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HappyEarth says... anyone know if the lucmo self-pollinating or do you need more than one tree ? Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author Wollongong 13th September 2008 7:28am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... HappyEarth, just checked out your website. A great read,informative and inspirational.Thankyou for all the hard work you put in to setting your site up and making it available to us. A big tick for believing that information should be and wants to be free!Lots of luck with your vision, I know how rewarding it is because we are doing much the same thing just in a cooler climate. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 13th September 2008 9:47pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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| About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 15th September 2008 6:40pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hello Fruitist, I wrote an email to you earlier but it seems to have escaped into cyberspace. Anyway I was interested to hear more about the hardy pouterias you spoke of.Thanks to you I have now ordered some lucmos from Limberlost. Have to wait a year for them and then pay big$s freight but thats the way it goes. Jantina | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 15th September 2008 6:46pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... Hi Jantina, It was me earlier who said self pollinating. A friend of mine in Innisfail bought a grafted one (not sure about this) a year after I bought mine and his bore him a fruit earlier than mine. This probably has to do with the warmer weather. I now attached photos of the 2 fruits. Actually I bought my Lucuma from Nutty Berry in Brisbane which I think has since closed down the nursery. She ordered it from another guy who I forgot the name now who used to run the Nutty Berry nursery and then moved to FNQ.
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fruitist says... Judging from the shape of the fruit, I think mine is a real Lucuma. The tree was ordered from Nutty Berry Nursery which in turn got it from Franz Honnef in FNQ, I think. There is a picture of the "Lucuma" fruit in TradeWind web site. The shape of that fruit is exactly the same as my Canistel fruits whose seedling tree I bought from Casper. I used to have a grafted Canistel from Daleys which has half moon shaped fruits. Lucuma is so rare that even my Brazilian friends don't have the trees so I think a lot of confusion between the two trees/fruits. I haven't seen any Canistel fruits which have the shape in Pictures 1 and 2. Any one who has seen Ross Sapote want to comment? I will talk to my FNQ friends about Ross Sapote this week. My seeds will go to my FNQ friends first, then Brazillians then me. I might try to graft onto my Canistel seedling. | About the Author 20th October 2008 9:22am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi fruitist,very interesting, I can only hope that the ones I ordered are the correct plant.Have to admit that I have given lucumas little thought since being in Japan and chasing up pawpaws,akebias,Japanese taro,lotus root and looking at all the delightful little vegie gardens tucked into any available corner.Anyway can,t think straight this morning because we go home this afternoon and i,m too excited.Cheers Jantina | About the Author 20th October 2008 10:12am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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tr says... I just saw some Canistels on a tree in Sth Johnstone , nearly exactly the same as your last 2 pics fruitist , funnily enough the guy growing them is a Ross . I have seen several shapes of Ross/yellow sapote . wikipedia shows slightly diferent shaped fruit , almost reverse of yours . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucuma and what is this ? looks amazing ... http://www.chileflora.com/Florachilena/FloraEnglish/HighResPages/EH0420.htm | About the Author peter12 20th October 2008 10:32am #UserID: 1019 Posts: 38 View All peter12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... The Lucuma fruits in the picture in Wikipedia have the same shape of my grafted Canistel from Daleys. One species Pouteria multiflora has smaller rounded fruits. Fruits are about 2 inches in diameter, almost round, and look just like a small Canistel. The seed is very large, and the pulp is very thin. The leaves are darker green, duller and broader about 12" by 3". | About the Author 20th October 2008 11:11am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... The Pouteria splendens' leaves look very similar to Wongai Plum (Manilkara kauki)and both can grow in water. The fruits are very different. The seeds look similar, both have shining dark brown coat and a helium. Here is a picture of the Wongai Plum fruits and seeds. Wongai Plum is growing wild in Cape York and Torres Strait Islands. A delicacy there. There is another fruit called Wongay (Pouteria sericea) in Kimberleys. It can grow in water too.
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Sean says... I got some Lucuma seeds when I was on holiday in Peru.I got a few of them to grow and my good plant is only about 50 cm but it looks happy and is stating to grow after surviving another winter fine. The fruit itself was a strange sot of texture, maybe a bit like wood putty but the taste was really nice and sweet with a Maple syrup taste. By the way I think Paul Rieker ( not sure about his last name spelling) from nothern NSW has seeds available sometimes. Sean | About the Author Gippsland Victoria 3rd November 2008 11:20pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Reacher, but you would have to almost go knock on his door to convince Paul to go and grab some seeds. It'll will be faster for me to wait for you tree to fruit Sean :). I can wait 10 years. I was silly enough to let my 2 6 month old Lucumas die while I was in Mexico. Actually they got sunburnt just after I got back. I had a freind of mine over in Peru last year or so but they have got really strict with letting seed out of the country lately so It's very difficult to get anymore | About the Author Portland, VIC 4th November 2008 1:39am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Jason, fruitist put me on to Limberlost nursery ,where I have 3 grafted lucumas on order.The tree price was quite reasonable, about $27 but the postage is horrendous.Anyway he says it will be a year before they are ready and by that time I might have worked out a cheaper way to get them here.Perchance I might even be able to give you seeds and scion material before 10 years!Of course in this game it is better not to count your chickens just yet! Do not know if you saw my post to you on sunday under avocado?Could you possibly email me your ph. no. or email address so I can contact you if we are coming in your direction.? You could then tell me if it suits you for us to call, or not as the case may be.Thanks Jantina.P.S. Sean, most reassuring to know your lucumas are doing well in Gippsland which has a climate similar to Mt. Gambier ,please keep us posted on your progress. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 4th November 2008 8:44am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steve says... I recently became interested in growing Lucuma after meeting a Peruvian. He said in Peru the fruit is usually blended into a drink. I've read that it prefers high altitudes & as Peru is very dry, I assume it may not enjoy my sub tropical & humid climate. However I read a post earlier here that Paul is growing them in northern NSW. Any idea of when they crop (re fruit fly problem)? I grow around 60 friut & nut trees but because most of the summer crop is lost through fruit flies I'm trying to plant varieties that crop in the cooler months. I felt sure I would be able to buy Lucuma plants from Daleys. What is happening in the world today, or is life not meant to be easy? | About the Author Steve12 Coffs Harbour 4th January 2009 8:04pm #UserID: 1818 Posts: 5 View All Steve12's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hey Steve, I was up at Pauls place about a month ago (Feb) and saw his lucuma with fruit - not sure about fruit fly though as i didnt get to sample the fruit. Anyone have any luck sourcing some trees/seeds? Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author Wollongong 2nd April 2009 2:40pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jose L. says... I have a just one lucuma, and it fruits without another lucuma near, but it fruits very little, I donīt know why. Someone told me that there are two varieties (at least) of lucuma: "Lucuma de seda" (translated as Silk lucuma), an lucuma de palo (Stick lucuma). "Lucuma de seda" (mine) has more quality but smaller fruit with just one seed, and the tree is poor productive, and "Lucuma de palo" has less quality but bigger fruit, with more seeds, and the tree is more productive. Last year I tried to pollininate with a brush without success... I noticed that the flowers had five phases, and I pollinated and marked one flower of each five, but none of them gave fruit. This year, for example, my 6 feets tree has just one fruit (and many flowers). I have to say that I live in a very windy island, and may be the problem. I got Lucuma de palo seeds, and now I have planted a seedling near the other one. Lets wait and see... If you live in North Australia, you should get a Rollinia, relative to the custard apple, but better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQOcOZUlkhU You can get it there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwfPcjEBbi8 | About the Author Jose L1 Spain 9th April 2009 8:26pm #UserID: 2169 Posts: 12 View All Jose L1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jose L. says... Yes, Jantina, I have tasted it. It is very difficult to get the right ripening point (you should wait until the fruit drops itself, and wait 10-20 days more till it softens. But if you get the right point is delicious. Its strange because the pulp is dry, and it tastes to me like a walnut cream. | About the Author Jose L1 Spain 10th April 2009 12:17am #UserID: 2169 Posts: 12 View All Jose L1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jose L. says... Oh! Iīve found an interesting peruvian page about lucuma culture. Itīs in spanish, but if you donīt speak spanish you can get one of these awful automatic translations: http://www.monografias.com/trabajos58/produccion-lucuma-peru/produccion-lucuma-peru.shtml It has a second page (clik almost down and right) | About the Author Jose L1 Spain 10th April 2009 12:23am #UserID: 2169 Posts: 12 View All Jose L1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... THanks very much Jose . Finally some real info on a mysterious species . Goes to show how unreliable wikipedia and other internet sources can be . Just repeating wrong information as gospel truth . Many people are mistakingly growing forms of Canistel thinking they have Lucama . Also my reference shows the 2 names synonomous Pouteria lucama & obovata. | About the Author Trikus Tully 10th April 2009 10:52am #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jose L. says... Wikipedia says that P.lucuma and obovata are synonomous, but I donīt know. I have just seen obovata photos and have a different shape: my lucumas are all round. Maybe its a mistake with canistels (P.campechiana). I have a grafted canistel plant too, but it too small and it has not fruit yet. Maybe this year... And I have also a sapodilla about to fruit. This is also pretty rustic, and the fruit is said to be delicious. A must for you too... It is also pretty rustic the black sapote (it tastes like chocolate puding), and a white sapote (mine is not too good; too small fruits and have an unpleasant bitter pulp under the skin). Some say that lucumas have a repulsive aftertaste, but I havenīt tasted something like that, unless the fruit is not perfectly rippen. Then it is... ŋastringent? I donīt know the word, kinda an unrippen quince... Yes, I thing it is a good way to understand what I mean... | About the Author Jose L1 Spain 10th April 2009 5:17pm #UserID: 2169 Posts: 12 View All Jose L1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... I have the Pouteria obovata, The fruit is roughly the shape of a chocolate pudding fruit. Definitely different to the canistel looking photos mentioned earlier on.. After several lean years it now carries 140 fruit that will ripen in october i guess, They are not best eaten fresh but really flash made into ice-creams, shakes. baking. I can spare some seeds in due course if anyone has some other good seeds to do a swap. The tree is a peruvian selection called 'Montalban' and is self pollenating. | About the Author denise4 auckland kiwiland 20th April 2009 8:47pm #UserID: 1929 Posts: 73 View All denise4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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trikus says... Denise I am certain many here would just love some of your seeds , and they may be allowed into Australia , BUT , I know it is hard getting seeds into NZ . I do not think it would grow well here in the tropics , though I would like to try .What would you like ? Lakoocha , Kwai Muk , Bunchosia , Pouteria viridis , Pouteria sapote , Theobroma cacoa , Coffee, Synsepalum dulcificum , Garcinia sp., perhaps brasiliensis. | About the Author Trikus Tully 20th April 2009 11:01pm #UserID: 930 Posts: 749 View All Trikus's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Qld DPI info says this if it's any help: CANISTEL P. campechiana: Dark green, shiny leaves 12-25cm long etc..fruit ovoid, pointed at stigma end with a smooth yellow to orange sking enclosing a mealy, yellow pulp with several large, shiny seed. Fruit size 4-5cm dia 5-17cm long Wgt up to 1.5kg. LUCMO P. obovata: Lucmo is similar to canistel with larger leaves and fruit. (no info on types - book from '83) | About the Author amanda19 24th May 2009 3:23pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... I just re-read this - it's not much help is it? Apart from the names, u could could drive a truck thru' those measurements! Our (WA) agricultural dept is great and the Qld one is pretty awesome - try them: www.dpi.qld.gov.au | About the Author amanda19 25th May 2009 1:03am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Steve says... Guilly, I'm assuming you smuggled the seeds in the country. Returning from Peru with seeds poses a threat to Australian agriculture & is the reason why our Quarantine Laws are in place. I would love to grow a Lucuma but not at the risk of introducing pests or diseases into our country & the many millions of people who would be subsequently effected & have to pay & be unnecessarily burdened in attempting to control or eradiate these problems. No matter the desire to have a rare plant excuses the possible consequences of bringing illegal seeds or plant material into Australia. | About the Author Steve Coffs Harbour 8th June 2009 9:59am #UserID: 2290 Posts: 23 View All Steve's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi John l. definitely not a general rule, always check with quarantine before organizing seed import or you may be very disappointed because they do not hesitate to destroy.Even if it is allowed seed , do not bring it back to Oz in your personal luggage unless you have organized it with quarantine beforehand because customs will just take it off you. In my ignorance I once brought seed back with me (it was dahlia seed, quite allowable) and declared it at customs but they said unless I had precleared it with customs in the bin it went regardless of what it was. AQIS has a website that apparently tells you what is an allowable import and what is not but being a computer dud I can never find the info I need and always end up ringing them directly to get an answer. You need to know the proper botanical name for what you want to import and any seed you get sent to you needs to be clearly labelled with the correct botanical name, these guys are not flexible.However if you play by their rules it is easy to import allowable seed. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 9th June 2009 10:44am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Guilly, yes there are a few places that have lucumo growing, they are just very hard to track down! Limberlost nursery up near Cairns will grow them for you on request, they have 3 in the works for me. A bit of a wait (1 year)but I,m very keen to grow a few. I have also brought wooden articles and processed food back with me from Japan and Holland, declared it and been allowed to keep it.May your lucumos grow well and bear you much delicious fruit. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 15th June 2009 8:04pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Jantina - i wouldn't even attempt to grow that plant here in my climate (warmer than yours) - let us know how u go please?! I am about to try a Kwai Muk (sp?) (Artocarpus) but I don't hold out much hope for it - or the Rollinia - but am keen to try! We got wooden stuff confiscated by quarantine - only cos' they were "forbidden weapons".. (poison dart thing) .... far out..!? Like kids 2day don't know how 2 make a ging??? | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 17th June 2009 1:27am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Amanda, I would think lucumo would do very well for you. There is a very interesting book called Lost Crops of the Incas (your library may have it) which goes into detail about lucumo and it certainly sounds like I could grow it here and if you go back to the beginning of this thread you will see where Fruitist also thinks it would grow here. Microlimates are wonderful things.I have a seed swap organised and depending on how many seeds I get I would be happy to send you a couple to try if you are interested (only because I'm sure it would do well). | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 17th June 2009 11:51am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... P.S. I have a rollinia in a pot doing very well here. Daleys grow and fruit them in a grow bag so I don't see why mine won't. It's in a north facing solarium that gets up to 30c on a winters day with a bit of sun (after that I open the doors)it hasn't stopped growing since I got it, probably not as fast as up north but I'm not complaining. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 17th June 2009 11:57am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Thanks Jantina - that's a kind offer and I am really pleased to hear about your rollinia!! You must have a very well organised/thought out garden? I think I may have to stop planting things for a bit - I have 83 fruit trees now and can see I am not going to get a holiday for a long time if I don't curb my enthusiasm! :))) | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 18th June 2009 9:45am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... To Ellen, Jantina and everyone who is interested in the seeds of this fruit. No need to import seeds of this fruit. we have them in QLD. I had some fruits in Cairns last December from Rusty market, very sweet (green skin and yellow flesh and small seeds) not like the cousin variety where the seeds are big and yellow skin.If I buy them a again this December I will save the seeds, you can have the seeds for free,email me jujubeforsale@yahoo.com.au | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 2nd August 2009 10:28am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, I think around mid september roughly you could see green buds appear. Please just either water or give it some diluted seaweed solution (seasol) that is all you need. I was told the chance to get fruit this year is high because all jujube trees are 4 year old, originally 1 meter tall but were prunned back for easily packaging. BTW, I found a picture of your Chico variety. http://encantofarms.com/gpix/GP922-19.jpg I will contact you regarding to the lucuma seeds after I got back from holiday. Take care. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 2nd August 2009 11:06am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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unicorn7 says... Great site. we have developed a product that includes lucuma powder. i am really keen to photograph a lucuma fruit for a brochure we are preparing. Any idea how I can get my hands on a specimen? I have noticed that there are several varieties but i am not sure which one specifically is used in the powder we get from living earth. | About the Author unicorn7 Castlemaine 15th October 2009 10:45am #UserID: 2903 Posts: 2 View All unicorn7's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tropicdude says... All these Pouteria "lucumas" varieties are a bit confusing. I was first introduced to a fruit called a "Lucuma" I tried it a couple days after it was given to me, the fruit I was given is small compared to pictures of Lucumas I have seen on the net. the ones I tried were only about 5cm. they had very little pulp. but they tasted just like what others have described, seems Pouteria obvata/lucuma vary greatly from place to place, there is a "Lucuma de Monte" or mountain Lucuma ( wild Lucuma) that looks just like what I have seen in some Peruvian videos. as for taste, I have tried a few more of the local "small" lucumas, and the trick is getting the perfect ripeness, if you pick them "yellow" they still arent ripe yet, give them a few days, but if you wait too long they ferment. I plan on ordering seeds for this Pouteria Sp. pictured. By the way, the seeds from the fruit I planted sprouted in about 20 days, almost 100% of the seeds sprouted. Ill translate some stuff from this video. Pepino = Melumber, Kaki = Persimmon, Pacay = Ice Cream Bean ( Inga edulis ), notice in this video that they show two types of "Lucuma" a pointy type and a roundish variety.
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Jantina says... Thanks for the video Tropicdude, very interesting. I find the whole lucuma identifying thing very confusing. I bought what I thought was the round lucuma but it arrived labelled Pouteria Nitida and on inquiry was told it was the same taste as the round one but an elongated shape (about 8 inches long)and can find no reference to it anywhere. I am also trying some Pouteria Obovata seed Denise kindly sent me. Elsewhere I have read that Pouteria obovata is not the lucuma that is popular in Peru.I'd like to hear from people who have actually eaten a lucuma , preferably while they were in Peru! | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 17th October 2009 11:10pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tropicdude says... Jantina, I really believe that Pouteria obovata is the "real" Lucuma, as the obvata is synonymous with Pouteria lucuma. seems to me that the Pouteria could be divided into two groups, one group has the consistency of hard boild egg yolks, with that maple flavor ( Lucuma and all its sisters, the Ross, and the Canistel ( Pouteria campechiana ) then you have the Abiu (Pouteria caimito ) which I didnt care too much for, they are a bit bland and have a Jelly consistency. Pouteria caimito not to be confused with the Star Apple which is Chrysophyllum cainito which is also called Caimito in some places. anyway, tell me how it goes with the Obvata seeds, as I have some Pouteria Sp. on their way. I could learn from someone else s experience :) I have no idea what type Pouteria that I have now, as I have not seen them pictured anywhere. | About the Author Tropicdude 18th October 2009 10:24am #UserID: 2856 Posts: 24 View All Tropicdude's Edible Fruit Trees |
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unicorn7 says... Hi Tropicdude thanks so much for putting up this video. I ended up finding a shot of a round lucuma fruit on fotolio, however i will eventually need to get my hands on one for a studio photograph. So if you have any success in growing these in the future or know anyone that is about to harvest the fruit then feel free to let me know. cheers unicorn7 | About the Author unicorn7 Castlemaine 24th October 2009 12:47pm #UserID: 2903 Posts: 2 View All unicorn7's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tropicdude says... Hiyas unicorn, If I come across some of these "Obvata" type here in the Dominican Republic, I'll be sure to take some pictures of them and post them here, there is one place that I havent visited yet that might have them. Endo-Caribe has an experimental farm, and they have listed Lucuma "Pouteria Obvata" on their website. who knows maybe I can get a seedling too. they also have Cupuaįu which I am after also ( Theobroma grandiflora ). | About the Author Tropicdude 24th October 2009 3:22pm #UserID: 2856 Posts: 24 View All Tropicdude's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Robert Snyder says... I have 3 lucmas growing in pots here in Toronto. My in-laws brought seeds 3 years ago. Well, one got exposed to -3 degrees Celsius. That may be 28 F. All its leaves lost the shine, then drooping more and more. Is there a way to save that one? Thanks. How long / how big before they fruit? | About the Author RobertSnyder1 Toronto 8th January 2010 5:09am #UserID: 3211 Posts: 1 View All RobertSnyder1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Robert, the leaves will probably drop off but that does not necessarily mean it will die. Do you have Seasol (a seaweed solution) over there or something similar. It,s very good for shocked plants and also gives a bit more cold resistance. Tropicdude, I have seven seedlings up and going well. The leaves look rounder than my Pouteria Nitida but hard to tell since they are still juvenile. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 8th January 2010 12:01pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sakana says... Hi to everybody I am from Peru, I have never seen any other type of Lucuma in Peru but the round bronze-green colour ones. I know down in Chile there are other kind of different Lucuma and some in Ecuador as well. None of these are consumed in Peruvian Cuisine, when I was little I used to go to the markets to buy Lucuma (my favourite fruit) and the only one was the round one, with a quite dry pulp a bit orange. Recently my parents sent me some dried lucuma powder, which is 100% dried lucuma from Peru. If any is interested in trying it I could send you some! I dont have many but I'm very glad that you are so interested in a Peruvian fruit, specially my favourite one! | About the Author Victor Sydney 10th January 2010 4:06pm #UserID: 3228 Posts: 2 View All Victor's Edible Fruit Trees |
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HappyEarth says... Hey Sakana, I would love to try some lucumo powder also. I have a number of seeds in a pot that im trying to germinate at the moment - never tasted the fruit though. Do you have an email address so i can send you through my address details? cheers Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 12th January 2010 5:18pm #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi JUJUBE FOR SALE, for some reason my emails don't seem to get through to you sometimes. Yes they did arrive THANKYOU very much, it was very kind of you to send them and I planted them straightaway. Your seeds were a different shape to the ones Denise sent me, can you decribe the colour and shape of the fruit? I don't suppose you saw any foliage? By the way I planted two of those pineapple tops( the supersweet with the tops cut off but these had more top left on than usual)they haven't grown any new leaves yet but they are still green. If they grow you can have one.Thanks again. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 15th January 2010 9:09am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Jantina, I bought from the guy who had the farm and he said he picked from his 5 year old tree that morning. He said this variety has smaller leaves compare to the bigger fruit variety. I went back to the apartment and took the picture straight away. As you can see from the picture the fruit is small, sort of rounded with just a bit pointy at the bottom end. Most varieties that I have tasted would turn bright yellow when ripe but not this one (still greeny when ripes) Happy growing. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 15th January 2010 9:27am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Jantina, that book you mentioned, LOST CROPS OF THE INCAS, can be read in its entirety online here. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=030904264X Whoops, I just tried to read another page and it asked me to pay. Sorry, I'd thought it was one of those free online books. :( Still, it does show some interesting lists of plants. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 22nd January 2010 7:55pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Hi Jantina, Yes, it's interesting that we can now buy, here in Australia, many of the previously 'unknown' plants mentioned in the book. At a guess I'd say that the book may have had a big impact on Australian gardeners and horticulturalists, motivating people to try and obtain these new edibles. It would be brilliant to visit South America and check out the incredible range of crops, not only in Peru but in places like Ecuador and Bolivia. I read on this Forum that you do quite a bit of travelling in search of unusual food plants. That must be very exciting! | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 24th January 2010 10:56am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Violet Cactus, I don't actually go travelling in search of unusual food plants (although I'd like to)my circumstances at the moment mean that I go to Japan with my husband (who has a Karate school) and go to Holland because I have elderly parents there and visit my sister in England on the way and am always on the lookout for unusual plants particularly food plants. It's also fascinating going on the trains and seeing all the vegetable allotments. It doesn't take much to amuse me does it? | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 24th January 2010 10:22pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Ogling vegetable allotments actually sounds like my idea of a good time! Some of those Japanese food plants enthrall me. I am currently making a collection of all the unusual ones I can find here in Australia, such as Gobo (Burdock Takinogawa Long), Citrus Yuzu, Yomogi (Artemisia princeps), Cogon Grass, Edible Chrysanthemum, Yamamomo etc. PS my grandfather was born in Friesland, though I've never been to that part of the world. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 26th January 2010 12:53am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mick says... Bought poutreia obovata in from Chile 20 years ago and then some more 10 years ago . I have had 3 fruits so far. Probably because I haven't watered at flowering time.There is or was one at Merbien Hort station which had fruit so cross pollination is not necesary. quarentine was no problem bringing them in.I also got a few seed fron Fruit Spirit but Paul is no longer selling seed,tho'you can book a tour of his property. If you look in the 'Lost Crops of the Incas'book there is a good chapter on the Lucuma. I have been told that there are two 'races'of lucuma.One eaten out of hand or atleast better to eat fresh and the other more for processing. I have tried mine fresh but prefer in a thick shake. A small round fruit like the one at Merbein. This is the fist time I have come across this forum,will try to keep up | About the Author Mick7 Adelaide hills 14th February 2010 12:26pm #UserID: 3376 Posts: 3 View All Mick7's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Mick, very interested to hear you have a lucuma growing in the Adelaide hills, is there any chance you would be generous enough to let me come and look at your trees one day? Maybe I could bring you something from my garden as a bribe? Violet Cactus, since you seem to be a genuine fruit nut, would you like one of my lucuma seedlings? | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 16th February 2010 11:03pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... u say Wongai Plum is growing wild in Cape York and Torres Strait Islands. A delicacy there. I say a delicacy only becuasse Ozzie bush fruits suck bad. wongai plum is middle range second class the reason ozzie native fruits are patrhetic quality is until humans no primates here hence no co-evolution to develop fruits for primates. same with PNG. to mind their best fruit and it is a good one is Pometia but after that diddly-squat = no primates | About the Author 6th March 2010 6:10am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anestor says... Hello, Fruitlist: I am Brazilian and I live in southern Brazil. I am passionate about fruit and would like to receive the seeds of this Pouteria. If you are interested in exchanging of seeds, you can see my albums of fruit in www.picasaweb.google.com.br/amezzomo2002 anestor.mezzomo@gamil.com Olá, Fruitlist: Eu sou brasileiro e moro no sul do Brasil. Sou apaixonado por frutas e gostaria de receber sementes dessa Pouteria. Se vocę tiver interesse no intercâmbio de sementes, podes ver os meus álbuns de frutas em www.picasaweb.google.com.br/amezzomo2002 | About the Author Anestor 23rd June 2010 4:54pm #UserID: 3844 Posts: 1 View All Anestor's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... seeing as you are in South America try this place in Ecuador i havent tried it but friends of mine have. They are legitimate, but with postage australia is a long way away. I will try for special things like Cupuacu later. maybe for you it will be much easier http://www.ecuadorexplorer.com/guaycuyacu/fruits_1.html Im always interested in south american trades myself so contact me if you like and we could swap Aussie and asian seeds for South americans! reville1@gmail.com thankyou | About the Author Rev North qld 8th July 2010 11:03pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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jenny says... Hi: I'm from Peru I feel so happy to see people that takes so much interest in one of our very own fruit: THE LUCUMA. I have not taste Lucuma for almost 23 years, but I went to Sidney 4 years ago and did buy the Lucuma Powder in a South America Shop , in Fairfield. Not as good as the fresh fruit but better than nothing. Back in Peru we used to eat the round one that's the edible and popular one, which is also shown in the video. Sean's picturre seems to be that of the round lucuma. Thanks. | About the Author 15th July 2010 4:58pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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ces says... Since you have been talking about getting seeds from south america, I have been trying to find ullucus tuberosus in Australia. I found out that they were available in Colac, Vic a few years ago but they do not have it anymore. Do you have any suggestions where I can get seeds from? I've heard that it was being tested in NZ. | About the Author 22nd September 2010 10:47pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I had ulluco from near Colac, I bought several varieties and had them all growing well but lost the battle against the slugs in the end and lost them all. I searched for years to get them in the first place and I think if they no longer have them, then finding them inside Australia maybe no longer possible. That's a pity because they had all sorts of crazy colours and varieties of them | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 23rd September 2010 12:18am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... You could ask them but I think maybe you don't want to know, or they don't want to tell you :). I'm sure a goverment research station somewhere would have some in any case since it's such a good potential crop (but maybe there would be resistance from the Potato growers). My Peruvian friend told me that in Peru Ulluco is where it's at and Potatos are second rate food for when you don't have Ulluco :) | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 25th September 2010 10:46pm #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... You can but I bet it's not easy, I got tubers at an extortionate price but since they are so rare I was happy to pay for them. I always planed to get more one time when I wasn't living in a slug infested backyard but seems like I left it a bit too late, they grew easy and well apart from getting eaten! :). I planted the Lucumo by the way :), it had started to grow again in the plastic house but since the scale were persisting I planted it. It's fixed now but I don't think it'll continue growing much until it warms up in late October. I've been digging weeds from around my trees so they aren't so messy for when you come over and I hit my Macadamias with some fertilzer, I read some stuff about phosphorus versus iron heavy soil and decided it was safe enough. I also bought a stretcher bed from aldi so I can sleep under the trees in between digging :0 instead of on the grass like I normally do, best thing I've bought in a while and will save on waking up cooked with lots of insect bites :) | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 26th September 2010 12:49am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hmmm, maybe we can make getting some Ulluco tubers/seeds our next project. By the way I've spoken to the guy and deferred getting the Rainbow cuttings until Nov. when you normally graft them down here. No the lucumo are just sort of sitting there at the moment, waiting to burst into growth (I hope). Don't worry too much about the place looking neat, I'll only see the trees, the stretcher sounds a good idea. Tell Annie hello and that Bulldozer is powering on , scoffing a whole bottle at one sitting now and up every night while we sleep playing havoc with his basket and blankets and looking cuter all the time. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 26th September 2010 7:46am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I told Annie he's doing well she's happy about that :), she might be getting her cardboard box ready to kidnap him right now :p. I found 3 peach/nectarine seedlings 1 apricot and 2 apples this morning while carefully transplanting a 10 foot cherry plum (with a chain and the tractor) and lots of grafting tape to put the bark back together afterwards :). All those were together in my seed germinating patch (that's also mums Camellia garden :p) but it works so well under them for growing stone fruit seeds I can't resist throwing them all there. It's not cold enough there to germinate a real cherry but everything else goes pretty good. I ran out of time digging the hole for the cherry plum before I had to go and get Annie for her break so I threw it in the kangaroos drinking pond for the moment. I'll plant it later when I take her back. I already found 8 or so pleach (red peach) seedlings and moved them the other day well I think one may have been a real peach or a nectarine and got mixed up so that will be an exciting suprise. I have more pleaches still to move too, they germinate under the tree all the time and I'm up to the 3rd generation now, they always grow pretty true to form too so they are good seedlings to re plant. So it's crazy times at the moment but I've got excited about growing seedlings now that a lot of my older ones are starting to flower so I figured I'd move all these before the mover or animals found them. Years ago I had lots more subtropical trees that slowly died out because there was no protection there, just a paddock so I've almost replanted all those spots with temperate fruit but I'm very close to being out of space for full sized trees now. That means next year all the seedlings that come up will have to go to visit you or some other people around here. I've been grafting seedling Avocados under my Hass tree into the main tree (some crazed multi tap root experiment of mine) and going to graft one good seedling Avocado I have over to Reed at the end of October so I should be all practiced up ready for the Rainbow sapote. I'm going on a secret air layering mission soon too (see picture). I have nooo clue where I can find room to plant one but I need the tree anyway. Ulluco might be almost an impossible mission now unless someone like Paul has it or some Peruvians living somewhere in Australia bought some from Colac and have kept it alive but we can only try
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Jason says... haha, it's right near your house!:) that's underneath one of the world famous to ficus experts but totally unknown where it actually is drik drik Lord Howe Island figs. You would never figure that's growing on the side of a road 40 degrees south latitude beside a dusty paddock, amazing line of trees and more impressive than most of the ficus in the Sydney botanic gardens. I could tell you a story about how to grow a house from one of those trees that I read in the depths of the internet about 15 years ago from some crazy scientist. I wanted to do it one day but I don't think I'd be able to complete it now, you would need quite a few decades. The idea was to take 100's, 1000s? of LHI fig cuttings and plant them around the outisde of the "room" then as they grow interweave them in a cross cross pattern until you have a dome shape. As they grow Ficus will self graft into each other and you keep removing anything growing inside the room. Once its grown enough to be solid you sand away the inner bark leaving only wood and then polish it so you have the criss cross patterned polished wood on the inside and a massive ficus tree on the outside (you also cut away the windows early on). Once you had a few feet thick of tree it would be a pretty strong house :). I guess you will be in the car first thing tomorrow morning to go and see that tree now :p | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 27th September 2010 12:12am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hey fruitist, I can't find the thread where you asked me about Denise and the lucumo. At the moment I have 2 varieties growing, Pouteria Nitida which I got from Limberlost just before they stopped grafting. I got 3 but my dear husband thought he would do me a favour and repotted one into a very rich potting mix without my knowledge and killed it(along with a few other plants he repotted). So now I have one growing in the ground and one in a pot. It's been hard to find any info on Pouteria Nitida (or Giant lucuma)Neal from Limberlost tells me that it is very similar to Obovata but the fruit is about 8 inches long instead of round. My Lucuma Obovatas came as seed from Denise, a very generous lady from NZ. I will email her to see if it is OK to give you her email address and I'm sure you will be able to swap something for some seeds. There was no trouble getting them through quarantine.Nine of my seeds germinated and I've given 4 away to other keen rare fruit growers in the hope of getting it more established in this country.There is still one left in a pot, so if you don't have any luck with getting seed maybe I could send it up to you. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 7th December 2010 10:52am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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fruitist says... Hi Janita, can u take a photo of the leaves of your P. nitida which you bought from Limberlost. I got mine from Limberlost too but not directly. I have a feeling that it is not P. Obovata. As for asking seeds from Denise, I will check if I can get them here in Australia first. This year my tree has 5 fruits. 3 are yellow 0.5 inch wide and 2.5 inch long; 2 are green 1 inch wide and 2.5 inch long. | About the Author 7th December 2010 3:05pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... IF we are talking the same thing my ulloco died out years ago...i suspect devoured by rodents...same problem with day lilies, dahlia, etc As for obovata I hve several trees. I imported a yummy large fruited selection from Hawaii. Fruit is up to 10 cm a-x. Still my favourite milkshake wish I'd known about P. nitida at Limberlost. I have grafted Ross Sapote (Pouteria sp.) from them. | About the Author Recher 23rd December 2010 7:00am #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi fruitist, sadly I am a dud with most things technical but will ask hubby if he will post some pictures for me. The P. nitida has longer pointier leaves than P. obovata. About the same shape as mango leaves, same veining arrangement but with bigger gaps between the veins, softer leaf than mango and lighter green and up to about 30 cm long. These are juvenile plants so the mature foliage might be a little different. You are also welcome to some cuttings when they get big enough. | About the Author Jantina Mt. Gambier S.A. 24th December 2010 9:35am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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says... Hi, about the lucuma, this site contains interesting information http://blog.standperu.com/?p=225 Lucuma is really a nice fruit. | About the Author Jos1 29th December 2010 7:12am #UserID: 4709 Posts: 1 View All Jos1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... It's known as "the butterscoth tree" in NZ. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Outdoor-garden-conservatory/Plants-pots/Other/auction-343561701.htm | About the Author J Upwey, Victoria 29th December 2010 9:55am #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... Just checked out her items. Interesting how many different varieties of avocado's they have over there. I'm searching for seeds online as I would like to have a few more lucumo trees. Your seedling is growing well Jantina, it's sprouting a set of leaves. I'm justing wondering if having a few more tree's might aid in cross pollination and greater fruit set. | About the Author J Upwey, Victoria 29th December 2010 11:34am #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... No Violet, the advertiser doesn't have it listed, but Butterscotch tree definately has a better ring to it than lucuma. Those new zealanders know how to rename their fruit! Incidently that tradme website is where I got the ruby red pepino seeds from. Hope the seedling I gave you is doing well. The vietnamese corriander you gave me has gone crazy and all the cuttings I've put into the ground have taken up like mad as well. The pineapple sage is doing well too. Thanks for those! | About the Author J Upwey, Victoria 29th December 2010 1:02pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana Q. says... Hello! I'm living in Portugal and I just came from my holidays in Chile some weeks ago. When I went to Valparaíso I had the great experience of tasting a Lúcuma. Unfortunatly on that day I didn't kept the seed and some days after I was looking for it but always with no success. It seems that the period for Lúcumas was not that, so it was impossible to find another. Then I return to Portugal but always thinking about planting a Lúcuma tree. Finally a friend just came from Chile and brought it to me after a very hard search! So now I have 3 Lúcuma seeds, Wichita means 3 opportunities! ;-) Does anyone of you guys can help me? I need to know when is the best time of the year for doing it. Is it during spring?.. Another question is about HOW exactly should I do it? I really need to do everything correct 'cause I don't want to waste my chances! ;-) Thank you!! Diana | About the Author Diana Q1 Portugal 7th January 2011 3:08pm #UserID: 4755 Posts: 1 View All Diana Q1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Diana,my seeds were very fresh out of the fruit (some were sprouting already). I received them late spring/early summer and potted them straightaway in well draining potting mix and kept them damp. Most took about 6 weeks to pop up but one took a year and I still have some where the seed is still green (the brown coat has come off)and plump but not shot yet. I'm sure that's not the only way to do it but that's what I did. Lots of luck. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 7th January 2011 10:45pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... plant immediately hump up, hilum down or place seed in sealed bag with enough SLIGHTLY moist (wet material and get an adult male to squeeze as hard as he can to get rid of as much water as possible) coco-peat or peat moss....enough to hide the seeds....keep in dark..like desk drawer...check every 3-4 days...plant once root emerges or you see sheel cracking along hilum | About the Author Recher 18th January 2011 12:31pm #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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recher says... back in the 80's limberlost sold several Pouteria but never obovata...obovata does not perform in lowland tropics...they did sell the infamous ross sapote Pouteria sp.....I've thought this nitida is what they are calling Ross sap.....I HOPE I AM wrong as I'd really like a p. nitida to add to the Pouteria collection....googling says next to nothing about nitida...at most it is syn to obovata but there is no earthly reason why limberlost would label nitida and not oovata...i'm a bit lost my self | About the Author Recher 18th January 2011 12:56pm #UserID: 3075 Posts: 71 View All Recher's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hey recher, my planted out Pouteria nitida is growing branches now (as opposed to the single trunk it started out with) so hopefully there will be grafting material available before I die of old age. When my nitidas arrived they were sublabelled with the common name of Giant Lucmo, nothing about Ross sapote. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 18th January 2011 1:04pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... I have a pouteria obovata that was imported by the NZ government that is more tropical in requirements than nearly all others of the species. The plant fruited in kaitaia (in the far north) and had very large fruit for the species.About 15cms accross. I have put it into a hothouse to try and get fruit. Normal varieties fruit well outside . Perhaps now I am the only one with this variety in NZ as the government destroyed all of thier plants.. We call superior lucuma fruit "elite" and the finest eating ones "silky". The scientists noted that most of the elite fruiting plants had multiple stems, making it easier to locate good trees in the seedling orchards in Peru.Much of thier orchards have mangos as well and also some lychees. | About the Author denise4 auckland nz 3rd February 2011 12:49pm #UserID: 1929 Posts: 73 View All denise4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... I have part of the scientists report of thier trip to Peru for collection of germplasm--all that relates to finding pouteria orchards.. It was for nearly 3 months in 1980. There was also a large worldwide collection I remember seeing, including so called hardy mangos from islands offshore from NW Africa. I was slipped cuttings of some things but not anything much valuable.The large fruited Pouteria obovata was probably the best, but more suitable for warmer climate.Some government staff hid away some plants when the cullers came to destroy the stock,though little remains. | About the Author 16th March 2011 5:08pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... CSIRO told me that a lot of their research is paid for by particular people (or companies) wanting research done for them. The last thing they are interested in is making sure valuable (to us fruit nuts) germplasm is available to the public, so if the research doesn't give them what THEY want, it's "off with their heads" and to hell with biodiversity. This happens in America too. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 17th March 2011 9:33am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... Hi Phil, The Report on a Visit to South America is probably only in the ESR library.(restricted entry) I have all that relates to the Lucuma orchards, about 5 pages.Probably no one else has it. I can send a copy to anyone interested in visiting Peru, as it is mainly about the whereabouts of the best orchards. It does not include actual postal addresses. The NZ govt had a special Biodiversity project some few years ago to provide marginal new crop plants for R&R for no cost to approved Tree Crop Assn members.It was mainly with obscure semi-useless chilean plants, few or none of the fancy kind of plants that we see as useful. | About the Author denise4 auckland nz 18th March 2011 11:10am #UserID: 1929 Posts: 73 View All denise4's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Roberto Peru says... My name is Roberto i,m from Peru living in central florida, is hot and rainny all summer, a month ago my mother bring me some seeds of lucuma and one of the m is groing about 10 cm. The litle pot is located in a sunny window and is groing well so far... how long it will take for this fruit tree to give fruit?... is the weather in central florida good for lucuma?... how cold it can handle in winter this fruit?..i love lucuma fruit and i cant wait to have some fruit to make lucuma ice cream...is delicioso! Thanx | About the Author Roberto Peru orlando, fl, usa 8th July 2011 9:59am #UserID: 5515 Posts: 1 View All Roberto Peru's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... In Florida it could start fruiting from 4 years old. There is no guarantee that the seedling fruit will be good size, flavor and volume of crop. It is good to plant a few from different sources to even the odds. If possible make sure you get seeds from a good quality tree. In Peru many orchards are mostly seedlings from a good tree and the results are usually acceptable | About the Author 19th August 2011 7:34am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... In Florida it could start fruiting from 4 years old. There is no guarantee that the seedling fruit will be good size, flavor and volume of crop. It is good to plant a few from different sources to even the odds. If possible make sure you get seeds from a good quality tree. In Peru many orchards are mostly seedlings from a good tree and the results are usually acceptable | About the Author 19th August 2011 7:35am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sony says... Thanks Denise, Please let me know if you can spare a seed or two for me . My tree is looking so-so...I can see a few buds for the first time(maybe 15) on the remaining three brances..the other branches died because of the bark damage (it's like half a tree survived) I don't know if you get fruit on the first flowering. I wanted to visit Paul Recher last week but I couldn't make it. Thanks.. | About the Author sony nsw 10th October 2011 11:58am #UserID: 5738 Posts: 16 View All sony's Edible Fruit Trees |
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loraine says... Hi again, For years I have been searching for a lucuma tree in Australia. I finally found one growing in a suburb of Sydney.. tree was looking ok, but it had not fruit for years. New owners of the house were not interested to keep the tree and after arduous work to organize manpower, we got the tree out of there and planted elsewhere in late July this year. So far still alive but if there is a sad loss, I would love to buy a couple of seeds if possible. Regards, nickynackies@gmail.com | About the Author Loraine 13th December 2011 3:00pm #UserID: 6237 Posts: 9 View All Loraine's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... I'm Peruvian and would love to grow some lucuma in Adelaide.I have some experience growing plants but none growing fruit trees. I email a nursery that some one suggested in this forum and they don't have the Peruvian variety only a similar one from Malasya I think. From some information I read in Peru,it seems that lucuma trees with out grafting have fruits in 4 years minimum and when you graft a growing tree with a 6 years tree with good size fruits, it can take only one year to have fruits. I was hopping someone in this forum can tell me where I can buy some scions in Australia? Here is the link where I found advice on how to grow lucuma, is in Spanish but as Jose recommended before you can use an online translation to have an idea. http://www.inia.gob.pe/boletin/bcit/boletin0004/cultivo_exp_santa_lucumo.htm doragonzalez@live.co.uk | About the Author Dora Adelaide 29th February 2012 12:05pm #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Dora, fruit? I wish! no my one remaining pouteria lucuma seedling is still quite small but very healthy and has been in the ground for two years(I lost 3 and shared the rest with other forum members). I have a pouteria nitida in our nursery area that is doing well (more than a metre high now) but I'm scared to plant it out in case I kill it. As for pictures, I'm a computer dud but it is on my "gunna" list. Good luck with your quest. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 2nd April 2012 11:42am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Don't lose hope Jantina!! I've been reading some more information about Lucuma and how to grow it. It seems that a Pouteria obovata tree can take 10 years to get the maximum capacity of production, which is between 200 to 500 fruits. I've found a person in Majorca-Spain, who has several Lucuma trees grown from seeds and it took him 12 years to have a decent production of fruit, about 300. The information about the genus Pouteria is confusing. Even Wikipedia has troubles getting an accurate information,they listed P.Lucuma and P. Obovata as two different species.... Here is the link if you feel curious http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pouteria I've found these other links with a few Pouterias with photographs that seem to be helpful in clarifying. They are in Spanish & Portuguese but you can still click the option to translate it. http://frutasraras.sites.uol.com.br/sapotaceae.htm http://www.fourlangwebprogram.com/fourlang/es/f_Pouteria_lucuma.html I'm still looking for a scion of an old vigorous lucuma tree in Australia. I guess Paul Recher is my only hope,but not sure if lucuma KONA, as he mentioned, is a P. Obovata. I may have to pay him a visit in Melbourne. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 15th June 2012 2:54pm #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Thanks for that Dora, there was a bloke who posted that he had a lucuma up in the Adelaide hills but he didn't want people coming round so nobody has sighted it yet. Good news John, I was sure it would be happy with you. Just checked the one I have in the ground this afternoon and it's looking good, just put out some new leaves. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 16th June 2012 5:41pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Finally some reliable information online from an experienced gardener! Juan Bibiloni is the best gardener of rare fruits I have seen online!! And the best of all is that he is willing to share his knowledge and achievements with everybody across the world. Have a look to his blog http://mundani-garden.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/lucumo-of-peru-gift-from-andes.html?m=0#links | About the Author Dora Adelaide 11th July 2012 10:58am #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Hi Mike, I have only just reconnected with the forum. I have a kilo of red bayberry seeds on the way from china. All fresh and have already been cold stratified. Jantina is getting some too. Maybe you could get some from her. Or I could give you the chinese contact details. Tomas is at Delray beach, Florida. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 1st August 2012 8:01pm #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Mike I will gladly send you some bayberry seeds when they arrive, especially since I haven't been able to send you anything else you want. I will also be sending some to all the usual suspects I exchange stuff with and if anyone else is keen let me know . Apparently 1kg is about 2000 seeds so plenty to share. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 2nd August 2012 11:49am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Loraine says... Hello, I have found that one of my best friend has a thriving and fruiting Lucuma tree in Katherine area NT... I was amazed that while my second visit to her NT farm, little did I knew that she had in her fruit farm a beautiful Lucuma tree!! I discover this while perusing and admiring her field of trees and I nearly fainted when I stumble on the Lucuma tree full of fruits!!! She said that she let the fruits fall and rot because in the early years when the fruit started none was interested in buying them at the markets where she sell her fruits and nursery plants. OMG!!! I have been looking for them in years and one of my best friend had them all these time!! she said that she bought them from a lady many years ago, she sold unusual fruit and she called this one "Sapote"... If anyone is interested i can contact her with your details. | About the Author Loraine australia 7th September 2012 8:35pm #UserID: 6237 Posts: 9 View All Loraine's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Hi Loraine, Is it white, black or yellow sapote? Here is a link with some good photos of sapote trees & fruit. http://mundani-garden.blogspot.com.au/2011/05/withe-black-yellow-sapotes-of-mexico.html?m=1 I've tasted yellow and white sapote, they are very yummy. Unfortunately they are not lucuma. Although flavour is quite different, flesh and texture of yellow sapote is slightly similar to lucuma. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 11th September 2012 11:34am #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Indeed Jason they are yummy, I had one about a year ago when up north. Where did you get yours? Don't think you saw my post but I have some myrica rubra seed for (fresh from China) you here in the fridge if you want it, let me know. Back on to lucumas, I have just received two Kona variety lucumas(plants) from a very kind forum member and I'm very excited about them. That makes 3 different sorts I have now.If we keep this up lucumas will be commonplace in 20 years time, hooray! | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 19th September 2012 8:48am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I don't even know about Myrica rubra ! I guess I could give it a go. I got some canistel from tropical fruit world, everyone was busy eating Custard apple so I went for the canistel and as you would expect from all good collectors all the bits I tasted were the parts surrounding the seeds lol. The Lucuma you gave me lost it's leaves this Winter, I think it's still alive but it's not happy, seems no where near as happy in the cool weather as the one I had 10 years ago and lost to Sunburn of all things, that one was a stronger grower in cool weather, pity I lost it. There must be a fair bit of variation in them. I reckon canistel would be just about the same as those lucumas in the cool. I've had a green sapote before and that lived for years and years without doing much growing, similar to what happens with everything that _almost_ has enough heat but not quite. I finally got around to planting that seed I cross pollinated with a stronger tree with my Chris sapote and it's germinating now, that's about the only exciting plant thing I've done this year, other than I have a couple of seedling Apricots flowering for the first time + one new capulin cherry + one Loquat seedling is fruiting too. | About the Author Jason Portland 20th September 2012 12:18pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... My Chris variety is absolutely hopeless. Last year it had three leaves, this year two, and going nowhere fast. If I could find a viable bud on it anywhere, I'd graft it onto my strong growing seedling. If anyone has a Chris that needs pruning and has the time to pop a few in the post they will be hansomely rewarded/swap?. Sorry for being so up front, but my Chris is frustrating me to no end. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 20th September 2012 3:18pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I have a couple of lucuma seeds that are supposed to be the best from spain.They will probably die in my climate but one sprouted enroute.I was told about the 2 basic forms that relate basically to uplands and lowlands with the upland types having silkier flesh and enjoying temperate climates.Unfortunately the upland seeds are what I received. | About the Author Cairns 20th September 2012 6:37pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... John MC, I have a branch of Chris grafted onto another tree for the purpose of scion collecting. I'll have a look at it tomorrow and see if it's in or near bud swell. It's always going to be weak growing compared to most sapotes but it does ok on a good rootstock, I get a foot a year from it or so, nothing amazing but it does grow. | About the Author Jason Portland 20th September 2012 9:07pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Yes, I might use what's left of the chris and graft it onto the nice strong 4yo seedling, which is shooting away nicely as we speak. Some rainbow scions showed up this morning which have been rind grafted onto it as well. Also did some buds via T section, we'll see how they go, the bark is slipping nicely. | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 20th September 2012 9:34pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Jason I need an address to send the seeds to, can't remember your Mums address. Did you get much frost over there this winter ? I have one lucuma from that batch that laughs at the cold. Violet Cactus tells me the one I gave her is chest height now so another good doer. I have a mango in the ground near the lucumo that was quite happy over winter too. My lucumo nitida doesn't really like the cold and looks a bit sad over winter but then picks up and is as tall as me now (I got that from Limberlost while they were still doing them about 4 years ago.) Wonder what happened to Loraine (above)? | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 21st September 2012 9:09am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Wow.. as tall as you and it's in the ground? if it's in the ground that's super impressive. I didn't get any frost, but my garden is just constantly cold day and night most of the year :). Violets in Melbourne? maybe she wants to try a Canistel, Melbourne is probably the warmest place in Victoria over a 24 hour average. Is your email still the same? | About the Author Jason Portland 21st September 2012 12:28pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I only have 2 seeds of the spanish lucuma.The person who sent them mis-understood 'don't send' as 'do send' and I specified the cold climate ones.They are kinda promised.On reflection I probably should not have refused asimina and cherimoya varieties but I don't have much accommodation for excess pots of seeds. | About the Author Cairns 21st September 2012 12:57pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... I was tempted to try canistel where I am but considering I just recently pulled my kensington mango out of the ground in favour of a meiwa kumquat, I think I've found my subtropical limit here in the dandenong ranges. My mango grew during the summer, died back in the winter then grew back and the cycle continued leaving it the same size. The Lucumo Jantina gave me is now in the ground, I don't think cold bothers that one, but the Kona lucuma I put in the ground near it earlier this month is getting browning leaves. I think those leaves will drop off but hopefully the kona should make a recovery and grow. If not I've got a few others in pots that I'll let grow to about a foot or two before I transplant them. Not sure If canistel is more or less cold tolerant than mango, but I'm not game to try it up the hills. Yet. | About the Author J upwey, Melbourne 21st September 2012 3:55pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... I was only being cheeky Mike,but you are so kind the temptation was too great, didn't really expect you to send me any seeds, however if your friend has any more I would happily pay him good money for some. That goes for any asimina or cherimoya seed too. Hope I don't sound too rude and pushy. Yes Jason, Violet is in Melb. I asked and she said she mainly gives it Seasol, it's in the ground now. My L. Nitida is in a pot out in the open where it was all winter, will put it in the ground this summer, it's had no fertilizer at all but it has been in excellent compost and had heaps of water. My email is still the same, please say hello to Annie for me. J, my Kona has a little bit of brown mottling on it's leaves too but still looks healthy as. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 21st September 2012 10:37pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Hi Jason, I ought to comment.... Yes! Lucuma is great. Its flavour is a unique experience I can only compare it with chocolate or coffee. But similarly to those two, I never eat it raw. Always in a milkshake or pie or sauce or the most popular, as an ice cream. You can buy here powdered Lucuma on ebay. I tried it, I mixed a lot of powder with cream milk and eat it as a cream with ice cream. It's isn't as good as fresh lucuma but it's ok. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 28th September 2012 7:57pm #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... My lucuma tree has some very nice tasting and texture fruit when production is in full swing in winter. A good one is good indeed to eat raw. A butterscotchy richness that melts. Sometimes a term in the deep freeze will improve it further. About a half or more of them are more suitable only for shakes etc. My tree is a top peruvian selection called Montalban. I sent seeds to various forum members but the crop has finished for this year. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 29th September 2012 5:45am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Hi Denise, Are you able to sell & send some scions to Australia? Please, please, let me know. I grew up and lived in Lima, Peru and for 35 years of mi life I knew only one type of lucuma.It is called lucuma de seda. I learned from my mother to dont eat it raw. I think it is like a tradition type of thing. Once I moved to Australia I read a bit more about this fruit and still can't find any other species different from lucuma de seda & lucuma de palo. I haven't heard or seen anything about Lucuma Kona or Lucuma Montalban. I think it is either another fruit or it is the same with a different name. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 29th September 2012 10:25am #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Hi Mike, In Peru Lucuma grows in Lima in the valley of Lurin, next to the ocean about 500m and also in andean valleys in Cusco, about 3,500m. So you can only give it a go and see what happens. Apparently it can tolerate -5 up to 35 degrees with out any problem. Some times Pouteria Campechiana, (yellow sapote or canistel) is called lucuma from the amazon. It deals better in warmer climates. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 29th September 2012 10:32am #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Hi Dora, Lucumas are notorious for their microclimate requirements. A tree that does well in one area will not be the best in another. Your best way is to grow a good number of seedlings to get some that will suit your area. That is how it is done in Peru. My trees are in a dense hedgerow with many other species so it is not suitable for getting a phytosanitary certificate that your Quarantine service would want. Our government grew a trial planting of hundreds of seedlings from elite plants. Many of them fruited at only four years old and were well suited to the area but performed differently elsewhere. (grown in fertile volcanic soil). I could send plenty of seeds at next harvest that could be 6 months away.You would probably describe the montalban as L de palo and I have another tree that is probably L de seda. Though the latter one called La Molina is a good producer in some places it does very poorly here. I have 2 other of the Lucuma obovata and they seem to not conform with the seda/palo descriptions. I think they vary more than that and also have many intermediate forms. An Equador one has very pale flesh. I have the Govts report on their expedition in search of lucuma in peru. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 29th September 2012 12:53pm #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... How fascinating Denise! I'd love to read that report plese.Will you be able to send it to my email please? doragonzalez@live dot co dot uk I know La Molina, is a university in Lima and they have collected some of the best varieties of different native species in Peru. They have a farm open to the public. I'll visit them next time I go to peru. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 30th September 2012 11:55pm #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Calling Jantina, Could you please send a copy of the Peru Lucuma expedition, to Dora, as I have misplaced my copy somewhere in my files. I read once of a Columbian Lucuma arguacoensium, It is very similar to our Lucuma obovata but has fruit 15cms diameter. It was growing in the mountain area in the national park near the Atlantic coast but hard to get to because of the danger of the local drug trading. I wonder if it is more accessible now. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 1st October 2012 7:39am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... The best lucumas are reputedly way better than any canistel,green sapote or mamey because they were domesticated and improved by the incas over a long period.The 4 seeded symbol of the inner lucuma is found in inca art and carvings. Dora I thought they were basically divided into 2 forms and varieties fall into either the warm or cool group.I just can't find a spot for it with others species cue jumping. | About the Author Cairns 1st October 2012 8:12pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jakeline from SA says... Hi, I am from Bolivia, Santa Cruz, which is sub-tropics and I used to eat lucuma every now and then while we had the tree in the back yard. I remember the tree being really big and always green, the fruit was one seed only, and the flesh was a weird texture, I used to compare it to egg yellow. I did not eat this fruit again as we normally take for granted of what we have. I have been living in SA for 12 years and have been going back home every 3 year, but I never get to see the fruit at the markets. My mother said that now there is not many lucuma trees in Santa Cruz and I am now really keen to buy a plant or even buy a seed so I can plant this here. If any one please could let me know where can I buy the egg sized, greenish and very thin skin, yellow flesh and one seed lucuma would be so much appreciated. Thanks Jakeline | About the Author Jakeline SA 19th October 2012 2:28am #UserID: 6553 Posts: 5 View All Jakeline's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Hi Jakeline, If you grow a lucuma tree from a seed, eventhough the mother tree has one seed fruit, you wouldn't know what you are going to have until you get some fruit. As a general practice, lucuma trees are grafted, like avocado trees. According to some Peruvian sources,in Peru there are two species and about 40 varieties. In fact some publications mention that there are more than 140 varieties and the difference can be in size, flesh colour, (from egg yellow to mild orange)taste and number of seeds. Originally it seems to be from the andes region, highlands, but today the Peruvian coast produces 88% of the total production in the world. I have seen lucuma with 1,2,3 and even 4 seeds. In my experience, fruit with fewer seeds have bigger seeds and the fruit is bigger too. | About the Author Dora Adelaide 20th October 2012 11:47pm #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Here's a page of tidbits on the Lucuma if anyone is interested. http://tropicalbonsainursery.net/on%20sale%20item/lucuma.html | About the Author JohnMc1 Warnervale NSW 23rd October 2012 7:52am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jaki Pullman says... Hi there, It is a great idea if I can get seeds from back home. I will contact customs to find out what I need to do and all the paper work I need to fill out. Jantina - I live in Hewett near Gawler. Sean- thanks for the great idea, as I never thought about bringing any seeds from back home as very scared with customs. I miss sooo many great fruits and veggies that can't find them any where in Australia. Been to Qld and great variety of food but still not close to like home. thanks, Jakeline | About the Author Jaki Pullman Hewett 9th November 2012 12:03am #UserID: 7399 Posts: 1 View All Jaki Pullman's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Hi Jaki, sorry I don't have any seed or plants to give away at the moment, however if any come my way I'll let you know. AQIS , now known as DAFF allow lucuma seed in Jaki,no problems and no paperwork either, just make sure that the seeds are sent cleaned entirely of any flesh and labelled clearly with their botanical name eg Pouteria Obovata and they will come through without any problems. They even make allowance tht some may sprout in the mail. I have Yacon and oca growing if you want some, just let me know as we are coming to Adelaide in a couple of weeks. Bel, you won't need to put your lucuma in a glasshouse in Geelong,(unless you live in some very frosty hollow) it should do fine out in the open. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 9th November 2012 7:59am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kaat says... Hi everyone, What a lovely forum over here! I'm working for the tropical lab in Belgium at the university. I just started 1 month ago with doing more research on Lucuma, because I think not much is known and it's still a crop with a lot of potential. I read the complete forum and I came up with some questions: @Denise: would it be possible to read the govts report as well? I saw you don't find the file anymore, but maybe Jantina or Dora who received the reports as well can send me the file? @Dora: you write often you read some information in publications. Where do you find those publications, because I don't find a lot of information? For example on October 20, 2012, you wrote about publications mentioning 140 varieties of Lucuma. Can I read that publication too? @Jantina: you often talk about information of CSIRO. Did you work for the CSIRO, or how do you know they did research on Lucuma? I just started with the literature review. I have never seen the plant in real life or even tasted the fruit.I'm first looking for the opportunities of this plant. Other members of this forum that can help me with information, I would like to see it. My emailaddress is kaat dot verzelen at ugent dot be Hopes to hear from you! Regards Kaat | About the Author Kaat Belgium 23rd May 2013 7:51pm #UserID: 8016 Posts: 2 View All Kaat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... Firstly I think that Lucuma obovata is a misleading name when the fruit sizes are globose to oblate. The variety Montalban can definitely be considered "ELITE", and "SILKY" for eating fresh. The tree was not always so. It took a number of years to gradually improve and would have been culled out by anyone else at an earlier stage. Seedlings grown by the NZ government were fruiting well at as little as 4 years old in fertile volcanic soil. My soil was still reasonable, but has a history of plants taking longer than reasonable to perform at peak. On studying the import and trialling new fruit species in Florida, California and New Zealand, it becomes clear that many new crops (for example -jaboticaba) required many successive imports until the seeds were able to grow well, after which they were succeeding. It seems that a very fertile volcanic soil can help these new imports but they may still require "HISTORY" to become part of the scenery. It seems that the Lucuma may come into that category and that there is a lesson here that we should not give up easily with new plants and to understand the HRQ, =History Requirement Factor. I have another variety called La Molina that has still not yet "SETTLED" | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 28th May 2013 11:46am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kaat says... Aha Mike, I didn't know the Brix index and my colleague was telling me about it this morning. What a coincidence that you can give me numbers about the seda and Palo variety. I also read an article this morning, mentioning line la Molina. Probably this line is promoted in Peru to farmers who are interested in cultivating lucuma, because it would have all the characteristics the industry wants. But focussing on 1 variety will destroy the nice existing biodiversity in Peru... | About the Author Kaat Belgium 28th May 2013 6:04pm #UserID: 8016 Posts: 2 View All Kaat's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... So far my La Molina fruit have been very small and hard and orange with fruit on the verge of being bad.I can see that they could be useful with a bit more settling and useful mainly for processing but time will tell. Just from looking at the various lucuma fruit in New Zealand I cant see any support yet for the Seda/palo typing. It may have come about from a corner person who has not had a fuller view of all Lucuma features throughout the range. Also our govt scientists spent months in Peru studying cherimoyas and Lucumas in the field and do not use the terms palo and seda.They collected only by merits from the most important growing area in Peru. an area of diversity and active breeding. Many orchards were actively bringing in seeds and plants from afar and propagating the better ones by grafting. Perhaps there are some old urban areas where there there is limited genepool that gave occasion for only two types being observed. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 29th May 2013 7:46am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dora says... Hi Kaat If you feel comfortable reading in Spanish, just go to google Peru and type lucuma or pouteria obovata. I read almost every article that I though was reliable. Unfortunately I do not keep a record of those. Last week I went to a presentation of Australian native orchids. It was said that the same variety can grow different leaves and flowers in different parts of Australia. I think something similar happens with Lucuma. I have had Lucuma since I was a child, and I didn't know there was more than 1 variety! At the markets in Peru I've only seen one type of Lucuma and that's Lucuma de Seda. You can find some descriptions here: In this one they mention 120 varieties http://www.mincetur.gob.pe/comercio/otros/penx/pdfs/Lucuma.pdf In this one 40 varieties http://www.agronegociosperu.org/tema/tem013.htmhttp://www.agronegociosperu.org/tema/tem013.htm If you can get your hands on that report, will you be so kind to share it with me please? Thank you Dora | About the Author Dora Adelaide 11th June 2013 8:35pm #UserID: 6636 Posts: 14 View All Dora's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike T says... I was told about the 2 basic lucuma types by a South American fruit collector who also said there are many varieties. He said there are several species getting called lucuma including in the lowland rainforest and in several countries.It sounds like they are phenotypically plastic as well just to confuse things. | About the Author Cairns 11th June 2013 9:16pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... Im in south america right now and while travelling up chile and bolivia I've been eating lots of lucuma icecream and products. All very yummy but i couldnt find the fruit itself. That changed yesterday when i landed in cusco, peru. The local fruit stalls at the market had plenty of lucuma fruit (& cherimoya). Tried it, flesh is very dry but edible, flavour starts like a sweet potatoe and ends like maple syrup. Pleasant maple syrup flavour in my mouth afterwards. I can see why lucuma would be great with milk, cream etc. Ive taken pics of the fruit but cant seem to upload it off my phone via the dayleys website | About the Author J upwey, victoria 13th July 2013 1:26am #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... There's a four metre tall lucuma tree next to the juice shop at machu pichu, peru. It had lotsa flowers on it and a few fruit too. The machu pichu garden in the middle of machu pichu itself had a smaller lucuma tree and two cherimoya trees. Just finished walking the inca trail, on day 1 we stopped at a couple of massive avocado loaded with avos. There were quite a few banana passionfruit vines as well. I have pics will put them up. | About the Author J upwey, victoria 18th July 2013 7:49am #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Marisol says... Can anyone tell me where in Victoria, I could buy Lucuma seeds or plant??. I would love to grow lucuma, lucuma although is a dry fruit ( not good for eating on its own) but it is delicious in icecream,for cakes or any desserts!!!!!!. I would die to eat lucuma icecream...... Yummy!!!!!! | About the Author Marisol Noble park Victoria 12th August 2013 4:58pm #UserID: 8149 Posts: 1 View All Marisol's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... A little off topic, but I must welcome back Paul, What a wonderful surprise, I hope you will drop in again and part with more of your wisdom. I'll never forget about that truncheon segment on GA, where you dug a deep hole and planted a very large tree branch, it looked like a strainer post, and treated it as a cutting. | About the Author JohnMc1 24th September 2013 7:42am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Which way up to plant Pouteria seeds? I just received some seeds in the mail which have sprouted during transit. They have a long tail like thread growing out of one end so I would like to know if this is the root to be planted downwards, or the leaf stem to be planted upwards. I think that with any seeds, the root usually comes out first and then the rest of the seed is pushed up from which the leaf shoot emerges. Please confirm if correct. Thanks. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 17th December 2013 6:12pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Paul W says... My Lucuma put flowers out the last couple of years, but only one or two each time and none set any fruit. This year there are about 30 or so, so I am very hopeful. I was disappointed though as the flowers would swell and reach a certain size before the petals would fall off. I thought that something must be eating them or pulling them off, but now I am starting to wonder if that is what is meant to happen, as it appears as though the petals seem to slip off before the flower fully opens. The base of the flower is still in tact so I wonder if these will develop and mature into fruit. You can see from the photo that the petal has pushed off and landed on the leaf. Does anyone have experience growing these and if so, does this sound normal?
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Jantina says... Fingers crossed Paul, it looks hopeful but I've never seen any actually fruit. The phone I had your contact No. on died some time ago and took all the info on it to the grave with it. Could you please send me your ph. no. again? I will be down for a few days at the end of the month and would love to finally have a look at your garden. jantinarohde at activ8 dot com dot au Did any of the seeds I sent you grow? Jason is that lucuma I gave you still alive? | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 4th March 2014 12:24pm #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Paul W says... Happy to send out any seed if they do end up setting fruit. Jantina, pretty much all of the bayberry seeds germinated (the giberelic acid seemed to do the trick) but I could not keep them alive for some reason. I think there is one sick looking plant left. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Ill email you with my details. Would be great to show you around the garden. | About the Author Paul W Warragul 4th March 2014 8:15pm #UserID: 7329 Posts: 20 View All Paul W's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Jantina, no it didn't ever grow at all :/ not even one leaf so annoying because I was looking after it better than any other tree I have but it just sat there and did nothing then died. I've since seen other things all around where I planted it dying, I lost a fig even! I'm blaming an oak tree, it seems to be creating an every increasing in size ring of death around it. Do Oak trees do that? it seems to be the case, even a Cherimoya quite a long way away is very much struggling now. I think this Lucuma Paul has is one Sean got from Peru or Ecuador in person right? so it's the real deal. It's taken sooooooooooo long to fruit, much patience needed:). I had one that I got from Greg W in Perth, some 14 years ago (dunno where he is in the world now?) Last heard he was in Innisfail but had a big car accident. Anyway that tree like his in Perth was powering along until I went to Mexico, actually when I came back I found it under a meter of grass and it was still powering along but then died in the following Winter.. At the moment I have a tiny Canistel in a pot from seed I got from tropical fruit worlds fruit tasting. But not holding out much hope for even being able to plant it out. I don't think it'll like the cool temps. Jantina are the Lucuma's growing at all in your garden? | About the Author Jason Portland 4th March 2014 11:28pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jantina says... Wow John , that looks great, maybe we'll have to look to you for more seeds in the future haha. Violet Cactus told me hers was doing well, up to 5ft! she has given it a lot of Seasol. What have you given yours John? The one I gave J was struggling last time I saw it but next to it he had another from seed sourced elsewhere, a variety called Kona that was doing quite well. He gave me one Kona type and it is also growing nicely here but still in a pot (I've killed several planting them out so a bit scared to do so.) The last time I saw the ones at Phil's place at Tyalgum they were doing nicely. I have one of the original lot left and planted out and it has coped with a lot and looking good but like you said Jason sooooooooooooo slow and after reading an article( I think you sent it to me) about lucuma sensitivity to fertilizers, it has had nothing.Sigh. Paul that email above is correct, mostly it bounces because people put the h in rohde in the wrong place or put an e after activ or put a dot after activ otherwise you could text me at o four one oo two four three eight five we don't have much reception here but it would come through next time I went to town. By the way everyone it is one of my dreams to go overseas and send back many many seeds from different trees to whoever wants to try them. The trip is in the pipeline, probably in a couple of years and I will post for requests before leaving. | About the Author Jantina Mt Gambier 6th March 2014 9:41am #UserID: 1351 Posts: 1272 View All Jantina's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Oh well at least I'm not the only one that has killed on Jantina, that makes me feel a little better oddly :). I think there's a big variation in Lucumas, in both what soil they like and what climate they can deal with. It wasn't me that told you about the fertiliser, I didn't know but you told me that when you gave it to me. I reckon they would take some anyway, there's a difference between what is true in a plants natural zone and what is true in more poor soil and cooler temps. Usually the cooler it is the more fertiliser you can use. | About the Author Jason Portland 7th March 2014 6:53pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... I have had no trouble growing Lucumas in South east of Melbourne - both types both the Kona and the normal variety. They seem to be more cold tolerant than other Pouterias like Ross Sapote, both were growing side by side outdoors but the Ross sapote nearly died last winter while the Lucumas remained healthy and bushy in the same soil and conditions. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 7th March 2014 8:15pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sean says... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pUyTe-mFPO8 I don't understand Spanish but if you watch until about 1min 20 seconds through the clip he demonstrates growing them from a cutting. | About the Author sean Traralgon 18th March 2014 1:56am #UserID: 6927 Posts: 26 View All sean's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Lucuma seeds can be gotten from South America where they are very common provided you can find someone to send them to you. I sometimes get them sent when I am ordering something from over there and have grown the Lucuma plants in the pictures from South American seeds. Still a long time to go before I will see any fruit though.
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Linton says... I have not had any sent since earlier this year as I now have a couple of types of Lucumas growing and don't need any more plants. The Bolivian ones in the pictures produce green fruits , even when ripe. The seeds are available most of the year from South America, the main problem with them being sent is that they tend to germinate during transit. So if the transit time is too long they will die in the packet after germinating. It's hard to predict how long they will take to arrive from there, can be just a few weeks or up to more than 6 months! If you need anything further just let me know. Cheers! | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 23rd October 2014 11:48am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Hi Troy the seller in Peru has been around for awhile and I believe they are reliable and supply genuine seeds. However the seeds are quite large and the biggest problem will be getting them to pass through customs on arrival. I don't think they are allowed to be sent to WA so perhaps you should make sure about that first. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 24th October 2014 9:50am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott says... Hi Mark they are just half way through filling yet so be ready in the summer. They fall to the ground when theyre ripe. Probably perform better further south my semms to humid here, always has deadwood on it. Got a few more trees there if you want any (see picture) regards Scott
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Scott says... Got a reasonable amount of Poshte seedlings still available @ $15 each plus postage but they are still reasonably small but healthy for mid winter. For fruiting i would say a wet summer plus regular potassium sulphate plus chicken manure pellets with the extra bits and pieces added to it seems to work alright here at Beerwah. Had a big crop end of last year yumm! Ill try and attach pics when i get time | About the Author Scott Beerwah 17th July 2016 11:12am #UserID: 7526 Posts: 27 View All Scott's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott says... Yes David there are some more there drop me an email with your address and how many u would like and ill get back to u with a price plus postage. Paul u could try potassium sulphate and a chicken manure based fert with extras added seems to work alright we have good soil here but still need extra potash | About the Author Scott Beerwah 17th July 2016 1:36pm #UserID: 7526 Posts: 27 View All Scott's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... I planted a clifford variety right next to a big gum in the backyard 5 years ago. the clifford is 8 foot tall now and slowly enveloping the gum. it set fruit heavily two years ago and I just recently harvested the pods. Got about a kilo of pods, unfortunately i left them on the tree too long because most them were rotting on the inside. maybe a mite got in them? who knows. next batch of pods is setting now. Back to the Lucuma discusssion: thanks to linton I've got 3 varieties of lucuma growing. The ones in pots that I put under cover during winter are a lot bigger than the one in the ground, but the one in the ground gets through winter fine. will these guys ever set fruit in melbourne? who knows but they seem to grow fine if not slowly. | About the Author J upwey, victoria 7th September 2016 2:48pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Elric says... Hi all, I'm after 1 or 2 Lúcuma fruits for the 26th of Jan 2017. Part of a wedding anniversary gift for my wife who is from Peru and misses the fruit a lot! I'm hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction or share some that you have grown. Not sure when they fruit or if possible but would be amazing if so. Obviously happy to pay :) but they seem to be difficult to find! | About the Author Elric Ngunnawal 26th December 2016 12:14am #UserID: 15260 Posts: 3 View All Elric's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott says... Hi Elric I do have a few Lucuma fruits on my tree at the moment not sure when they will ripen they make up there own mind as you know. Im not at home at the momement but will check when i get back home If you want a small Lucuma tree i do sell them on ebay for $35 plus postage Ill check the tree when i get home. Sorry one of these photos doesnt apply couldnt delete it. Regards Scott
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Markmelb says... Hi Scott - interested to know more about the really nice ?Canistel? I think - is it a seedling or grafted CV? Your Lucuma seedlings doing well but they didnt like 36c so had to give a drink & put in dark shade for the newish flush to pump back up from limping off - older leaves were ok. | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 28th December 2016 7:55am #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Elric says... Hi Scott, that would be amazing. I notice you are a fair way from me so not sure how to organise it. I know the fruit will keep for about 2 weeks. Will try and serve you a private message to organise it. Also would love a tree but not sure it would survive in a Canberra climate. Might be too cold come winter but could give it a go. | About the Author Elric Ngunnawal 28th December 2016 12:08pm #UserID: 15260 Posts: 3 View All Elric's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Scott says... First up hi Mark good to hear your Lucuma is surviving it has been a tough spring/early summer here to just wish we could get an inch or more rain be nice. My Canistel is really nice just a seedling but flavour near perfect for a Canistel not dry and mealy not sloppy but just right not a big fruit but real yummy. Let us know if u want one ay Hi Elric yeah hope the ripening will line up with your anniversary thats the only thing just let u know early what happens ay Maybe might be a bit cold during July and August in Canberra you could throw acover over it while small once taller and older it would be stronger they seem to b qite cold tolerant. Just let me know there are a few trees left there Regards Scott | About the Author Scott Beerwah 28th December 2016 6:12pm #UserID: 7526 Posts: 27 View All Scott's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... I think this has already been answered that the tree in picture no. 2 is a Canistel. Sadly I cannot grow them here as with Lucumas, as it is too dry and I expect that you have good rainfall where you are which seems to be an essential prerequisite for them to be successful. However I am growing both Canistel and Lucuma in pots so they can receive some water but they really don't seem well suited to pot culture and eventually will probably become too large to stay in them if they are to remain healthy and fruitful. So it's better if I focus on more drought hardy species that suit my conditions. Cheers! | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 5th January 2017 12:46pm #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... So I'm now trying to grow some Chanar trees from South America which are also known as Lucuma spinosa as they are much more drought proof. Chanar is Geoffroea decorticans and can grow in the desert. But the fruit is nothing like the real Lucuma as it is not related. You can see what they look like on the picture below. The Chanar trees also produce pods with an edible pulp that's like caramel fudge. The seedlings I am growing are different colours, one is green and another is white - don't know why that is, it's very strange!
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Peter91 says... Hey Linton just for the record I think you'd be fine with growing a lucuma out of a pot, as long as you give it some shade cloth during summer and high UV days. Mine grow fine here in SA as long as I water them but they absolutely hate high UV and will burn without protection. The one that absolutely will not work for me here is the Ross sapote, it just can't handle winter and dies. | About the Author Peter91 NORTH PLYMPTON,5037,SA 8th March 2019 9:20am #UserID: 11892 Posts: 111 View All Peter91's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Hi Peter91 how you going? Thanks for your comments. I have one Lucuma planted in the ground but it doesn't do very well and is not healthy, hardly any leaves left. Like you say it needs to be watered but the soil is very dry and it's difficult to get the water to penetrate. On the other hand, I have another 2m Lucuma in a large root pruning grow bag for several years which is placed in exposed full sun and it remains very bushy and lush, never burns. I too failed with Ross Sapote and I think that Mark is the only person who is successfully growing Ross Sapote in Melbourne. Cheers! | About the Author Linton NOBLE PARK,3174,VIC 13th March 2019 9:09am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Markmelb says... Hi Peter ~ I'm using Surround Kaolin clay powder mixed in water and sprayed on Lucuma like they do for Citrus in Mildura as a Sunblock ~ looks terrible but eventually washes off from rains but allows Lucuma to take high UV - Lucuma is behind mango in foreground. Quite ghostly but it works and insulates in winter also. | About the Author Markmelb MOUNT WAVERLEY,3149,VIC 31st December 2019 4:32pm #UserID: 7785 Posts: 1192 View All Markmelb's Edible Fruit Trees |
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