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Peter Allen starts with ... I have had so much sucess growing Babaco up here in Olinda where it snows at least Once a year, that I had to make wine from the fruit. Being a permaculture designer we just made a suitable micoclimate and they have never looked back. Note: it takes longer to ripen fruti so it is nessisary to have two leading branches down here.
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Correy says... Hi Jan, Daleys does sell the Babaco - Carica pentagona You will need to go to the Babaco Page and click email me when available and we will notify you as soon as they are ready. They definitely look like a relative of the paw paw, they also do well in pots. All the fruits are seedless and the one I got from daleys is a grafted babaco. Here are some links about the babaco you might like to look at http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/plant/Babaco.htm | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba 29th June 2007 10:40pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter Allen says... Hi to Kath, this Babaco gets full Eastern aspect as we are on the east of the Melb ranges, it would be OK to the north but North East is probably the best aspect, the west would be too hot. to Jan, It is a Hybrid mountain pawpaw species, see "The complete book of fruit groing in Australia" by Loius Glowinski P: 277 this book is excellent for all sorts of fruit from all climates and is simple to read with good detail. to Correy, It will flower and fruit in one season in the sub tropics but here it has flowers and green fruit in Summer/ Autumn then from Sept to Dec they ripen, while the next set start growing above this lot. This means you dont get to cut down the tree to a stump for it to shoot again (if you do you lose a years fruit) so I run two branches and cut them alt years to get fruit every year. | About the Author Peter Allen 30th June 2007 9:02am #UserID: 132 Posts: 1 View All Peter Allen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kath says... "The babaco is thought to originate from a hybrid of two mountain or highland pawpaw species Carica pubescens and Carica stipulata, it has been cultivated in Ecuador since before the arrival of Europeans. Because there are only female babacos it does not produce seeds, it cannot be improved using conventional breeding techniques and it does not require cross pollination." from Susanna Lyle's book - Discovering Fruit and Nuts. Peter - We will be recommend a North eastern aspect to our southern customers for their babacos from now on. | About the Author Kath Cawongla 2nd July 2007 2:49pm #UserID: 2 Posts: 363 View All Kath's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tran says... Hi Peter, I have a fruiting Babaco in pot and it is getting quite big for the pot. In winter I cover the root with plastic sheets and almost all the leaves dropped except the fruits. I wonder if yours (soo beautiful) are on the ground. If so, please tell me if a special location that I should follow. I have a book from Dr Loius Glowinski Many thanks Tran | About the Author Clayton 10th August 2007 1:22pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... Hi Tran mine are in built up beds made of bluestone to store heat and give good drainage ( we get snow here yearly so they are under lazer lite)they have lost all their leaves for now with big frosts and 2 days snow but they will recover well and ripen sept- dec here in Olinda. if you wish to plant it out i suggest put it against the house or a wall and face east or Nth east so its protected from cold wind/rain and frost, it will like good drainage so wath if you have sticky clay in Clayton ( you may have to build it up) or buy a wine barrel, but hey if it fruits now your going OK already, the next thing is to cut it off so it shoots out again, this is why I keep 2 branches cos you sacrifice those green fruit before they ripen down our way. I have been told you can use the green fruit to cook with such as in a curry to replace green paw paw but i have not tried it yet as they look as interesting as a choko. hey also make lousy wine but a nice spirit. cheers peter PS Louis book is great and so is he. | About the Author Peter the permie Olinda 10th August 2007 7:44pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... Well I am proud to say I have tasted my first babaco. The first bite was nothing like I expected perhaps because I expected it to taste like a paw paw. It certainly isn't sweet however the cultured taste almost like a good glass of wine starts making a great impression on you. If you give them a bit of a chill in the fridge before eating them they are amazing. There is a lot of juice in each one. My babaco is nearing it's second year and has 3 babacos forming on it.... I can't wait. | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba, QLD 27th October 2007 5:58pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... Hi Correy, yes there is a suprise if you thing you ae about to bite into a nice red pawpaw, the babaco has an acid taste ( like tamarillo) I suggest you eat it when it still has some green tinges on the edges and its quite firm, other wise we enjoy it teamed with the fleah of a mango as the compliment each other perfectly, just top & Tail the babaco and shove in the blender even with banana and some orange juice, we also freeze this mix for later in plastic cups. I have made wine , it smells like a fruit elexia cask wine but tastes very dry ( not my prefered style of wine) another one was wwe sent it to a freind who makes organic icecream and sorbets, the babaco's sharp aciddity is cut by the milk in icecream it's sensational. why do you think I'm giving you recipes, well wait till next year we had so many fruit(even after 2 snows we ahd to make recipes)about 20-30 @ 1kg per plant. they also freeze whole for later juicing. so enjoy peter | About the Author Peter the permie Olinda 27th October 2007 7:20pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... Our Babaco has it rock bottom. Before we re-potted it the leaves were turning yellow and falling off then when we took it out of the pot we noticed that the root had a white fungus around it. Now all the leaves have fallen off and we cut the top off it to see if it was dead. I have got 3 pictures for you to see? Does anyone have any advise or knowledge about what has happened?
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Scott G says... I grew (or rather tried to grow) a Babaco here on The Gold Coast and I failed. I didnt have it in a pot so I couldn't control its watering too much. At first I had it planted on a raised bed of normal soil (here clay loam) in full sun. It didn't like the heat and dropped its leaves. Then I replanted it under the bananas for some shade and cool. The soil there was damper and very high in organic matter. It began to recover then its roots rotted. I transplanted the side shoots in various places and some of them took root. Then we had a rainy period and they rotted too. Correy: are you sure you are right when you said "the one I got from daleys is a grafted babaco"? Do you mean it is/was on a pawpaw rootstock? A grafted babaco on a pawpaw rootstock might be the answer to my problems. | About the Author Scott G Gold Coast 8th January 2008 9:44am #UserID: 44 Posts: 117 View All Scott G's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... Yes my babaco is grafted onto Papayuelo rootstock. If you have a look at these comments on the babaco page you will notice that drainage is number one priority. It was my fault because when I first planted the babaco I was just starting out and didn't know the joys of selecting a good quality potting mix. Now that it has been re-potted it looks like it is getting some great regrowth see picture 1.
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Larry says... Hi Correy, What you have is root rot. When you have moist conditions with not much sunlight a white fungis appears. They will go up the minor cappileries in your root system and slowly kill your plant. Symptoms are leaves yellowing and/or lower leaves slowly dying and falling off. The only cure is to repot your plant with different potting mix and pot. If wish to reuse the original pot you will have to clean it with bleach. Prevention is always better than the cure, make sure you have excellent drainage at the base of your pot and don't over water in winter. | About the Author Larry perth 27th May 2008 5:39pm #UserID: 970 Posts: 9 View All Larry's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Kate says... hi there, I have bought 2 babaco trees from daleys nursery. planted them both at the same time. One is near the fence protected by a gardenia tree and pepino bush and is doing nicely and has 2 tiny fuit on it and nearly a metre high. the other one though is about 6 foot away and is only half the size. It is more exposed though to the elements, does anyone have any ideas, does anyone companion plant? | About the Author katesbabacoandpepinoplants1 Wollongong 18th June 2008 6:17pm #UserID: 609 Posts: 4 View All katesbabacoandpepinoplants1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jeff says... I planted a Babaco tree from Daleys about 10 months ago. Since then it has grown from about 30cm to over 2 metres, and has heaps of fruit on it (about 20). However, for some reason, the fruit do not seem to be ripening. The largest ones have been sitting apparently dormant for about 4 months, with no change in size or colour. The tree is still growing and making more new fruit. Any ideas? | About the Author Jeff2 Brisbane 8th July 2008 10:10am #UserID: 1142 Posts: 1 View All Jeff2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Anonymous says... Dont worry ... mine did the same. the fact is making more new growth and fruit is a good sign. It should ripen up in Spring. Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author Wollongong 8th July 2008 4:16pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter the permie says... Hi I sell all my fruit at the farmers markets here in melb from Sept to next aopril as they ripen , I dont get to eat any now as they all go ( annd so do the trees I propogate as its dead easy) cheers peter www.petethepermie.com | About the Author Peter the permie monbulk vic 30th August 2008 6:25pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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clarence says... Hi guys, I am trying to get my hands on a babaco plant since I first saw it in the Royal Botanical Gardens last week. I thought it was a paw paw tree but was really fascinated when I was told it was babaco. Does anyone have any cuttings to sell or know a nursery in Melbourne where these plants could be obtained ? Please email me at yapc@bigfoot.com if you could assist. Thank you for your assistance. | About the Author clarence Melbourne 7th October 2008 9:52pm #UserID: 1489 Posts: 1 View All clarence's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Manda - Joyce (from Boya) offered on another thread to swap some babaco cuttings, so she might alternatively be willing to sell some: https://www.daleysfruit.com.au/forum/dragon-fruit/?PHPSESSID=649da1b2ad68e6053826ef724e865b40 | About the Author Liz Thornlie (Perth) WA 3rd May 2009 12:26am #UserID: 1639 Posts: 36 View All Liz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Anyone living in the Sydney area and wishing to buy Babaco plants - There is a nusery just outside Trash and Treasure ( turn left when exiting )in Casula that was selling them for $25 . I bought two from them and they were around 45 - 60 cm tall and just over a year now and look how tall and how many fruits I have from them already.It is seasonal and if I remember it correctly they were restocking it around August - October ( Sorry I don't recall the name of the nusery ) The small babaco in the orange pot was a purchase from Daleys and frutied in no time at all after purchase.
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Michael says... Hi Julie, I didn't do anything special to my babaco apart from putting it into a 55cm pot with premium potting mix bought from bunnings. I added half a kilo of chicken liver into the pot at the beggining and added a layer of mushroom compost at the top. I water it once a week and just a few months later tiny fruits started appearing. I don't think my fruiting babaco was due to any special technique but more to the suitability of the weather and how much sun it gets. Of the two I bought from the same nusery one fruited in 2 months and the other a year later. The earlier frutied plant was in full sun all day while the other one was in part shade . So from two plants bought at the same nursery and being potted with the same potting mix and watering patterns ,one fruited in 2 months and the other frutied a year later with the only difference being the amount of sunlight each plant recieves . Not sure if this was helpful or not ? | About the Author Michael Wakeley 11th June 2009 1:41pm #UserID: 1746 Posts: 178 View All Michael's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Michael - did u use chicken LIVERS? How did they go in a pot? Did it get all smelly n rotten at all? I am really curious about it!? I would never have thought of putting offal in a pot..there was a lady on the forum recently asking about putting her placenta in a pot too? Info could b of help to her. | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 11th June 2009 10:05pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Years ago it used to be recommended to put an oxheart or liver under passionfruit. My thinking was it was an old-fashioned country idea - offal was probably easily available and free or cheap. It's not any longer, and I feel sure using a handful of blood and bone would do the same thing, but cheaper.Any thoughts on this? | About the Author Roleystone WA 14th June 2009 6:21pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Julie - that's probly quite true about offal! Liver is full of iron also. Any organics that you can add to your soil is worthwhile. It's illegal to collect roadkill if it's a native spp but for the rest ok. I pass loads of rabbit roadkill - one day i will get motivated to chuck it in the back the truck for fertiliser! Bury it deep n put branches on top to stop dogs digging it up - works for me. I am also going to approach my local dog groomers n hairdressers for all the hair n stick in my compost...pure nitrogen for free. Saves $ and recycles. | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 17th June 2009 1:13am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Hi Julie - it's mentioned in one of my many books - haven't confirmed it for myself. I know the dead turtles on the beach in Carnarvon were not allowed to be touched either (we worked in fishing industry there) many people tempted to take the shell. I guess it would be open to abuse by poachers for skins etc. It's illegal to collect many things (depending on where u live): wildflowers, seaweed, bush plants/seeds, etc | About the Author amanda19 geraldton.WA 18th June 2009 9:39am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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TheCastle says... We search Babaco or champagne fruit - Carica pentagona, we want to buy it, this is our dream of several years, we investigate this plant for our mini-botanical garden: http://www.sarafovo.net/zamakat/bulgaria/garden.html We would be very glad if you help us with something, we are ready to pay the required price, we wait eagerly your reply. We are interested in other exotic fruits too such as Sapodilla. Sincerely, Ani Gencheva | About the Author TheCastle Bulgaria, Burgas 28th June 2009 7:56pm #UserID: 2505 Posts: 5 View All TheCastle's Edible Fruit Trees |
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juanita says... Hi castle, You can also get babaco from daley's fruit for the same price...I guess postage can be quite expensive for oversea clients? http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm Good luck | About the Author 1st July 2009 12:21am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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TheCastle says... Hi, Juanita. We heartily thank you for rapid response. We recently wrote to them on this site, but they didnt have babako and maybe not possible to send for oversea. So we are looking for other ways. It is only one place on earth where you can buy babako? Our hope is that someone at home keeping babako will read our request and we will buy it from him. The price of the plant plus the cost of transport. Is this plant located somewhere in Europe? | About the Author TheCastle Bulgaria, Burgas 5th July 2009 7:42pm #UserID: 2505 Posts: 5 View All TheCastle's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... hi Castle , I reckon Juanita is on the money there. Try searching these for poeple in Europe with them and go from there. http://growingontheedge.net/viewforum.php?f=2 http://www.cloudforest.com/ | About the Author Nth Vic. 7th July 2009 12:24pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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TheCastle says... Thank you, friends, you are great, thanks for responsiveness. So, my job is really hopeless. I'm goofy entusiasit. I'm sending you a link to see my mini-botanical garden, which is made in our modest bulgarian options, but I made it for a long 20 years period of work and much fantasy. http://zamakat.com/flash-gallery/ http://zamakat.com/bulgaria/garden.html http://zamakat.com/bulgaria/page4.html I hope you like it. I will make the attempts for the guidelines that you gave, but if you hear anything, write me to my e-mail: zamakat@yahoo.com Oh, I forgot to tell you, that I discovered sometime before Babaco of auction in e-bay, and the price was reached about $ 60, but remained 10 hours to the end of the auction and couldn't get a registration. And so i missed it, it's sold. Now there isn't any of it. ;( | About the Author TheCastle Bulgaria, Burgas 10th July 2009 8:57pm #UserID: 2505 Posts: 5 View All TheCastle's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Liz says... Hi everyone - interesting comments on offal and chicken livers and placentas... long, long ago (well, in the 1970's...) a nurse that I know used to bring placentas home from the hospital and use them to fertilise the roses... they grew really well! ...as Julie alluded, blood and bone is pretty much the same - just processed! ...and I guess which is more expensive depends on circumstances - if you're on a farm, growing chooks or come across lots of roadkill, roadkill or butchering scraps would be cheaper than blood and bone... I think Bill Mollison used to talk about mulching cats, too... Happy gardening... :-) Liz | About the Author Liz Thornlie (Perth) WA 13th July 2009 10:42pm #UserID: 1639 Posts: 36 View All Liz's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Liz- interesting comments! I was always tempted to pilfer the blood donations that got binned due to use-by-date being up - for the garden. Possibly gross thought, I know, by why waste a totally useful and clinically tested "clean" product? Many blood donations don't get used - I donate blood and would (personally) like to know it was put to good use rather than in landfill? | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton.WA 17th July 2009 12:49am #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Yeah, Ive used dead amimals before, and i know a guy who would collect the dogs and cats from the pound who'd had the 'Green Dream' and he'd bury them and plant trees on them. he's now got a beautiful food forest. Were often slaugtering sheep for food and the leftovers come in really handy for adding nutrient to the soil. This weekend were doing a big pig! Hmmm ...salami, prociutto, and REAL bacon. and the left overs (not a real lot) to grow an apple tree for sauce for a pig two yrs from now. The cycles of life, death, life....;-) | About the Author Speedy Swan Hill, Vic 17th July 2009 10:51am #UserID: 2305 Posts: 250 View All Speedy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... Wow speedy - is that home grown pork? Friends of ours had a mangoe farm and two pigs that got fed all the surplus mangoes for months b4 slaughter...the meat was beautiful, tender and "fruity"..(true!). I have have always been keen on marketing roo proscuitto - I tried it once - it was really good! | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton.WA 19th July 2009 12:50pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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amanda says... MMMnnn..bet those ribs were good too! and no post-weaning systemic wasting syndrome..he he!..Thanks for pics - I'm looking forward to having a cupla breeder sows of my own one day! Please let me know how u do the proscuitto one day? ..i researched on internet ages ago but it seemed a bit full-on the traditional way (for our climate)I thought it would go off. | About the Author amanda19 Geraldton. WA 22nd July 2009 7:25pm #UserID: 2309 Posts: 4607 View All amanda19's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Speedy says... Back on topic... cuttings is the traditional propagation method, though grafting and micropropagation can be done, they're more recent methods. Take cuttings say, about 10 times as long as thick (eg. 2cm dia x 20cm long). Leave to dry and heal the cut ends. You can paint the cut ends with potassium permanganate solution (enough to make water red-purple) as fungicide before drying, but not essential. put gently into coarse sandy potting mix without breaking sealed cut ie. don't just shove them in, rather, make hole, insert cutting, backfill/ firm down and water. water once and once only as they're very sensetive to rotting. Avoid getting the top of cutting wet unnecesarily. stem cutting that is - tips, no worries do them in late winter-spring. they dont like too hot or too cold, around 25degC is optimum. closer to winter if further north. oh yeah, just thought I'd replace the pig pic with the orginal babaco pic.
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Julie2 says... Ive recently moved from new zealand to brisbane,Australia.25 odd years ago i remember my godmother having a babaco tree in her yard,the fruit was devine.Years have gone by and ive never seen any for sale in n.z and apon going to visit my childhood town the plant had since been dug up and got rid of.I always thought it was weird never seeing anymore plants or fruit available in n.z.Ijust put it down to being a magical plant my godmother had.. Can you get them in Brisbane?if so where?We are in Banyo about 10 minutes from the Brisbane Airport. | About the Author Julie2 new zealand 31st July 2009 2:55pm #UserID: 2602 Posts: 1 View All Julie2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Correy says... Julie2, They certainly are a bit of a rare fruit. Which is probably why you won't get many in bunnings and typical garden centers. They are very popular at Daleys I just had a look at the figures for this year and so far we have sold 99 of them. We added 10 to the website on the 29th of July 09 and they were all purchased within 24 hours. We Send them out to people by mail order. May I suggest that you put your email address down at this page so you can get a sms or email next time we have some ready. Babaco or Champagne Fruit In my household only 2 of us like them. The others don't. I like how they aren't too sweet and when they are chilled they have a great texture. As long as you don't get any of the pulp in your mouth of course. | About the Author Correy Woolloongabba, QLD 31st July 2009 6:38pm #UserID: 3 Posts: 493 View All Correy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter the permie says... Hi Speedy thanks for reinstating the pic I put up 2 years ago, since then I have produced probably 50 plants from my original 2 by using the method described by you. we have also been selling the fruit when we have excess at farmers markets from Sept to March in Melb. we have also experimented with these acid fruit, we made wine & snapps but some of our favourite recipes are to make, sorbet, organic Icecream (the milk cut the acid well)smoothy's with a mango or banana. but the best seems to be to 1/4 them lengthways and place in a pan with a little water and 2 spoons of demara sugar and bake on 180c for 1/2 hour. my wife will eat a whole fruit for brekkie with yogurt this way. cheers and enjoy pete the permie | About the Author Peter the permie monbulk vic 8th August 2009 10:26pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Hi Peter, My Babaco plant is growing in a pot with nice green fruits on them . My problem is that they have stop growing in size and have been green for almost a year now. Tiny fruits keep growing on top but the bottom ones don't turn yellow at all. When should I expect the fruit to turn yellow ?
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HappyEarth says... Agreed - Ive lost three babacos to wet feet - you must give them excellant drainage or keep them in a pot. Hi Michael - the fruits take about a year to fully ripen and will ripen up for you in spring. BTW, does anyone have any cuttings they are willing to swap for something? I have Miracle fruit at the moment? Rich www.happyearth.com.au | About the Author HappyEarth Wollongong 10th August 2009 7:02am #UserID: 2553 Posts: 181 View All HappyEarth's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, It looks to me that your babaco has wet feet. I think it will collapse at that point. You can test it by slight press that bit with your fingers and see it is firm like other part of the trunk or not. If not then it will collapse. If that is the case then chop the green part the still ok and cut into 20cm in length and let it dry up for a week then try to regrow them in propagating sand. Water only once a month untill the weather get warmer. BTW, it looks to me that your soil is a bit clay so please test by making a hole and pour a bit of water in the hole and see how long it disappear? I think you may have to mould your soil to have the best drainage. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 10th August 2009 8:24am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Yes Nguyet 2ocm of top soil there is clay like but below is well drain soil, the thing was when I put the tree down, I thought since it a shalow root tree, just to give it a push, I'll plant it down further a bit,,,man,,,disaster . Yes, the fibrous side of the trunk is quite soft while the other half is still very sturdy . This propagating sand , should I mix the sand with anything or just plain sand will do ? | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 10th August 2009 9:35am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Ellen, Babaco can't stand clay soil unless you apply claybreaker to your soil. If I was you, I would either plant in pot or make a mould, apply clay breaker then grow on the ground. Potting mix or washed sand or sand mix with potting mix will do. I did plant a skinny trunk in a pot in June last year in moist potting mix with no watering at all and 3 months later it had root on it. It was in my laundry room. The tree is one year old now. I believe when you built your house the bulldoze did turn your soil a bit upside down so the clay soil on top of the normal soil. Please do not put all cuttings in one pot just in case the rotten bit may spread to the rest. The important bit is to keep the medium moist but not wet. If your top 20 cm is clay you may want to apply claybreaker to your garden because most trees don't like wet feet in general. BTW, I am not sure about your blueberry trees whether you should apply claybreaker to surrounding area of the trees because they like acid soil and from my memory claybreaker may increase PH but bluberry trees hate wet feet too. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE Melbourne 10th August 2009 9:59am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tabs says... Does anybody have a Mountain Paw Paw (Carica Pubescens)? This is one of the parents of the Babaco. I have a female with loads of flowers but no male to pollinate it. By the way, my 3yo Babaco was really loaded this last year, so much so, that it fell over with the weight. Some of the fruit was huge, about 14" long and too large to get my hands around it. It took three people to lift it up and stake it in place. Its still doing fine with fruit left over from last autumn. It faces north, planted in the ground. We have clay soils here but I have put plenty of organic matter into it. It does however, sit 2 feet away from a steppe as we are on sloping ground and it has been really dry these last few years. It also has a fence protecting it from the westerlies. | About the Author Tabs Beverly Hills 11th September 2009 12:31am #UserID: 1115 Posts: 19 View All Tabs's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... I have a mountain paw paw I grew from seed. Quite disappointed in the fruit though - it comes all at once and doesn't keep well. Mine had a slightly bitter aftertaste. I believe there are named varieties that are better. I haven't watered mine for the last couple of summers, so no fruit! | About the Author Roleystone WA 11th September 2009 6:21pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tabs says... Hi Ellen The last three of these pictures are of the female mountain pawpaw with stacks of flowers and the other one is my babaco with the last of last seasons fruit, it seems to supply fruit continuously throughout the year.
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Ellen says... Thank You Tabs, your babaco's look superb . Just a thought. Since you don't have a male mountain paw paw plant (flowers) to set off the female mountain paw paw (flowers), have you tried experimenting with using babaco's flowers in hand pollinating it ? Who knows it could turn out to be a very good experimentation and give you something else really good too . | About the Author Ellen Smithfield 12th September 2009 1:38pm #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Julie says... Oohps! My mistake. Looking through my books, what I have is papaw (Asimona triloba), native to North America. I've had it so long I had forgotten! Mountain Pawpaw, according to 'The Illustrated Book of Food Plants' is Carica condamarcensis. 'It has similiar but smaller fruits (to Papaya) which need to be cooked before eating or may be made into jam; its virtue is that it can be grown at higher altitudes in the tropics than the papaya'. So what you have Ellen looks to me like a normal papaya - commonly, but incorrectly, called pawpaw. Papaw, pawpaw, papaya - it's confusing, isn't it? | About the Author Roleystone WA 12th September 2009 4:13pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Today I was contacted by Dayleys telling me that they now have babacos in stock & of course I was elated, but hell when I went to order " WA quarantine does not allow import of babacos" met my eyes. I just cannot understand this because "Diggers" (when they have babacos in stock) can send them to WA! If you read " Grass Roots' mag No 176 page 16 " Tantalising Babaco" you will understand my frustration because I am the author of that article, & as a result I was able to send babaco cuttings to many customers around Aust..( They travel very well as tip & stem cuttings when about 16cm & the ends allowed to dry off for a day before dispatch in AP blister envelopes. Early budding cuttings were the most successful) Of course when I moved to WA 6 months ago I had to leave my babacos behind. I never thought for a moment there would be quarantine problems with a fruit that CAN ONLY be grown from cuttings!! It just doesnt add up !! Anyone who can help please contact me on magixan05@yahoo.com.au cheers Dave | About the Author Sth West WA 22nd September 2009 10:37pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Wayne says... The following notice seems to appear on every Nursery site that I have visited of late -- "Because of recently introduced Quarantine requirements we are no longer able to send any seeds to WA customers" -- regardless of what you want to buy. I have been wondering about how you guys are getting on over there, seems pretty stupid to me. | About the Author Wayne Mackay QLD 23rd September 2009 8:08am #UserID: 338 Posts: 908 View All Wayne's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jimmy says... babaco is allowed entry, www.agric.wa.gov.au/quarantine. small shipments under 20 plants are exempt from the spraying requirements but all others apply. | About the Author Jimmy 23rd September 2009 11:14am #UserID: 2548 Posts: 511 View All Jimmy's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Thanks Jimmy, but i cant find babaco anywhere in that site. I tried Quarantine & alpha index sections. If you could order some I would happily pay you as would many others in WA. You would make a killing, mate! I am also interested in apricots !! Cheers Dave
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Damian says... Tried my first home grown babaco yesterday. Found it rather sour and tangy. It wasn't unpleasent but not nice to eat either. I did read it's known to have a different taste to papaya, i didn't expect it to be "sour". The fruit was totally yellow and fragrant. The smell was sweet and nice, but the taste was an unpleasent surprise. Is this normal or perhaps the quality of my fruit is poor? | About the Author Damian1 Melbourne 1st December 2009 9:41am #UserID: 1184 Posts: 2 View All Damian1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says... Hi Damian, Yes, It is normal taste of babaco. It is a beautiful tropical tree but average tasting fruit for some. I would slice them up and sprinkle with sugar and leave it overnight and serve as fruit salad. You could stir fry the green fruit with chicken or beef slices or make curry with it. | About the Author JUJUBE FOR SALE 1st December 2009 10:10am #UserID: 2706 Posts: 715 View All JUJUBE FOR SALE's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... I agree with Damian. I had high expectations for this fruit but find it below par. It tastes sour and soapy to me. Also the pepino is in this category for me. The taste is like an unripe cucumber to me rather than a honey dew.Unfortunately these are two of my most productive plants in the garden. | About the Author Michael Wakeley 1st December 2009 1:27pm #UserID: 1746 Posts: 178 View All Michael's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Diana says... Hi Michael and Damian, I agree about the babaco. I bought a few tropical and subtropical fruits that I hadn't tried at tropical fruit world, before I bought the plants. I'm glad I tried the babaco before I bought one, because I didn't like it. YThe same goes for canistel. I initially thought the same about the pepino, before I discovered eventually that I had been picking them too soon. They have to be really super-ripe and yellow all over, then they will taste sweet (assuming that climate allows where you are- e.g. pawpaws in Melbourne are never really sweet). I do have quite a few plants in my garden that I have never found for sale, and bought because of the description of their taste, though. I read a posting on the kei apple page recently that someone has pulled theirs up because it tasted horrible (the description is like apricots). On the other hand, some people don't like Atherton raspberries, and I love mine. Does anyone else have an example of something they thought would taste good based on the description, but actually it does not? | About the Author Brisbane 1st December 2009 5:15pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Peter the permie says... Hi guys , yes the Babaco is an acid fruit more like the Tamarillo, but we have found it very good when used in both Icecream (the milk cuts the acid) and in sorbet,. but the best way to use them has to be Baked- slice a whole fruit longways into 1/4's and place in dish with a touch of juice ( apple) and sprinkle with Demara sugar bake at 150-180C for 1/2 hour my wife eats a whole fruit for breaky like this with yogurt. my worst experience was making wine ( I had so many fruit here after the snow in the hills above Melbourne) it smelt like a "Tropicana cask" from the 70's but tasted of a very dry white wine, I only drink red (whites for cleaning the BBQ) cheers peter PS: I have people line up to buy fruit on my stall at the weekends so I turn mine in to cash to spend on more trees to increase our 1000 vars we grow now. | About the Author Peter the permie monbulk vic 5th December 2009 6:37pm #UserID: 119 Posts: 14 View All Peter the permie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet Cactus says... If you think babaco is tasteless, think again! I got a recipe from a South American. They love babaco over there. You just cut it up and stew it with a tiny squeeze of lemon juice, a good helping of sugar and enough cinnamon for your personal taste. I do a variation on this recipe with powdered cardamom instead of cinnamon and it tastes heavenly. You can eat it warm or cold. You don;t have to add water before stewing because babacos are so juicy. I also make babaco jam and babaco marmalade. Delicious! And they grow SO EASILY off cuttings that off my original tree (which took 2 years to fruit, as they all do) I now have six more trees and I could easily take more cuttings. I am giving away babaco trees to friends and relatives while the mother tree is still producing heaps of fruit. This tree is one of the best plants I have ever bought. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 9th December 2009 1:36am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet Cactus says... PS We also had the that experience with pepino, of tasting it before it was ripe, before we knew what to look for. It tasted like bland cucumber and we were not impressed. Later we found one on the plant that had turned golden all over and it tasted TOTALLY different. It was a sweet, juicy, honeylike flavour, and we wished the rest would ripen in a hurry so we could eat more of this scrumptious fruit. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 9th December 2009 1:40am #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Hi Michael Do you know that Indian Chilli Plant that I gave you last winter ? And you said that it had died . Well you have to nurture it, in winter it is only going dormant, occasionally you still need to water it, to keep the root system going. Anyway, mine have just been trimmed, and another plant had just sprung up as well in the other pot. Do you still want to give it another go Michael ? | About the Author Ellen Fairfield 10th December 2009 5:04am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Michael says... Hi Ellen, My star fruit is still small I think to have fruits. It put out some flowers last year but I pinched it all off. I've attached pictures of it over the winter and how it looks now. I'm also trying to grow ambarella and soursop. The amberella is in the ground and is looking very healthy. The soursop is in a large pot and is putting out new growth. Also the jujube that I got from Nguyet has produced some small fruits . The tree is very small but I'm excited about the fruits so I'm leaving it on .If the tree get's bigger and the fruits are tasty then I'm going to plant it into the ground.
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josh says... hi everyone i recently bought a babaco and planted it in a pot that had an inbuilt water reservoir. the soil was a mix of potting mix and compost. I dont think it was able to drain properly because within a week of planting the roots had completley rotted off. Ive divided the stem into 3 sections which i am planing to pot up with the hope of salvaging something from my mistake. Ill replant them in a different type of pot. anyone else had this sort of thing happen to them? | About the Author J1 sydney 23rd December 2009 12:16pm #UserID: 2949 Posts: 15 View All J1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet Cactus says... The one thing babaco hates most of all is wet feet. They love good drainage. Just grow them in the ground, is my recommendation. Mine are growing like they're on steroids. I now have six plants in the ground, all starting with one tree. Dip your cuttings in rooting hormone and just put them in normal pots until they get roots and big enough to plant out. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 27th December 2009 8:19pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Gardener says... Hi Violet Cactus We have a Babaco, fruiting in its first year and already it is getting very tall. Has about 10 fruit on it (not ripe as yet) and is about 180 cm tall. We have never cut the stem at all and were wondering where we cut the Babaco trunk? Could you advise? Thanks in advance. | About the Author Gardener Montrose, Vic 26th February 2010 9:50am #UserID: 2268 Posts: 34 View All Gardener's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... Hi Gardener, To begin with, just lop off the top of the tree. Take a cutting approx. 7 to 8 inches long. You will have to chop some of the leaves and buds off the cutting. Make sure the lower part of the stem is free of leaves and buds, and just leave a couple of small, young leaves at the top. I usually dip the end of the cutting in a little rooting hormone, then dibble a hole in some good quality potting mix in a large pot, insert the cutting, press the soil firmly around the stem then water it in with seaweed solution. Keep the water up to the pot; don't let the soil dry out, but don't get it water-logged either. Your mother tree will begin to form side-shoots as a result of this head-chopping. She will, over time, form side-shoots all up and down her trunk. Each side-shoot can be cut off when it grows long enough, and potted up with rooting hormone as described, and made into a new tree. When the baby trees have grown large and strong they can be planted in the garden. This is a good way to stop your Babaco from becoming top-heavy with fruit and just keeling over. "The tree can grow to about 6 feet high, and as the trunk is rather long and thin, with fruit growing in clusters towards the top, it can topple easily in high winds. In addition, the babaco fruit itself is quite heavy, and weaker branches may break off if too many fruits accumulate at one site." | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 26th February 2010 9:13pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... BABACO RECIPES (from the Internet): Harvesting the Fruit "The fruit should be harvested at the first sign of yellowing. It will ripen off the plant and has a long shelf-life, keeping for up to a month. The fruit is ripe and ready to eat when it is uniformly yellow." "Babaco is best appreciated when cooked with a little sugar, as it is a bit bland when raw. Dulce de babaco, an easy recipe using just three ingredients, is one of the most popular ways Ecuadorians enjoy this papaya-like fruit." Babaco in Syrup (Dulce de babaco) Ingredients: * 1 whole babaco, peeled and cubed * 1 – 1 ½ cup white sugar * 2 cups water * 1 stick of cinnamon * 2 tbs orange juice (optional) Procedure: 1. Put all of the ingredients in a large Dutch oven and let boil on medium heat for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. 2. Remove the cinnamon stick and let cool. 3. Serve cool or cold. Refrigerate any unused portions for up to five days. Serve as a delicious topping for ice cream, or plain as a simple, refreshing dessert after a large meal. Note: Our favourite by far is the above recipe, substituting cardamom instead of cinnamon, and leaving out the orange juice. Babaco Juice Babaco juice is also common in Ecuador, since it is very economical (the plant can produce from 25 to 100 fruits a year). Procedure 1. Put ½ babaco fruit, cut and peeled, in a blender with 4 cups of water. 2. Add 1 cup of white sugar (adjust amount if necessary) and blend until smooth. Serve immediately. Babaco in Lemon Juice Although Ecuadorians tend to eat babaco cooked, it may also be eaten raw. This recipe can be whipped up in less than five minutes, no cooking involved. Ingredients * 1 babaco fruit, peeled and cubed (remove any seeds) * 3 small limes (key lime is best) * 1 ½ cups white sugar Procedure 1. Squeeze the lime juice over the cut babaco. Stir in sugar. 2. Let rest for a couple of hours and then serve at room temperature. Pie filling Babaco can be substituted for half of any fruit portion in a fruit pie. It pairs well with apples and strawberries. Because it is very tender and juicy, it releases more water than apples as it bakes, so adding a little bit more cornstarch to the recipe can help counteract this. | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 26th February 2010 9:21pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Violet_Cactus says... John, Babaco fruits take up to two years to ripen. With our first tree we couldn't believe how long it took and thought there must be something wrong. Now we're used to it. Melbourne winters never bother them at all. Up there in NSW you should have no problems whatsoever during the cooler months. Yes Jujube, they are nice trees of John's! Gardener, I have also made Babaco Jam and Babaco marmalade, using the usual recipes plus lemon peel and lemon juice to add pectin. Delicious! | About the Author VioletCactus1 Melbourne 27th February 2010 9:35pm #UserID: 516 Posts: 349 View All VioletCactus1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... Because they flower and start fruiting from the top of the plant they can get top heavy and break.Once they reach 1.8 meters angle cut the stem down at 50 to 75cms.Wash all sap off the cut to avoid rot and watch out for snails that chew into the cut.Days before taking cuttings,cut the leafstalks 5cms out from the stem and leave them to shrivel off and the stem heals and avoids rot that would destroy cuttings. Also after taking cuttings-let the wound dry a coupla days to harden up before growing. | About the Author 3rd March 2010 8:23am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... From memory, Daley's graft their Babaco's onto another rootstock. I have a spare Babaco from Daley's and I can see a thickening of the trunk just above ground level, before it thins into the main trunk. Sooo, just for fun, I've cut the Babaco so I have only the rootstock above ground. It will be interesting to see what sprouts from this rootstock, if anything. I bought 7 or 8 Babaco's from a nursery closing down last winter. I think the nurseryman thought they were all frost bitten. There was only the trunk left. I knew better. He let me have them all for $5 each. Some that were really bad he gave them to me for free. Woohoo, their all going great guns now. | About the Author John Mc1 Warnervale NSW 5th March 2010 8:50pm #UserID: 3373 Posts: 72 View All John Mc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Right here mate. It looks like stock is low but they're comming in all the time. http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/fruit%20pages/babaco.htm | About the Author John Mc 23rd March 2010 9:30am #UserID: 3496 Posts: 132 View All John Mc's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I says... Herman, I got mine from diggers. They won't be available until May. You can try their website ( www.diggersgardenclub.com.au/pc-1365-25-babaco-champagne-fruit.aspx ) or drop into Heronswood in Dromana. | About the Author JohnI Melbourne 23rd March 2010 9:39am #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... Thanks mate they have arrived and are enjoying their new home! thanks heaps yes babaco is a sterile hybrid however... glowinski says that when grown near one of its relatives they can get a few seeds i have C pubescens seed which is i believe the pollen parent of babaco hence my comments on back cross | About the Author Rev north qld 21st June 2010 10:24pm #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... You're welcome Rev, enjoy them mate. It looks like my immediate climate is quite good for Babaco. They are large and ripening up inside 12 months of planting out from a pot. They taste very good indeed. I can see now why they call it the champagne fruit, and sweet enough for my liking too, highly recommended. | About the Author John Mc 22nd June 2010 2:12pm #UserID: 3496 Posts: 132 View All John Mc's Edible Fruit Trees |
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CrazyFisherwomanRye says... Hi all, An elderly man I know feeds his Babaco plant dried cow manure (available in bags)and his has produced heaps of large fruit. I've got two which are thriving under tea trees by the coast and enjoy filtered sunlight, the second year not as prolific as first year and they are in black sandy soil. I will try the cow manure and see how they go. Amazing tree with one fruit every leaf, and the possums haven't taken a liking to them YET! I've found when the fruit were very yellow they tasted over ripe and not pleasant, almost off. I've tried them with green and yellow tinge much better for my taste. Also I believe the skin is used as a meat tenderiser in Asian cuisine also used on the face to soften the skin. So many uses for this Babaco which is my pride and joy. I now just need to get my Goji berry plants to fruit as they are a few years old now and nothing except healthy growth. | About the Author CrazyFisherwomanRye Rye 4th July 2010 11:20am #UserID: 3897 Posts: 1 View All CrazyFisherwomanRye's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I prefer to leave babaco's on until the drop, then leave them ripen until they are 100% yellow and making a good fragrance. I haven't found anyone that doesn't like to eat them yet so that's a good sign. Once I read that in the tropics when growing red papaya a good soil recipe calls for 20-30% manure so clearly they can take bulk nitrogen. I have a male Carica quercifolia and pubescens growing very close to babaco and never had a seeded fruit. Grafting them seems to be the way to go, to get them to produce seeds under influence from the rootstock, Ben in NZ has wrote some interesting stuff about this before is you search it up | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 5th July 2010 3:03am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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epiphany says... I'm wondering when the best time to prune out the top of my babaco would be? My tree is about as tall as I am - 5'3"...almost a year old (I put it in last winter...it was only about 10cm tall) & laden with fruit (hopefully should all ripen this Nov-Dec). It's also just one straight trunk - no side shoots. Should I be cutting the top off to encourage side shoots? And if so, when would be the best time...now? It's still flowering & setting fruit even though it's the middle of winter & we've had a few frosts already (although the babaco may have been protected enough that it didn't get hit - not sure). Thanks for any advice. | About the Author epiphany2 Melbourne 6th July 2010 2:06am #UserID: 703 Posts: 84 View All epiphany2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Are you sure its a babaco Denise? Babacos typically grow their fruit in the leaf axil close to the trunk & because of this are seen never in bunches. Even if the tree was allowed to do its thing without pruning the fruit would progressively get a lot smaller & still be growing up the stems in the same manner. Could you post a photo of your tree please? | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/ Busso smack in the middle 12th July 2010 1:22pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob says... Hey Jason, My family is in Portland too. I am wondering if next time you prune your Babaco if i could attempt to grow some from your cuttings? Should probably ask if growing from cuttings is possible first. I am trying to get a fruit forest going on a budget...not easy. Let me know what you think, Cheers. | About the Author Rob10 Torquay 20th July 2010 10:01pm #UserID: 3961 Posts: 24 View All Rob10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Ellen says... Hi Rob in Torquay, YES you can grow Babaco from cutting(S). last summer my babaco took off pretty well,but when we had those heat waves, i fed it with pools of water every 3 days, which ended up having roots rot, and fallen down. I took it and cut off the rotting end of it. With the remaining trunk, i dipped the bottom end into the root acting propagation powder.then i planted them in a pot and i sticked the pot in an area with plenty of light during the day but sunlight doesn't get through. As i dont want heat there. I only water it once a week. Now after 4 months it has rooted now, i am waiting for spring to put them back inground. | About the Author Ellen 21st July 2010 2:38am #UserID: 1339 Posts: 309 View All Ellen's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Rob, I haven't done anything with my babacos for several years but this Spring I need to cut them back and make some cuttings so I can start fresh, I started with one plant but I guess I have 5 old worn out ones at the moment :). I'll see how I go but if I don't have any disaster I should be able to give you a plant in Summer. Taking cuttings from them is the only way to grow them since they are a infertile/self fertile oddity without seed :). If you want to grow a fruit forest for free, keep an eye out for Apricot/Peach/Plum/anything prunus seed this summer and grow as many rootstock as you can, then go around and find yourself some scions that are hanging over fences from the notable trees you found earlier on :). Also you might find Loquat seed and cuttings from Fejoia's and things like that. I'm sure you can do several hundred trees for next to zero money pretty easy if you put your mind to it. I mean things like apples, dead easy to grow hundreds of them for cheap. But it might be better to buy commercial rootstocks from an apple grower in that case though since they are fairly big and aggressive grafted onto seedlings but at least with apples you can easily get hundreds of scions every time someone prunes their trees and they are very easy to graft. Avocados are harder to graft but I'm sure if you grow 20 seed you'll definitely get one grafted tree going, if you get lucky maybe 10-15, but in general if you have acres to fill, just plant every seed you can get your hands on | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 21st July 2010 4:46am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob says... That would be great Jason. Keep in contact when you get there. Rstock@ripcurl.com.au When i said fruit forest i should have mentioned "urban" ha ha not acres. Already have a few apples, peaches, nectarines, limes, lemon, feijoas, blueberries, pepino, black sapote, white sapote, loquat, longan, guava, banana and regular passionfruit as well as a mulberry but they are all still quite small. We should be able to get a Portland fruit swap going in about 5 years or so ha ha. Next on the list is avacado, kaffir lime, babaco and might even try for some bananas! Thanks for the advice, will keep my eyes open on walks. Rob | About the Author Rob10 Torquay 21st July 2010 6:25pm #UserID: 3961 Posts: 24 View All Rob10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... It took me 8 years to find a source for them, then finally came along this website. You'll pay a lot for a tiny tiny plant but sometimes you just have to do these things. http://www.backyardbananas.com.au/order.html Sometimes a company called coolbananas sell bananas into nurserys and bunnings, but not all the variety's they sell are in fact cool tolerant. They do however sell the full size ducasse and that goes good :) | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 26th July 2010 8:52pm #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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allybanana says... No worries rob i will email, The wind damage is okay tree will poke its head up from were its having a snooze come spring, we have another two big plants anyway. We also have a Mountain Papaya (Vasconcellea pubescens) hermaphridite it is over 20 years old and about 1 m across at the base it is more cold hardy than babaco no die back with cold winter winds like babaco. but the fruits are smaller and less juicy ok but not brilliant flavour we had a better flavoured female but it died does any one else have else have this variety. | About the Author Eden 27th July 2010 11:06pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... allybanana, I have one plant of pubescens, it's about 5 years old I guess, it flowers male most of the time, then once in a while flowers female which catches a few remaining male flowers and pollinates itself. Then flowers all male again :0 crazy plant. I can't eat the fruit though, deadly stuff. Sometimes I've seen those growing in the most unlikely of gardens in the most unlikely of towns among totally normal gardens, go figure? I don't know where these people find them | About the Author Jason10 Portland, Vic 28th July 2010 6:27am #UserID: 3853 Posts: 218 View All Jason10's Edible Fruit Trees |
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allybanana says... This is great, the internet is such a handy tool my email is allydalton.sculpture@gmail.com yes i have lots of shoots of Babaco i am wondering if it would be best to wrap them in wet paper then in a bag or just in bag to let the cut dry a bit and seal to reduce rot as i have found they rot if overwatered. I plan to go up postoffice monday and do some plant posting. No worries Andy send adress to email i will post you a couple of shoots, there is no shortage. Tabs this sounds like a great swap hermaphrodite for female shoots i have a couple big ones spare that have flowers and lots of little shoots i will give them a bit of stalk. I would like to swap a few pieces if you have the wood and try stiking them in a couple of different places as i am not always sucessfull with them. This tree is a favorite whith my little brother when he visits he eats the pulp around the seeds. | About the Author Eden 4th August 2010 4:04pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tabs says... Allybanana, I haven't struck cuttings from Mountain Pawpaw before, have taken some pictures to show you what is available and maybe some advice as to whether it needs to be lopped at the top? The first picture is a bit confusing as it is in front of an ordinary paw paw tree (looking very forlorn from the cold winter temps here in Sydney). The Mountain Pawpaw has only one main stem and maybe a bit top heavy? It has only just started to shoot again and most shoots are only 3-4inches long with plenty of female flowers growing up and down the trunk. If you like I can grow them a bit longer. Let me know.
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allybanana says... I am no expert a stiking them i have had mixed success before overwatering and rot i think is my biggest problem . I am not even sure of the best time to strike in southern Australia. Yes a couple of those little branches would be great take them as high in the tree as possible as its probably a good ideaa to save low branches if you do plan to cut off the top. As for cutting off the top i dont do it mysealf but it seems to work for some. | About the Author Eden 8th August 2010 6:53pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Tabs says... allybanana How about I strike them first then send them on when they're growing? I suspect that they would be better struck in spring when they start to shoot. Save you some postage and grief. Most paw paws need to dry out before you put them in soil. That's what I did with the Babaco. Two cuttings died and one is now growing well. Giving it to my Doc 'cause he fell in love with the fruit - chops them up and eats them straight. Makes my tongue curl just thinking about it. | About the Author Tabs 8th August 2010 11:29pm #UserID: 1115 Posts: 19 View All Tabs's Edible Fruit Trees |
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allybanana says... Thanks Tabs your warmer climate would probably be better than mine for striking at the moment. I will strike a couple of hermaphrodites to swap, i could send herm. with flowerring male now if you want to try setting fruit. but if babaco makes your toungh curl mountain paw paw is likly to twist it off. | About the Author EDEN 10th August 2010 8:34pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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epiphany says... Well...thought I'd pop in to report I had my first babaco today (our tree is just over a year old & we harvested our first two fruit the other day). The taste is not unpleasant...sort of lemon vanilla in taste but sharp & not sweet. As a fresh fruit, they're not too bad. But as a milkshake...wow! So divine. And the fruit are big enough you can make some for the whole family & still have some left over. Personally, I think mine were definitely worth the wait...& I see more milkshakes in my not too distant future! | About the Author epiphany2 Melbourne 4th December 2010 5:24pm #UserID: 703 Posts: 84 View All epiphany2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... I leave the fruit on the ground for a couple of weeks after they fall off the tree. I think the fruit needs that little bit extra time to convert all the starch to sugar. They turn fully yellow and become very soft. They tast very sweet and have an excellent flavour and are very juicy. I have a sweet tooth so it must be super sweet for me to like it. Very enjoyable. Never a complaint from any visitors having it that way either. epiphany: what goes into your milkshakes? Ice Honey Banana + other Fruit Milk? | About the Author JohnMc1 4th December 2010 9:54pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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epiphany says... Hmmm...maybe I'll try leaving the next one on the bench for a while to see if I can get it to go sweet. These ones were yellow but still had a little bit of green on them. If I left them on the ground for that long, the chooks would eat them. The milkshakes were very simple...milk, ice cream & babaco. Blend till smooth. They're really nice with banana as well...& last night my daughter made some with some silvanberries & babaco (we're getting so many cane berries at the moment). That one tasted more of berries than babaco but the babaco still provided a very nice top note to the milkshake. | About the Author epiphany2 Melbourne 6th December 2010 11:10am #UserID: 703 Posts: 84 View All epiphany2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Hey John I, I don't know about recommending it to be left on the ground. It's just what I do here and it works well. as a matter of fact I have just ate a whole one a bit larger than the one you have pictured. They don't take long to go down that's for sure. Mine are really sweet with the slightest hint of a subacid taste, hence the likeness to a sweet Champayne like taste. I hate Champayne the drink, to me it's as bitter as hell, can't stand the stuff. I let them go fully yellow. Not a sign of green anywhere on the fruit. Here, on the Central Coast, NSW the fallen fruit are quite robust. They can stay on the ground untouched and unscaythed for two to three weeks. After that, they gradually become too soft and start to rot away. | About the Author JohnMc1 8th December 2010 8:11pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... allybanana, I used to sell babaco cuttings in spring when they are just sprouting. Summer & autumn cuttings are too difficult to strike & if they do you have to nurse them thru a winter before they take off. For posting cuttings they should be about 2cm in diam & 16cm long. Always give them a day to seal the ends & for those that are not tip cuttings slant the top cuts & straight across at the bottom so your recipients will know which way up to plant. Padded postal bags are recommended. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smack in the middle) 10th December 2010 4:02pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I. says... Well I tried my first Babaco this morning. I think Champagne is the best description of the taste. But a cheap Brut that's been on the shelf too long. Ok that might be a little harsh but I don't like Champagne, and after several tries liked the Babaco even less. But I'm not done with the fruit yet. It was the first fruit of the tree (and hence may have been a little premature) and I am still looking forward to trying it in a smoothie. By the way like a Brut champagne the fruit was not sweet at all but at the same time not sour. | About the Author JohnI 14th December 2010 9:24am #UserID: 1975 Posts: 248 View All JohnI's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... You can leave them till they're yellow all over and if your's are still not sweet enough, leave them a little longer again. I've left some till they felt very squishy on the inside, but on a hot day, it's one of the best thirst quenches around, even beats a coldie in my opinion, and they go down just as quick. | About the Author JohnMc1 14th December 2010 9:58am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Wow, many postings on the Babaco. I was wondering how long they live for (short lived lie a pawpaw?) but someone mentioned they live forever, someone said his trees were old and tired. I belong to a group and we're interested in growing some trees for ourselves from cuttings and have someones tree in our sight. The info I have found indicated you cut the entire tree back to within 30cm of the ground and cut the trunk into portions. What does this do to the parent plant? Does it regrow? Some people mentioned cuttings from branches - never having seen a plant in the flesh, I'm thinking they look like a pawpaw plant which would make this diffucult. Any feedback would be appreciated. | About the Author Lissa Brisbane 3rd February 2011 7:39am #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... Yes Lissa, the plant has a skinny pawpaw looking trunk I suppose. When it gets too high, just cut it off 300mm from the ground and let the one strongest trunk grow. The trunk portions of babaco strike much easier than pawpaw. You strike it a bit like a frangipanny ie leave the cut portions a week or so to heal, then plant them into a very well drained potting mix. Add course river sand 50/50 to a potting mix to ensure good drainage. | About the Author JohnMc1 3rd February 2011 8:15am #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Thanks John. I'm going tomorrow to take some cuttings from the tree volunteered by a friend of a friend. I won't be able to cut the trunk, so will just go for something smaller. Have you grown from cutting yourself? Do you think regular seedling mix, which is quite sandy, would do the trick as a propogating mix. I've read that using rooting powder is a good idea also. | About the Author Lissa Brisbane 3rd February 2011 7:11pm #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... You're right on the button there Jason. They punch a flower out at every leaf axil and as the fruit matures, the trunk is completely hidden by hanging fruit. I propagate mine in course fly ash. You might be better off propagating them in straight course river sand. They rot soooo easily if you're not careful. | About the Author JohnMc1 3rd February 2011 8:43pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I planted about 50 cuttings a couple months ago straight in the ground, I used the hose to bore a hole in the dirt about 30cm deep and then poked them into the hole. Seems about half survived. Not a very good hit rate but when I had 50, I didn't care. I actually had 100ish cuttings but the hose boing job took longer than I expect so the rest just went rotten laying in the sun once I was over it | About the Author Jason Portland 3rd February 2011 9:34pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sarah says... Hi, when I was about 7 we went on an outing with school to a farm and we given a taste of babaco. I cant remember where it was, but I loved it and have been trying to find somewhere in Perth I can buy one but have never seen them or heard of them since? Does anyone know if they are available in the northern suburbs - Im in Mindarie Thanks | About the Author Sarah Perth 7th February 2011 4:24pm #UserID: 4903 Posts: 1 View All Sarah 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Cuttings are in and doing well so far, but hope it's not like the Tamarillo I tried growing from cutting recently. I planted a Tamarillo cutting a few months back and it sat looking healthy for about 2mths or more. I decided it must have grown roots by then and dug it out to transplant into the garden. Not a root in sight! Have had success growing them from seed since.
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John Mc says... Hi Lissa, If they start to rot off before you get roots could I suggest mixing half your potting mix with coarse river sand for extra drainage. That potting medium looks a bit heavy from where I'm standing for striking Babaco. I'm risking my reputation as being a bit of a know all but I've had rot problems with mine in the past. | About the Author JohnMc1 17th February 2011 9:18pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... John Mc is absolutely right! The only thing that can kill babaco is dampness &/or wet feet. Even frost is only temporary when the tree loses all its leaves. Babaco comes from the temperate forests of the Equadorian Andes so it is not tropical by any means. In fact in Darwin & most of Qld I think you would be wasting your time planting one. Its the wet season that does them in. Again Tassie in the winter would be a challenge. Best time to take cuttings is in the early spring when the branch tips are just sprouting ( thats for southern areas anyway!) | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busselton ( smack in the middle) 17th February 2011 10:48pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... The main thing with babaco at least in cooler climates is have them really dosed up with nitrogen otherwise they don't tend to hold onto the flowers. I've had them root just throwing cuttings away, they root on the side that lays on the dirt and then shoot up off the horizontal bit. A babaco cutting will last months and months, maybe 6 months+ just laying around on the dirt if it's in the shade so they have plenty of time to do their thing. Sometimes they rot in heavy potting mix full of water like but most of them should take | About the Author Jason Portland 18th February 2011 5:55am #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rob says... Babaco plant now in it's 3rd year at Smythesdale (just outside of Ballarat)and has it's first fruit growing nicely. Has survived heavy frost and the odd snowfall under a bit of shadecloth. Growing in a large tub as l'm not game to put it straight into the ground in case it rots. Has 3 trunks so going to keep the fruiting one and try to propagate from the other 2 smaller ones. | About the Author Robbie Smythesdale 18th February 2011 8:37pm #UserID: 509 Posts: 11 View All Robbie's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Thanks John Mc - it's seed raising mix that the cuttings are in - lots of sand in it. So far so good - all the cuttings are showing signs of new growth. I give them a tiny drink of weed tea every couple of days. Perhaps considering what Jason has said about the cuttings lying around viable for months on the ground, I should stop even that. Don't want to get everyones hopes up (I'm growing on behalf of Brisbane Local Food group)just to kill the plants off with too much moisture. | About the Author Lissa Brisbane 9th March 2011 6:25am #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... I keep a lid of weeds on the water. No, the mozzies are probably making their way through to the water anyway, it's densely packed down with plant material but I'm constantly tipping it out and refilling it. There's so many sources of stagnant water lying around I figure it's just another one. I am mindfull of the problem though. | About the Author JohnMc1 10th March 2011 9:23pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Hi Snottie (great name) I use one of those big flexible tubs for weed tea also. I keep mozzies out with a piece of flyscreen kept in place with some elastic rope. Sometimes they get in and lay larvae, but the adults can't get out again and just add to the goodie. I also add fallen fruit to mine (throw in the toms with caterpillars in them - karma). Just wanted to post a pic of the Babaco cuttings now in individual pots (still in the sandy seed raising mix) and all apparently doing well. New growth on each cutting, but only root growth on about half of them when I took them out. I've planted one cutting directly into the garden in it's spot - one that doesn't get too wet.
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snottiegobble says... Wow Lissa, Even though your cuttings are a lot longer & thicker than what I would use they appear very healthy! Maybe thats the way to go up north by reducing the chance of rot! If you plant them out into mounds of very sandy soil( when the time comes) & just feed them chicken manure pellets ( dynamic lifter) they should thrive depending on air humidity. Good Luck! | About the Author snottiegobble 21st March 2011 12:41am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... I usually use babaco cuttings of between that thickness and twice that thickness. The larger the cutting the easier it is I think? seems that way to me. These are the ones I talk about that last for months and months laying around the garden, you can hardly kill them when they have so much energy reserves in the cutting | About the Author Jason13 Portland 21st March 2011 3:51pm #UserID: 5078 Posts: 3 View All Jason13's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... The instructions I found online recommended cutting the TRUNK into diagonal pieces and growing from these! I was pleased to see the donor plant had lots of small branches when I came to take the cuttings (I thought the plant would look like a pawpaw). Didn't want to ruin the guys tree when he was so good as to offer us cuttings. | About the Author Lissa Strathpine Qld 25th March 2011 4:26pm #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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epiphany says... My babaco is still growing well & is setting fruit for next summer. But I have a question. When should I cut the top off to encourage branching? It's now near the end of it's 2nd year & is around 6' high. Do I top it now in autumn or wait until winter? It's also suddenly started leaning at an alarming angle. I have it staked up until I can get back to it but I'm quite concerned about it. There's no reason for it to start leaning (it's in a sheltered area that gets little strong wind & not a lot of people traveling past it to damage it). It's almost like it's top heavy. As an aside (& following on from my previous posts about the flavour), I left one fruit on the bench/fridge until it was way beyond mushy (but not quite yet looking 'off'...or as off as a babaco can get)...tried it...& it was sweet! The others had been quite pleasant (& they were a tad mushy) but none had been sweet like this one. Next year, I'll keep the ones we plan to eat fresh out on the bench for a lot longer than I had been doing. Edited to add: my tree is never without fruit (because it takes so long for them to ripen here in VIC), so I don't want to cut it back down to 30cm from the ground or else I wouldn't get fruit for a year. What do other Victorians do with theirs? | About the Author epiphany2 Melbourne 26th March 2011 2:41pm #UserID: 703 Posts: 84 View All epiphany2's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Jason says... Mine only fruit well for 1 or 2 years so then I chop them. Even cut I they dont seem to do as well as a fresh cutting. I let mine ripen on the plant until they drop off then leave them until they start to smell really fruity and then eat them. You can leave them for ages before they start to go off, maybe that's the error the people that don't like them make?. Just not letting them ripen properly. I actually left one in my car for ages once and was going to throw it out when I guy I worked with wanted to eat it so I gave it to him and he loved it :P | About the Author Jason Portland 26th March 2011 7:25pm #UserID: 637 Posts: 1217 View All Jason's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John Mc says... I prefer to grow them to a single trunk. Thats just my opinion. I think you get better value in the first two years. Even with a single trunk they get very top heavy with not enough roots for support. I had another one fall over yesterday full of fruit, with support, obviously still not enough, sheeesh! When choosing cuttings, I get the best results from young tips, and there are plenty of them growing on older trunks. | About the Author JohnMc1 26th March 2011 9:23pm #UserID: 2743 Posts: 2043 View All JohnMc1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Epiphany, I would cut it back to around a metre now before winter so it can heal. Make sure you cut it at about 45 degrees so that any rain can run off. Next spring the trunk will produce lots of growing tips, but keep just 2 for insurance until they are strong then remove the weakest. It is preferable to choose sproutings near ( but not on) the stump in case there is any initial die-back. | About the Author snottiegobble 27th March 2011 12:05am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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John I. says... Anyone had experience forcing a Babaco to branch. I want to keep the main stem for fruit this year but need a replacement branch for the following year. Attached is a picture of a leaf at the base of the plant. If I cut the bark just above it to stop the sap flow will this cause a branch to develop?
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Mark says... The only time I have ever seen a Babaco, was in Gardenworld,in Keysborough Victoria. (actually, it wasn't in the Gardenworld nursery part, it was in the Hydroponic Gardening Section.) They had it growing hydroponically in a container that looked like a cut down drum. It was fruiting & was supported by an overhead trellis. ... I have never seen another one, but I have 'heard' that they will grow here in Mildura. (but I haven't seen one up here, ..... yet. .... So in answer to your question,, I would take a Guess at Yes. If you can provide the right conditions for them. (whatever they may be.) | About the Author Mark22 Mildura 9th April 2011 10:25pm #UserID: 5149 Posts: 24 View All Mark22's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... In spite of the babaco being a temperate forest tree of the Andes it seems to adapt to just about anything! Mine as a sappling has gone thru almost constant daytime heat of 30+ for over 3 months & still managed to flower & produce fruit that will ripen next spring! It had minimum shadecloth cover from about 11.30am till 2pm then the shed it is next to provided shade for the rest of the day! Compared to my babacos in Sth W Vic. it is not as tall for its age & I put it down to being in sand.( well fed but still sand ) & the lower leaves are slightly sunburnt. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso ( smack in the middle) 11th April 2011 10:27am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Evo says... Here is a picture of my babaco. I'm in Melbourne and can confirm that they grow really well. They are in pots as their final home is not quite ready. I'm not sure how long they take to ripen, but they continue to grow larger and larger. Some yellowing of the leaves shows they they are working pretty hard. It is a rich soil filled with mushroom compost, and manure.
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snottiegobble says... Ady, Babaco cuttings travel so well in padded post envelopes so dont restrict your search too much, but what I would suggest is that you now wait until spring when the new growth is just starting to show. I used to post them all over the country from Sth W Vic with good results. Autumn cuttings are inclined to just sit there until spring even in a greenhouse & some even rot away! | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso(smack in the middle) 27th April 2011 7:54pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nev says... Some months back I purchased one of your Babaco and planted it near my pawapw tree. It did not flourish so today I dug it up only to find that most of the rootstock had rooted and no roots had developed. I cut the rootstock about 25mm above the rot. That left around 100mm of green rootstock. I dipped that in rooting powder and potted the tree into a 160mm pot in potting mix. Will it survive? | About the Author Nev Esk 8th May 2011 12:11pm #UserID: 5270 Posts: 7 View All Nev's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mark says... Has anyone tried the 'Findhorn method' of gardening? If so,what were your results? ... The veggie patch I've started in my backyard here in the red sand of Mildura,, I'm going to Try that method. I'm even using seeds that I bought in the early 1980's & 1990's,Opened & used some then,& have kept all these years. (I dd buy a few new packs of seed also,about a month ago too.) ... So far,, the seedlings from these older & opened packets Are growing, but are just taking longer to germinate. .... I was just wondering, if anyone else has tried this method of growing veggies? ie;; Talking to the plants, instead of using fertilzers & so forth. If so,, What happened? | About the Author Mark22 Mildura 9th May 2011 1:07am #UserID: 5149 Posts: 24 View All Mark22's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nev says... Yes. I purchased from Daleys some months back. It looked healthy but never grew any leaves. As I am moving to Toowoomba I thought It would transplant easily. That is the reason I dug it up. I say rootstock as the trunk appeared to shoot from the side of the main stem but it could be it's own trunk as I am no expert. Esk is in Qld in the Brisbane Valley. | About the Author Nev Esk 11th May 2011 3:29pm #UserID: 5270 Posts: 7 View All Nev's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Nev, I would say that where it was it wasnt happy at root level so has sprouted further up the stem. reasons could be: it was planted too deep, or disease of the root system,or very wet conditions which is why the roots rotted. Babacos grow naturally in mountainous conditions so they hate wet feet. I would trim off the old roots up to the root regrowth & plant in a very open mix even on a mound if the soil is inclined to be moisture retaining. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smackin the middle) 11th May 2011 7:36pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rastus says... Mark! What sort of response did you really expect to your post RE:> "Findhorn method of gardening"? Something I don't understand with Mark is, in one post he mentioned about having the "best garden in the neighbourhood"(without any pics etc) then in other posts he doesn't seem to have a clue. Don't get too excited yet Amamda. | About the Author Aust 12th May 2011 7:55am #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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BJ says... Easy rastus. Mark - I dont think many will respond to you re: talking to plants in the babaco thread. Maybe try making a new topic. I did try talking to my babaco the other week though. The conversation went something like: 'Either you get better at being a fruit tree or you're compost!'... | About the Author Theposterformerlyknownas Brisbane 12th May 2011 9:11am #UserID: 3270 Posts: 1552 View All Theposterformerlyknownas's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Planting Justice says... Hey everyone! Wow, thank you all so much for sharing so much great info about these babacos. We run a food justice organization in Oakland, CA, and I'd be so thankful if someone could send us cuttings of babacos if they have extra. I can pay for shipping, and the more the merrier. We help low-income families grow healthy food for themselves in the city, and have built more than 95 urban permaculture gardens! thanks. Gavin Planting Justice 996 B 62nd Street, Oakland, CA 94608 gavin@plantingjustice.org | About the Author Planting Justice Oakland, CA 19th May 2011 7:22pm #UserID: 5325 Posts: 1 View All Planting Justice's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Nothing as yet cole cos we have just started with a new babaco plant ourselves after leaving Vic.,& it usually takes 2 -3 years for the tree to branch out so we can take cuttings. As they are natural hybrids they dont produce seeds so only cuttings & maybe tissue culture is used for propagation. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smackin the middle) 6th June 2011 8:05pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Excellent Iam at 231 Toogood Road,Bayview Heights, Cairns. 4868. Seeds that I can have ready to roll after strolling around the garden thisarvo are aussie red bisexual paw paws and other good ones,jicamas,big tasty black sapotes,super productive narajillas,kang kung,wing beans,kaffir limes,bangkok luffah,sapodillas and quite a few herbs. | About the Author Cairns 22nd June 2011 8:48pm #UserID: 5418 Posts: 1438 View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Hi Mike. You mention using seeds from the bisexual pawpaw - do these grow true to type do you know? My plant is still developing it's first fruit. Going to put in some Jicama seeds this year for the first time - any pointers? The ones I bought from the market were small, tasty and perfect. The ones friends are growing are huge. Bangkok Luffa? Different from regular Luffa? Can't find anything with a search. Perhaps we should start some new discussions for these plants.... Thanks, Lissa | About the Author Lissa Strathpine Qld 27th June 2011 5:06am #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Zady says... Hi Snottie, yes, you are right. http://www.greendrinkreviews.com/wp/2008/11/09/exotic-cures-loofah-and-its-benefits/ | About the Author Zady Portland, Vic 28th June 2011 2:27pm #UserID: 5331 Posts: 28 View All Zady's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Yech, I hope not. Oddly enough I just love roasted eggplant. The black one preferably. I pulled out the zucchini even though they were doing fine as they were taking up a lot of space I could use for something I actually liked the taste and texture of! I don't mind the little firm yellow squash either, quite a nice flavour but I've had little success growing them so far - will persist. I find a lot the tropical type veg that are now being introduced to our backyards in Brisbane are blandish and not much fibre.
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klokanovic says... Hello all, I just ordered a Babaco, with it's final home being a half wine barrel with several largish drainage holes. My question is, with all the talk about good drainage being essential - should I fill the wine barrel with cactus potting mix? Thanks for any responses in advance. | About the Author klokanovic 10th October 2011 11:51am #UserID: 5681 Posts: 10 View All klokanovic's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Phil,those babaco are amazing, but for some reason I cant see them growing like that here in Aust. They dont like wind so need to be protected ( like next to an East facing wall or fence.) & they dont like extreme heat being Andean fruit. These trees appear to have just come through a winter with mild frosts ( hence lack of leaves & young fruit. Hard frosts would cause fruit fall as well so where are they Phil ???? I am just picking my 1st fruit here in WA which have overwintered well, but are only half the size they should be. In spite of lots of sheep manure & D Lifter I suspect its due to the ridiculously soily sand we have. | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smackin the middle) 2nd November 2011 7:54pm #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... Interestingly the fruit in the photo from Google Images is more dusky looking than what I've ever seen, almost a grey-purple colour. It looks as if the hedge-like plantation behind may be acting as a wind break. From the photos I've seen of you and your babacos (babaci?) you're doing pretty well SG. Phil. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 2nd November 2011 8:27pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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snottiegobble says... Phil, I tend to agree with you,they could be protected by forest or the photo was taken quite late in the day. The photos of me & mine were in Sth West Vic, in volcanic soil which seems to suit babacos. They loved the summers, but not the winters without frost protection.People worry about "wet feet' but really any soil will do as long as its not waterlogged at ANYTIME!! | About the Author snottiegobble Bunbury/Busso (smackin the middle) 3rd November 2011 12:01am #UserID: 3468 Posts: 1458 View All snottiegobble's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Amazing photo Phil. Here's a pic of a friends Babaco here in Brisbane. We took cuttings from one mature plant and a few of us ended up with two of these each. One of Donna's (planted alongside her bananas) has outshone the lot, and is now covered with small fruit.
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Lissa says... That's my gardening friend Donna who's worked the miracle with the Babaco. Mine are growing well but show no sign of flowering or fruiting. UPDATE: Last month (December) both my Babaco cuttings which were growing so well initially, keeled over. The roots died. The positions and soil they were growing in should have been perfect with great drainage etc. The only thing I can think that might have affected them so severely is the mulch I used - it was a block of compressed matter which turned out to be some sort of pine bark when inflated with water. | About the Author Lissa Strathpine Qld 16th November 2011 9:37pm #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... I don't think you can substitute them for green pawpaw like it a stir fry but here is a link to some ideas to use in the kitchen http://recipes.wikia.com/wiki/Babaco | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 24th November 2011 10:59am #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rev says... Somebody introduced carica pubescens to highland java many moons ago I'm told it's called karika Im trying to find it A friend of mine in Byron had backcrossed babaco with it's parent With good results While carica papaya is prohibited seed import now, the mountain papayas are ok for now Get them while you can | About the Author Rev Abroad 23rd January 2012 1:32am #UserID: 1806 Posts: 359 View All Rev 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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J says... While trawling around on the net, I found this new zealand nursery site: http://www.subtropica.co.nz/index.php?page=5 Turns out they've developed a Babaco Papaya hybrid. "PAWPAW RAINBOW VALLEY [med grade] PB3 40cm Not just a pawpaw but a pawpaw/babaco cross, with larger fruit than the mountain pawpaw, and tastier fruit than either of its parents. The fruit can be eaten skin and all. It crops prolifically for nine months of the year." Interesting.. | About the Author J Upwey, melbourne 25th January 2012 5:45pm #UserID: 2954 Posts: 397 View All J's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise says... The R/V pawpaw is a cross between mountainpawpaw and babaco, with no Carica papaya in it as wildly claimed by some. It is most similar and slightly superior to the mountain pawpaw (Carica pubescens?) The main difference is that the fruit has almost no grooves down the sides of the fruits-good if you need to peel it should the skin be marked or scarred. In the middle is the usual fleshy inside (as in mountain pawpaw) that contains the seeds and is best mixed with some sugar and let stand in the fridge to marinate before eating as is. The ripe flesh (skins) is good added with other juices, eaten fresh, or cooked.I have a tree over 4meters tall.It looks similar to a mountain pawpaw tree but the leaves drop off in the winter as the babaco does. I havent tried growing the seeds. I dont know if i would bother with it again. The high up fruit drop and bruise so I would prefer the shortness of the babaco tree. | About the Author 25th January 2012 6:45pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Nick with the common use of genetically modified disease resistant paw paws in Thailand and Hawaii restrictions have tightened.Unfortunately Customs are eratic and unpredictable.They may go in hard on permitted seeds treated as required, with icon printouts and confiscsate them. At other times they may allow prohibited seeds straight through. | About the Author Cairns 25th January 2012 7:12pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... Ok it sounds like Salacca zalacca zalacca (Bali ones are S.z.amboina) which has about 20 varieties.It is a very equatorial swamp palm,has separate males and females and there probably would only be a few in Australia and probably none of that variety.The ones in Bangkok were Salacca wallichiana.Are you intetrested in vegies or herbs of any kind or willing to take 'pot luck'. | About the Author Cairns 25th January 2012 9:29pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mike says... I was just asking if there were any particular herbs or vegies I can include for you or are you happy enough with whatever I toss in the bag.Salacca wallichiana is from Bankok and KL it is another species Salacca zallacca subspecies zallacca.The Thai ones handle cold better as do the upland Bali ones. | About the Author Cairns 25th January 2012 9:59pm #UserID: 0 Posts: View All 's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... HELLO LISSA FROM STRATRHPINE QLD- BLOG ENTRY NOVEMBER 2011 - BABACO.. I love the fruit of Babaco & wish to grow a tree or 2 in Southport (Gold Coast). The pics of your friends tree are great & I'm wondering whether I may buy some seeds or cuttings from you please? I'm going thru mobility problems & my garden has gone from No Dig to containers & Raised Garden Beds. I'd be happy to pay for any costs incurred - the climate seems similar except the humidity gets us all over Xmas & New Year..looking forward to hearing back..Regards Rebecca. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast QLD 15th February 2012 1:48pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Hi Rebecca. Babaco don't have seed, sorry. The tree pictured belongs to my friend on the other side of Brisbane and still isn't big enough to take cuttings from. Mine died, so myself and a few others are lined up for cuttings also. Keep posted. Somewhere down the track someone will have a tree big enough to take cuttings from. | About the Author Lissa Strathpine Qld 21st February 2012 6:51pm #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Hello Epiphany..cuttings huh? Pity yr in Victoria! It's a long haul plus Borders to cross - I don't think Quarantine would be happy to come across fruit trees being smuggled! hahaha.. I have sourced an Advanced tree for $79 plus $35 Courier delivery..Bloody Hell! I bet you have beautiful fruit trees..I'm just starting out.. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast QLD 10th March 2012 1:42am #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandi says... Hi Mike, would love to swap you for babaco cuttings. I have Grumichama seedlings, yacon, bottle tree seeds, giant avocado seed, a passionfruit that I haven't identified as yet, but something akin to Ligulata. The skin turns a mottled yellow colour with stripes, and the flesh is a grey colour, but very sweet and aromatic. The size is like the pink panama. If you would like to contact me, email is sandi_feller@yahoo.com.au, & the phone # is 40976074. I could call in to your place next time I'm in Cairns. (I'm on the Tablelands). | About the Author Sandi Atherton Tablelands, QLD 10th September 2012 11:27pm #UserID: 6514 Posts: 26 View All Sandi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Sandi says... Brendan, the giant avocado skin stays green, have plenty of seeds (they grow to fruiting in 3 years here), but I can access seeds of another couple of large ones; a red skin, which has been summarily been given the name of Red Queen, also very creamy and nice flavour, and a white fleshed one, good creamy texture, and a mild flavour. Unfortunatly my labels got destroyed while I was away recently, so I don't know which is what. The flowering here this season for avocados is amazing. If you want seed for these, let me know. | About the Author Sandi Atherton Tablelands, QLD 18th September 2012 10:02am #UserID: 6514 Posts: 26 View All Sandi's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Does anyone have cuttings from BABACO? I live in Queensland & am happy to send self-addressed Courier Bag for return postage. Last year I did have a cutting from a wonderful member of this BLOG..but it died rather quickly.. I have Red Tamarillo cuttings available should anyone wish to do a swap I live in Southport Gold Coast & do have a bit of trouble with humidity..BABACO rates up there with my favourite flavours.. absolutely magic!! Can anyone help please? Thank you.. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 10th October 2012 3:01pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Hello Peter 1000 from Adelaide Responding to your September inquiry..if it's still valid of course.. I do have both Red & standard dragon fruit cuttings with roots I 'm happy to exchange for BABACO if your offer is still available. I live on Gold Coast Qld..can we do business? Thank you.. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 10th October 2012 3:06pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Linton says... Babaco I got my Babaco plant from Garden Smart Hydroponics in Springvale where they grow them in vermiculite in pots. They even get them to produce loads of fruit in fairly small pots. I just put mine in a half barrel but it didn't seem to like real soil as much as vermiculite as it lost all the lower leaves. As you can see in the picture it's still small but once the weather warms up a bit it should grow quickly and I should be able to take some cuttings. Also you can always buy the plant from Garden Smart.
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Linton says... I had a look at the site for green patch seeds and they are very reasonably priced. Much cheaper than Garden Smart - their price for an established Babaco plant is about $50. I don't know how big the ones are from green patch seeds but it doesn't matter if they are only small as they grow so fast. So there's no real advantage to paying more for a larger plant. | About the Author Linton Springvale, Vic 12th October 2012 8:25am #UserID: 2286 Posts: 994 View All Linton's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Would much prefer cuttings than paying $50 which is a bit excessive. The cuttings I took all did well initially but once planted mine eventually keeled over. Another keeled over but I am told the piece on the ground is now shooting green. A third one was doing really well growing under some bananas last I heard. The fourth went to another home and I'm not sure how it's going. My point is these were free cuttings, which created plants as good as the Green Patch (where is this place please?) one pictured, but some still died. | About the Author Lissa 17th October 2012 6:25am #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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rowan says... After receiving my babaco and other plants from Greenpatch seeds I really can't recommend them. My babaco was a 10cm unrooted cutting that was all wilted and I don't know if I can get it going, and the fig cutting was mostly dead with a tiny live bud at the bottom. Only one plant was healthy. They really need to work on their quality and the packing was woeful with the plants and soil everywhere. I will definately not be buying from them again. | About the Author Rowan Casterton 19th October 2012 1:57pm #UserID: 4558 Posts: 97 View All Rowan's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Replying to rowan..19 Oct..sorry to see your comment re Greenpatch as I've just put 2 Babaco on pre-purchase..how disappointing..I made enquiries thru Daleys last year for Babaco but the price was far too expensive hence Greenpatch..pity u didn't take some pics & show how NOT TO PACK to maintain customer base.. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 30th October 2012 3:29pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Based Southport GOLD COAST.. BANANAS..Has anyone had experience in growing Dwarf Bananas on the Gold Coast & could suggest best varieties? Just applied for Permit & checking out most suitable.. COCONUTS..Also interested in growing Coconuts..anyone got suggestions? BABACO.. waiting for 2 pre-purchase from Greenpatch.. Thank you.. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 30th October 2012 3:32pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Hi Phil Just about to post of info to Dept of Bananas (hehe) I'm definitely interested in the Dwarf I spoke with Blue Sky this morning & the stock will be available next month When growing Dragon Fruit, is it preferable to have a single stem or better with multiple? By the time it gets to the top of the support before tipping over, it must weigh a ton!! Does 1 cut of the growing points each year to keep the plant size in check or does that stop that stem from producing the following year? Know anything about growing coconut? Awaiting my 2 babaco from Green patch Dec.. soo excited!! Happy Haloween!! | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 31st October 2012 4:38pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... Well done, they are worth the trouble of growing, when you receive them it's hard to imagine that tiny plantlet will eventually become a huge fruiting herb. As for Babaco, I don't know if you've ever tasted one but mine has been fruiting sporadically over the winter/spring months - strangely it tastes better when it still has a bit of green on the skin rather than fully yellowed. I'm not a huge fan of the flavour but have made some passable smoothies out of it. I have some paw paw cultivars that I have bought on eBay or kind fellow forum members have sent to me - I might cross them with the Babaco as you can occasionally get seed to set and end up with a superior flavoured fruit.
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denise1 says... Babaco will readily produce seeds if hand pollenated from many of the mountain pawpaws. They produce most seeds if first grafted onto the other rootstock. Some of the crosses are interesting but usually not as good as babaco. Crosses with the tiny fruiting oak leaf pawpaw can be interesting and nice when cooked. Some NZ growers did a number of selections but none became commercial and most not surviving. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 1st November 2012 7:11am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Phil@Tyalgum says... "It was developed at the Exotic Nursery of Kaitaia, run by the Austin brothers, but unfortunately now closed. The fruit is large and succulent, with a wonderful flavout of lemon, pineapple and pawpaw. It likes the same conditions as other pawpaws". I was lucky enough to receive seeds a couple of years ago but none of them germinated, so someone across the Tasman must still be growing it. | About the Author TyalgumPhil Murwillumbah 1st November 2012 6:24pm #UserID: 960 Posts: 1377 View All TyalgumPhil's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author 72 Gold Coast 9th November 2012 12:15am #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Those 2 pics of yr Babaco trees r awesome & as for that Hybrid NZ..WoW! I'm definately keeping an eye out for quality composted soil to mix thru vermiculite etc..I have some cactus mix I'll put thru 4 good measure..I also have washed river sand & Crusher Dust....I've been saving a bit of garden that is level then drops away around 30"..don't want wet feet.. & I also have a red papaw growing in that patch as well..can't wait to see wot will happen..Ta. | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 9th November 2012 12:26am #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Dee says... I've only just now read your request . If you've not found your fruit trees yet , have you tried the RHS Plantfinder ? Failing that ( although today there was a Babaco listed for mail order from a Nursery in Cornwall UK ) there is a publicatio called the Seedfinder which publishes all seed available from all around the world , for thousands of different plants. peace . | About the Author Dee7 Australia 19th November 2012 6:39pm #UserID: 7441 Posts: 1 View All Dee7's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nev says... Babaco lived in a pot in Toowoomba and took root again. On moving back to Esk after 6 months I put it in the ground next to our 3 year old pawpaw tree. That's a fairly well drained area facing north and tha pawpaws love it. Last week it appeared very healthy and flowered. This week after 2 inches of rain the stalk has rotted off at ground level. It just turned to a white mush and the tree fell over. So, it has been cut back to well above the rot, dipped in rooting powder again and repotted in good quality potting mix. Third time lucky, maybe. 10 years ago we had a babaco and a pepino growing at Oxenford on the Gold Coast. Both trees produced wonderful fruit. Climate here, 120k NW of the Gold Coast is drier and hotter in summer but winters often go to minus 5c which knocks the tops of the pawpaw trees every year. | About the Author Nev Esk 24th November 2012 5:15pm #UserID: 5270 Posts: 7 View All Nev's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Lissa says... Linton - dwarf Tamarillos? Can you tell me more? I grow plenty of the usual sized ones both red and yellow - they're about 2 / 2.5m tall. Do the dwarf grow true from seed? Are the fruit similar in flavour to the full sized? Colour of fruit? Where did you get the plants in the first place? I had an interesting experience recently when a Cassava blew over in a storm and took one of my Tamarillos with it. They both lay on the ground for days before I got around to removing them. Tugged and tugged at the tamarillo and eventually just cut the top off thinking it would be easier to pull out when dead. It came back stronger and healther than ever and is now fruiting. It has never reached full height again and the fruit is hanging right there at eye level. So basically I now have a dwarf.
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Linton says... Dwarf Tamarillo vs. Normal size Tamarillo Hi Lissa In these pictures you can compare both types of Tamarillo side by side. The large one I just put in the ground is the normal size and the one below it in a pot is the dwarf type. I planted both at roughly the same time about 3 months ago and initially I was skeptical about the dwarf, but the difference is quite dramatic. The normal size grows rampantly while the dwarf is very slow and well behaved. I was told that the dwarf type can be grown and get fruit in a pot as it only reaches half the size of the full size one. However, how big it eventually gets, and the quality of the fruit,remains to be seen.
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Lissa says... I'd never heard of this before your mention of it so have just done a quick online search. The first bit of info doesn't say much about the fruit but talks about it's weed potential, something to watch out for: http://www.technigro.com.au/WW_Dwarf%20Tamarillo.pdf Here's another site with some pics of the fruit and description of the plant. It can grow to 10' tall but I expect you can restrain that in a pot: http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/dwarf_tamarillo.htm | About the Author Lissa 18th December 2012 4:58pm #UserID: 3797 Posts: 189 View All Lissa's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Nev says... Hi Rebecca Gold Coast City Council plated heaps of cocnut trees on the northern GC higway in SP near the carpark over from the RSL. Never saw a nut on them butthe trees grow fine. I grew babaco at Oxenford for years and covered them with hessian in winter to stop thefrost from keeling them over. Now in Esk again. The Babaco I had here keeled over so I cut it off and repotted it where it grew while in Toowoomba for six months. Came back here and put it into the ground and it was growing beautifully and keeled over again with rotten stem at the ground. It has been cut off again and is now in a pot permanently. I suspect some in ground critter is turning the trunk to mush. | About the Author Nev Esk 19th December 2012 11:35am #UserID: 5270 Posts: 7 View All Nev's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Rebecca says... Hi Nev (19/12)..now u mention it I do recall the coconut trees.. U certainly have a chequared past with Babaco trees..I've been preparing a mound to assist with drainage & wet feet..I'm going to place them on either side of a red pawpaw only because it's in the mounded up area I mentioned.. WISH ME LUCK!! | About the Author 72 Gold Coast 19th December 2012 8:12pm #UserID: 5373 Posts: 45 View All 72's Edible Fruit Trees |
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sabrinare says... Hi im new to this forum .. i bought a property in nz and found in the garden this strange looking plant with green fruits. I finally came across this website and i think its a babaco. Can someone confirm?i have never heard of it before!! I open the yellow fruit and there is some white pulp with black seeds in it .. is it edible ..i hope so as i had some!!!!
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denise1 says... The meaty part of the fruit can be stewed with some sugar and the seedy pulp inside can be mixed with some sugar to stand for 12 hours then eaten seeds and all. You dont have to bite into the seeds unless you have intestinal worms to get rid of. You can put fruits with meat roast to tenderize it. You may be interested in also growing the related babaco. A huge fruit about 30cms long and also called champagne fruit. It has no seeds and grows by cuttings. You can get them online in NZ from Subtropica. They would grow well next to the other pawpaw you have, next to the house. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 4th August 2014 9:47am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Waterfall says... Just harvested my first 2 babaco, both dropped off the tree, one with the stem attached and one without. I ate the one without, to me it tastes like a really watered down pineapple. Its not taking up much space so I will keep the tree but otherwise I probably wouldn't bother growing this fruit. | About the Author Waterfall Waterfall 8th April 2015 6:30pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Waterfall says... I'm going to take back what I said about this fruit, I just had another one fall off the tree and this time I let it sit on the kitchen bench for about a week to ripen further. The flavor was much better, almost enjoyable. Hopefully I get get the rest of the fruit on my tree to ripen much further. | About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 14th July 2015 5:29pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 14th July 2015 6:43pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mysterio says... wow. what an epic thread. i started growing babaco only 1 year ago and my small tree is loaded with fruit. i was holding one in my hand and this gentle touch dislodged the fruit from the tree. still green but had a bit of weight i peeled it and tasted it. was quite pleased with its tart mild taste. about 10min later my hands became very itchy. really uncomfortably so. took about 30min to go away. anyone else experience this? i hope this reaction will not happen for me with thw fruit when ripe. | About the Author Mysterio Inner West Sydney 15th July 2015 8:15pm #UserID: 10248 Posts: 7 View All Mysterio's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 15th July 2015 9:57pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Mysterio says... just since yesterday my babaco fruit has been dropping ripe from the trunk. the first one i ate at room temperature and found it to taste average and unremarkable. consistency of a rockmelon, albeit less firm, with not much taste apart from a light tartness. the second one i chilled in the fridge, diced it and tossed with s bit of sugar. i ate it with proscuitto and haloumi and was delicious. the sugar has brought out the flavour and strikes a nice balance with the tartness. was perfect placed on the platter with the salty meat and cheese. very stoked i can grow this thing. no more wild skin reaction when handling the ripe fruit. seems to be a problem isolated with handling them when not ripe. | About the Author Mysterio Inner West Sydney 30th September 2015 7:03pm #UserID: 10248 Posts: 7 View All Mysterio's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Waterfall WATERFALL,2233,NSW 15th October 2015 2:27pm #UserID: 10026 Posts: 422 View All Waterfall's Edible Fruit Trees |
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About the Author Damian Curtain reservoir 24th November 2015 10:33am #UserID: 5569 Posts: 4 View All Damian Curtain's Edible Fruit Trees |
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Westy1 says... I'm having the same problem Damian, also feeding with chook manure. From what I've read it could either be too much nitrogen or because night temperatures are still too low for fruit set (it's still getting down to 6C at night where I am). Apparently fruit set is better during warm summer nights. | About the Author Westy1 KENSINGTON GARDENS,5068,SA 30th November 2015 4:07pm #UserID: 11786 Posts: 3 View All Westy1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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denise1 says... I remember the early recipes for babaco being that the entire fruit should be used. I now find that when scraping away the inner slimy stuff, the pieces in the babaco /apple pie are more firmer and more nice to eat. Not ruined by the slime. I always throw in a few davidsons and some cloves. Also some nice big lumps of Lucuma obovata in the pastry are a real treat. In the tropics use canistel. | About the Author denise1 auckland NZ 1st December 2015 10:25am #UserID: 6832 Posts: 688 View All denise1's Edible Fruit Trees |
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