formerly known as... says...
Saw in the paper today that Panama disease has found its way to Tully. A bit of a worry. Hopefully a threadbare quarantine can contain it's spread in the region.
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sternus1 says...
Definitely bad news but we'll have to wait and see if other cases are called in.
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Salsta says...
Thanks for your answer, Sternus!

A couple of the varieties I have are supposed to be good for cooking. I'll try your idea with them and if that doesn't work, I'll get whatever plantain is available to give that a go.

Cheers!
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mikejohn says...
Johan, I realise this is an old post but how much ck88 does you use and how often? How much aglime and wood ash? Mike
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Juergen says...
I think it was 2 handsfull ever month for eack plant.
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Salsta says...
I've never had any interest in plantains until that description, Sternus. Now I think I ought to try growing them too.
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Salsta says...
Here are most of my lot now, they're growing in West Gippsland, Victoria.

From left they're Pisang Ceylan, Red Dacca, Goldfinger and Blue Java. There's a Santa Caterina Prata going well to the right of the photo.

I have a few more babies growing presently, so hopefully they'll settle in as well as this lot. I haven't given them any protection for the last two winters to see how they go, as usually we're frost free. Last year wea the coldest winter in 20 years and we had two freezes in a row. They weren't affected. This winter was the coldest in 25 years and we had three freezes in a row. They survived the first two without problems but got frost damage to their leaves after the third and then started to absorb the rest of their leaves for the remainder of winter.

They're coming back well now but I reckon I might cover them or otherwise protect them next winter just in case. At least I now know they can survive what's probably the worst we can throw at them though. Hopefully they grow like crazy this summer again.
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Dougie says...
Here is a photo of my Banana from a couple of weeks ago, I picked up the original plant form a couple in Rye who have been growing bananas for decades in Melbourne. I wasn't sure they would ever fruit but just before Christmas I spotted the flower. The plants were knocked around pretty hard over this winter with a lot of frost damage to their leaves but they've come back strong and hopefully in a couple of months we will be enjoying the fruit.
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Markmelb says...
I neglected to protect my red Dacca - lost the main large stem of 2 years but suckers are coming back - my tip I read that people pushing limits in englands sth coast is wrap stem in rockwool and newspaper then gaffir tape for insulation of growing internals - should work a treat for us here and give plant that needed early start in spring?
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randey says...
Hey Dougie, looking good. Just remember to keep the manure and the water up to them. Bananas are voracious feeders and will always respond well. In the past i had my crop being watered from the shower using phosphate free soap.Added to that copious amounts of poo and received bunches with 9-12 hands.
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Dougie says...
We've got 2 chooks in our back yard so when I've been cleaning out their pen the Bananas have been receiving the benefits. Nice to have a good backyard ecosystem. Next on my list is to get a worm farm set up as our fruit and veg leftovers are too much for the chooks.
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RichardCl1 says...
Banana suckers wanted:

Willing to pay $10 per sucker for proven fruiters plus postage max 2 each varierty.

Red Dacca, Goldfinger and Blue Java, Santa Caterina,Pisang Ceylan anything else of interest.

Location Central Coast NSW. Please make sure you are South of Taree.

info @ Timecon .com. au

Chasing John Mc1 contact and Trikus contact details if anyone has or knows them.


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rustynutz says...
We have some dwarf cavs that have fruited a number of times.
Plant is about 6 foot tall absolute max and has quite a thick trunk also has a fairly large flower and fruit set.
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rustynutz says...
Bananas love ash from winter fires and cow shit. Do not drop the poop directly at the base of the "palms" spread in out around the edge of the clump.
The best suckers are the one with sharp pointy leaves when young and the suckers with the more rounded type leaves should be removed.
When cutting off the remainder of the flower and male flowers make sure you have at least 6 inches of staclk hanging out. The little bananas are the male part of the flower and will never grow into anything edible.
The cut off stump of the fruit stalk should be treated for anthrax nose infection as you can get a black die back which will travel up the bunch of bananas and destroy the whole bunch before it has time to ripen :(
Also I use a long forked stick to prop up the plant to prevent wind and heavy fruit crop pulling the whole kit and caboodale over!
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RichardCl1 says...
Hi Rustynuts,

Your offer of fruiting proven dwarf cavs is accepted, email me your details for payment.

Richard
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rustynutz says...
I have dwarf cavandish, blue java and cavandish.
What suckers do you require?
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Kenzie1955 says...
Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to buy banana suckers in SE Qld. Thanks
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8th February 2016 10:01pm
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RichardCl1 says...
Hi Rusty,

Dwarf cavs, blue java and Cavendish please.

please email payment to : info at Timecon.com.au

Richard
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Theposterformerlyknownas says...
If in SEQ You need to apply for a permit from the DPI (or whatever its called now - no doubt it has 'Innovation' in its name) and then buy from a registered seller. Blue Sky Backyard Bananas has the info on their site and has always been good to me. I would recommend the Dwarf Ducasse. Fruits lower than head height, very dense and filling banana, good taste and requires almost no care, unlike others that just wont fruit under the same conditions.
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Lissa says...
Check out Blue Sky Nursery website Kenzie. Growing bananas in SEQ requires a permit.
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Gordo says...
Another vote for Blue sky backyard bananas. http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/
Very helpful, healthy plants.
Permits are easy to get and free. Blue sky will tell you how to get one.
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10th February 2016 9:37am
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RichardCl1 says...
I tried Blue Sky they are not allowed to send to southern NSW anymore, any ideas?
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Lissa says...
Richard - bummer re Blue Sky. Not sure on the restrictions growing bananas in NSW but suspect it is easier than Qld. For suckers try your local nurseries, farmers markets and gardening groups. Do a search online for suckers in NSW and see what comes up.
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Lissa says...
Gordo at Samford you are just up the road from me. I'm at Strathpine. Take a look at Brisbane Local Food group online. We talk about all things home grown/made in SEQ.
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Gordo says...
Thanks Lissa, Will do. :)
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Samford
3rd March 2016 10:11am
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cooltropics says...
Love the dwarf bananas - especially the mcall seniorita in the pot! where are they sold?
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Queanbeyan,NSW
8th November 2016 10:25am
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cooltropics says...
Hi everyone, love this forum.. just like to add that we grow a rather generous clump of fruiting bananas down in Batemans Bay..think they are lady finger.. sweet & tender flesh. harvested a big bunch last year (beat the fruit bats & possums to it..which they haven't attacked so far..the bats go for the massive fig tree..we never fertilise or water the bananas.. had them for years now..new pups appear regularly, planted on southern side of hs..
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8th November 2016 10:43am
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