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Hi all,

Just to share with you all that I have successfully grown the following fruit tree in Melbourne. I mean having them producing fruit.
In pot, cover soil and shelter in winter : babaco, Bell apple (Malay apple)

In pot and under shelter in winter:, Acerola (Indian cherry)

In pot but outside in garden :wampee, jujubee (I have 2 trees but only the one in the pot producing lots of fruit, the other on the ground fruits
only once in the first season, that it)

On the ground: jaboticaba (after 12 years perhaps I have not given it enough water it needs), white sapote (varieties: ortigon, pyke, venon (very bland)), Asian grapefruit (sweet but a bit of tangy after taste), rose apple, cape gooseberry, Wolf berry, Indian melon (very soft when ripe).

Some other I am still waiting for fruit:
star apple, lychee, longan does produce some fruit but too close to winter so it does not get counted as successfull.

I am interested in other tropical fruit trees you could grow in Melboune

You are invited to add some more.

Cheers

Tran

Time: 14th August 2007 9:31am

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lynne says...
Hi Tran
Wow you have quite an orchard! I wish I was able to contribute but unfortunately I have only started growing fruit trees. I have however found a link which you may be interested in (if you haven't seen it before) http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/forum/10631.html
Tran from your experience in Clayton (I'm very close in Mt Waverley), is it better do plant guavas etc now or wait for another time?
Lynne

Time: 14th August 2007 8:44pm

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Correy says...
Hi Tran

We have a Australias Most Popular Plant list.

How this is tabulated is every time someone purchases a plant it counts as 1 vote of popularity for that plant. If they purchase more then 1 of the same variety it still counts as 1 vote to try and keep it fair.

If you wanted to see what are the most popular varieties that people near Melbourne have been. Victoria has a most popular list here:

http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/Australia/VIC/

Time: 15th August 2007 7:52am

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Tran says...
Hi Lynne,

I did try a seedling of guava some years ago, bought from garden world and it did not work for me. It could be too small (50 cms). I have seen 2 big guava trees : one in springvale the other one in Huntingdale they are about 2 meter tall and see fruit last year but not last summer so I thought it may be too cold for those particular varieties.

I found that tropical fruit trees work quite well in big pots. I would say if you would like to try growing guava then wait for another month and after the tree settles, give it plenty of dynamic lifter to speed up the growing process before the next winter kick in.

In Melbourne, I think mature fruit trees survive well than little ones.

Happy growing.
Tran
PS: Thank you very much for giving me the link. It is very useful indead

Hi Correy,

Many thanks for letting me know that there is an excelent way to find out trees which are suitable for Melbourne weather. Much appeciated.

Cheers

Tran

Time: 15th August 2007 9:43am

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lynne says...
Hi Tran
I found another page tonight - don't know if you've seen this one - i have not yet figured out how their site works and if there's any current posts as this one is a few years old http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/forum/23024.html
Thanks for your tips re guavas. I mentioned guavas as i thought they are one of the easiest tropical fruits to grow. So i now know to get more mature trees where possible. Do you know of other places in Melb to get trees from (as this is a Daley's forum, it may be inappropriate to promote other businesses publicly so if you go to somewhere else other than Daleys and gardenworld, would you mind emailing me at kiteboard@fastmail.fm)? Also, would you be able to name a few trop fruit trees that you found haven't died too easily? I actually love star apples but don't think it's chance of success here is high (and much lower if I was to try).
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Time: 15th August 2007 10:30pm

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Correy says...
Hi Lynne & Tran,

Feel free to mention any fruit tree businesses on the forum.

Here are a few of our recommended fruit tree retailers

We can sell wholesale to nurseries in Melbourne so if they don't have a certain variety you could always mention that they can get it off us for you.

Time: 16th August 2007 7:44am

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Tran says...
Hi Correy,
Many thanks for allowing us to name businesses on this forum. You are very generous.

Hi Lynne,

I saw some 1.5 meter high guava trees in the big KMART in BURWOOD but it was 3 year ago. you could check it out this summer.
Refer to my original post, I found that Jaboticaba, white sapote (grafted) are very hardy if you like to grow them in the ground.

Some friends told me that if you put tropical fruit trees on the ground then only some of those will fruit, the rest may survive if you are lucky.

Most of Mine are in pots. Star apple trees are very big trees by the way.

Take care

Tran

Time: 16th August 2007 9:33am

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Kath says...
Tran we will be very interested to see if you can get the star apple to fruit in your southern climate. I had my first two fruits that had set abort in the cool and dry sub tropical winter, oh well I will have to wait another year. They are well worth growing as an ornamental tree even if they do not fruit for you.

Time: 16th August 2007 2:46pm

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Tran says...
Hi Kath,

Sorry, I mean star fruit not star apple that I refered in my original post. I know we have lots of those in Vietnam. I tasted the white variety last year in Cairns. It was heaven. I agree with you that they are very handsome trees. I want to grow every single tropical fruit tree in my Melbourne garden but there is no more room except for a little bush that I want is Ceylon Hill goosebery .

Take care and good luck to your tree

Tran

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Juliana says...
I saw guava tree in Bunnings in Werribee just before winter.

Time: 16th August 2007 9:45pm

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Juliana says...
Hi Tran

Are you able to plant annona plant in Melbourne? I am interested in planting a Pink Mammoth or African Pride in Melbourne.

I have been reading a lot about the annona tree but most of the articles says that annonna cannot live in cold high frost location like Melbourne.

Do you know anyone who is successful in annona plant an fruits?
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Kath says...
Juliana if you want to grow the Annona species in Melbourne try a cherimoya, Annona cherimoya, this is more likely to succeed in fruiting as custard apples ripen in the cooler winter months and Melbourne is just not warm enough to successfully ripen the fruit. The cherimoya comes off earlier than the custard apples when there is still some warmth in the weather in the southern climates so there is a greater chance of successfully ripening the fruits. Cherimoyas will not like a heavy frost but they can handle light frosts to about -2 degrees C, I am not sure how many of these in a row they can handle though.

Time: 17th August 2007 7:41am

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Hi Juliana,
If I was you I would take Kath advice. I have never tried to grow this fruit tree.

My neibough has had Annona tree for quite a few years now and he said it flowers come too close to winter, do set fruits but drop off after few weeks due to cold weather.

Good luck.

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Time: 17th August 2007 9:05am

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lynne says...
Thanks Tran - I will look for big pots first before getting the plants (I must admit intuitively, you'd think they they can fruit more in the ground due to greater abundance of soil but I suppose they are warmer in pots and in Mel that's more important.)
I've been told that they were selling guava trees somewhere in the Springvale shopping centre.

Interesting where these trees are popping up.

has anyone seen this site? http://www.rarefruit-sa.org.au/Fruited.htm

pity we don't have a similar organisation in Melb...

Kath - thanks for the invaluable info re difference b/w custard apple and its cousin - i'm sure parallels can be drawn
with other fruiting trees too




Time: 17th August 2007 10:32pm

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Juliana says...
I have seen Banana (lady finger) in Bunnings too. Selling for about USD$30.00

Time: 20th August 2007 10:54pm

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Rev says...
if you can wing it contact the NSW ag dept and try and find out where to get virus free stock from
i was told they will supply the public
but who knows if its true
itd be a good policy

did anyone mention avocados?

Time: 19th November 2007 12:25am

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Dave says...
I have many sub tropical / slightly unusual fruit trees growing in Melbourne.

Ones which l have found easy to grow are:
White sapote (easy)
Jaboticaba (easy, first fruit this year!! have flowered three times in two months)
Macadamia (easy, first nuts on tree)
Japanese Raisin (very easy)
Avocados (easy)
Jujube (very easy)
Cherimoya (easy)
Caper Bushes (very easy)
Chilean Guava (very easy)
Red / Yelow cherry Guava (very easy)
Coffee (kept undercover mid winder)
Tea (easy)
Naranjilla (never fruited)
Gruminchama (Never fruited, very slow))
Cherry Rio Grande (First flowers this year, easy)

All are growing in the ground except Tea / Coffee. Coffee definitely will not handle any frost at all, but grows well outdoors in a pot until winter.

Normal Guavas grow really well during late spring/summer and will fruit but our autumn is not long enough for them to ripen properly. I have tried and have several varieties however each year the fruit tastes awful.


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Tran says...
Hi Dave,

Does your jujube in the ground fruits easily? Mine on the black pot has many fruits but not the one on the ground and I have added potash and fruits still do not set. I suspect it may have something to do with cold soil.

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Dave says...
Tran,

Both my Jujube's are in the ground in full sun and both produce plentiful fruit. They are incredibly hardy plants. The dog ate half the Li plant the first year it was in the ground, but this is it's third year and it is 11 feet tall and growing quickly.

The Chicko producted many fruit the first year it was planted. It is just into it's second year and alreay six feet tall. Both currently have many small fruit forming.

I have to say they both taste absolutely beautiful.. It is a real shame there are not any commercial growers.
They are in the ground next to other fruit trees, so do not receive anything special other than some citrus fertilizer.
From what l have read they do not need any special treatment at all.


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Tran says...
Good morning Dave,

Many thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.

Both of mine are Li variety and I treated both the same way except the one in the pot has had some recycle water (from washing vegies). I will try some citrus fertilizer and with rains lately I will see if it makes the different.

By the way, you have done well with yours, mine are 6 years old and only 5 feet tall.

Yes they are beautiful to eat and I found the only place that sells is
http://www.perrysfruitnursery.com.au/jujube.php only $10 per kg but with postage the price is double so unless you go to Adelaide to buy direct it is a bit dearer than I would have expected. Last year, I bought in Springvale for $12 per kg but they are quite rare.

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Lusy says...
Hi Dave

I would like to grow a Secondo Avocado in Melbourne. Which variety are you growing? Do you know of anyone who has a fruiting Secondo in Melbourne or where I can get a hold of a fruit from this variety to taste it. Imagine if I planted a tree, waited years for it to fruit only to discover I didn't like the taste!

I am also having difficulty getting a Secondo Avocado from a retail nursery in Melbourne. I placed an order in winter and have checked regularly with the nursery, but they tell me that even when Daleys show items available on their web site, our local nursery cannot get stock.

Any information about growing avocados in Melbourne would be greatly appreciated.

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Robbie says...
Hi Lusy,
I have a Bacon avocado growing just outside of Ballarat in it's 3rd year and out in the open exposed to frosts (and a light cover of snow last winter)and it flowered for the first time this spring. No fruit yet but too young l guess. Looking very healthy and unaffected by hot winds as long as l keep the water up to it and lots of mulch. Just bought it a friend - a wertze, and hope to try other varieties soon. Also just purchased jackfruit, raisin tree, custard apple, and macadamia to see if l can get them to survive out here. Good luck with your avocados
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Rev says...
where do you get bacon avos from

they seem hard to source in nsw and qld as the market is for frost free types , and ive been told bacon performs poorly in warm conditions (disease)

except the whole inland band from vic to herberton F N Qld is not frost free!!
we need a bacon or a bacon like hardy hybrid!


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Rev says...
also tried with cherimoya too - seedlings and grafts
-3 is the limit

-3 seems a magic number for many things
above and things make it, below they dont

avos, cherimoya, andean walnut, papayas, pineapple, acerola passionfruit - break down and die beyond -3



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Rev says...
sorry meant to say
black jaboticaba are actually hardier than they look
slow to grow and slow to fruit
but suprisingly cold hardy
while the above will die, the jabs wont...

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Lusy says...
Hi Robbie

Thanks for your reply. It's good to hear that your avocado is doing so well with both frosts and the heat. If I can't get a Secondo, I will probably get a Bacon.

Regards

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Robbie says...
Hi Rev,
Daleys list Bacon avocados.Might be worth putting your name on the notification list for when they become available again. Bought mine from a local nursery, who get them from time to time. They seem the most common vatiety in nurseries down this way.
Will be interesting to see if it just survives or actually fruits here because of our weather extremes.






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Dave says...
I have seen bacon avocados at Gardenworld in Springvale and Dacos nursery in Heatherton (Melbourne suburbs). They are readily available as is Hass, Sharwill, Ryan and Reed. They grow easily in Melbourne. Just plant them straight away rather than growing in a pot for too long. Mine are in their third year and have one fruit each (Bacon and Gwen). I have not seen Secondo available anywhere. As mentioned keep them well mulched and they should grow well. Just keep the possums off the new growth!

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lynne says...
Bunnings (Notting Hill) currently stock several varieties of bananas (marketed as being for cool climates) and a few pepino plants.

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Robbie says...
Bunnings in Melton has bananas too - about 6 varieties including one supposed to grow only to 2 metres. And mango and macadamias

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Lusy says...
I would like to order a Secondo Avocado from Daleys. The cost of the tree is $29.00, but the postage and handling raises the cost to $80.00. Is there anyone in Melbourne, preferably from the South Eastern Suburbs, who would like to order some plants from Daleys (there is room for 3 more in the carton) and share the cost of the postage?

Lusy

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Kath says...
Hi Lusy,
We are currently looking at a smaller sized box to hold just one plant and bring the cost of freight down for those who only want one plant. We have had a template made but it will take a little while to produce the box and set the system in place. So hopefully by next spring those who want only one plant will be able to order it at a reasonable freight cost.

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Lusy says...
Thanks for the Reply Kath. I was rather hoping to get the plant this year, but if it doesn't work out, I will wait till next Spring.

Lusy

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Stephen says...
Hi Tran,
We have strawberry guava's loaded with fruit, pineapple guavas with fruit, tamarilo's loaded with fruit, banana's that are close to commercial grade in quality and size using bags purchased from a grower in QLD, also gingers including the eating variety which we have just planted this year.
My father inlaw in monbulk is growing tamorilos, pomigranits, persimmons and finally shell gingers but these are for cut flower foliage.
You could also grow avocados, as over 10 species grow in Lakes Entrance at an avocado farm locally.
Also the black sapote and brazilian cherry are surposed to grow and we will be trying these in the next 12 months along with pawpaws, as we have grown them from seed before but didnt know how to keep them alive through there first winter.
Also another fruit is the jelly palm or wine palm which makes a great jam but very slow growing.
In general I have found tropicals respond well if planted on a north facing brick wall or wind barrier with large rocks that can absorb heat during the day and release it back at night. also mushroom compost over winter helps with warmth, but to increase fruiting during mid spring to start of summer use seaweed solution directly on the leaves and plenty of trace element fertilizer on the ground, follow this up 3 weeks latter with seaweed sprayed on the leafs again and lime around on the ground.
finally there is only one particular species of star fruit that will fruit lightly in melbourne acording to ABC, check with ABC gardening Australia as they just did a story on tropical and unusual fruits and made a note of how far south each could grow.
otherwise go nuts and experiment, but try plants at least three times before giving up, each time in a different location as we have lots of plants that should not grow in Victoria yet they do. But remember always do your research using common and botanical names to get all the information you can to recreate an environment as close as you can to their native enviroment.
Hope all of this info helps

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Tran says...
Hi Stephen,

Many thanks for your advice and also to every one who has contributed on this topic.I am very much appreciated.

I have just learned from a book which said Star fruit need lots of water (rain) and we can't afford to water the tree all the time so I guess I have to wait for rain to come. I will look up the ABC webpage and find out more information.
I would like to add that Pineapples are very easy to grow in Melbourne. Mine have had fruits after 18 months. When I buy pine I always choose the one with multiple heads. Last year all 3 heads produced 3 medium size pines. They were very pretty.

I want to plant some more tropical fruit trees but due to a shortage of water I shelf my plan for the time being.

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Scott G says...
I have grown 2 Star fruit trees. One was in a drier spot in my garden for 2 years. It had such a tough time and produced no fruit so I pulled it out. Having it there fending for itself was a waste. A guava now grows like mad in the same spot. After the failure with the first one I planted the second one in a wetter position. That tree has been in the ground for 4 months (this has been a wet period). It has just finished growing 3 good fruits.

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Robbie says...
Hi Stephen,
Sounds like you are having a lot of success with tropical fruit in your area. What is your lowest temperature during winter down there in Lakes Entrance? Are your bananas out in the open or protected with buildings?
I have bought 7 different varieties of banana with the hope that at least one will a bit more cold tolerant than the others and survive. I know of one plant growing up here that has survived a winter outside.
Cheers,
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Jason says...
Hass is the best Avocado for Southern Victoria if you live near the coast and don't have huge frosts. Fino de Jete the best Cherimoya by far that you can get from Daleys, don't grow "White" it needs more heat than we have and wont taste any good, Fino is superb in Southern Vic. Vernon is the easiest Sapote to grow and fruit in the cooler areas of Victoria. No one can go wrong with those 3 varieties

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bsilver says...
Right on.

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Margaret Smith says...
Excellent forum thanks Tran for starting this one...I have avocados Bacon and Hass both with fruit on and about 4-5 metres high after 3 years from Daleys. Also bananas, guavas fejoa, white sapote, cherimoya, babaco, pomegranate, all the citrus, inc finger limes and aussie round limes etc, macadamias, candlenut, persimmons, 3 types peaches, apricots, ice cream bean, golden fruit of the andes, blueberries, plumcot, bamboo for shoots, kaffir plum, and I'm sure there are more but cannot grow cassava, cinnamon outdoors...I keep trying and failing so I am thinking of having a small tunnel...just to have a go
BUT what I really want are female or bisexual pawpaws..as I got 2 in a pot from daleys and now they are 5 metres tall with enormous trunks and they are male...b@$%^*$er
can anyone help...oh Morrison Brothers in Doncaster is another brilliant place for fruit trees...

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Tim says...
Hi Lusy,

Oh man, had I read this forum sooner, I would have gone in 50/50 with you re: courier from Daley's. However, I've stock piled my list and have just ordered 13 trees/plants. Fingers crossed that they do succeed here in Melbourne:

Secondo Avacado
Coffee Arabica
Curry Tree
Drumstick/Horseradish Tree
Guava hawaiian
Guava Yellow cherry
Macadamia- A4
Mandarin - Okitsu Wase
Passion Granadilla x Lilkoi
Pine Nut Tree
Pitaya - Vietnam
Pitaya - Yellow
Taro

Rgds
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John says...
Hay Margerat, if you are sore the are male, then do this. Stress and nessecity is the mother of all evil. Pick out the one you can afford to lose the most, and stress it out. Reduce the watering patten just before the are due to flower. If it doesnt work in the first year. It will the next. But before you do this give it a feed of pot ash. I think you perhaps should also look at the paw paw blog and perhaps try pruning back the plant. This although they dont relize it performs the same outcome. I just have not learnt it properly yet to advice you on ho to do it.

Time: 12th February 2008 5:00pm

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Margaret Smith says...
Thanks so much John...the jolly things are huge..I don't know how I can stress them any more than the no rain that Melbourne hasn't...we have subterranean water in spots of the garden and if trees get their roots down away they go!!!..so I will indeed cut them down to half and potash them....willing to try anything....thanks again, facinated that this may "turn" them

Time: 13th February 2008 9:55am

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John says...
Margret, fruit tree trees tend not to travel to far or deep unless on top of a septic. This is why when planting things like large paws and jacks not so close to the house shed ect. Wish you luck.

Time: 13th February 2008 7:07pm

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Margaret Smith says...
thanks again...had a careful look at them last night and even though they are boys panicles of very small flowers...most of the panicles have 1 tiny fruit each kinda sweet really and my hubby thought "turning" the trees by sticking nails in them and chopping their heads off sounded really extreme and he ran away in case I took to him!!!!!

Time: 14th February 2008 9:19am

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Amy says...
Hey Lusy, Are you still wanting to share a carton? I'm in Narre South & want to order some stuff, so don't mind sharing if you like?

Dave...does your Japanese raisin fruit? I'm interested in trying one but read in Lewis Glowinski's book that he had trouble getting his to flower.

This thread has been very interesting...we're just starting our garden & I'd like it to be a primarily edible garden. But choosing plants is a bit like christmas...so many possibilities to try (& of course, I'd love to try them all but would run out of room, I think) :)
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Time: 21st February 2008 8:33am

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Lusy says...
Hi Amy

Yes, I would still like to share a carton. Please contact me on my mobile 0423 278 542 in the evening so that we can sort out the details.

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Time: 21st February 2008 8:51am

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Steven says...
I have been going through this forum for the past few days because I am also interested in growing tropical fruit trees in Melbourne, I have only been growing them since last season but seem to be having great success with a Hass Avocado which I grew from a seed, Banana and pineapples so far that i grew from tops.

I have been doing a bit of research on tropical trees and wanted to point out a couple of things. First of all the tropics dont get four distinct seasons like we do. they get a wet season and a dry season and most trees start flowing just after the dry season. for example you can make a coffee tree fruit by significantly reducing the amount of water it gets for a couple of months and then start watering it heaps (simulating a wet and dry season) and it should start flowering. Places that get two wet seasons a year (i think Brazil does) get two coffee crops a year because of it and you can simulate that. Or Mango's dont like getting their flowers wet and this can prevent the fruit from setting. So if your not getting fruit it may not be the temperature it may be something like this which can usually be easily avoided. So its a good idea to do a bit of research and find out what the behavioral characteristics of your species/variety are.

Another thing, i dont think frost is a real problem in Melbourne, ive lived in the eastern suburbs about 1/2 an hour from the beach for 22 years and have never seen frost on trees, only on the ground, ive only ever seen condensation on leaves which wont damage them. So i dont think frost is really a big problem.

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Time: 21st February 2008 1:59pm

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John says...
Steven, that condensation on the leaves, when below 7oC becomes a chile factor to these trees. Each hour is calculated to produced the chil facter. The fact that in your area things like stone fruits,apples, pears, cherrys,ect grow is prof of that, for without that they carnt set there fruit. For the same reason, if the tropical trees try to friut this problem may prevent it aswell or reduce the ablity to ripen fruit.

Time: 22nd February 2008 7:39pm

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juanita says...
It looks like my hass avoc is suffering from root rot... Im desperately trying to save it by spraying the leaves w/ anti-rot & put some lime granules around the base of the tree but it doesn't seem to be of any help to cure the prob....Any helpful hints will be very much appreciated...Maybe it's not too late yet to save my hass ?
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Time: 23rd February 2008 12:44am

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Tran says...
I don't think your tree has root rot problem just dry up due to lacking of water because of the drought. I think your tree need some water. I would give it some water and some gypsum.

Time: 23rd February 2008 7:28pm

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juanita says...
Thanks Tran, i'll follow your advice, hopefully my suspicion about root rot is incorrect..Here's another pix & you can see the main trunk slowly turning brown.

Im also looking for a type of banana w/ red skin but i don't know the name. Do you know where i can get it from?.Thanks again.
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Time: 23rd February 2008 11:28pm

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Hi Juanita,

Bunnings and Kmart both had Red Dacca bananas that according to the labels grow to about 2 metres high and have red skinned fruit.

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Time: 24th February 2008 1:07am

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juanita says...
Thanks Rob, I'll ring them asap... Ladyfinger & Cavendish are growing nicely in my yard.

Time: 25th February 2008 12:00am

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Steven says...
Hi.

I am looking to a Chocolate tree (Theobroma Cacao). I know daleysfruits.com can get them but i have contacted them and have been told that they cannot get them in for a while because none are in production but if anyone knows any place where i can/may get them please let me know.

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P.S. Thanks John chill factors is one thing that i have not considered. What I meant by frost though is that i dont think the frost in Melbourne will damage the leaves or kill the trees.

Time: 25th February 2008 9:58am

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Rob says...
Juanita, the bananas from Kmart and Bunnings came from a place in Mooroolbark called Humphris Nursery (I read the labels). Might be cheaper direct from the source if you can locate them. Have a ladyfinger and cavendish (dwarf) growing out here on the outskirts of ballarat - might be another story once the winter sets in again.... but can only try. First year they have been in.

Time: 25th February 2008 5:16pm

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juanita says...
Hi!Rob, where's mooroolbark, is it in dandenong?...Here's my cavendish & the ladyfinger's 1st yr on the ground still small.It'll be a big challenge for me to get them fruits but it can be done i guess?

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Time: 26th February 2008 12:10am

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Dave says...
Amy,

The Japanese raisin Tree has not fruited as yet. It has only been in the ground for 1 and a half years. It is approx 8 feet tall and a lovely looking tree. I am thinking of putting another one l have growing in a pot in the front nature strip!

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Time: 26th February 2008 4:47pm

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Amy says...
Dave...wow! That's growing quickly! I ended up ordering one & it arrived today (& yes, very pretty)...I'm going to put it out the front of my house. Hopefully it fruits sometime in the future :)

Time: 27th February 2008 11:01pm

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Margaret Smith says...
Just an observation about cocoa I worked in PNG for years and on many plantations. coaoa was grown under the canopy of coconuts to protect them, and grown in areas of 1 metre plus rainfall a month in the wet season(not like melbourne with 400mm a year) The humidity 12 months of the year was unbelievable and the heat about 35 - 40 constant daytime, never below 25 at night....we also had trouble with rot, for obvious reasons, but many tropical things will grow here if the water is restricted around their roots in winter when they cannot dry out, perhaps try it in a pot and in a warm plastic house over winter, and keep it protected from direct sun...love to know how you go!!!! cheers Marg

Time: 28th February 2008 9:18am

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Rob says...
Juanita, the address for Humphris Nursery is 218 - 220 Cardigan Road Mooroolbark 3138. (03) 97619688. I think that suburb is over near Dandenong... I live near Ballarat so l'm not familiar with that area.
Your banana plants look great. I have mine in large tubs so l can move them under a poly tunnel during the frost and snow. Have tried one out in the ground (a red Dacca) and so far it's growing well... but getting it to survive our winters up here might be a big ask. Going to wrap blankets around it and over top during frost... and have been told that a long burning candle placed under a terra cotta pot nest to the plant will help keep air warm around the plant. Will try anything to be able to just keep it alive outside.
Also planted a Japanese Raisin Tree this year l bought from Daleys. Amazed at how quickly they grow. Grasshoppers ate almost every leaf off it the first week l planted it, but soon shot back and has almost doubled it's size. Jackfruit got eaten too, and has some shoots regrowing, so hope it can get a bit sturdier before winter hits it.
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juanita says...
Rob, thanks for the add & tel of the nursery...Our local Bunnings here will be able to get me red dacca for $28.00 ( i think it's a bit dear? )...Kmart here hasn't got any but Big W has 6 potted bananas left, 4 dwarf red daccas & 2 pisang(banana)ceylon all for $25.00/ea, $3.00 cheaper than Bunnings.Big W & Bunning's nanas are all from Humphris Nursery.
Last yr i covered the big banana tree w/ old quilts & bedsheets but it wasn't a good idea coz the frost penetrated right thru, luckily the main p-stem didn't die completely.This coming winter i'll cover the top w/ plastic & wrap around it either w/ plastic or bedsheets, also will put the xmas light on to keep them warm. Lastly, thick mulch around the base of the tree.
My caimito & drumstick trees grow very slow.Hopefully they'll survive this coming winter (their 3rd winter).
Good luck to your ultra tropical jackfruit tree.



Time: 29th February 2008 12:30am

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Bsilver says...
Thick mulch may hinder the transfer of heat from the ground , which is warmer.

Time: 1st March 2008 6:10am

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Di Tod says...
I wonder if anyone would know where I can buy a Jujube in VIC? Thanks, Di

Time: 5th March 2008 3:17pm

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Di Tod says...
Hi Amy, could you tell me where you got this tree, please? Thanks, Di

Time: 5th March 2008 3:25pm

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Rob says...
Cornucopia Seeds mail order Japanese Raisin Tree seeds if you have trouble getting a plant

Time: 6th March 2008 8:04pm

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Steven says...
Hi Margaret

Thanks for your advice, if i do get a Cacao I will try and climatise it but probably leave it in a greenhouse that im in the process of building. Hopefully it will be sucessful and fruit but I have my doubts. But there is no harm in trying.

The main problem at the moment is getting my hands on one but if do get one ill let you know how it goes.

Thanks

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Time: 8th March 2008 3:18pm

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Amy says...
Di: I got it off Daleys :)

Time: 8th March 2008 3:32pm

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Di says...
Hi Rob, thanks for the advice re Cornocopia. I ordered some Japanese raisin tree seeds from Green Harvest a couple of years ago, propagated them last year and tehy al grew amazingly - thrived on neglect - unfortunately, I don't think they're Japanese Raisin, but some incredibly fast-growing acaciatype tree, as they bear no resemblance to the pictures I've seen!
Cheers, Di

Time: 9th March 2008 6:51am

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Di says...
Hi Lucy and Kath,

I have just ordered some fruit trees from Daley's and am happy for any extras to come down with my order if you like. I think they're sending next week, so you'd have to let me know fairly fast. My mob is 0414 902 738. A text might be good as I'm out and about a lot. Im sure Daley's wouldn't mind.

The other place that supplies avocacos is Sunraysia Nurseries near Mildura. I have ordered 25 for a bush block from them (for $12.50 each) and am happy to up the number, but they won't come 'til spring

Time: 9th March 2008 7:09am

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Lusy says...
Hi Di

Thank you for your offer. Amy was kind enough to include my order with hers and I contributed to the cost of the freight. We have already received our trees. I planted my avocado last week. It looks very happy although some sort of pest has nibbled at some of the leaves since I planted it. I have placed snail pellets around it and sprayed the plant with pest oil. This seems to be working as no further damage has been done to the leaves.

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Time: 11th March 2008 10:06am

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Dave says...
Di,
the only place l know who has ever had Jujube available is Perry's in SA.

I bought two from them and both are growing and fruiting very well. They are one of my all time favorite fruits!

Time: 11th March 2008 8:30pm

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Tran says...
Hi Di,

Which part of Melbourne are you located? South East? I also want one or two jujubee trees too. If you are not too far from my house then I can share the cost of the freight. I have two jujubee trees I bought few years ago from Perry's in SA. I am very happy with mine.

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juanita says...
I've heard about jujube fruit tree but I have no idea how tall it grows & what the fruits look & taste like?..I don't see them selling in the shops & so w/ white sapotes...!1st time i saw white sapote's tree loaded w/ fruits was in Dr. Glowinski's backyard.

Time: 13th March 2008 11:42pm

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Tran says...
Hi Juanita,

more info on this webpage
http://www.perrysfruitnursery.com.au/jujube.php
By the way, does anyone know if Dr. Glowinski's garden on display this year? and when? Please tell me. I would like to visit his garden. I saw his garden on ABC TV few years ago.

Thanks

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lynne says...
Tran
Yes it is open on Sun 6 Apr as per the following link (about half way down the page)

http://www.opengarden.org.au/regions/vic.htm

Time: 14th March 2008 1:52pm

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Tran says...
Hi Lynne,

Many thanks for your juicy information. Much appreciated. I will go for sure.

Regards

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Anonymous says...
Hi Tran,

Glad everyone got their trees. I got mine too - they seem OK despite today's terrible heat. I'm going to repot them all as they're ready for planting, but the block's not!

Re the Jujubes: I've contacted Perry's and they don't have any this year but they can be ordered for next year, but are $100.00 per tree. I've ordered 5 kgs of jujube fruit from them as I thought I'd try to propagate the seeds. Although I know they don't come true to type from seed, I thought I'd have a go. If anyone would like to taste them, they're arriving after Easter. I thought I'd extract the seed and dry the fruit. Ph no. 0414 902 738.

I contacted Roger Meyer who grows them in California and he says they're not difficult to propagate and that there are growers other than Perry's in SA and WA, so will keep you posted when I find out who they are :)

I put a Hass and Reed in this year and both are doing well; Ryan and Fuerte not so good.

Cheers,
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Tran says...
Hi Di,

Thank you very much for the reply. Much appreciated. You should eat the fruits fresh (very yummy indeed) if you want dry ones just go to Springvale Asian shop they sell only $1 for a big bag. May I ask how much for the 5 kg of Jujube fruit including postage? one of my trees (in the ground) has 2 fruits this year and the other in a pot has about 20 fruits. Unfortunately due to drought I did not look after them well so most of the fruit ripe immaturely and seedless.

I have tried to grow the Indian jujube from seeds I bought from Springvale. They look the same but the texture like a very ripe apple when turn yellow (the chinese would turn brown when over ripe). You can find them growing wild like weed in Townsville. Those are true tropical so I did manage to grow one tree from seed last year but died soon after winter cold. The good news is the Chinese one can cope with temperature of -10C

By the way with jujube you can order the seeds from Eden Seed (9 seeds for $2.5) and to aid the germination you should store your seed in the fridge for 6 weeks. I did grow mine that way. Dr. Glowinski's book said you break the hard cover of a seed will help to speed up the process. I have so far saved only 1 seed from my tree. I am experimenting and see if I can have an extra tree.

My avocado trees : Hass and fuerte are about 1 and a half years just doing just OK. They are in the same hole and drought does not help in term of growing.

All the best with your trees including jujube.

Tran

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Margaret says...
Avocados we have 2 from Daleys Hass and either Bacon or Fuerte (I think it is bacon because of the utterly incredible number of flowers) this is their 3rd season so about 2.5 years in ground..gets lots of underground water in sandy soil (camberwell) and sun all day...both about 5-6m tall and both have half to a dozen big fruit and this is their first year> Cannot recommend to plant more around Melbourne....oh we foliar fertilize only and give extra zinc..Marg

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Tran says...
Well done Margaret! I was told those avocado trees will fruit after 3 years and yours in 2 years that is excellent.
Mine are Hass and fuerte grafted on Bacon root stocks.
It is about 1 m tall with very weak stem. I hope rains will come soon. In the mean time I will give them a feed with a little drink and see what happens.

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Margaret says...
Hi Tran I am thrilled with the growth of mine, at first they were really floppy and spindly, and then after a year in the ground, hassled by cold winds etc, they took off last spring, the hass lost almost all it's leaves the first year and were burnt by the cold the second year, and the bacon was exceptionally floppy...I was told to spray with zinc..which I added to the foliar spray of seaweed, fumic acid and potash, and away they went..got strong and flowered like nothing else...we actually started with hundreds of little fruit all over the palnts but come 3 weeks later almost all had dropped off leaving the dozen or so left..perhaps this is all they can cope with first time around...That was November and now they are 10-12 cm long...looking grouse...now can anyone help with the indian mynah problem....they are eating everything on my trees long before ripening..eg persimmons are being stripped off the trees when they are 1 month old, hard green (and I would have thought highly unpalatable)and about an inch across.... have tried netting, but the number and desperation of the birds is too much...they also had heaps of young....and I thought the bats were a problem!!!!!

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Tran says...
Hi Margaret,

I will follow your method to give my avocado trees a treat and see if they will take off like yours. Thanks for your advice. My persimon trees currently have lots of green fruits about 2 inches across. Every year around April I watch if there is a sign of birds eating the fruits then I use plastic shopping bag to cover them a few fruits at the time until all done. Mine you, some birds break the bag and eat the fruit but 80% of those are ok until June which is not too bad.

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juanita says...
where can i buy bell apple? Pls anyone here knows where to get it from...Thanks

Time: 21st March 2008 12:07pm

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Tran says...
Hi Juanita,

I used to buy those in Springvale Asian shopping centre. I am not sure if they have it now. By the way, I tried this fruit tree twice and manage to produce fruit both time. However, after 2 years they did not survive winter.

Time: 21st March 2008 3:10pm

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juanita says...
Hi Tran,

Growing bell apple tree down here doesn't sound promising & success rate of surviving thru winter is nil??...Im just trying to get this fruit tree for my friend as she's very keen of having one..Where can i buy it from?

Time: 21st March 2008 11:29pm

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Tran says...
Hi Juanita,

I think you can check garden mart inside Garden World in Springvale or Asian shopping centre in Springvale. I bought mine the first time from Daley and the second time from Springvale shopping centre.

Good luck.

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Time: 22nd March 2008 6:32pm

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Amy says...
Just wanted to update the comment I made earlier about Lewis Glowinski's book mentioning his Japanese Raisin didn't fruit. I went to his open garden today (very inspiring) & asked him about it...he said the book needs a big update (long story about the publisher) but yes, his did fruit & it flowers prolificly. Which is good news for those trying it here in Melbourne.

I was astounded how much he has fit into his garden. I was thinking I was going to have to espalier a lot of my trees to get everything in that I would like to try & grow...but his garden just proves you can grow a lot in a suburban backyard.

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Amy says...
If anyone is still looking for some, Bunnings in Cranbourne have bananas (lady finger), tropical guavas & Australian macadamia at the moment. Yummy.

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Julie says...
Hi Amy,

Many thanks for the update on Dr Lewis Glowinski 's garden. I must visit his garden next year on open garden scheme. By the way, any new trees grown successfully that the doctor needs to update his book. I have his book too.

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lynne says...
Louis Glowinski rocks! He is a fruit tree walking encyclopedia, is so willing to share yet modest about this knowledge.
For those who couldn't make it to his open garden, here are some of his recommendations:
saskatoon - some find them to taste better than blueberries
arguta- sweeter than kiwifruit
vista is best white sapote for Melb
lucuma - tastes like dried egg yolk but delicious if used to make milk shakes etc & is preferred to coffee in Peru
wampi - most people who've tasted it like it
strawberry guava - must have in Melbourne garden
chilean guava - flavour bursts in your mouth - consider this over boxed hedge
ice cream bean - if you have limited space, give this one a miss
longans and lychees grow here
southern knights cherimoya don't require hand pollinating but are hard to get and aren't as tasty
Those who were there, please correct me if any of the above is not what was said

With such avast array of practical experience and technical knowledge, the more books he writes the more informed we can be. I think the ABC would be doing a community service if they can convince him to appear more often (on TV and radio where he can take questions).

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Happy Earth says...
The lucuma sounds interesting....I keep reading good things about this fruit but have never come across it for sale.

Does anyone know where you can buy a lucuma fruit tree in Oz? Any plans at Daleys to sell this fruit tree?

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Julie says...
Hi Lynne,
Many thanks for updating the juicy information on the doctor 's recommendations. Much appreciated. I did not know that we can grow lucuma successfully in Melbourne. I bought those fruits around Y2K time in David Jones in the city. They are delicious as sandwich filling. Unfortunately they don't sell them any more. There are plenty in Cairns around September but I have not seen them in Asian shop in Melbourne perhaps due to they are very soft to handle when ripe.

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At the open garden, there were one or two small lucuma plants there. I think they flourish in the part of Peru that has similar climatic conditions to Melbourne, so they should do well here. The hard thing now is getting the plant itself.

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Brendan says...
I spoke with Louis Glowinski at his open garden last weekend and he mentioned that this was likely to be the last time he would participate in the Open Garden Scheme. I also bought a strawberry guava from him that he propogated.

I just bought a Goji berry plant from Gardenworld in Springvale for $19.95 for something different.

Has anyone tasted a babaco fruit? If so what do they taste like? I am considering growing one but want to know if they taste nice first.

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juanita says...
Goji berry plants are also for sale here in one of the nurseries in Werribee.Same price as in Gardenworld..Im glad that i can get it here w/c saves me the trip to Sprinvale...I got babaco but it's not fruiting yet.

Time: 15th April 2008 11:43am

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Rev says...
Babaco is as louis glowinski describes it
nothing like a papaya
more champagne melon
very pleasant and mild
a great breakfast fruit

if only i could grow it! im making a last ditch attempt (inland ) with Papayuelo (Carica goudoutiana)- daleys and Channon markets and Chamburo ( Carica pubescens)- imported seed. Failing that then its quits for carica for me

you lucky melbournites!

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Anonymous says...
Which nursery in Werribee Janita? Have one Goji growing, wouldn't mind getting another couple seeing it's doing well here. Have tried growing them from seeds taken out of dried fruit in packs from supermarket, but never got any to germinate.

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Rev says...
Jujube can be grown using stones
a friend of mine would crack the stones, and those of olives using the proximal end of a pair of secauteurs
before planting is a free draining inert mix- sandy loam/ river sand kep moist and warm
She had chinese and indian jujubes
ive eaten the ones near bowen in qld. dry riverbeds lined with native veg and significant numbers of tamarind and indian jujube and wild birds eye chillis eps in the few km before the mangroves

Id be keen on bacon. even/especially on hass x bacon, baconx hass seed
see wher i am is cold and dry n windter (-5c) yet hot and humid in mid/late summer

Bacon may be cold hardy bu ive been told no nursery man in qld grows it because in warm conditions its very susceptible to multiple diseases

ive read im mexico most village trees are seed grown. this might be the only way.
Though ive seen large mature trees with fruit in toowoomba, qld - if i coud find out what they are then that might be the one for me.

damn it . i was weaned on avos, i just cant settle anywhere these trees wont flourish :D

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juanita says...
To anonymous,
You can get it from grevilla nursery. You can find their phone no in the phonebk...I usually find goji berries in the health food shops not in the supermarket...Which supermarket is selling goji berries?...W/ regards to fertiliser, w/c is the best for goji berry ?

Time: 21st April 2008 1:31am

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Tran says...
You can get dried goji berries in Asian Groceries around Footscray, Richmond and Springvale for about $1 something imported from China. I have grown mine from cuttings bought from these shops. 80 cents a bunch where we cook the leaves and grow the stem. They are very easy to strike. Mine got flowers in 4 months but have not set any fruit yet. It tends to get mildew when it rains too much. Please tell me if your trees have successfully set fruits. What fetirliser to use? I gave it potassium but still not set fruits.

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This is my small potted goji berry w/c i bought few wks ago...I'll be quite happy if it survives thru this winter.

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Tran says...
It looks very healthy too me. It should survive. I have this long leaf type which flowers in 4 months and to my surprise the rounded leaf type busted into flowers after 7 years but still no fruit yet.

Good Luck Juanita.

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juanita says...
I wonder what type of fertilizer might help to initiate fruits set quickly for goji & how much chilling hours it needs?

Time: 29th April 2008 1:33am

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Anonymous says...
Has anyone tried growing wax jambu in Melb?

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Tran says...
Yes, I did try it twice, a couple of years apart. I had some fruits each time but They later died in the second year at winter time.

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Anonymous says...
Thank you Tran - your info is helpful and hard to get growing info on this plant in cool climate. I've heard it grows well in Adelaide. I thought it only need frosts protection when young. I was thinking of getting some and either growing them in pots (move to warmer spot in winter) or plant in ground put plastic over them throughout winter. Now I'm not sure if that will make a difference.... Maybe will put plastic over it every winter and not just when young.

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Tran says...
I did have mine in pot, The first time cover the leaves and the soil. The second time just cover the soil with plastic sheet. Both were under shelter at winter time. They lost all their leaves after first winter, did not come back the second year.

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Anonymous says...
Thanks again Tran. It's a real pity that they won't grow here. You have done more than I would've. So I won't waste time and effort trying this plant here.

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Anonymous says...
Has anyone tried growing Panama berries in Melb?

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juanita says...
Has anyone grown cape gooseberries (one of the lost food plants of the incas) in Melb?...Here's my potted cape gooseberry plant..

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Tran says...
Juanita,

YES, it is a very easy plant to manage. you can put in the ground or in a pot no prob. They cope well with cold weather and produce fruit quickly too.

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Rob says...
Hi Jaanita,

Have the cape gooseberry growing at Smythesdale, west of Ballarat. They are under cover and go a bit ordinary in winter, but come back again in spring.

Have had our first few frosts out here for the year and so far have lost only the jackfruit. Been putting pillar candles under terracotta pots (upside down) next to mango, bananas, macadamia, sapote, canistelle, indian guava and covering with blankets. Looks like a row of tents and neighbours must think we're a bit weird, but things doing ok so far. Candles burn all night and pots give off a good amount of heat under the trees. Rob

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Mary says...
Hi Dave - I have a Japanese Raisin tree about the same age. I'm in the Yarra Valley. I got it from Yamina Rare Plants and the guy there told me he sold one to a woman in Doncaster and it fruited after three years. It is a beautiful tree and seems to weather both cold winters and hot dry summers.

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lynne says...
Rob
You've inspired me to start covering a couple of my trees too. Have you gotten any fruits from the banana and Canistel plants yet? It sounds like you use ordinary blankets to cover them and night and presumably remove them during the day. Have you considered using frost fleece (which can be left on day and night) and/or bubble wrap part of it (eg the sides to let sunlight through during the day but leave top open and maybe cover whole plant at night)? Or do you find blankets to be better?

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juanita says...
Hi! Tran & Rob,
These cape gooseberries taste kind of tart to me..Does it get any sweeter if we leave the berries on the vine for a bit longer? How do you normally eat these berries?
Covered all my nanas, indian guava, curry leaf, young mandarin & babaco as frost was forecasted tonight, while potted white sapote's seedlings, drumstick tree & macademia's are all kept in the gh w/ my orchids.
Rob, sorry to hear your jackfruit didn't make it...will you try another one?

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Tran says...
Hi Juanita,

I would wait for the lantern cover to turn brown before picking the fruit. By that time the fruit should be very yellow. You eat it out of hand. It can be added to salad. Years ago I bought some from David Jones in Burke mall city for $22 per kg. I was told Sydney price is $25/kg.Good luck.
By the way, don't worry about the white sapote because we eat our fruits and throw the seeds in the garden and seedlings cam up every where. I pull them out all the time. I let one grows very tall now. it is in it fifth year and no sign of flowers.
May be another 10 years before I can see any fruit. It would be too long. This is only a trial.

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Anonymous says...
Hi Lynne,
Yes, l uncover the trees every morning. I cover them just before dark at night and uncover in the mornings. I did use a frost protection material l bought on a roll from Bunnings... like a thick tissue, but it ripped off every time the wind hit it. I live on a very windy hill, so had to go for thick plastic out of desperation. Clear plastic on north and west side, black woven weed mat on other 2 sides. Seems to collect a bit of warmth being black.
No fruit on bananas yet. Have dwarf Red Dacca growing outside and 6 other varieties in tubs under a polythene tunnel.
Juanita, my cape gooseberries always taste a bit tart too. And l have a seedling jackfruit in the tunnel house to repace the dead one, but it's not looking too flash right now either :-(
Maybe a bit too much to ask of Ballarat's winter climate.

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Rob says...
Oops... that's me anonymous above... forgot to enter my name sorry :-)

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Steven says...
Hi

A few months ago i was asking if anyone knew where i could obtain some cacao seeds from and a few people asked me if i got any to let them know how they go.

Finally after a lot of searching I found a farm that was willing to send me a couple of pods I planted them about a month ago and now almost all of them have grown. I keep them inside in polystyrene boxes and put boiling water in milk cartons to keep them warm. So far most of them are developing leaves and hopefully they will keep on growing. There are pictures of the seedlings below.

One thing however that I found very interesting was that i placed the leftover seeds in a box outside on top of the hot water until which at most keeps the temperature at the low twenties however even with record low weather for may there are now 16 seeds that have already germinated (but are growing much slower that the ones inside) and are just starting to produce leaves. It would be very interesting to see how they go too.

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Ajay says...
Hi All,
Its great to read about the effort you go through to raise very tropical plants in cool temperate climates - Melbourne. I live in Hoppers Crossing and have successfully grown from seed, the following:
(1) Tamarind (Indica):From seed, 6 seedlings,9" high, facing their first winter.
(2) Murraya Koenigii (Curry leaf): From seed, 5 seedlings, 4" high, have grown these before and they tolerate winter quite
well
(3) Papaya (Paw-Paw): From seed, 6 seeedlings, 8" tall, first winter.
(4) Indian Guava: From seed, 16 seedlings, 3" to 9" tall, first winter.
(5) Custar Apple: From seed, 1 seedling, 5" tall, first winter.
(6) Neem : 12" tall, bought from nursery, first winter
(7) Mango: From seed, 6 seedlings,12" tall, first winter
(8) Longan: From seed, 3 seedlings, 9" tall, first winter
(9) Lychee: From seed, 3 seedlings, 8" tall, first winter.
(10) Jakfruit: From seed, 1 seedling, 10" tall, frist winter
(11) Acerola Cherry: 12" tall, plant from nursery, first winter
(12) Cinnamon (Cinnamomum zeylanicum): 14" tall, plant bought from nursery, first winter
(13) Chikku (manilkara sapot): From seed, 8 seedlings, 4" tall, first winter
(14) Moringa: From seed, 4 seedlings (3 in pot, 1 in ground) 6" tall, first winter
(15) Avacado: 5 seedlings: From seed, 16" tall, have grown outside in winter before.
(16) Carambola: From seed, 3 sprouts (just emerging)

Do any of you have experience with winter conditions for the above plants?


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Ajay says...
Hi Steven,

Wow!, Would you consider trading 1 coacoa seedling with a guava seedling?

Time: 2nd June 2008 1:38pm

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Rob says...
Ajay, l'm interested in the curry leaf you have growing. You say you have grown them before - can l ask what minimum temps they were exposed to?
I'd like to try one, but the ones in the nursery here are fairly expensive, so want to make sure l could grow one before l buy it.

That's an impressive list of seedlings you've raised. Good on you.

I have bacon avocado growing here and has survived snow in it's second year, flowered last spring and still doing well. Wertz avocado doing well with frost, but growth a bit slower. Have a Sharwill just in this year at start of summer so first winter, but has had several heavy frosts and still in leaf.
Indian guava still with new growth but under a blanket at night during winter.

Steven, good luck with the seedlings. They look very healthy. Hope they grow :-) very interesting


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Hi Rob,

Curry leaf are a bit particular with their env before they decide to germinate. But I think I have got it down pat. Use any free draining potting mix, though, I suggest you microwave it on high for about 2-3 minutes.
I use a heated bed of sand to maintain the soil temperature at 22-24 Deg C, and always keep the soil moist.
One more thing I learnt through experimentation, is that the seeds need bright light to germinate faster - cant understand why as they are under the soil level anyway.
I have just germinated 5 seedlings which range from 1" to 4" in height.
Once established, and by this I mean about 12"+ in height, they can survive under shade cloth in winter in a terracota pot - I havent tried keeping them in the ground without cover - too scared of the frost getting them !
Hope this helps.

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Anonymous says...
Thanks Ajay. Might try one and see how it goes.

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juanita says...
Hi Ajay,

How do you heat up the bed of sand to maintain 22c up soil temp? Im thinking of putting my newly acquired Pandanus A on that kind of bed to keep the soil warm.
I have 2 curry leaf plants ( both are seedlings), 1 in ground w/c is over half a metre tall & still growing leaves in this cold weather (2nd winter)...The 2nd potted curry leaf plant was given to me as a gift from Qld is about 7-8 inches tall, is in my mini gh (1st winter)...Im amazed that they thrive very well in our frosty cold Melb winter.


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Ajay says...
Hi Juanita,
I made a wooden box whcih had 2 bulbs inside it and a computer fan. The bulbs provided the heat. covering the box at the top was a sand filled tray (kept most for better heat conduction) onto which I placed the pots. Hope this helps.
BTW, I read on some other post that y ou had a lot of cavendish banana suckers - wondering if you could spare a couple :)



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Steven says...
Hi

I would like to ask everyone if they know how well tropical tree's cope outside during our melbourne winters.

I have quite a few small trees in pots which are close to the house which gives them some warmth and shelter and so far they seem to be coping well however the coldest months are approaching and I'm a little concerned.

I have
1 dwarf caverndish banana
4 coffea arabica
4 mango's
2 guava's
6 pineapples

The most of the tree are still growing (although very slowly) and apart from a little damage from when they were delivered and a little hail damage on the pineapples they seem ok. they are all sheltered from wind and frost so I think they will be ok but if anyone knows how they cope during winter please let me know....Thanks

Hi Ajay.

Where did you get your cinnamon from, I've been looking for a cinnamonum verum but haven't had much luck so far.

Yeah i wouldn't have a problem trading a cacao, although I already have 2 guava's and I wouldn't suggest trading them anytime soon. I would probably wait until towards the end of the year so they get a little bigger (I usually expect around half of the seeds I plant to die). I wouldn't want to trade you something thats just going to die a month later.

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Ajay says...
Hi Steven,

No worries, here is my phone number 0411587396, lets discuss the Cocoa seedlings/trade over the phone. As regards wintering our plants (we are both in a similar situation) , I thought of getting some poly sheets and covering the space between the side of my house and the fence, thereby providing a sheltered space while at the same time allowing sunlight in - I have a north facing side of the house. For heating, I will be using an alcohol lamp over which I will place an inverted terracota pot to evenly distribute the heat. I will leave the lamp burning all night. I would suggest placeing the lamp in a tray of water so that if amy spils occur or the lamp should get knocked over, the water in the tray will prevent fire from spreading - remember that alcohol does not float on water, it disolves in it.
As regards Cinamon, here is the address:
http://www.allrareherbs.com.au/plants/plant-list/

Hope this helps.

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Tran says...
Hi Steven,

My coffee arabica has been in a small pot for 5 years (50 cm tall). I have not covered it in winter at all. I thought I lost it last year but new shoots came back this year so I think yours would be ok. The same with banana. With pineapple I shelter them every year under veranda until November and make sure no watering from the top because the cold and the water in the rossete will kill the plant. In fact I don't water them at all during that time. I have fruits every year by forcing them to flowers after 18 months.
I tried to plant pineapple in the garden and they did not make it due to the cold and wet winter soil.

Good luck

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Hi Ajay,

I already gave you an answer to your question...Pls refer to rare fruit swap thread.

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Steven says...
Hi Tran

Thanks for that, the coffee trees should be ok then, they are the only ones i am really concerned about.

I planted two pineapples in the garden during summer and so far they are ok but not the best. the hot sun weakened one during summer and it hasnt really recovered and now their leaves are burnt from hail. But i spread some dynamic lifter around them and they seem to have picked up a bit so hopefully they'll be ok.

During the growing season I would feed my tropical plants seasol and fish emulsion once a week and they seem to respond very well to that. they all grew quite well and looked very healthy. A stong tree would obviously be much more resistant to everything, including climate. So i though id point that out.

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juanita says...
It just occured to me that i've grown Pommelos or shaddocks (2nd winter), moringa oleifeira (2nd winter), white sapotes & star apple/caimito (2nd winter) all from seeds quite successfully.

Time: 5th June 2008 7:41pm

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Anonymous says...
Hi Steven,
Regarding tropical plants outside - I live just outside Ballarat, so you know how cold that gets. Colder than Melbourne. Banana doing well but covered with polythene tunnel, no heat. One planted outside needs cover and flower pot with candle during frost. Hawaiian and indian guava thriving without warmth, just an old sheet thrown over plants on clear nights. Jaboticaba, white sapote, macadamia, custard apple all outside in open with cover on cold nights. So far ok. Mango and canistelle ok outside with flower pot/ candle and covered with sheet. Rollinia, dragon fruit, grumichama, rose apple, Brazilian cherry outside in unheated poly tunnel and ok. Jackfruit doing well until -2 then dropped dead.

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Ajay says...
Oh !, Jackfruit dropped dead ! OK, this has spurred me into some serious weekend work. Am going to build a poly covered area at the side of my house and ensure that a alcohol lamp is lit through the night...

Time: 6th June 2008 10:34am

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Anonymous says...
The Jacks not worth it and will grow to tall. Try some paws, star apples, star fruit instead. John
I have had thge same problems.

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Following Tran's tip, I've been moving the more frost sensitive fruit trees (still in pots) into the brick garage at night. The temperature the garage has been 4 degrees warmer than outside each morning. I plan to grow these in bigger pots and not in the ground. (BTW Flower Power in Chadstone currently have premium potting mix at 75% off - $2 from $8). Here is a list of some trees that can be grown in pots http://www.crfg.org/tidbits/container.html
In addition to taking them indoors at night, I'll put stakes around them and wrap them in bubble wrap throughout winter (I believe bubble wrap retains more heat than thinner plastic sheets - per the link to article on frost in the thread "Keeping plants warm in winter". For bigger trees grown in the ground that are extremely frost sensitive, I think they can be wrapped in horticultural fleece throughout winter. (With favourable exchange rates and the US & UK heading into summer, it's a good time to buy these o/s). That's the theory of frost protection anyway. John - you haven't been able to get star apples to fruit here have you? Would you very interested if you have (I thought even Southern Qld is too cold for them)

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Steven says...
Hi everyone

I had an idea the other day and i thought i would share it with everyone here in case anyone was interested. I was thinking of how your could cheaply and easily keep young tropical trees warm during winter and i thought a good way to do this would be to build a simple greenhouse (four stakes and a plastic sheet) but build it in a way as to incorporate your hot water unit inside the greenhouse. The hot water unit would then provide a constant supply of heat and humidity with out having to buy a heater or worry about maintaining a burner and would not cost you any extra as your hot water unit would be running anyway.

You could even build a proper greenhouse and design it in a way as to put you hot water unit inside it as a heat source.

Anyway i just thought id share that with everyone....let me know what you think of the idea.

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Anonymous says...
That's a good idea Steven. We built a poly tunnel last spring, but it's a bit away from the house. Might try doing a small one off the back of the house over the hot water cylinder (hope it doesn't melt the plastic :-) )and test your theory.

We used steel fence droppers and threaded poly pipe onto it for a cheap way to build a greenhouse. Was so sturdy we added a front and back by bolting some cheap pine straight onto the pipe. Covered it in cheap plastic sheeting, then ended up covering it all in shadecloth. Use it now to keep bananas and seedling mangos etc alive over winter. Pity we hadn't thought of doing it over the hot water at the time. Still, we poshed it up with a concrete path down the middle, and some raised brick edged beds. Keeps fairly warm at night due to the heat buildup during the day.

This has been a great forum. have learnt a lot from all you guys. Hope it keeps going for a while yet. Very interesting hearing about what you are able to grow. Gives me hope out here in the windy hills at Smythesdale.
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Marg says...
Steven, I built a little poly house next to my gas heater it is a high efficiecy and blows steam all the time so I figure that the warmth and humidity will keep things ticketty poo in pots over winter...heres hoping..trouble is I don't keep the heater on over night...mmmmm
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Steven says...
Hi Anonymous

Yeah i think it would work. most of the heat is lost off the top of the hot water unit. i have a polystyrene box one top of it to germinate some cacao seeds, seems to be working ok (however they are growing very slowly) and nothing has melted. but just to be safe i would probably keep everything clear of it.

Your greenhouse looks good. im planning to build one too, its going to be built with steel fence posts with a gable roof 6m x 8m x 4.5m high in the middle. What do you think? would you mind me asking how much it cost to build yours?

Hi marge, as long as your greenhouse heats up enough during the day (which it most likely would) it shouldnt get too cold at night. but if your concerned a cheap way to solve that could be to put a couple of large containers full of water (e.g. a garbage bin) inside the greenhouse to act as a thermal reservoir.

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Anonymous says...
Hi Steven,
Rob here - for some reason l keep coming up as anonymous :-(
I think we spent about $220 for the poly pipe for the frame, but bought a whole roll, so probably enough for 2 more the same size. The plastic cover was $18 a metre, but is about 7 or 8 metres wide (called igloo plastic) and is uv stabilised to last for many years. The shadecloth was left over from another project, and we only had to buy a small piece to finish it. Already had the steel droppers, and they were the taller ones, so we could belt them well down into the soil for stability. Used second hand bricks for the raised beds, and they were free. had to buy a couple of bags of cement powder and a small load of gravel for the path. I guess all up it's cost about $400 - $500. Could have used cheaper plastic, but didn't come in that width and didn't want to have to replace it after a short while. It's about 8 metres long, about 4 metres wide, and about 2.5 metres high (or taller).
Wanted a big inside area so temperature fluctuations were not as rapid. It stays warm even on frosty nights, and the young mangos, my babaco, bananas etc haven't suffered without added heat. The raised soil beds seem to hold a bit of the warmth in.

If you buy the agricultural pipe for the frame, make sure it's wide enough bore to go over the droppers. About 2.5 inches l think from memory

If ever you up this way you're more than welcome to come check it out.

And, can anyone tell me if Canistelle will come back if they get defoliated?
The candle went out under the flower pot during a pretty heavy frost. It's still got a branch at the base of the plant with leaves, but a bit burnt at the tips, and the whole top of the tree has lost it leaves and looking a bit miserable.

And a question about Golden Fruit of the Andes... only a small plant, but the leaves nearly all dropped off, and looks a bit soft and dark at the tips. Anyone know if they go completely dormant in winter? think it will come back again?
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Steven says...
Hi Rob

So it only cost you $500 to build a greenhouse that big. Ive been looking for prices and its going to cost about $1500 for one 6m wide x 8m long x 4.5 high. Where did you get the poly pipe from? So far the best way i have found to do it is to use steel fence poles and with a gable roof, but its going to cost about $750 just for the frame.

If you could give me a few contacts that would be very helpful.

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Time: 12th June 2008 10:59am

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Hi Steve,
I got the poly pipe at a rural store here in Ballarat. Think it was Bridges and Wade in Latrobe St. They sell all sorts of agricultural pipes and tanks etc. Was cheaper to buy the whole roll than just by the metre. We usually get our droppers from Elders Rural Supplies here in Ballarat. Think they are about $8 from memory for the tallest size. But we already had them from a fence we pulled down, so didn't have to add that to the cost. They tunnel plastic came from Gay's Hardware in Gillies St Ballarat. They usually have it on a roll and cut off whatever you need. That and the pipe frame were the most expensive items. The pine straps we used to stabilise the top and sides were about $2 a 2 metre length from a demolition yard.

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Ajay says...
Hi All,

I have sown 10 seeds of Cashew nut on the 7th of this month. I am maintaining the soil temparature at 25Deg C. The soild is offcourse always kept moist. Am keeping my fingers crossed on this one !

Time: 12th June 2008 2:38pm

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Rob says...
That will be interesting Ajay.
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julie says...
Dear all,

I know it's not related with what this forum is about, but maybe some of u know the information i need. I'm looking for to buy guava leaves. If anyone know where i can buy them please inform me.Thanks a lot.

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Anonymous says...
Why?

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justjuice says...
This is a great forum. Am planning a garden right now, so the info has been really useful. The first trees I'm going to get in the ground are feijoas (aka pineapple guava) - I'm from NZ and we Kiwis grew up on them.

I have a few questions, if anyone can help:
1) I saw mention of the lucuma. From the description it sounds like a canistel. Is it the same, or if not, does it taste the same?
2) Has anyone successfully grown longans (with fruit)? Any idea whether you can espalier or fan it?
3) Any black sapote successes in Melbourne?

And to answer someone's question about what a babaco tastes like: tastes like lemonade or champagne. Very refreshing. I tried it at Tropical Fruit World near Tweed Heads - would recommend visiting that place if you're in the area, although some seasons are better than others. You should see the massive Linda avocados they have there. Wonder if we can get them from somewhere?

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juanita says...
I think guava leaves have healing properties coz i remember the old folks back home use it for cleaning cuts/wounds...Boil the leaves & use the liquid as disenfectant.

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julie says...
The guava leaves can be used for some diseases treatment. U are right Juanita. I need it for that purpose. So if someone has any information where i can find them. It'll be really helpful. Thanks

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Steven says...
Hi Rob.

Thanks alot for that information. i will definitely look into that. I didnt think about using poly pipe.

Julie, why dont you buy a couple guava trees. They grow fine in melbourne, youll have nice fruit and all the leaves you want. They arent hard to get. Daleys has them and im sure plenty of nursery around have them also.

Steven

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juanita says...
Hi Julie,

You can buy guava trees from Bunnings & other nurseries comes summer.Steven is quite right, guavas thrive well in Melb, in fact i got 1 small tree in my backyard.

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Rob says...
Does it have to be a particular type of guava? Have Hawaiian and Indian here. Interesting to find another use for it. Would be welcome to my leaves Julie, but only very small trees as yet.
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juanita says...
I think any type of guava leaves can be used as natural antiseptic.

Time: 15th June 2008 1:41pm

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Ajay says...
Hi All,
Does anyone know about mamoncillo (Melicoccus bijugatus) in terms of where a plant/seed material can be obtained, or whether anyone has a plant from which a cutting can be made ?

Time: 17th June 2008 11:06am

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Tran says...
This fruit looks very much like a rambai. You could find rambi tree in Tropical north private garden but not commerciallize anywhere.

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Ajay says...
Hi Tran,

I am on the lookout for any seed from the Indian Jujube. Do you have any fruit that I could use ? Thanks.

Time: 18th June 2008 12:02pm

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Tran says...
I can't remember clearly which season but I have seen Indian jujube sold in Springvale for 14 per kg and I bought some and planted one tree and lost it over winter. When I see them again I will alert you. I have chinese jujube but most of them seedless and season finished now the trees are domant. I only colected 2 seeds this season and planted 3 months ago and They have not come up yet. You have to put seeds in the fridge for 6 weeks, then break the stone to help with the sprouting.

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Ajay says...
Hi Tran,
As you tell from my location, I'm Hoppers crossing which is at the other end. i was wondering if when you had the chance to come accross some Indian Jujube, you could contact me and I could get some off you?
I visit this site regularly.

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Tran says...
Hi Ajay,

If I see indian jujube in Springvale then you should see them in Footscray ( which must be closed to your house) too. All the Asian shops in footscray sell the same thing as Springvale. Anyway, I will let you know.

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Ajay says...
Thanks for that Tran !

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james says...
hello, can any body tell me if the Ambarella tree (Hog Plum) will grow and fruit in Melbourne. cheers james

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Tran says...
I had mine for 3 years and it was getting smaller every year and at the end did not survive even though I covered the soil in winter and it was under black cloth

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Steven says...
Hi Everyone

I heard a couple of years ago from a nursery that because the climate of melbourne is different from the tropics its not necessary to have two Avocado trees to pollinate the flowers. I have 2 Hass seedlings at the moment and I wanted to ask if anyone knew if this was true or should i get a couple of sheppard seeds in summer.

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Tran says...
In my neiboughood, 1 km apart there are two houses with this tree. One, a hass tree with lots of fruit and the other a fuette with a mix of cocktail and normal fruits.It proves that you don't need two. people said that if you have two varieties then the chance to have more fruit is much better. I hope that help.

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2 types of avocadoes w/in the vicinity can pollinate each other.

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lynne says...
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Lucuma has been described as having a similar taste to canistel. Problem is finding the Lucuma plant. If you don't already have it - Louis Glowinsky's book has in depth information about fruits that can be grown in Melbourne.

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Steven says...
Hi Tran

Thanks alot, that is alot of help. i think ill get a sheppard this summer anyway just to help with pollination.

I was told that because melbourne is not a tropical climate then the avocado flower opens up both its male and female parts of the flower for about 2 hours a day. However I have no way to prove that thats true.

The hass are doing very well though, one its about 1m tall. At the start of spring last yeah it was tiny with a few small leaves.

Thanks

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Tran says...
You are welcome. I think you may need to read this piece pf info. I investigated and found hass and fuette or Shawill are compatible in term of flowering time/momth. I have 2 trees in 1 hole: hass and fuette.

Good luck.

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Steven says...
Hi Tran

I have never heard of those varieties. maybe i should inquire into that as they may be nicer than Sheppard.

I would also like to ask. does anyone know of any good/cheap places in Melbourne where you can get irrigation and/or greenhouse supplies.

Thanks alot

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lynne says...
Steven
I've found a couple of places that may have some of the materials you're looking for (at discount prices). If you want to email me cclynne@gmail.com I can go into further details

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Steven says...
Hi everyone

Just thought id let you all know of an idea i got from the abc website.

I was having problems growing my cacao seedlings. The new leaves were always turning brown and falling off so i made a simplefungicide made of 1 liter of water, 1 drop of vegetable oil, a drop of detergent and two teaspoons of bicarb or soda and so far it seems to be helping alot. the cacao seeds are growing very slowly because its winter but the new growth doesnt seem to die off anywhere near as much so hopefully it has worked.

So if you need a cheap mild fungicide then try that.

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Tran says...
Thanks for the hints Steven. I will apply to my summer vine soon.

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Anonymous says...
Too cold in Melbourne so you can not grow tropical fruit trees.

You can resolve this problem by moving up to Cairns where you could buy a brick house on 600 m2 block for less than $250,000 and about less than 10 kms from the Cairns city.

You can grow any thing you like or even better you just drive to Rusty market at CBD and buy almost every tropical fruit in the whole world including durian and mangosteen.

How good is that? I have just bought a house and will be there permanently soon.

By the way, I have seen people moving in from all over Australia to Cairns lately.

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Anonymous says...
Hope you enjoy your move, but not everyone can uproot and move across the country. Some of us just have to stay put and battle with the cold - l enjoy a challenge anyway.

Rob

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Les says...
Hi Ajay & Tran. You state that you grow your curry leaf by seeds. Could you please help me find some seeds as I have been searching every where with no luck.
Thanks
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Time: 13th August 2008 4:54pm

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Tran says...
Those seeds are not in season any more. You have to wait until next year around March onward.

Time: 14th August 2008 7:50am

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marie says...
Hi Margaret, I also have macadamia trees I have two both have produced nuts but I was wondering do they need to be sprayed for any diseases and how do you look after yours. Mine are about 5 years old, one of them only started bearing fruit last year while the other one has for the last 3 years. and they are about three metres high

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Janet Cheriton says...
Macadamia growers in Melbourne...which cultivars are you growing please? I'm confused about which one may be most reliable here.
Any advice much appreciated, and do I need two?

Time: 18th August 2008 2:04pm

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David Johnson says...
Janet,

I have a four year old Beaumont Macadamia which fruited for the first time last year (three nuts!). It is now developing many flowers so hopefully this year will be better. I have read that having two differnet cultivars will aid greatly in pollination. They can become very big trees but can be pruned fairly hard.

Regards

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Time: 20th August 2008 6:25pm

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Kate says...
I have a dwarf cavendish banana tree I bought before winter. It has been frost damaged and the leaves are now limp and going brown & black. Anyone know if it can be rescued the stem is still looking fairly healthy. Now the weather is warming up, I have my fingers crossed. It's about 60cm tall.
Any advice appreciated.
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Time: 29th August 2008 1:08pm

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Tran says...
Hi Kate,

Don't worry about that. they will grow back soon. I have two kinds of banana in my garden and they don't look good every winter but return to greeny stage around November.

Good luck.

Time: 29th August 2008 1:49pm

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Margaret says...
re macadamia growers of Melbourne
I am growing A14
and they are loving it at the moment...huge amount of rich new growth with this luverly rain we are getting!!!!
there are 3 old trees locally and the one that is hard pruned to 3 metres is the best cropper...it is also in the full blast of sun.

My bananas luckily do not go black but they do look very ordinary...hower not to fret, as I know by November they will be growing big green banana leaves again.
And if you have been following this thread, my clove treeling has survived the winter!!!!!!

Time: 30th August 2008 7:12pm

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juanita says...
I got my dwarf red dacca banana plant from BigW last summer.

Time: 14th September 2008 1:36am

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Kirst says...
Hi...I have been reading the banana post on this forum with interest. I had a small banana 'forest' growing along a fence in my yard last year but chopped it down because it was invading my other fruit trees. Not sure what the variety is as it was planted before I moved in. I have lived in this house for 6 years now and they have fruited every year but the bananas are very small and only a few in each bunch ripens (they did taste good but I still couldn't pick the variety). My neighbour covered his bunches in black plastic bags so this might help the whole bunch ripen better. My experience is that as far as backyard food crops they are not the most productive for the space they take up though (leaves are good for steaming with...)

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Time: 15th September 2008 2:11pm

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Jantina says...
Hi Kirst,any chance of buying, borrowing, or stealing a bit of your banana forest? I am very keen to try some Thanks Jantina

Time: 15th September 2008 6:56pm

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Rob says...
Hi Siva,
Red Dacca were available during summer from Woolworths, Kmart, Bunnings, Dahlsen's hardware, and a few local nurseries here. Originally marketed as "Cool Bananas" and came from Humphris wholesale nursery in Mooroolbark... have the address listed in previous post way up near the top of this page

Banana planted outside had cover blown off in storm a few weeks ago, then got snowed on - looking mighty dead :-(

The ones in the poly tunnel are doing ok, few brown leaves, but new growth coming on them with the few warm spring days we've had.

Candle burnt to ground under the pot l had warming the canistelle, and set fire to the mulch - cremated it :-(

Mango still with leaves, macadamia thriving, jaboticaba, white sapote, and guavas all alive and well...curry leaf lost a few leaves, but shooting again. Snow didn't kill as much as l thought it would have

babaco lost it's last leaf this week, but looks like it's going to shoot again
Guess l need to cut the top off now and strike cuttings?

Rob

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Ajay says...
Hi All,
My damage list:
(1) Tamarind (Indica):From seed, 6 seedlings,9" high, facing their first winter - SUCESSFULL
(2) Murraya Koenigii (Curry leaf): From seed, 5 seedlings, 4" high, have grown these before and they tolerate winter quite
well - LOST ALL LEAVES, BUT IS CAPABLE OF REGENERATION
(3) Papaya (Paw-Paw): From seed, 6 seeedlings, 8" tall, first winter- SUCESSFULL
(4) Indian Guava: From seed, 16 seedlings, 3" to 9" tall, first winter- SUCESSFULL, ACTUALLY GREW 4 INCHES !!
(5) Custar Apple: From seed, 1 seedling, 5" tall, first winter.- SUCESSFULL, NO CHANGE IN GROWTH
(6) Neem : 12" tall, bought from nursery, first winter-LOST ALL LEAVES, BUT LOADS OF NEW BUDS NOW!!
(7) Mango: From seed, 6 seedlings,12" tall, first winter - SUCESSFULL
(8) Longan: From seed, 3 seedlings, 9" tall, first winter- SUCESSFULL
(9) Lychee: From seed, 3 seedlings, 8" tall, first winter.- SUCESSFULL
(10) Jakfruit: From seed, 1 seedling, 10" tall, frist winter - DEAD :(
(11) Acerola Cherry: 12" tall, plant from nursery, first winter - LOST ALL LEAVES, BUT FEW SHOOTS NOW.
(12) Cinnamon (Cinnamomum zeylanicum): 14" tall, plant bought from nursery, first winter - LOST ALL LEAVES, BUT FEW SHOOTS NOW.
(13) Chikku (manilkara sapot): From seed, 8 seedlings, 4" tall, first winter- SUCESSFULL
(14) Moringa: From seed, 4 seedlings (3 in pot, 1 in ground) 6" tall, first winter - ON THE BRINK OF SURVIVAL :`|
(15) Avacado: 5 seedlings: From seed, 16" tall, have grown outside in winter before.- SUCESSFULL
(16) Carambola: From seed, 3 sprouts (just emerging) - SUCESSFULL

I have added a Piper Nigrum (spice pepper) to my collection !! growing beautifully

Time: 16th September 2008 10:55am

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Janet Cheriton says...
Margaret, Thanks. I've been advised to grow A4, but still feel uneasy. Any difference between your cultivar and A4 do you think?

Time: 16th September 2008 1:48pm

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Kirst says...
Hi Jantina...you are welcome to dig some of the small ones out. My brother chopped them to the ground about a year and a half ago but I didn't dig out the roots so they have sent out fresh young ones about 1m high now. I think after they fruit that is what you have to do anyway. I have bananas in another part of my backyard but they have never taken off like these...apart from location the only other difference is that I have built up the soil into a slightly raised bed for my other fruit trees and they would also get a bit of the fertilizer and mulch when I feed these.
I live on the sth Eastern side of Melb and I noticed your location said SA???

Kirst

Time: 17th September 2008 4:05pm

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Jantina says...
Hi Kirst, yes I live at Caroline (below Mt. Gambier) but my sister lives in Ringwood and we visit every so often.Thank you very much for your kind offer I would like to take you up on it.My email is jantinarohde@activ8.net.au thanks Jantina

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Asha says...
Hi Ajay, How did you get the seeds for the drumstick tree? I want to plant one in a pot in my backyard - I live in the inner city, so not much ground to plant the tree. Anyone have any ideas how this would work?

I have asked Daley's to let me know when a plant is available, but listening to the comments, getting one plant is probably too expensive.

Asha

Time: 24th September 2008 3:44pm

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Margaret says...
Hi Janet oops mine is A4 They are brilliant..

And thank goodness the real icy cold seems to have gone, and cross fingers no losses at all this year thanks to the poly house and heater advice.

Now I am about to plant the sugar cane which is shooting etc.
I can put it where it will always be damp but shady for much of the day or sunny all the time but will need water..
any advice??

And my avocadoes are touching the ground with so much flower on them
Has anyone grown dragon fruit? what conditions do they like..
cheers Marg

Time: 28th September 2008 11:48am

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Tran says...
Hi Margaret,

Sugar cane loves grass clipping stuff and also water well in Summer. You treat them as big grass that what I am told. To grow those, place trunks flat with eyes on the sides and cover with soil on Sunny spot.
I grow dragon fruit (5 years) but nevr seen any flowers. I was told they flower when there are lots of rain so I am going to try to give plenty of water and see if it busts into flower.

Good luck.

Time: 28th September 2008 2:00pm

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Margaret says...
Thanks Tran and I'll give the dragons a whirl as well in the same spot...it is very warm and I should be able to keep it most as well..

Time: 29th September 2008 1:06pm

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Janet says...
Thanks Margaret. I'm onto getting an A4 now.But sugar cane? You're kidding!!
My avocado has suddenly grown enormous, and has funny flower heads on top of the branches. It hasn't ever flowered before, and I was on the point of digging it out. Can this mean that I might at last get fruit? But at that height, I've got no chance of picking it I'm afraid, unless I hire an elevating lift.
Cheers.

Time: 1st October 2008 11:13am

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Jason says...
Jantina, I could cut you a sucker off a Lady Finger banana. It probably will fruit, but it's not IDEAL for Mount Gambier. I have a few other much better cold climate varieties but I wont be able to offer you anything from those for a couple of years at least

Time: 2nd October 2008 4:34am

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Thao says...
Hi Tran,

Did you grow Acerola (Indian cherry) from seed or you buy the plant from a nursery? Does the plant produce a lot of fruits?

I'd like to grow Acerole but don't know how big the pot should be. Can you please show me a photo of your Acerola pot and tell me how to take care of the plant? I'd like to have more information about Acerola before I decide to grow it.

Thank you very much.

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Tran says...
Hi Thao,

I bought 2 trees from Daleys at the same time. One of them gave me plenty of fruit (between 10 to 50 fruits each time) a couple of times in Summer. the other had a very light crop in the first couple of years. Last year I think it was my fault to give them too much lime and the one that had heavy crop did not survive. I now have only one left and that one has started given me more fruit then before.
It is in a big pot but I suppose to replace some of the soil every couple of years and I have not done so. It may be the reason one of them did not make it because I gave both the same amount of lime. Then again I am not sure. I know for sure that if you don't replace the soil, salt left over from fertiliser would kill them.
They only produce flowers starting from October and finish about April. The more water you give it the more flowers they produce. their flowers are very beautiful. Please note that 95% of them don't set fruit but it is OK because I just want to have some because I missed them. I used to eat lots when I was young in my home town.
I will post photos later.

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Kate says...
Thanks Tran,
Now the worst of the cold weather is over my Banana is starting to look much healthier a new leaf has shot up out of the dead looking stem this week. Hope it keeps going.

Time: 3rd October 2008 12:45am

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Thao says...
Hi Tran,

I wonder how long it'll take the plant to produce fruit and what kind of fertiliser you give the plant. Does the plant need a lot of sun? It's a lot of questions, isn't it?

Anyway, thank you for your information. Look forward to seeing the photo of your plant.

Thao

Time: 3rd October 2008 9:44am

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Margaret says...
Janet, brilliant your avocado will most likely set fruit..we first had hundreds of little ones but most fell off leaving about 12..which I reckon is fine first year..
Our fuerte (or is it a zutano?) too is absolutely covered in flowers, to the point of drooping...and even though we see a couple of bees pollinating, it does seem that flies are the main pollinators..this avocado has a very heavy musky fragrance.
The Hass on the other hand poor baby has had a hard time of winter but it will come good and has been pruned by possums. Hass has a lot less flowers, I'd estimate only a tenth of the other, but they got the same number of fruit.
Now with the height, off with their heads!!! I have seen heavily pruned avocados so don't be shy..

cheers Marg

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Margaret says...
Oh I forgot the sugar cane survived the winter perfectly. It was a new plant in late autumn, hey and the cats love chewing the new shoots.

Marg

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Thao says...
Hi Tran,

Thanks a lot for you information and pictures. Your Acerola plant looks very big. It's grown in the same big pot like Jujube, isn't it?

I like Jujube as well. I bough some jujube fruits from Flemington market in Sydney and saved some seeds to grow. I think it's better to order a plant. Did you order Jujube from Daleys? Does the plant need lots of sun? Is it easy to take care of the plant?

I used to eat lots of Acerola and Jujube when I was in Vietnam. I hope I can grow them successfully here.




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Tran says...
Hi Thao,
I bought my jujube trees (one on the ground) from
PERRY'S FRUIT and NUT NURSERY
McLaren Flat, South Australia 5171
PH 08 8383 0268 Fax 08 8383 0503
email perrys@adelaide.on.net
Daleys don't sell them. I bought $35 per tree but I think it is now about $100 plus delivery cost.

The Jujube tree is now in 80cm in diameter pot. The Acelora tree is in 55 cm pot, so far it has been under shade cloth so if I change to bigger pot it may not fit under the cloth so I may have to change the soil instead.
With Chinese jujube I never saw fresh ones in VN. The one we have in VN is Indian jujube which is now declared weed in QLD. The chinese variety I have is very cold hardy. It could stand up to -2c and always under full sun. I give them some fertilizer once a year and some water, that is all.
Good luck and I am sure you can grow them in Sysney because Melbourne is much colder.

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Thao says...
Hi Tran
I thought your Jujube is Indian one. The jujube I bought from Flemington market in Sydney is the Indian one and that's the one we have in VN.

I'll try to grow Acerola first and then I will consider about the Chinese jujube.

Thank you very much for your help.


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Ajay says...
Hi Thao,

Could you please post me some of the seed, I have tried to get the Indian Jujube here in Melbourne, but have been unsuccessfull. I only get the Chinese jujube which I am not interested in. In India we ge the exact same jujbe you are talking about in VN.

Please let me know what your postage costs are. I would be interested in 20 seeds If you can please.

Thanks

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Ajay says...
Hi Taho,

I forgot, you could contact me 0458580062 If you want and we can discuss.

Thanks a lot !

Time: 7th October 2008 9:01am

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Anonymous says...
Hi Jason, Thankyou for the very kind offer which I will definitely be taking you up on.Apologies for the delay in responding, we are currently in Japan with some students of my husbands karate school and this is the first time I have been near a computor for 10 days, they are all at evening training and this is my opportunity to get my fruit forum fix.I would be very interested to know what else you are successfully growing at Portland, I was talking to a man from there over winter and he said he got some light frosts there, do you?Maybe I can swap you something for a banana sucker?I have yacon, root vegetable, or occa a root vegetable too.We are staying at Okayama which is a fairly large city.The climate has 4 distinct seasons but it is more extreme than at home,and the summer is not only hot but very humid, nevertheless I see things growing here that also grow at home e.g. persimmon.There is lots of evidence of keen food growers here with rice paddies on any vacant spot,they also have lots of taro growing and what looks like a variety of winter greens starting off.Unfortunately my Japanese leaves a lot to be desired and the gardeners do not speak much English so its hard to get much detail. I found a fruit on a stall yesterday which is about 12 cm long ,shaped like a slightly lumpy oval,and mauve/purple in colour, inside it has a slightly bitter pith and inside that a sweet pulp somewhat like a passionfruit only its colourless and lacks the passionfruit tang, quite palatable though.The seeds look like passionfruit seeds.So far no Japanese people have been able to recognize and name it for me, so if this rings a bell for anyone please let me know what it is.Thanks again Jason and I will contact you when we get back. Jantina

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Jason says...
Yeah we have a few frosts, But nothing serious. I'm growing or have grown or have killed pretty much everything talk about on here. Currently I'm just sticking to Avocaods, White sapotes and Cherimoyas and the usual temperate fruits. I had alot of tubers but "bush rats" decided they liked to eat them and I ended up with alot of damage to my trees, I might even loose a decent size Cherimoya which I grew from seed I collected in Mexico so I'm not happy about that. So no more tubers :).

There's 3 or 4 rare fruit guys in Portland and a few more over near Warrnambool. I was amazed in Japan how they will use any 5 meter patch of dirt in a carpark or beside the highway to jam in a vegge patch :) no wasted land going on there. Meanwhile you can drive from here to Melbourne and see 400kmx200km of nothing but one cow here one cow there, pretty much nothing, Massive difference. Japan probably grow more food in 10kmx10km that we manage in 100x100

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Pacific Islander says...
Has anyone had success growing Pacific Taro and if so, grateful if you will share some tips on cultivation.

Time: 8th October 2008 9:04am

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Thao says...
Hi Ajay,
I just bought a few of Indian jujube because it was quite expensive at that time. The fruit was very small so I saved 3 biggest seeds to grow. I'm waiting to see if I'm successful.

I'll let you know when the next season come. Hope it'll be cheaper so I can buy a lot and share with you some of the seed.

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Ajay says...
Hi Thao,

Sorry, I should have mentioned but I would pay for the fruit as well... ;-)

Time: 9th October 2008 9:48am

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Jantina says...
Hi Jason,I put the fruit question to the general forum and Phil has identified it as an akebia, an apparently very hardy vine.You have a good point about the bush rats, we have lots of them as well as other native wildlife.So far they have left my vegetables alone, probably because we fenced it off carefully to keep the chooks out.I did have jerusalem artichokes planted outside the vegie garden and the poteroos dug them up and ate the lot, as well as all my freesias and babianas etc,at least I thought it was the poteroos but maybe the bush rats were the culprits.Today we used our Japan rail pass to go down to Nagasaki and back purely so I could check out all the little vegie gardens along the track .Very inspirational.I can see though that we will have to fence off some more ground if I want to try growing taro with bush rats around.Our other biggest problem has been rabbits and we had to wire off all the trees as they were getting stuck into the bark.I have a cherimoya but its still in a pot as I have not had the nerve to plant it after a an american paw paw I planted died and I read they need some symbiotic stuff in the soil which obviously I do not have.I got another paw paw from Perrys at Kangarilla but have not been game to plant that yet either.Have you tried any pidgeon peas where you are?Wampi?heard that was tough.Thought I would add lotus, pidgeon peas,and taro to my try it list this year.My husband says he grew lotus successfully in a previous garden here near the Mt.but only as an ornamental, he never harvested it.If you havent lost all your enthusiasm perhaps you could grow yacon and occa in a big pot with some netting over the top?If its o.k. with you here is my home email address and if you send me your phone no.I can ring you when we get back.Thanks Jantina.email jantinarohde#activ8.net.au the # is supposedto be an at but I cannot get this Japanese keyboard to bring it up.

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Steven says...
Hi Everyone

I just got back from my trip to Europe, it was amazing up there, and it was funny to see bananas growing almost throughout Italy. It sad to see how wasteful we are in Australia with our land though. All you see in Europe is beautiful country side of, vines, olives, and fresh produce. in Australia all you can find is dead grass and a few cows.

My trees are looking quite good, (ive got, 4 coffee, 3 mango, 2 avacado, 2 guavas, a banana, 6 pineapples, and cacao seedlings). Ive read that many people's have died or died back almost completely. I had most of mine up against the west side of my house under a bit of shade and sheltered from strong winds but still in a quite open space and other than looking a bit weathered they all are fine. I think the best thing to do is water and fertilize them heaps during the growing season that way they can 'fatten' up for winter (like an Alaskan bear). I give them a weekly dose of seasol and liquid fertilizer during the growing season and water them almost every day, i also use manure a few times a year.

Also I would like to ask if anyone knows of where i can buy a kit to grow Porcini mushrooms??

Thanks

Steven

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Jon says...
Hey everyone.

I'm wanting to grow two avocado trees in my backyard and am looking to keep them under ~4 metres tall. There are so many varieties to choose from and conflicting facts all over the internet so I thought I'd ask someone who has grown some personally.

At the moment I'm thinking about growing a Gwen (heavy producing, dwarf, excellent quality fruit, type A) and a bacon (hardy, frost resistant, type B).

1. Is it necessary for them to cross pollinate?
2. Do the harvest seasons need to cross over?
3. Has anyone grown these trees in Melbourne?
4. What type of quality are the Bacon avocados?
5. Will I be able to contain the Bacon tree to a area of about 2.5 metres wide?

Thanks in advance,

Jon

Time: 21st December 2008 6:47pm

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Jon says...
"They grow easily in Melbourne. Just plant them straight away rather than growing in a pot for too long. Mine are in their third year and have one fruit each (Bacon and Gwen)"

Wow, that's exactly what I want to grow. I know that I can get Bacon avocados from Daley's or other nurseries you listed but where can I get gwen? Did you have to ship yours in?

How are they growing together?

Thanks

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Tiff says...
Great news for Melbourners, there is a nursery just opened in Mulgrave that sells lots of Tropical Fruit Trees. Can't remember the address but it's on Police Rd, Mulgrave. Looking at the tags they may have got their trees from Daley's (only assuming.)

Time: 22nd December 2008 2:05pm

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Damian says...
Went to have a look yesterday, it's corner dundoon court and police road.

They are fairly expenssive per plant, for example i think their lychees were $45, but worth your while if you only want 1 plant so as not to fork out $30 in delivery costs from daleys.

Tropicals caught my eye were lychees, 2 very small longan and lots of dragon fruits. They also have very large about 2mtr tall grafted bowen mangos, didn't check price. Large collection of persimmon (asians luv persimmons and the owners appear to be mainland chinese). Apart from these, nothing more tropical, lots of common citrus and lots of fancy pots for chinese gardens. Glad to see a nursery that don't stock apples and stone fruits.

Time: 24th December 2008 7:36am

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Jon says...
Do they sell Gwen avocado trees?

Time: 3rd January 2009 11:00am

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liem says...
Hi,
Just to add to the forum what I have tried for 2 years with tropical plants from Daleys. I live in Geelong, Geelong is a little colder than Melbourne. I have bought 7 guavas red and white variety ranging from 20cm to 2 m tall. They all survive Winter well and are thriving now. My 4 poincianas (1/2 m tall) are all dead except 1 is recovering with lots of young leaves. My 2 mangoes and longans all 1.5 m tall live through winter and are now taller with branches coming out. All Ambarellas are dead. My only one jackfruit orange crispy seems to be quite tough, it lost part of its leaves but starts growing again since September. My bananas and pineapple are OK, both get taller and have new leaves since November. I have no luck with malay apples. all dead.
I have them in small pots covered in plastic under the front veranda. No heating provided. Half of my tropical plants are now in Horsham Victoria. All do well in the green house. I am most surprised to see the jackfruit alive. Winter was nasty.

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Time: 3rd January 2009 9:45pm

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Jantina says...
Thanks liem, it is helpful to know who gets what to grow where. Spent most of my childhood summer holidays in Geelong at the Eastern Beach. Great memories.

Time: 3rd January 2009 10:42pm

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Maha says...
Ajay,

My curry leaf plant is on the ground for the last 7 years. No issues with melbourne winter. During winter time, the leaves may drop or turns into yellow.

Are you growing Drumstick in a pot? What do you do during winter time?

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Time: 13th January 2009 1:30pm

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juanita says...
Just wondering why my curry leaf in ground didn't lose its leaves during winter but shed its leaves during summer & now leaves are growing back again?...Will post the pix later.

I keep my potted drumstick tree in my small unheated gh during winter.
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Time: 14th January 2009 3:56pm

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My in ground young curry leaf tree is taking off nicely w/ new leaves coming out...

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Time: 15th January 2009 12:31am

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Hayden says...
Liem,
I am very pleased to hear you are growing such tropical plants. Where in Geelong are you? With the mangoes, are they in pots or in the ground? How do you protect them in winter? What are you feeding them?

Thanks,
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Time: 16th January 2009 9:51am

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Ajay says...
Hi Maha,

Unfortunately all my drumstick have died - my seed did not sprout as well. :(

I am now trying to get some drumstick seed but without much success

Nice one ! about the curry leaf being in the ground for 7 years !

-cheers
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Time: 17th January 2009 12:23pm

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bhagya says...
Hello Ajay, I would LOVE to try to grow a chikku on the NSW south coast. I have no idea where to obtain seeds in this country. What they call sapote here isn't chikku, although related. The brown Indian fruit that tastes like heaven is what I'm after.
Any ideas?
Thanks! bhagya

Time: 18th January 2009 11:20am

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Ajay says...
Hi Bhagya,

I got my seed from the Footscray market in melbourne. My seedlings are 18 months old but only 5 inches tall !. The chikku I got is the real thing. I'll see if I can get chikku seed for you. Do you have any interesting tropical seed ?
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Time: 19th January 2009 6:41pm

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Liem says...
Hi Hayden,
I was from Grovedale like you but shifted to Ballarat Road Bell Park now.
My mangoes are in medium size pots, I feed them with chicken manure and liquid fertiliser every week in Summer. I have 2 plants for most of my tropical plants. From May last year throughout Winter I kept them under the veranda, covered in green clear plastic from top to root and watered once every 3 weeks.
I hope they again survive this year's winter. This year I will try brown materials cotton like sold in Bunnings to cover my plants to see if its superior to plastic. This year I will move to Horsham and up there I have a green house and a glass house. Banana, jackfruit, longan, poinciana are thriving now.

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Time: 19th January 2009 7:44pm

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Hayden says...
Thanks for your helpful advice, i'm going to purchase a brewing heater and wrap my plants in plastic like you did, with the heater adding extra heat. Have you had flowers/fruit?

Thanks,
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Time: 21st January 2009 2:31pm

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liem says...
Hi Hayden,

No I have no flowers or fruit yet; if my tropical plants are alive, it would be a success already. My longan is 1.7 meters tall now and my guavas grow 10 cm per week. I reckon Guava and longan can defitely withstand Vic. Winter with some protection.
Is brewer heater costly to run? where do you buy it?

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Time: 27th January 2009 6:50pm

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Hayden says...
Brewing heaters are inexpensive to run and you can get them at brewing shops. Alternitively you could use an aquarium heater, but i dont know if it would HAVE to be immersed in water. They cost $20-30 and you can purchase one from

Geelong Home Brewing Supplies
164 Bellerine Street
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Telephone: 03 5221 3985
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Time: 29th January 2009 6:30pm

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Steven says...
Hi Everyone

I haven't written anything on this forum for a while but i have been following it.

I live in eastern melbourne on the falling hill of a small valley where the front of my block reaches the lowest peak of it. I have several of each; coffee, mango, banana, cinnamon, guava, cacao and pineapple. During winter most of my trees were unprotected and i didnt notice any real damage due to the cold. The largest mango, banana and coffee were in the courtyard for most of the winter however the rest were huddled close together next to the house, slightly protected from winds and under a shade cloth as to protect them from hail (especially the pineapples). To be honest (and it depends on where you live) i dont think it is really necessary to cover your trees and add heaters etc. By the end of winter my banana looked a bit sick and so did the pineapples but once the weather warmed up they picked up again and are fine now.

Next winter try leaving a few of your tropical trees (that you can afford to lose) outside in a similar place to where i put mine and monitor them carefully and see how they are. Most of mine lost a few leaves and looked a little sick but they picked up very quickly.

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Time: 30th January 2009 8:31am

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Damian says...
Hi,

This is a question for Tran or anyone in Melbourne.

Has anyone had success with carambola and Jackfruit in Melbourne?

Time: 3rd February 2009 1:46pm

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Tran says...
Hi Damian,

carambola (Kary variery): I have had the tree in a 50cm pot. I used to cover it in winter but not the last two years(under shade cloth)and it does have new shoots during winter too (?).
It flowers sometime but no fruit set for the last 8 years. May be I need two.

Jackfruit: I did try 8 years ago. It was getting smaller every year and could not cope after 3 years. I think our winter is too cold for it. I did cover up and took care during the time.
jujube, white sapote, acerola, pepino have given me plenty of fruits.


Time: 3rd February 2009 4:25pm

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Ellen says...
Tran,

how old was acerola before it giving you edible fruits ?

I've got mine last year, and so far it giving me 2x flowers sets, but it kept falling off, couldn't set fruit after the bloom . And I am down here in Sydney, so it's a bit warmer than in Vic.

Time: 4th February 2009 4:00am

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Tran says...
Hi Ellen,

It was about 2 years old when it started to set fruit. At first, it had just one or two only, when the tree getting older it gives more and more fruits. Mine flowers a couple of times a year from Oct to April. They love water so much that the more you give them, the more flowers you will have but 95% of the flowers don't set fruit.
BTW, mine is in a 50cm pot and I feed it with slow release fertiliser twice a year.
I love it b/c it takes less than a month from flower to ripen fruit.
You could give it some potasium or slow release pearl right now and see what happen(a bit at the time)

Time: 4th February 2009 7:07am

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Ellen says...
Thanks for the prompt answer Tran,

yes I'll try your recommendation. And Yes, mine is in a 50cm pot as well, and so far it has grown 3x bigger than when I got it from Daleys back last Sept 08.
Do you prune it back Tran ?

Time: 4th February 2009 7:50am

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Tran says...
Hi Ellen,

I have done only for dead branches or tips just to tidy up that is all. every year I top up the pot with more potting mix and give it some fertiliser around October where flower buds coming out( even before leaf buds).
I have to use net sometime when fruits are in season because birds love the fruits so much that you may have none left.

BTW mine is under shade cloth permanently ever since.

All the best.

Time: 4th February 2009 9:21am

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wanderer says...
Hi ...

I am very very interested in growing Lychee and Longan Trees in Clayton Melbourne.

But this is something I only want to start if they actually do 'fruit', 'ripens' and can be consumed . . .

Being that the high price to pay and that the time to wait is so long . . .
has anyone really has these 2 fruits trees that do exactly that . . .

Please understand that I luv these 2 fruits and if I cannot eat its fruits,
I will have to choose to grow a different fruit trees.

I have been to the new nursery on Police Road, does anyone know when they will have 20% off again ? . . . I missed the openning special . .



Time: 4th February 2009 10:43am

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Tran says...
Hi Wanderer,
I started with those 2 trees 8 years ago in 50 cm pot and I now have lychee only. It is still the same height after 8 years and flowers once the year after arrival and no fruits so far.

The longan survived for 6 years and fruited twice (2 fruits each time, dropped after 2 months due to winter).
I think it flowered too late and the fruit could not ripe.
My friend have had a longan in Sydney very big, lots of flowers but no fruit so far.


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wanderer says...
Tran,

Thanks for the info.
I will probably give it (lychee & longan) a miss now.

But I got thinking right now . .what if I were (desparate) to build a greenhouse for the lychee & longan.

Would they have a better chance of fruiting and ripening for consumption ?

Another question: Over the weekend, I saw at Bunnings Nunawading a couple of mango trees . . would they fruit(and ripen) in Melbourne ?







Time: 9th February 2009 4:12pm

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Tran says...
Wanderer,

I think you could build a greenhouse for the lychee & longan but in that environement they grow quick and become huge trees and I think they will fruit but by that time your greenhouse may not be tall enough.
I have seen mango fruiting in Melbourne but I don't know if the fruit ripen or not. There was an article in the Herald Sun few years ago that some body has had the mango tree fruiting in Victoria.

Time: 10th February 2009 11:15am

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Jantina says...
Wanderer I'm going to have a go with longan,mango etc in a glasshouse here at Mt. Gambier but I am going to grow them in those dwarfing growbags (Daleys sell them ) and keep them pruned. So far they are doing very well in a three quarters north facing enclosed verandah.The longans ,wampees, green sapote etc have all grown about 6-8 inches in 6 weeks.

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Damian says...
Jantina, have you tasted green sapote before? what's it like? is it just like a sweet mush like sweet potato?

Time: 10th February 2009 1:56pm

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Jantina says...
No I haven't tasted it Damian.Daleys list it as hardier than the Mamey sapote and a superior flavour. If anyone out there has green sapote growing experience and or tasted one please enlighten us.

Time: 10th February 2009 2:04pm

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frank says...
Hi Dave
i live in sydney and i wonder if you can tell me tell me were i can buy a jujube tree and a caper bush since you can grow them easyly.

thank you
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Time: 11th February 2009 9:41am

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wanderer says...
Ok,
I think I better verify this information(assumption) then.

I was informed by a certain nursery that sells them (wink wink) that once the lychee or longan trees reached 5 feet tall, they will be strong enough to handle the frost.

Naturally, I assume that they will fruit and ripen from then on, being accustomed with Melbourne weather.
(and that means the greenhouse can be dismantled after that because it would be of no need at all after that)

Is my assumption wrong ?

Also, I heard from someone many years ago, that there are certain tricks to make Longan trees flowers (therefore fruits). . .and it is by 'stressing' it.

Unfortunatley, I was at an age where growing things was never in my mind (I was renting too) and had never asked how it was done !!

Anybody know how to 'stress' a fruit tree ?

Thanks







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Tran says...
it means you stop watering for some time so the tree get stress and bust into flowers.

Time: 11th February 2009 6:33pm

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wanderer says...
Thanks Tran . . again.

Didn't know it was that simple.

Anyhow, was my assumption correct ?
I mean that once they are 5 feet+ tall,
they won't require a greenhouse and they would grow as they should in a tropical climate . . . meaning they will fruit and bear edible fruits.
Also, they won't need 'stressing' to bust into flowers (then fruits) and then they will ripen properly ?

Sorry, many questions. I really like
to make this a success if i do start it.

Thanks in advance . .!!





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Tran says...
Hi Wanderer,

The chance of not having greenhouse would delay the flowering process so fruits could be developed around Feb and they would not be enough time to ripe before winter comes. in southern area, tropical fruits trees may produce fruit around 3 months behind the true tropical climate

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bhagya says...
Hi Ajay, Thanks for your reply. I don't have any other tropical trees. I am simply in love with the Indian chikku. I've since purchased two seedlings from Daleys Fruit, SAPODILLA, Manilkara zapota. I have my fingers crossed that they will grow in Tilba, where there is no frost. I'm also hoping that what I've purchased is the very same chikku I'm after.
So good to read what you all are growing!
Good luck with it!

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Tran says...
Hi all,

It would be nice to know if any one In Melbourne has grown dragon fruit successfully. I mean producing fruit.

Thanks

Tran

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Asha says...
Hi Bhagya,

I too love the Indian chikku. Do keep us posted on whether this is the Indian chikku - it seems to be from the description online.

I have recently acquired a drumstick plant as well as a dwarf mulberry from Daley's. I love the eggplant and drumstick sambhar, and there is nothing as good as fresh drumstick! The plant is flowering, so will have to wait and see if it bears any fruit.

Also has anyone grown Amla (gooseberry) in Melbourne?

Time: 18th February 2009 12:43pm

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Steven says...
Hi everyone,I just wanted to know if anyone has had any luck growing pineapples in Melbourne. I have 6 which went a little bad from hail damage in winter but are growing nicely now and when my greenhouse is eventually finished im planning to plant then in there.

But i wanted to ask if anyone has had any luck growing them outside and if so what size pineapples did you get??

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Tran says...
Hi Steven,

Yes I have been growing them sucessfully in pot in Melbourne and the fruit size is about a very small honey dew. I had to force them to flower.

I lost a big tree in pot once because of the cold and it got rotten.

Since then I hide them under cover when winter comes and only bring them out around November.

Good luck.

Tran

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Mei says...
Hi Dave,

I'm really impressed with your collection of fruit trees. I'm no green thumb at all but I just came back from Queensland and I visited Fruit World and really liked Mamey Sapote. I noticed you have white sapote, what's the difference to mamey sapote?
Would you know where I might buy some?

Thanks

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David Johnson says...
Hi Mei,

The White Sapote is not related to the Mamey sapote.It's fruit is roughly round, the size of an orange but with a paper thin light green skin. The consistancy of the fruit is like ripe avocado and it tastes like a sweet watery custard.
The fruit contains several large seeds which germinate very easily. There are many know varieties which produce different tasting fruit.

I bought my grafted trees from Daleys.
I now have several varieties and plan on grafting multiple varieties to my seedlings. It is important to have at least one variety which has flowers that produce pollen. Not all varieties do. Ortego and Vernon varieties produce plenty of pollen. But do not have the best flavour.



Time: 27th February 2009 12:46pm

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David Johnson says...
Frank

I bought the jujube from Perry's in SA and the caper bushes came form Diggers in Meblourne.
The Jujubes are not cheap but would be one of my favourite fruit.

Unfortunately the ferocious heat we had a couple of weeks ago caused all the jujube fruit to drop off this year. At least the plants survived intact.

If you want to expand the numbers of jujube plants you have, they send up small plantlets which can be detached and grown on. These will need to be grafed with upright growth removed from the original plant during the winter dormancy period.

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Tran says...
Hi David,

It would be nice if you could give me some hints on how to detach small plantlets out of my jujube please. my little ones are only about 6 cm(2 inches) from the main trunk.

Is it a difficult job to remove the lettle ones?

Many thanks in advance.

Tran

Time: 27th February 2009 1:39pm

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David Johnson says...
Hi Tran,

I find the best time to remove the plantlets is just after they have gone dormant. The ones close to the trunk are difficult to remove. I scraped away the soil then used a hose to wash away the soil until l found the runner the plantlets sprung from. I then cut this with a sharp knife.
Mine have been in the ground a few years now and so the plantlets are popping up 5-6 feet away, which makes removal a lot easier. l do not bother with the ones close to the mother plant.

Remember to graft these you need to remove "Upright" growth from the mother plant. If you use a side branch the resulting plant will remain stunted.

Time: 28th February 2009 9:00am

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Tran says...
Hi David,

Many thanks for your useful advice. I am very much appreciated.

Mine is in the pot and the little one is quite close to the mother plant so for now I will probably wait for another planlet to come up hopefully it will be far away from its mother and try to remove and graft according to your instructions.

Tran

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Honlou says...
What mangos could you grow in Vic ? are any more frost tollerent then others?
what about growing in a pot?any ideas guys

Time: 5th March 2009 10:53am

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Steven says...
Hi Honlou

R2E2 Mangos would probably be the most cold tolerant variety that you could get. Even still however you should protect them from frost when they are young. They are quite nice, however Kensington Pride (Bowen) Mangoes are still much nicer and you can still have success growing them, especially under cover, even under a pergola with a clear plastic roof to let the light through. I know a guy who is growing one in half a wine barrel and it has fruited. so i would suggest getting both varieties.

As for growing in pots, i think it would be best to grow them in a large pot when they are young, then transplant them in a warm spot in the ground. That way you can move them to warmer places when they are young depending on the weather. Keep in mind though that they grow to a large tree (30m in their natural climate). so growing in a pot permanently i dont think would work the best.

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Ajay says...
Hi David Johnson,

I have been trying ( for a very long time) to get my hands on some Indian Jujube seed/plants . Would you be able to spare me some seed or a rooted offshoot ?

Thanks in anticipation.
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Les says...
Hi Tran, or any other knowledgeable Yoda, I wrote a while back and asked about curry leaf tree seeds. I eventually found a tree and it is producing seeds. Could you help me in regard to when to harvest the seeds, if they need drying etc and the best time and method for propagating. Or is it better to take cuttings?
Thanks so much for your help

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Tran says...

Hi Les,

You only havest when those berries are fully ripen (very dark puple colour). They are very juicy when you pick them. Remove the green seeds and plant immediately. Some come up in a month but some take about few months to appear. I have discovered some plants appear from seeds I planted last June some where in my garden. Perhaps they are just slow to germinate.

Good luck. Tran

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suzanne says...
Does anybody know if Louis Glowinski is having a open day at his garden this year and where he actually lives.

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Asha says...
Hi Tran, Les,

I have been growing the curry leaf plant for about 13 years now, and find that around the time the tree fruits, it also gives a little off-shoot. If you prune the berries from the tree (I prune the flowers as soon as they appear) it hastens the growth of the off-shoot, which you can then carefully remove and transplant.

My current tree is an off shoot and I have another in a pot, which I thought would die over the extreme heat of last Feb, but luckily has gotten new shoots and looks just beautiful. And a third one has now shooted from the main plant as well.

Hope thsi helps
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Honlou says...
thanks for the info Steven, think i saw a bowen at our local bunnings last week.
No one had mentioned before how big they can get ,thats certainly food for thought!!
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Maha says...
Hi Asha,

How do you remove the curry leaf offshoots? I have tried couple of them in the past and both died. Thereafter I have stopped transplanting them. I simply leave them where they are and all of them are growing well. In fact, I have 4 offshoots now and yesterday I have noticed of a new offshoot.

The extreme weather has caused the tree to flower again and as usual I have pruned the flowers.

I got flowers in my drumstick tree which I got from Daleys. I am not sure whether it would fruit. Has any one got fruit from their drumstick tree in Melbourne?

Maha

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Steven says...
Hi Honlou

Thats fine, i hope you found my information helpful. to be honest i dont think they would get that big in our climate though and if they did it would take a long time. But even growing it in a large pot or pruning it when it starts to get big would be fine i think. I guess it just depends on your situation and how badly you want to grow them. if you do plant one in your backyard though make sure you put it in a warm sheltered spot because i think you would get colder winters in Bendigo that where i live.

But once they get a bit bigger to be higher than the frost i think it will do fine.

Steven

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Asha says...
Hi Maha,
I usually carefully identify the roots of the offshoot - using gloved fingers. The aim is to get some roots and the soil around them. Then plant the offshoot in another pot making sure that the soil level is not higher than when the little plant was in the main pot.

Keep the pot moist - I keep the pot under shade so that it gets some early morning sun, but not the hot afternoon sun.

This time the plant took about 4/5 months to establish - that may be because it had been in the main pot for over a couple of years. I transplanted at the end of winter, and it was Jan before the new leaves came. Next time, I am going to water in some seasol which will probably help to establish the plant.

My drumstick plant has also flowered but not sure if any fruit will develop yet.

All the best
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Jess says...
Hi everyone,

New to this forum, I am very keen on growing tropical fruits in Melbourne and have been following up on this thread. So keen that I just placed an order for 9 plants. Is it possible to get an update on how your plants are doing & also if you can upload some current photos.

Thanks,
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John I. says...
Hi Jess,
What 9 tropicals are you planting?

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Rob says...
Hi Jess,
Have had some luck keeping the following alive in Ballarat area with some cover during the heavy frost periods - no fruit yet, but plants are still young, and growing ok.

Red Dacca banana, dwarf Cavendish banana
Jaboticaba
Avocado Wertz and Bacon
Mango R2E2
Macadamia
japanese Raisin tree was thriving until kangaroos ate it :-(
Indian Curry leaf
Hawaiian Guava, Indian Guava
Finger Lime
White sapote
Grumichama
Galangal ginger
Wampi
Dragon fruit
Cheers
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Steven says...
Hi Jess

Ive had luck growing the following plants, they are still young too so there is no fruit but they all look healthy.in winter i put a few in the courtyard but most were outside against a west facing wall with a bit of shelter from the wind.

Kensington Pride mango
Pineapple (be careful of hail)
Guava (is in full bloom at the moment)
Dwarf Canandish Banana (had one plant last year not have 5 due to suckers)
Arabica Coffee
Hass Avocado (had pretty bad wind damage though)
Blood orange (maybe doesnt really count but still its classified as a subtropical tree)

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Jess says...
My plants have arrived!
You can imagine my excitement as I came home & saw the boxes.
I must say that I

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Steven says...
Hey

I just wanted to point out to everyone to be careful wrapping all your trees in plastic over winter because it will encourage fungal growth which is probably a big reason why so many plants die over winter. It could actually be the fungus and not the cold killing many tropical plants from over love!!. I had great success just putting them against a west facing brick wall sheltered from hail and wind. I lost a couple mango's last winter that i left out in the open in the backyard which i grew from seed that summer but they werent looking the best and werent very looked after anyway. I just left them there as a test. other than that everything look healthy over winter.

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Carol says...
Hi Tran, I am interested in getting a jujube plant--I understand they can be propagated from suckers....do you have any you can spare? We can do a plant swap..as I have other fruiting plants,

Time: 12th April 2009 3:52pm

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Tran says...
Hi Carol,

I have one sucker coming up but it is next to the trunk and according to the advice from David Johnson I don't think that I should disturb it because I cannot buy another jujube. BTW, another website saying that suckers must be 2 years old for a successful removal.

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Martin says...
can i plant custard apple seeds now and in waht location ?

Time: 14th April 2009 6:53pm

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Walter Melon says...
To AJAY:
To BHAGYA:
Why do you call it the "Indian Chikku",and the "Indian Jujube"?
Just CHIKKU and JUJUBE is correct.

Time: 16th April 2009 1:59pm

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Jantina says...
Indian jujube and Cninese jujube are quite distinctly different. Zizyphus jujuba is the Chinese and Zizyphus mauritiana is the Indian so Ajay is quite correct. I'm not familiar with chiku.

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Steven says...
Hey Everyone.

Have a look at this link, you might find it useful as a quick cheap and effective oil lamp which you can use to heat your small greenhouses over winter. just make sure the flame is completely enclosed in the glass jar, that way it will greatly reduce the risk of it catching something on fire.

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Steven says...
Haha here is the link

http://www.judyofthewoods.net/lamp.html

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wanderer says...
Hi everyone,

I just saw Kohala (Longan) Seedlings in GardenWorld.

From a bit of 'googling', i think seedlings does not necessarily grow true-to-type . . meaning that it may (at worst) not produce edible fruits at all !! . . . not only that, it takes 8- 10 years to even fruit at all !! (what a long time to discover something, eh?!)

Is this true ?
Even if so, can the seedlings be induced to flower in say . . 2- 3 years ? (uknow, with Potassium Chlorate)

Thanks

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Steven says...
Hi

I just wanted to know if anyone knows of a simple way to raise the humidity of a small greenhouse (650 x 450 x 1600). at 25C humidity reads at about 60% which is ok (not good) but during the day the temperature raises to about 35C and the humidity drops to about 20-30% which is way to low. I am trying to grow cacao seedlings in there and they need high humidity and are very fussy, however i cant sit there all day monitoring it so if anyone knows of a way I can keep the humidity at about 80% that would be a great help.

Thanks

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peter says...
try putting some low trays of water with
a large surface area in there and see
if that helps.

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Steven says...
Hi Peter how are you?

Yes I've placed a polystyrene box full of water on one of the lower trays and put maybe 10 rags half in the water and half out to increase surface area. It does seem to help but it still doesn't keep the humidity even above 50% once it warms up.

Thanks

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Jantina says...
Steven, assuming that your plants are in pots,your could try sitting your pots in the actual trays on stones to keep the pots up out of the water. That might keep the humidity high in the immediate area of the plants.

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Carol says...
Tks Tran,good luck with your furit growing and do let me know if you find a reasonable priced source of chinese jujube plant...have you tried germinating the seeds from the dried jujubes from the chinese grocery stores?

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Steven says...
Hi Sheryl

As for your lemon tree, im not sure whats wrong with it. It could just be that it needs more water. are the leaves big and lush green or are the yellowish? If you get fertilizer get organic fetilizer (i.e. chicken, cow, horse manure etc) you can get it in pellet form or if you drive around farm areas or horse stables you can usually pick it up very cheap (just make sure you age it for a few months before you use it). Or you could simply just have more of a wild variety of lemon which arent that nice.

As for your seeds, it is usually best to buy the tree as most have been grafted onto a stronger root stock and are true to a specific variety. If you grow it by seed you probably wont get the same variety as the tree it came from. From your list however I know that Avocado and mango are the exception to that, if you plant them they will grow many shoots and you leave the stongest one and cut the rest off. however they are more tropical trees and hence require more attention. I would also recommend buying a mango tree for that reason, the one I bought is doing much better than the ones i grew from seed. Chillies and strawberries you can get from most nurseries either as seed or plant. Just remember when is the right time of year to grow certain things.

There is a large nursery in south east melbourne called Din Sans Nursery maybe you can check them out. you can also check out a book I have: The complete book of vegetables, herbs and fruit by Matthew Biggs et al.

Also search on the internet there is always plenty of sites that will give you useful information.

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Steven says...
Hi Jantina.

Thanks i may try that. At the moment I dug up the strawberry plants i had in the garden and planted all the runners in pots. I had about half a dozen so ive filled it up alot more which has seemed to help but not a substantial amount. I was thinking of trying to place a bowl of water above an oil burner which will evaporate the water. or ill try to make or buy some sort of humidity regulator....does anyone know of any places that sell things like that??

Thanks for your help.

Steven

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peter says...
steven,
some garden centres sell these little gismos that you plug in and place in a bowl of water, it then produces a fog
from the water which should fill your greenhouse if it is sealed up.
dont know if it would but may be worth exploring.

another option may be to have the entire floor of the greenhouse acting
as a tray whith the greenhouse sitting inside it and using a small aquarium
pump to pump water from the tray to the roof of the greenhouse which has fine
sprayers along the top.

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Firefly says...
Steven, my first instinct about how to raise the humidity in your greenhouse is simply to use a humidifier bought from the chemists. I know I can feel the difference when I use mine in an enclosed room.

I'm kind of surprised no one's suggested it. Has anyone tried it? Would it not bring the humidity up enough? Would the water reservoir be too small?

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Steven says...
Hi everyone

Thanks a lot for your advice about raising the humidity in my greenhouse i appreciate it. the fog thing might be a good idea however im not sure about sitting the greenhouse in a tray of water as it will rust out its legs. Ill also look into the humidifiers they have at the chemist. Are they expensive. Preferably i would like some sort of regulator so i can set the humidity at a certain level and dont have to worry about it. im hoping i can make or find something that doesnt require electricity to run or very little as having something running all day may chew up the energy bill. but i will definitely look into those. one idea i had was to put a bowl on top of the oil burner i posted earlier which would evaporate the water into the air, and as it only runs off old oil it wont cost me much at all to run.

And Sherly to be honest i think simple manure or chicken pellets etc would be best. I find plants respond MUCH better to organic fertilizers than synthetic ones, just sprinkle it underneath the tree line and if you want work it slightly into the soil. Also epson salts are good for citrus trees (if you find the veins of the leaves are yellow) it has magnesium in it which the plant needs to produce chlorophyll.

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Gardener says...
Hi Tran

We are wanting to purchase a Jujube tree. We cannot locate where we can purchase one here in Melbourne. Could you please advise.

Thanks
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Tran says...
Hi Don,

I bought mine few years ago from Perry in Adelaide at the time only $30 each. I don't think you could get it in Melbourne.

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Hi Tran

Thanks for the info. I shall contact Perry's.

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Jess says...
Hi there all,

My soursoup leaves seems to have some damages. Does anyone knows what it is?
Potted a month ago, did give it seasol. It's in a sheltered area from frost & wind.
All the other plants are doing well so far.

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amanda says...
Hi Jess - It's a bit hard to tell without seeing the whole plant - but my best guess would be fertiliser burn to the leaves. If the new growth ok then all should be well.

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Jess says...
Amanda, you are probably right! I have noticed that after giving some fertiser to my other flowering plants, its showing some burns to the leaves. Hopefully, it will recover.
Thanks Jess

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amanda says...
Hey Jess - I am always "learning" after a lifetime of exposure to growing (and I am only 42yrs!)- but observation is your ultimate tool...the only reason i thought of this was because the other leaves look fine - which suggest a random problem - the other leaves look healthy otherwise.
Your photo is actually an excellent eg of fert' burn..
Problem solving is quite systematic: if the plant generally looks healthy - then it probably is...!?

The plant will be fine if all else ok (haven't grown these yet myself!)

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marg says...
Hi Gang today was greenhouse installing day (adloheat midi house) and using the steam exhaust from our brivis gas heater..gosh I hope it works and does not cook everything..does anyone have experience in such things..belts out a lot of warm steam and we are thinking of leaving it open most of the time. Looking forward to ANY comments or hints on management
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Wayne says...
Looks pretty impressive Marg, perhaps your own little rain forest there, orchids etc.

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marg says...
thanks wayne, well it is a rainforest inside..even with the cover open the steam creates a very very wet atmosphere..Its a really neat greenhouse and I at least did what Uncle Kevin wanted us to do and spend my 900 bucks on something made in australia bought locally and does something to promote sustainable living. Don't I feel just too too goody two shoes...:-)

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Steven says...
Hi Marg how are you.

your greenhouse looks good. It reminds me of my idea of using the hot water unit as a heat source for a greenhouse during winter. Be careful though as the constant very high humidity might provide the perfect climate for fungus and devastate your plants. However the circulation of air might be enough to stop that.

If it does cause a problem though an easy/mild fungicide you can make up is: 1Lt water, 1 drop of cooking oil, 1 drop dishwashing liquid and a teaspoon of bicarb of soda. Mix them all together until the bicarb dissolves completely and put in a spray bottle. i find it works quite well.

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marg says...
Hi Steven, Yes I had a little as in really little plastic house next to the heater last year and was very successful so I went the whole hog this time, and connected it up. Wish I had more space to put a gigantic hot house in but this will do us.

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au0rey says...
Hi Marg, I have a mini greenhouse similar to yours...Only thing which I have trouble with is a lot of condensation on the inside of it that can cause over humidity...My mint developed mildew after just two days...

I cut holes around the cover to help ventilation...and have to open the cover every morning and zip it up every evening.

Would love to hear from people on how to use the greenhouse more effectively...
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Julie says...
Ajay,

Are you still interested in fresh Indian jujube seeds please email me:
Julie.smith31 at yahoo dot com dot au.

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juanita says...
Hi auOrey,

Do you have any idea where to get a new (same one) gh plastic cover to replace the old broken one?...This type of plastic cover doesn't last very long.

Time: 9th June 2009 2:03am

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Steven says...
Hi Auorey

I had a similar problem with a small greenhouse like the one your bought. A couple of weeks ago i wrote in this forum how you can make a mild fungicide to stop things like that. it works well for me and because its only mild doesnt damage the foliage of your seedlings.

Hi Sheryl too bad about your lemon tree and corriander. Also have a look at the soil your tree is in it may be in shit soil that could be causing the problem. If you can post a few photos of the tree showing where the problems are also of the surrounding area as well as the soil.

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Sharma says...
Hi,
I have a tahitian lime in my house, since last two season i have noticed that the flower and the buds just fall off after some time and never got a chance to see and tahitian lime growing on the tree which is 3 feet tall .
Any reason why it is happening??
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Hi Sharma

How old is your tree. most trees once they reach maturity will not fruit properly in the first few seasons, they may flower and drop their flowers, or make small fruit and then drop all or most of them. however once they reach full maturity they will fruit properly. If its a young tree most likely thats the problem. However if not it could be that your plant is under stress, it may be not enough light as your tree is indoors, lack of water or lack on nutrients. Most likely its one of the last two, make sure the soil is always moist but not wet. And fertilize with an organic fertilizer such a aged manure, chicken pellets etc.

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SHARMA says...
Hi Steven,
My tree is 3 years old and 3 feet tall.The tree is planted next to my fence and gets full sun and grey water all the time. Even at the end of autumn i had given seaweed sol and cow manure the leaves look very healthy and i was happy with the look of the tree but didnt see any fruit so was sad. is there any thing else that one should do like adding lime to the soil ???
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Steven says...
Yeah i think its just that the tree isnt mature enough to make fruit. Have a look on the internet and find out how long it will take for the tree to start bearing fruit. my guess would be about 5 years from a seedling to maturity.

Another thing just make sure your grey water doesnt contain harmful chemicals and use soaps that are biodegradable. And make sure you dont over water it. the soil should me moist but not wet for too long

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Time: 15th June 2009 11:03am

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SHARMA says...
Thanks Steven,
I think the soil is wet because of winter and grey water .....would divert the grey water to opposite direction.
I was just wondering if i can do grafting of fruit trees myself????? just cut and join it to any tree ??? Any idea???
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Steven says...
Hi Sharma, yeah dont water the tree if the soil is wet. you will encourage fungi and bacterial infections that will rot the roots and trunk.

You can graft any tree as long as your grafting to the same species, i.e. citrus fruits to citrus fruits, stone fruits to stone fruits etc. Have a look at how to do it on youtube.com youll find good vidoes where people show you the best and easiest way.

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SHARMA says...
Steven, Thanks for this piece of information i.e. citrus fruits to citrus fruits, stone fruits to stone fruits etc this has solved my problem.....what all fruit trees do you have in your garden???
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Hi Juanita,

I reckon the plastic covering wears out fast since it is under rain and sun all the time..Not sure where to get replacement though..have you tried looking at the packaging to check up the company which distributes this GH? I think I will have this problem in due time but I have thrown out any packaging that came with the GH.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
I have some GRAFTED jujube bare rooted trees FOR SALE please contact me jujubeforsale@yahoo.com.au

Time: 27th June 2009 10:11pm

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juanita says...
Hi Auorey,

We bought it from BigW yrs ago but I don't have the packaging that came w/the mini GH anymore..We're now using it for growing wheatgrass.

i wonder how much is the jujube for sale?...will it thrive & bear fruits in melb?

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Julie says...
My friend has grown jujube for the last 5 years and the trees fruits really well in Melbourne. It could cope with minus 2 degree freezing temparature in winter because it is domant in Winter. Here is a link:
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/jujube.html

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
An update on JUJUBE (CHINESE DATE) GRAFTED AND BARE ROOTED TREES FOR SALE in Melbourne.
There are 3 varieties to choose from
Li: Large, round fruit
GA-866: An outstandingly sweet selection out of the Chico Research program. Large, elongated fruit.
Chico: Fruit is round but flattened on the bottom. Looks like small apples.
Excellent either fresh or dried.

They are rare but not tropical fruit trees so very suitable for Melbourne climate and fruit well in Victoria.

Available on order until August only.
For more information please contact jujubeforsale@yahoo.com.au

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amanda says...
Have u got photos JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELB?
Can u send all over Aust?

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Amanda,

The JUJUBE (RED CHINESE DATE) GRAFTED AND BARE ROOTED TREES FOR SALE in Melbourne is Ziziphus jujuba of Chinese variety. They are very sweet and rare species. their fruits are prized.

The one that is a weed that invades QLD, WA is the Indian Jujube or Chinee apple (Ziziphus mauritiana).
They look very similar but the taste is different.The weed one is not nice at all (small,very tangy, acidic, big seed too). no one is allowed to even remove the fruit or trees out of it location let alone selling it. Heavy penalty applies. Anyway, those weeds are too tropical to survive in Melbourne

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Jantina says...
Hi Amanda, being able to get a jujube in Melb. is great for all us over here but you can get them over there and save all the postage and quarantine hassles. Ring Jim Dawson on nine, five, seven, four, six, three, seven, one. He is very helpful, I have spoken to him and he is happy for you to ring him and has jujubes at the ready.

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amanda says...
Thanks Jantina..! I am keen to try one as I think they will do well in my climate.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Re:The JUJUBE (RED CHINESE DATE) GRAFTED AND BARE ROOTED TREES FOR SALE in Melbourne. I found an old picture of my 2 years old tree of LI variety that have abundant of delicious fruits as attached. The tree is 8 years old now and in Winter domant

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Angela says...
Great photo, looks like a very productive tree.

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Chin says...
My jujube/Chinese date tree has abundant of fruit like that too in summer. Those fruits are very good for women according to my Chinese Herbal Practitioner. I used to buy dried fruits to make tea or use in cooking the same way as sultana in savoury dishes but not anymore because I have a tree and I can eat the fruits out of hand when they are in season.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
To everyone and the friends who have ordered and waited to pick up the GRAFTED, BARE ROOTED JUJUBE/CHINESE DATE trees or already picked up the jujube CHICO variety. There is a very good segment (last night) on how to care and plant bare rooted trees on the ABC gardening you may be interested:

http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s2613562.htm

BTW, I was told by a nursery gentleman that CHICO variety has a very high yield but my LI have abundant of fruits too.

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Speedy says...
Got mine in the ground on Sunday.
compost, agrichar, mulch, watered in with dilute seaweed soln., tree guard, and waiting.
Thanks.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
If you are owning or waiting to collect your JUJUBE tree there is a very good chapter in the book UNCOMMON FRUITS FOR EVERY GARDEN that you may be interest:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ghCfbi6jGG8C&pg=PA216&lpg=PA216&dq=jujube+%2B+sucker&source=bl&ots=Vf_o4AgeVc&sig=zc2yUWeoL57gzHVnZF6g3oxQNO4&hl=en&ei=iRDMSYiJFIqZkQWUjfzvCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPA216,M1

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Robbie says...
Hi Marg, I was looking at your greenhouse. My poor (non gardening) husband has been erecting a large green/hot house that I bought of ebay. (Thanks Kevin for the $900 bucks)! Anyway it's taken my husband (who is a builder) 3 weekends to put the thing up!! He says you need a degree to follow the instructions hee hee! And then in the big winds we had last week or so ago half the panels blew out and away over the fence! Once this thing is up and running I plan to establish some tropical plants including fruit. We are revamping a big back yard, I want heaps of it yummy - wish me luck! Does anyone know any good (cheap) landscapers/designers?

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amanda says...
I had an idea to build to a movable shade house. It's too hot to grow veg here in summer so I am going to build a frame out of poly pipe (white one) and fill with cement/sand for weight and put jockey wheels on the bottom and cover with shade cloth. This way I can wheel it to the bed I am growing in and it's heaps cheaper than steel..plus u can get all the corner fittings etc..

I will post a photo when I get around to building it!

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Julie says...
I came accross this jujube variety while investigating what variety to buy. I wonder if anyone in Australia is growing this one in their garden
http://www.papayatreenursery.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=164

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Ellen says...
wow,, so far I've only know of the 2 varieties and that is the Li and the Chico .

This Chang variety, I've only tasted the dried version in Asian cookings often but never seen or use the fresh version of it.

I believe there are roughly 80 varieties, too much and too many to remembered them all

I hopes the Chico & Li varieties are as space convenience as the Chang, for those of us who have a small back yard in Down Under .

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Karen says...
I had some fresh jujube fruits when I was in Hongkong. I have no idea which variety it was, but realy sweet and tasty not like the dried one which is very bland.

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juanita says...
Got my LI jujube today & will keep it in a pot until next yr before transferring to the ground...I hope Li & Chico are as good as chang.

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Vin says...
Hi,all I hope some one can help me I'm looking for a nursery that sells Chilian Guava,and Strawberry Guava,in Melbourne. I do have a small Strawberry Guava, but it is not putting on and size as yet, I did send a picture to Daley's to have it Looked at maybe they can tell me why it is not growing.Hope anyone can help.

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sharma says...
Hi Vin,
You can find strawberry guava in Bunnings Dandenong even they have one more variety called Indian guava.
Hope this would help.
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sharma says...
Hi All,
My nectarine tree leaves are turning rusty in colour and some leaves are getting burntout it seems.Anybody has any idea what should i do?
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amanda says...
Hi Sharma - can u post a photo at all?

Are the leaves dropping off? Have u fertilised recently? Has it been a bit cold recently in Melb?

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Roger says...
Love the forum. I am interested in growing a pepper vine(Piper Nigrum). Do you know where I can source one?

Am currenty growing a mango (pot) looks like first flowers this year. The coffee tree has survived the first winter. Guava tree healthy (5 years old) no fruit.

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Ellen says...
Roger

you can get it at allrareherbs.com.au

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evo says...
interesting Roger. Didn't realise Piper Nigrum would grow in melbourne

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
I did try the piper nigrum twice and it didnot work for me. I brought the vine inside in winter and still did not make it.

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Michael says...
Hi Jujube,
The Li jujube you sold to me is now putting out leaves just as you said it would.
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Evo says...
Oh wow! Looks great Michael.

Mine hasn't put on leaves yet.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Michael,

It looks great! Sydney is much warmer. Melbourne is still too cold for the buds to break.

The good thing is leaves and flowers don't get damage by frost. Most of mine including the mature trees are still in dormant or just very litle light green buds that hardly visible without magnifying glass. To have leaves like yours I have to wait until mid October.

Can you please check and make sure that all the young branches are above the grafting point.

For the ones below the grafting point please remove them because those belong to the root stock so no good to leave it grow. I can't tell from looking at your picture.

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Ellen says...
Nguyet

Mine is fruiting as well, should I leave the fruits on there as is ? or should i pinched it all off, so it will put all that energy into growing a good frame work first ?

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,

Do you mean your newly planted jujube tree is having flowers? or just young shoots coming out like Michael 's tree.

Anyway, These jujube trees are mature trees and due to transportation some branches were removed. Most likely you will have some flowers in summer it could be at late as March because mine continue to flower up to mid April. For fruiting the first time you could leave just half of the dozen fruits and remove the rest or don't remove any. I did not remove any when I first got my trees.

I am talking to Michael regarding to the shoots (not flowers) that appear on his jujube trees where I mentioned that any shoot below the grafting point should be removed because they belong to the root stock.

Can you post the picture of your jujube tree for us to have a look, When you have time please?.

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Ellen says...
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I'll post it up this afternoon, the pic is on my l.t .

now that you mentioned it, then those budding thingy in between the leaves must be flower buds . I was a bit bewildered there. I was thinking, wow I have not seen it flowering yet and already it is setting fruit -far out . kakkakkakakak Am I backward or what. hihihi :-)

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Ellen,

Just looking at your jujube tree in your edible page.

Wow,I am very very impressed with your jujube tree, it is stunning to me. I am so glad to see yours are having flower buds in just about 10 weeks after planting where it was just a twig when I sent you.

Those will set fruits very soon around November or December. Congratulation! you have done well.
Michael's tree will have some flowers when the young branches getting more mature like yours.

very Successful indeed.

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lynne says...
Hi Jujube
Just to report that both my bare rooted trees now have green shoots! Thanks again for all your after sales advice - something that is lacking from many nurseries especially the one in SA who are only ever reply to queries in relation to new sales. Hope you will have other tropical fruit trees for sale in the future. Do keep us posted.

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Thank you. They don't give me much hope but I like to try

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Lynne,

Many thanks for your kind words regarding to the jujube trees for sale project.

I would like to introduce this fruit tree to everyone because it is almost unknown to Australia.

I do this little venture with passion rather then profit.

I hope that one day this nice fruit will be available every where in Australia.

I understand that sometimes you buy a tree and you go back to the place where you bought for questions and they don

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Michael says...
Hi Ellen,
I see that you got the Chico Jujube variety. Keep us posted on the flavour of your fruit when you get some as I'm keen to get another plant variety.I got the Li variety and if the fruit exceeds my expectations I will plant it in the ground and grow another in a pot .

Are the Jujube sold in Cabramatta fruit store the Indian variety ? and another favour if you ever see the Wampi being sold in Cabramatta then please let me know as I'm so curious to taste this fruit.

Thanks

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Ellen says...
Hi Michael


Yes, I sure will keep you updated on the jujube-chico fruit taste.

And Yes, I'll keep you posted on the Wampi availability in Cabramatta's market .


I hopes when you plant the jujube in the ground - don't plant it too close to the foundation of your house, as a couple of my friends in the state informed me that the root system of jujube are quite invasive, I think this is also why it is considered as a weed classification in WA, Michael .



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Sharma says...
Hi Amanda,
Here are the photos of my nectarine tree leaves that is having problem. any idea what is this and any cure for that home made remedy ???
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Time: 25th September 2009 2:20pm

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Sharma says...
Hi All,
Anybody knows what plant is this??? It has sweet smelling flowers?

another question for the forum is jujube a stone fruit how big is the fruit and the stone??

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Sharma,

Jujube fruit can be as big as 2 inches wide and 3 inches long and could weight up to 90 grams each, depending on variety. They look very much like Indian jujube but sweet to very sweet.

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Sharma says...
Do you have indian jujube for sale??? any photo of the plant or fruit??

Time: 25th September 2009 3:28pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Sorry I don't have Indian jujube and they can't survive in Melbourne. They are weeds in Northern Australia.

Time: 25th September 2009 3:33pm

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Sharma says...
Hi,
The jujube you sell isnt that similar to indian jujube??? may be i can buy your jujube which has sweet taste?
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Time: 25th September 2009 3:47pm

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Sharma says...
Hi Amanda i have posted the Photos on this forum regarding the nectarine leaves problem?

Time: 28th September 2009 4:54pm

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amanda says...
Hi Sharma - I am lost!? Sorry - I lose track of my "threads" if I don't check them every day or so...where are the photos? did u see my pics on the topic Premature leaf drop?

Time: 28th September 2009 9:07pm

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juanita says...
Hi jujube,

The jujube i got from you looks like it's growing some tiny leaf buds...
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Time: 30th September 2009 1:55am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Juanita,

My jujube trees (big and small) have got just little buds just like yours.

Hopefully Melbourne weather will get warmer very soon. Those buds will have lots of leaves and flowers to follow (most likely).

Time: 30th September 2009 8:56pm

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Vin says...
Sharma, Thanks you have made my day, I went straight out and scored myself three good size Guava tree's thank's to you. Please see the photo's I have supplied.One is a Hawaiian Guava, the other is the Yellow Cherry Guava, and I replaced my small Strawberry Guava with a larger one.I also took a picture of the water feature I made awhile ago and my vegi and herb garden along the pathway in the yard. When you look at the Hawaiian Guava you will see the trellis I put in yesterday for my Goji berries.

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Sharma says...
Hi Vin,
Your garden look excellent .....in few years will become a tropical garden with all these plants... i had planted Indian guava and the leaves fell down this winter and i am hoping it should grow again keeping my fingers crossed. send me more photos of your plants.... i would love to know how you made that water feature... i have something in mind but don't know how to execute it. Are you interested in Champaca flowering tree which has excellent fragrant flowers in summer ???
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Vin says...
Hi Sharma,hope your Indian guava comes good for summer,I have not heard about the Champaca Flowering tree but I will research it.As for the Water Feature I do have a drawing I made of it, I could send it to you,let me know if you want it.It's not that hard to make a water feature like my one,but it will cost around $100 dollars to do one up, the most expensive part is the pump around $60. Did you see the little sleeping Bhudda on top of the feature?.Just built a timber frame around the water tank and some wire mesh so I'll have another trellis,for another Goji berry plant.I will also re-arrange my Vegi Garden,as I came across a system called the Square Foot Gardening,I will keep you updated on it.

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Sharma says...
Hi Vin,
I have granite rock rectangular pillar water feature but want to do something for the base.... dont know where and how to start...
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Vin says...
Sharma, put a picture on the site,maybe one of us can give you an idea for the base.

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Time: 8th October 2009 4:18am

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Vin says...
Hello Sharma, had a look on the Net at the Champaca Flowering Tree and it look's really pretty and I read it has a wonderful perfume. I do have Plants of the same family,the Port Wine magnolia, I have four of them and I would like to keep them small but put them in a cluster, I saw it at La manns nursery on Mitcham rd.and the fragrance was beautiful.I will try to get the Chamapca, if you have an idea were I can get one let me know.

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Sharma says...
Hi Vin,
Just give me some time I would give you the address of the nursery from where i had bought Champaca... Today i had planted it in ground. The place from where I got this plant are the whole sellers in Mt dandenong road.
Next time i log in I would give you the address. and put in the picture of the granite water feature block.
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Sharma says...
Hi Vin,
Here is the address of the guys selling Champaca....they have lots of fragrant trees ...must visit nursery....the address is....
Yamina Rare Plants
25 Moores Rd Monbulk VIC 3793
PHONE (03) 9756 6335
FAX (03) 9752 0308
email info@yaminarareplants.com.au

Hope and good luck with your plants.
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Vin says...
Hi Sharma, and all thanks for the information Sharma, I will try to visit the nursery either this weekend or during the week and let you know what I purchased.My Magnolia's are doing their job well at the moment with only a few bud's opened you can smell their fragrance in the air,my wife feel's she in heaven when she is relaxing on her swinging chair.I have attached a photo of the frame,Screen and trellis I put up around the water tank, it was the perfect place to have a second Goji berry vine put in,hopefully she will come good for me next summer.I also have attached a shot of my Square foot Vegi garden system I found on the Net,as you can see you only allocate a square foot for each crop and put in uniformly you should have a good bunch of Vegi's when they are ready to come out.
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juanita says...
Hi sharma,

just wondering if tropical evergreen champaca will survive Melbourne's unpredictable weather?

Time: 10th October 2009 1:13am

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Van Tran says...
Hi Tran,

I like to have Li-jujube, can you let me know where you get them from and how the price is? I tried to find in Sunday market but no one knows. I know that they can grow from the seed. It would be much appreciated if I can get some from you if it is such difficult to find in Melbourne.

Thank you very much.

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Van Tran says...
Hi Stephen,

I got one hass avocado from the fruit, it grew about 1metre tall and then stopped and later died, we do not know why? We have cherry, nectarine, peach, all start to fruit this year. We tried 2 persimmon but all died. Not know why. We live in Endeavour Hills, may it cause the problem? Thanks for all your advice.

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Tran says...
Hi Van,

I bought mine from

Perry's Fruit & Nut Nursery

(08) 8383 0268

Kangarilla Road, Mc Laren Flat. SA 5171

Email: perrys@adelaide.on.net

You should email or give them a call. Good luck.


My Li variety tree produces seedless fruits.

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Hi Tran,

Thanks very much for your prompt reply.

I will try to contact them.

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Time: 12th October 2009 4:08pm

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Sharma says...
Hi juanita,
The champaca will survive in Melbourne as i have seen some big plants in the southe eastern hospital compound and even in a Indian Temple in basin and ....the plants that Yamina Rare Plants sell are all grafted and we just need to protect the plant when young from strong wind. When you visit Yamina rare plants you can see their tree more than 35 years old...
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Hi Van Tran,
What all plants were you able to grow successfully in Endeavour Hills??
I too live in that area so was wondering if i need to take special care for any plants?
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Linda says...
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has success in growing papaya in Melbourne?

Time: 14th October 2009 2:31pm

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nike64 says...
I live on the very bottom of Victoria and have 2 pretty good mango trees

Time: 16th October 2009 7:46pm

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nike64 says...
Ive also got a thriving feijoa guava tree

Time: 16th October 2009 7:48pm

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Sharma says...
Hi,
To all the forum members....
visit this website for eco friendly pesticides for your garden......

http://www.discoverneem.com

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Van Tran says...
Hi Sharma,

I have cherry, nectarine, peach, plum and apricot. Nectarine and cherry already give fruit since last year, peach this year and hopefully apricot and plum. I like to have jujube, do you want to have it, if yes, we can share the cost from WA.

Time: 26th October 2009 12:42pm

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Suresh Silva says...
You could get Chinese red date (jujube seeds) from www.edenseeds.com.au. 9 seeds for 3 bucks. I have just bought mine few days ago.

Time: 26th October 2009 2:07pm

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Anna says...
I would love to hear from any one successfully grown Soursop in Melbourne. I am attempting to grow one but I may waste my time and money for something that is too tropical for Victoria.

Time: 26th October 2009 9:41pm

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tr says...
Anna , I tried for 10 years near Bundaburg and had no luck with soursop , though I did see one bearing in a protected spot in Maryborough [ Qld] ....now mine in the tropics is loaded .
Maybe try custard apple and squeeze lime juice on the fruit ;-)

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Anna says...
Hi Tr,

Thank you, I have to abandon my dream to pick my own soursop and buy from shops when they are in season ;-)

Time: 27th October 2009 7:27am

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Sharma says...
Hi Van Tran,
That is lovely that you can grown so many fruit trees in endeavour hills soil is there any special care you take for your fruit trees???I would live to grown more fruit trees in my garden... was just wondering what is this fruit jujube and what is the indian name???
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jmub says...
Hi dave

I'm really interested in growing some of the fruit tree's you listed but I have some quick questions about two of them:

The what variety of white sapote, cherimoya and chickoo are you growing here in melbourne?

And where did you buy them from?

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Darren says...
Any luck on growing mangosteen in Melbourne anyone?

Time: 28th October 2009 9:06pm

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juanita says...
I think mangosteen, papaya & mangoes are ultra tropical to survive in cool melb weather.

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Many thanks Juanita.

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Darren says...
Many thanks Juanita. I am not going to waste my time growing those mangosteen, papaya & mangoes in Melbourne.

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Ajay says...
Hi All,

Contrary to what I have reading above, I have successfuly grown Mango, Papay and Chikoo in Melbourne. They ahve grown from seed and have survived 2 winters. Having said this, they need very very good care to be taken during winter. - best of luck !

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Hi jujube!,

My Li is growing nicely & putting out more leaves w/ tiny (microscopic) blooms...Im very pleased!

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Ajay says...
Nike64, Would you please post some pictures of your mango trees? Thanks.

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Linda says...
Hi Ajay

How old is your papaya plant? Has it borne any fruit yet?

Time: 12th November 2009 2:17pm

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Steven says...
Hi everyone, my mango tree to my surprise has started to flower!! mine is in a 70litre planter bag and is about 2m tall now. i moved it to this pot during winter and while some leaves have spots etc the overall tree looks fine. Its at the highest point in my back yard so it doesnt really get alot of frost up there.

I think once you get your mango tree to a certain size they are quite resilient and adaptable.

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Linda says...
Wow! Steven,
That's good news. May I know what type of mango it is?

Time: 27th November 2009 10:39pm

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Steven says...
Hi Linda how are you

Its a Kensington Pride (Bowen) mango. I brought it from bunnings about 2 years ago.

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Ajay says...
Hi steven,
Thanks for the photo - very very impressive - you've done it !
Linda: My papaya is only 1.5 years old, it has not borne any fruit as yet. Frankly, I do not expect it to bear fruit as the seasons are too cold here. Papaya (IMHO) needs a lot of humidity for fruit set.
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Hi Ajay

Haha thanks alot. Ill let you all know how it goes. its in full bloom now, but well see how it goes, its a young tree so even if it drops it fruit i wouldnt be surprised, cos young trees obviously do that often.

But its definately a good sign!!

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Brad says...
WA Agriculture have information on tropical fruit in cooler regions here:
http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/objtwr/imported_assets/content/hort/fn/pw/tropicals.pdf

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culebra says...
As seen above, mangoes will definitely grow in Melbourne.
I used to know of a mango tree in the eastern suburbs a few metres tall, didn't see it flower or fruit though.
not sure if it is still there or not.
Also a nursery in south east Melbourne has a planted mango- Kensington Pride in the ground which has survived two winters so far.

Good growing Steve well done. :)
p.s. I also saw mango trees at bunngings while back.

Sharma,
Michelia champaca is one of my fav scented trees.
But I think the scent of M. x alba aka M.champaca 'alba' is even better! fantastic fragrance.
I've been plants of the latter for sale recently, but expensive.
M. alba is supposed to be slightlt less cold hardy than champaca but i have seen some quite large plants in gardens from time to time.
If they are in flower you can smell them before you see them!


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Steven says...
Hi Culebra how are you

Thanks alot, the fruits set however after a couple of weeks they dropped off, which im not worries about, when the tree is more mature it may make fruit, it survived perfectly through the winter even though it was outside.

One of my coffee trees is not in full bloom also, its flowers are just beginning to open. may be too late in the season for the fruit to develop fully but again the trees are quite young to im not worried. they were also outside all winter. I think we can be quite successful getting fruit out of tropical trees in melbourne, as long as they are healthy.

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P.S. Ajay all my cacao trees died at the start of last spring..im not going to bother with those i dont think unless i either build a proper greenhouse or buy a reasonably sized seedling....i think i kept them too couped up though

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J says...
A serious Question about Cherimoya's: Has anyone here actually gotten one to grow well in melbourne AND fruit? If anyone can please answer this question that would be ace.

Also, So far I have read that Fino De Jete and Southern Knight are the two varieties for victoria. I recently spoke to a nursery man in NSW who is growing various varieties (fino included) and he said the variety "BOOTH" is his best and He recommends it even for victoria. Has anyone heard anything about this variety or grown anything other varieties outside of fino and knight?

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Steven says...
Hi J how are you.

Personally i have never grown cherimoya's (or custard apples). but many people have spoken about them on this forum in the past. From what i can gather however is that they are a sub-tropical tree. You can grow many other sub tropical trees in Victoria such as Avocado's, i planted two hass avocado seeds a couple of years ago and both are growing quite well (one got sick however so i cut it right back). I also have a mango tree which flowered this year, although while the fruit did set it dropped them shortly afterwards
(keep in mind though that many young trees even stone fruits do that) and two of the coffee trees i an growing flowered and now have little berries slowly developing (hopefully they dont fall off durning winter).

I would say that if you were to buy a good quality tree and "baby" if for the first couple of years then i wouldnt be surprised if you do have success growing it.

Regards

Steven

P.S. some tropical or sub-tropical trees can become deciduous in cooler climates and by the looks of it its likely yours will so do be surprised if this happens.



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John I. says...
Hi J,

Yes I'm another Melbournite who hasn't grown Cherimoya before (although if I had the room I would). Diggers is a Melbourne based nursery that does sell them. As Steven has mentioned they are deciduos this far south.

www.diggersgardenclub.com.au/pc-1398-25-cherimoya-custard-apple.aspx



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J says...
Thanks Steven and john for replying. John, I've spoken to diggers about their cherimoya (and White sapote) that they sell and they can't seem to tell me what variety if any they are growing (they told me the white sapotes they had were from seeds. Big no no if you want to eat the fruit) So I'm pretty sure I won't be buying a cherimoya through them .. raspberries on the other hand..

Steven, thanks for the info. I'm very interested in hearing from any melbournite on this forum that has got their Cherimoya to fruit and what variety they have.. apparently Louis Glowinksi has a tree or two that fruits, and I would love to get confirmation on that varietie(s) he has growing from someone in the know (or anyone that has been to his open house and spoken to him!).





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amanda says...
J - sapote's are Casimiroa's. Cherimoya's are a type of custard apple. There are two types: "Annona cherimola" and "Anonna atemoya". I think it's A.cherimola that is more cold tolerant...ask Happy Earth, Speedy, recher etc...
A.atemoya's are African Pride, Hilary White, Pink's Mammoth etc.

I reckon sapotes (Casimiroa) would have a good chance where u are - they are really tough here...

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J, thanks I didn't realise Diggers white sapote was grown from seed. I got one last year from diggers so I guess I'll have to wait and see what its like. On the plus side I also got raspberries. :0)

Time: 5th March 2010 9:20am

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J says...
Hi amanda, Thanks for the advice but I'm aware of the difference :). I should have specified in my last post that the impression that I got from Diggers is that both their white sapotes and Cherimoyas (both of which they don't seem to know what varieties they have) were seed grown.

I just spoke to Perry's and they have Southern Knights and Uruguan Cherimoya vareity in stock that produce fruit in Adelaide and should do well here.

Again, I'd like for anyone who has had success growing fruiting cherimoya's (any variety, be in fino de jete or Knight) to give some advice. Thanks for all the replies so far!

Time: 5th March 2010 3:11pm

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amanda says...
Sorry J - didn't read carefully there...have you tried contacting the Vic Ag Dept maybe - they may know a horticulturalist/agronomist who could help.

Time: 7th March 2010 11:19am

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lola says...
um..........ok????

Time: 5th April 2010 5:20am

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Evo says...
J, I can partially answer your question. I have two cherimoyas in Melbourne. They have only been in the ground eight months but they have both powering ahead (doubled in size). I have not seen any signs of distress from them in the cold at all - even though we have had a few 4 degree nights. And being an optimist, yes, I expect that they will fruit one day!

Time: 13th June 2010 5:07pm

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J says...
Hi Evo, Thanks for the reply. Thats good to know. What variety are they?

Time: 22nd June 2010 10:53pm

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PaulW says...
I have Fino de jete growing in Gippsland (about 1hr drive west of Melb). The tree is about 7-8 years old and fruits reliably, but i have to hand pollinate or else i get virtually nothing. I also have a seedling from a seed that i got from Paul Recher that has set heaps of fruit this year even though i didnt hand pollinate it at all.
Cherimoyas are very hardy in this climate in my experience. They loose all their leaves briefly around October or so and then re shoot almost straight away.

Time: 25th June 2010 7:09pm

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Nick says...
Has anyone successfully grown dates because i have just germinated a couple seeds and want to know if it is worth growing.

Time: 26th June 2010 12:40pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Nick,

I have seen 2 trees (8 years old) grown from seeds in Clarinda but not fruited yet. This is the variety that has big fruits like in supermarket.

Time: 26th June 2010 8:06pm

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Steven says...
I might be wrong but im pretty sure ive seen them in the royal botanical gardens in melbourne. If thats the case then they should.

But even so there is no harm in trying. Just because it hasnt happened before doesnt necessarily mean it cant. maybe no one has tried it before, or they didnt take proper care of the tree.

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Time: 12th July 2010 5:00pm

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Nick says...
Thanks for the info but it doesnt matter anymore because they all (6) rotted which was a shame because the roots were about 5cm long. I've also been thinking that everyone underestimates our climate in Melbourne because I've had a minimum of 1 degree and a hot summer for the last 2 years. And even my most tender trees (mangoes) can escape our frostiest nights with minimum protection (old blacket + 2 containers of water)

Time: 17th July 2010 7:38pm

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Steven says...
Yeah from my experience Melbourne weather is pretty good for growing tropical trees. they may not fruit as well as the tropics but they survive pretty well. I have a mango tree in a pot outside fully exposed and it survive last winter and looks fine this winter and my coffee trees are still holding onto their fruit. plus a heap of other young trees which do fine also.

Trees can climatize quite well. plants are usually a little more sensitive, especially small ones as they are more prone to frost being closer to the ground. My bananas look pretty shit every winter but with a little care they survive well and shoot back up when the weather heats up again.

Time: 18th July 2010 5:33pm

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Nick says...
yeah exactly of course the trees will never fruit up to their full potential but its fun just growing something out of the ordinary (and seeing the looks on peoples faces when they see it.) Are your coffee trees in the ground Steven because im deciding whether its worth growing my own or not.

Time: 20th July 2010 5:56pm

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Steven says...
I have 3 coffee trees in total, the largest one i put inside im the living room. but only because it looks really good there. the other two are still outside in pots next to the house for a bit of protection. If you were to plant your in the ground i would probably wait until it gets to a good size (say a meter tall and nice and bushy) and try it. If you have more than one then keep one in a pot and see how the other one goes. Plus being near the beach means the micro climate in your area will be warmer than where i am.

Time: 20th July 2010 6:29pm

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Nick says...
Well thats good. I'll try buying one then planting in near a north facing wall (after clearing all the weeds :P)

Time: 22nd July 2010 5:50pm

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Nick says...
Also how hardy are they?

Time: 25th July 2010 7:22pm

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Steven says...
It depends what you mean by hardy, they do need quite alot of water and fertilizer and arent very hardy to frost and they like filtered light not direct sunlight. but if you look after them they can be grown pretty easily. they look a bit sick in winter but they shoot back up in spring.

And as long as they dont get frost on their leaves they should be fine.

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Time: 26th July 2010 12:18pm

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Nick says...
Thanks for all the info Steven. Also has anyone grown papayas or miracle fruit?

Time: 28th July 2010 6:32pm

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John Mc says...
It would be safer to grow your miracle fruit plant in a pot. You can then move it to a warmer place over winter. They don t grow that big anyway.

Babaco s are fine in cold weather. They even grow them in Tassie. You might lose all leaves but they come back well.

Time: 28th July 2010 7:02pm

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Steven says...
I was going to get miracle fruit but they were sold out when i made my order a couple of years ago. but to be honest i think you wouldnt have much trouble growing most things in a pot in melbourne as long as you look after them.

I might be wrong but from what ive seen i think papayas are more or less a weed that makes fruit in the tropics i dont think they need much to survive at all so they would probably be fine.

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Time: 30th July 2010 12:16pm

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Nick says...
I think I've found a spot perfect for tropical plants. It's between a fence and the house and gets a lot of sun for most of the day because it is north-facing. It is also probably protected from frost because it's near the house. The only downfall is that the area of soil is only about 1 metre wide. Can anyone recommend a tropical plant that can fit narrow places and hopefully have nice fruit?

Time: 31st July 2010 7:22pm

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Steven says...
pineapples might grow well there. paw paw or even banana would probably grow there too. maybe keep them in large pots during their first winter to see how they go. that way you can move them if you need to but they will most likely survive fine.

Coffee prefers filtered light than full sun so as long as you give it that then it will be good too.

Time: 2nd August 2010 1:00am

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Jason says...
Sounds like a good place for bananas to me, the more shelter the better

Time: 2nd August 2010 3:30am

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Nick says...
Come to think of it, it would be nice growing paw paw. does anyone know a place in melbourne to buy paw paw plants

Time: 8th August 2010 8:38pm

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Steven says...
paw paw is the same as papaya. you can buy cutting papayas from daleys. i want a couple too but they are sold out at the moment.

Time: 9th August 2010 4:46pm

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Jason says...
By the way it's better to use the name more correct name papaya since there's already another plant taken the name paw paw that most fruit collectors will have (which would be perfect in a spot like that since it loves shade)

Time: 10th August 2010 10:25am

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Nick says...
Yeah its confusing isn't it. Does anyone know where to buy these fruits in Melbourne?:
Carambola (starfruit)
Custard Apple
Abiu
Black Sapote

Time: 13th August 2010 9:43pm

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Rob says...
Hey Nick, Do you mean the fruit or the tree? There is a boutique fruit and deli shop ($$$) on Brunswick st I have seen Custard Apple at. They also had fiejoa's.

Time: 25th August 2010 6:50pm

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Nick says...
I meant the fruit.

Time: 25th August 2010 8:42pm

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Jason says...
Custard apple and starfruit should be in most supermarkets, safeway etc at certain times of the year, Custard apple is in my safeway right now for example. Those are no problem. Black Sapotes you see someeeeetimes but mostly you would have to be in Queensland to source those, Abiu, I've never seen that in a shop

Time: 25th August 2010 8:45pm

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stephen says...
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Jantina says...
Thanks for the info Stephen but quarantine won't let us buy from you.

Time: 1st September 2010 9:51am

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stephen says...
To ensure that the export demand and quality, in regard to inspection and quarantine clearance of goods to all over the world

Time: 2nd September 2010 12:45am

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Steven says...
Hey everyone

I just wanted to ask. i have a bowen mango growing in a 70L pot outside. Ive had it for a few years now and it survives winter without any trouble. However the trunk, while about 25mm think and woody without a steak it cant support itself at all. luckily the trunk it very flexible but it the steak wasnt there it would lean all the way to the ground.

Is this normal or is it a problem and if so how do i fix it?

Thanks

Time: 7th October 2010 6:21pm

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Jason says...
It normally happens when trees haven't been exposed to any wind or grown inside

Time: 7th October 2010 7:08pm

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Wayne says...
It's not normal and you won't be able to fix it Steven. Bowen mangoes are not designed to grow in pots, one that is "a few years old" should be 3 to 4 meters tall and 5 to 6 inches in diameter.

I know people do but don't grow mangoes in pots, they will remain stunted and produce bugger all fruit.

Time: 7th October 2010 7:14pm

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Steven says...
yeah its in a 70L pot at the moment. I want to plant it somewhere but at the moment i think its best to keep it in the pot. Other than that it looks perfectly healthy. i guess ill just have to stake it and hope it gets stronger as it ages. i will eventually plant it in the ground but cant at the moment.


Thanks alot

Time: 8th October 2010 5:37pm

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shafiq says...
Hi,

Could you please tell me what kind of potting mix/soil I should put to grow guava tree in a pot?

thanks

Time: 11th October 2010 12:44pm

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kathy says...
Hi have successfully grown purple chinese guavas,good size,for some years,have great crops and seedlings,given to friends.Fijoa also does very well with good crops,great with icecream.Would like more on chicoos,sapadillas,want very much to grow one.Should I get grafted or seedlings? thanks.kathy

Time: 15th November 2010 11:54am

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jarod says...
I need to buy guavas (urgent), can you plz advise as to where i could get at this time of the year (may be importers). once i get this i would want to have my own guava tree in the backyard. i'd be very gratrful.

Time: 18th November 2010 7:44pm

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Hayden says...
Bunnings have the trees. Is that what you are after or are you looking for fruit

Time: 18th November 2010 8:07pm

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jarod says...
fruit for now...
cheers

Time: 18th November 2010 9:09pm

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epiphany says...
J: I know your original post regarding cherimoyas was a while ago now but I have an African Pride that I've had for less than a year & it's starting to flower (& I'm in SE Melbourne). Not sure yet if it'll fruit (& I'm going to remove it if it does, so the tree can establish better this year) but it obviously wasn't too worried by our winter.

Having said that, it's currently in a large pot & I moved it out of any potential frost over winter...but my black sapotes are powering ahead (one of which is in the garden out in the open), as are my other tropical trees (even my mamey sapote is hanging in there!), so it' snot beyond the realms of possibility that I might get fruit off the African Pride eventually.

Time: 2nd January 2011 5:29pm

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J says...
Epiphany, thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated. I've got a cherimoya in the ground and I'm planning on getting some more, but its good to know custard apples can survive out in the open in melbourne.

Time: 4th January 2011 10:02pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
I got a Cacao pods from ebay, and pretty much every single seed germinated for me in the setup I have.

Here is a pic of 5 plants growing in a greenhouse in my garage under a 90W LED light. I don't have a fan blowing in the tent, so the humidity is like 70%+ and the plants seem to be loving this.

Hopefully I can get them big enough for next year where I hope to put them outside. Given that they need shade, I'm contemplating planting them directly behind some Pittosporums in the back yard so they only get filtered light.

I actually have excess Cacao plants, so if anyone wants to buy some off me, shoot me an email at milkman at the-milk-bar.com.

Other tropical plants I'm having a crack at this year are Bananas (Blue Java and Dwarf Ducasse) and 3 x Coffee plants.

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Nick says...
I'm interested, how much would you be willing to sell 1 for.

Time: 16th January 2011 1:57pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
$5 a plant. Not looking to make a profit, just to pay for pot/soil/electricity costs etc.


Time: 16th January 2011 2:08pm

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John Mc says...
That's a fair price MiLK_MaN. Most of mine died here inside a poly house last winter. I'm north of Sydney on the coast. They won't survive too much below 7

Time: 16th January 2011 5:51pm

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Nick says...
Geez that's really cheap, I'll e-mail you with my details. Is your e-mail milkman@the-milk-bar.com?

Time: 16th January 2011 6:07pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
Yeah, that's my email address.

I have about 5 seedlings that are in an acceptable state to get rid of.

@John Mc: How big were the plants you had that died? I reckon I'd probably need to have about 12 month old plants before they could probably tolerate a Melbourne winter directly against the rendered brick of my north facing home. This means I'll probably need to have them in a grow tent for all of autumn, winter and spring before unleashing them outside.

It's all an experiment and fun for me.

Time: 16th January 2011 9:03pm

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Steven says...
Those cacao seedlings look good milk man.

Becareful putting them outside though, cacao are super tropical trees and they cant tolerate the cold or lack of water. Try it with one or two first to see how they tolerate the cold.

Ive read forums where a guy has had a cacao tree indoors. It snows where he lives so the indoor temperature at times got to below 5C it survived quite well according to him. but from my experience they are a pretty weak tree outside the tropics. Let us know how they go outside though!!

Im hoping to be able to grow mine in a courtyard. here is a picture of mine so far. I germinated them in a plastic tub with an aquarium heater in it to keep them warm however now they are just in pots near a window.


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Jacqueline says...
We moved from Sydney to the New England Northern Tablelands - Guyra. I would like to raise tropical plants and found this forum topic fascinating.

Is there anyone in the Tablelands having success?

I just bought ginger, lemongrass and a pawpaw from Daley's. I will do anything to have this pawpaw fruit There are many friuts I miss from Sydney but love the lifestyle here.

Have an experimental vege garden, 5 large Rosemary from stem cuttings survived last winter down to -10 add the wind chill - 15 and snow, severe frosts. Citrus fruited last winter and tasted great - not sheltered - jaw's dropped here when they fruited. + 30 blueberries - so much for cross pollination - I only have Brigetta pinched most of the flowers out. The few left turned into blueberries, no one here has any blueberries?? Geese beat me to them.

When you put these tropical trees in the ground what medium / combination do you use to plant them in for success?

Many thanks in advance



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Glory says...
Hi Ajay, Did you try to grow Amla in your home tropical garden? I am interested to grow Amla (Phyllanthus emblica) ? Any one know, Do i get the plant? Ta

Time: 12th February 2011 7:18pm

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Julie says...
Glory, Rev had some seedlings a while ago.

Time: 12th February 2011 8:37pm

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Jess says...
My Wax Jambu set fruit for the first time. This plant has been growing in the pot since 2 years ago.
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Time: 16th February 2011 4:02pm

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J says...
Congrats Jess. Could I ask where you got the wax jambu plant from?

Time: 16th February 2011 4:18pm

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Jess says...
Thanks J, I bought it from Daleys.

Time: 16th February 2011 4:28pm

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Glory says...
Hi Julie. Who is Rev? Thanks for your info.

Time: 17th February 2011 12:49pm

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Julie says...
Glory, he is usually on the foum now and then - perhaps he's away at the moment. I'm sure he'll turn up again when he sees this.

Looking back through this thread, I see his name several times.

Time: 17th February 2011 7:26pm

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Paolo says...
Hi Everyone

I have about 250 Fruit, Nuts Trees etc.

Separeted based on climate requirment.

All of these are growing in werribee Victoria 90% outside and 10% inside a house.

I am looking for cutting exchange and for sharing of ideas, insights and experience.

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List Below:
English Oak
Chestnut
Chestnut General Variety
Almond (All In)
Walnut (Briquette)
Walnut Black
Hazelnut (Cosford)
Hazelnut - Ennis
Hazelnut - Halls Giant
Pine Nuts (Pinus Pinea)
Korean Pine Nuts
Koubo Cactus
Prickly Pears Cactus
Pecan - Cherokee (A)
Pecan - Wichita (B)
Pecan (Unknown variety)
Fig (Preston Prolific)
Fig (White Adriatic)
Fig (Carica -Brown Turkey)
Fig (Black Genoa )
Fig Exel
Fig Piconi
Cherry Red (Sunburst)
Cherry Red (Lapins)
Cherry Red (Stella)
Cherry Red (Starkrimson)
Cherry Red (Van)
Cherry White (Napoleon)
Peach (Elberth)
Peach (Okee Dokee)
Angel Peach - High Chill
Nectarine (Nectazee)
Apple (Golden Delicious)
Apple (Crimson Crisp)
Apple (U.V. Grown from seed Green Apple)
Pear (Paradise)
Pear (Baby Face)
Pear (Nashi)
Plum (Blue King Billy)
Plum (Angelina)
Plum (Greengage)
Plum Gulford
Apricot (Moorpark)
Apricot (Rival)
Apricot: (Cuttings Unknown type)
Quince
Loquat
Loquat Nagasakiwase
Olive (

Time: 21st February 2011 9:26pm

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Glory says...
Hi Paolo, Do you have Indian gooseberry (Amla)?

Time: 23rd February 2011 10:46pm

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Paolo says...
Hi Glory

No I don't apparently it is very acidic and need preparation to be palatable.

Paolo

Time: 13th March 2011 8:53pm

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Maha says...
Hi Paolo,
How big is your Drumstick tree? Is it on the ground outside? I am more interested to know how it would survive the winter.

In the past I tried couple of plants and one died, but the other one survived the winter under a green house but the plant is in the pot. This year I have few more seedlings as I bought the seeds from eBay. I am thinking of moving them to the Garden Shed during winter time.

Appreciate any suggestions on how you grow your drumstick tree to survive Melbourne winter.


Time: 18th March 2011 11:07am

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Maha says...
Hi Paolo,
One more question about growing Ambarella tree in Melbourne. This year I bought one from Daley's. I noted that you have this in your list.

Is it in the ground? Any growing tips on this plant especially to overcome the winter months?

Time: 18th March 2011 11:10am

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Inge says...
Hi Paolo,
You have a great many trees and plants. At what spaces do you plant them? Do you plant them in permacultural guilds?


Time: 15th May 2011 3:01pm

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Paolo says...
All of my plants are in pots. We just purchase a land and looking at puting those plants in either green houses or in specific micro-climates.

The Drumstick tree one died and the other one is in the green house.

In regards to Ambarella I woul suggest to have it in a protected area. Frost Free. Mine is in a pot outside but sheltred under a patio.

I hope this helps
Paolo

Time: 27th May 2011 5:11pm

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Nick says...
Hi guys, does anyone know whats wrong with my cocoa seedlings leaves? The new leaves would go brown and the older leaves have gone orangey-brown around the margins with the discolouration extending between the veins. My plants are kept inside most days except when the greenhouse warms up enough.
Thanks again MiLK_MaN :)
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Time: 18th June 2011 10:09am

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Mike says...
Chloride/salt excess can look a bit like that.K deficiency can also look like that and too much N,Mg or Bo can trigger K defiency.It makes plants less tolerant of cold.

Time: 18th June 2011 10:36am

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Nick says...
Thanks Mike :) Ill pot up the plants out of their original soil and add a bit of potash.

Time: 18th June 2011 12:44pm

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Nick says...
Can anyone tell me how cold it has to get outside before I bring the plants inside- Id like them to toughen up a bit but I dont want them to die.

Time: 18th June 2011 12:51pm

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Steven says...
I usually keep my plants outside all winter. I keep them near the house and away from the wind. they survive fine even though they may get sickly during winter. what kind of plants do you have?

Time: 21st June 2011 6:53pm

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Nick says...
Hey Steven :) Ive got a few tropics such as coffee (great coffee plants btw), a dwarf cavendish, carambola, lychee, guava and numerous other tropical seedlings which I leave in the greenhouse but I'm mainly worried about my cocoas. I potted them up into some nice soil with some wood ash in it so hopefully that works!

Time: 21st June 2011 9:24pm

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Steven says...
The coffee, banana and guava i also have, i keep them outside in winter. The guavas i just leave in the open they will be fine, but keep an eye on them.

As for the cacao, i also have them, keep them inside because they are very sensitive especially when young if they start to die back it may even be a good idea to build a little heated box to keep them in.

I hope this helps

Time: 22nd June 2011 1:49am

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Nick says...
Thanks that helps, how cold does it get at your place?

Time: 22nd June 2011 6:38pm

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Steven says...
It probably gets colder here than it does in Altona. you have the beach, plue its much more built up. I live out in manningham so it wouldnt be too different from you though.

Time: 24th June 2011 5:30pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
What's the humidity like in your greenhouse?

I've read a number of forums that suggest misting your Cacao plants often, as they need 90%+ humidity to really thrive. They also prefer indirect light, you might want to put them under another plant, say a banana tree.

I have coffee and bananas outside, and they are doing fine. Some of my chilli plants have died already from the cold, but the bananas and coffee seem to be doing ok.


Time: 27th June 2011 7:18am

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MiLK_MaN says...
Oh, and here's a pic of two Banana plants in winter. One is a Blue Java (I'm pretty sure it's the taller one), and the other is a Dwarf Ducasse.


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Time: 27th June 2011 7:25am

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Nick says...
Hey Milkman, I'm not sure what the humidity is but I usually mist the plants daily (I've been a bit slack lately because of work). I love your bananas, how much wind protection do they get. My one outside (the dwarf lady finger) has been hammered so far...

Time: 27th June 2011 7:44pm

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snottiegobble says...
Milkman how can we appreciate the health of your bananas when we dont even know the state you are in. :)

Time: 28th June 2011 8:34pm

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Nick says...
Hes in vic Snottie :)

Time: 28th June 2011 9:19pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
Yep, Northern Suburbs of Melbourne. Nick has visited my house to pick up the Cacao from me previously.

Although, when I saw the Western Bulldogs jumper, I was tempted to turn him away immediately!

Time: 30th June 2011 6:07pm

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snottiegobble says...
I like that one MM, he must be a friend of Julie`s! :)

Time: 30th June 2011 7:51pm

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Nick says...
Hahahaha :)

Time: 1st July 2011 6:36pm

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Julie says...
Huh?

Time: 1st July 2011 8:31pm

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snottiegobble says...
I beg forgiveness Julie, I meant Julia our PM!

Time: 4th July 2011 8:04pm

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David says...
Hi Paolo.

The list of plants you are growing is impressive. I've been experimenting with growing exotic fruit trees for about 10 years in pots and only recently have had land to plant things in the ground. I've currently got growing:
feijoas (3 varieties)
chilean guava
raja puri banana
cherimoya (white)
wampee
longan
loquat
nectarine
white sapote (2 vareties)
pomegranate
several dwarf citrus
several dwarf apples
babaco
macadamia
blueberry
jaboticaba
kei apple
casana
tropical apricot (eugenia myrcianthes)

I'm always interested in exchanging info and experience and where I can plant material. I've currently got some interesting seeds that I'm attempting germinate and will keep the forum posted.

Time: 7th July 2011 6:05pm

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John Mc says...
Hi David,
Nice impressive list you have there.
Are you keen to expand your collection? I have a casana relative here called a Cocona. Very similar, but I'm chasing a Casana if you were keen on a swap, I'd even settle for a few seeds or a cutting for a small Cocona seedling.

Did you know the Kei Apple are separate male and female trees? I have two but to have more chances of getting a male and a female I'll have to get a couple more to be sure.

Time: 7th July 2011 8:14pm

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Jantina says...
Hi David, I've been chasing a raja puri banana, do you mind telling me where you got yours? thanks.

Time: 7th July 2011 8:21pm

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peter says...
hi jantina
i recentlly got a raji puri from my
local mitre 10 store.
the lable said it was from humphris nursery 0397619688 but they do not have
it on their list of cool climate
fruiting varieties.

Time: 8th July 2011 3:00pm

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Paolo says...
Thanks David, maybe we can exchange some cuttings and plants.

Paolo

Time: 8th July 2011 3:39pm

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David says...
Hi John. I've only had the casana in the ground a few months and it is growing strong but no fruit yet. I imagine it strikes from cuttings readily like the tamarillo. I'm happy to give that a go for you in spring when it starts growing again. I'd like to try the cocona and I'd happily swap. Have you had fruit off it yet? Another solanacea I've ordered seeds for is solanum caripense which should grow in Melbourne as a small annual with fruit similar to the pepino but apparently heavier bearing, juicier and more tangy.

I've got 5 kei apples in a pot so the odds are roughly 93% that I have at least one of each gender. It has flowered and little fruits form but then fall off. I think they need a bigger pot or to be in the ground. Keep in touch regarding the swap.

Time: 8th July 2011 5:43pm

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David says...
Hi Jacinta.

The raja puri I purchased was part of the "cool bananas" range from a Victorian producer and I got it at Bunnings. From my reading it seemed to be the most likely to fruit in Melbourne without alot of fuss and it was a nice small size. My memory is that in speaking to person who orders the plants they come in late spring. I planted mine in November and it has grown alot and there are a couple small suckers around the base. I think they can/should be pulled up and I'm happy to give you one in spring if you can't track one down.

Time: 8th July 2011 5:50pm

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David says...
Hi Paola.

We'll keep in touch. I'm always interested in new plants despite already running out of room at my new place.

Time: 8th July 2011 5:52pm

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David says...
Sorry Paolo for spelling your name incorrectly.

Time: 8th July 2011 5:53pm

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Linton says...
I've been trying to grow Gac fruit from seeds in Springvale but so far none have ever germinated. Does anyone have experience growing Gac in Melbourne?

Also Betel leaf seems to do well in pots here although its not a fruit.
cheers.

Time: 11th July 2011 10:56am

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John Mc says...
Where did you source your Gac seed Linton? I haven't been able to find any from within Australia.

Time: 11th July 2011 12:46pm

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Linton says...
Hi John
I just got the fruit from an asian grocery shop here in Springvale and took the seeds out and dried them. So it could be they weren't fresh or might have been frozen so wouldn't germinate. Just ordered some fresh seeds from overseas so I'll try again with those.

Time: 11th July 2011 1:31pm

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John Mc says...
What do they taste like? I heard they are bland but are high in antioxidants.

Time: 11th July 2011 8:49pm

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Linton says...
Gac are not normally eaten as a fruit. In Vietnam they are used to impart the red colour to the rice on special occasions like weddings. I've never actually eaten one.

Time: 12th July 2011 11:33am

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shalvin says...
Hi guys, I live in Sunshine (West Melbourne). Please see picture of Indian Guava that fruited in summer this year and ripened 2 weeks ago (middle of winter). Plant is 2.5 years old. I have also grown drumstick tree from seed (although in winter it dies and then grows again from the root in summer). I have also seen sugar cane grow in Sunshine.
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Nath says...
Hi Robbie,

I'm in Ballarat and looking to plant one where did u buy ur plant from??

Cheers
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Time: 14th August 2011 8:58pm

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Nick says...
Nath, Bunnings are currently stocking some seedlings but if youre up for a small drive, Laverton Market usually have some nice tall ones.

Time: 14th August 2011 9:17pm

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Hoang says...
Dear Tran,
Have you successfully grown rose apple, Asian grapefruit and mango(with fruit)? Any suggestion please.


Time: 15th August 2011 3:43pm

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Tran says...
Hi Hoang
Yes, with Rose apple and Asian grapefruits
but not mango. I suggest you grow rose apple in pot and grapefruits can be grown in garden with full sun and lots of water at flowering time.

Time: 16th August 2011 4:14pm

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Mel says...
Hi Shalvin,
May I know what you feed your quava plant? My plant of 3 years had 2 flowers but the fruit didn't form. Does your drumstick plant produce fruit? May I know where did you get the seeds from?

Time: 19th August 2011 9:50am

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Hoang says...
Can the rose apple grow in the garden?

Time: 19th August 2011 4:45pm

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epiphany says...
My rose apple is currently growing quite happily in the garden.

Time: 20th August 2011 1:26pm

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Robbie says...
Hi Nath, what plant is it that you are after here in Ballarat?

Time: 25th August 2011 10:05am

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Robbie says...
Hi Nath, what plant is it that you are after here in Ballarat?

Time: 25th August 2011 10:05am

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Robbie says...
Oops - repeating myself :-)

Time: 25th August 2011 10:07am

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shalvin says...
Hi Mel, I just give it normal fruit and citrus fertilizer and some blood and bone in spring. The drumstick is too small to fruit - but we get enough leaves. I got the seed from an aunt in Sydney. They grow well there apparently.

Time: 5th September 2011 5:56pm

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Ajay says...
Hi,
Glad to be back in this forum after ages! I have been a busy body and have been trying to sprout bilimbi and phylanthus acidus - got a couple of seedlings which promptly died during this winter :(
I have 4 guava ,1 papaya, 3 carambola, 2 coffee, 5 sapodilla (sapote/chikku), 3 custard apple and 4 tamarind (tamindus indica). Most of the plants mentioned above have been growing for around 3 - 4 years - rather successfully ! Anyway, I am looking to swap/sell any extra plants so that I could pursue seeds of more exotic varieties - I only grow from seed as I have noticed the seedlings are more hardy and they acclimatize better. I am contactable on 0458580062

Time: 6th September 2011 9:51am

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Nick says...
Hi Ajay, I'm interested in a tamarind and sapodilla, what would you like in return? I have pineapples, longans, avocados, pomegranates, pepinos and a lychee (all seedlings except the pineapples and pepinos) :).

Time: 6th September 2011 7:22pm

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Ajay says...
Hi Nick,
Thanks for that. I forgot to mention that I have Lychee and Longan. I am currently searching for Neem, Cacao and Mango.

Time: 8th September 2011 12:33pm

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J says...
Ajay, how did you get your Chiku trees to survive this winter? Mine are looking pretty bad right now and I had them in a green house.

Time: 8th September 2011 2:44pm

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Nick says...
I've got 2 cacao seedlings but atm I dont think theyre going to survive...

Time: 8th September 2011 7:23pm

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shalvin says...
By any chance do you have a kava plant?


Time: 9th September 2011 12:07am

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Ajay says...
Hi Nick,
I would be interested in seeing the cacao seedlings if you dont mind. Perhaps we could have an exchange :)
I am reachable on 0458580062 if you want to dicuss futher.

J:
I have situated the chiku on a shelf high up against a north facing wall - they love it !

Time: 16th September 2011 1:40pm

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Nick says...
Hi Ajay, the seedlings arent much with no leaves and all... Ill give you a ring when I return from France early october- hopefully they will have started to grow. :)

Time: 17th September 2011 12:03am

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Fruit Lover says...
Hi Guys,
Forever Seeds have Cocoa plants for sale

www.Forever-seeds.com

email:
info@forever-seeds.com

They are also on ebay too.
Store name:"Forever Seeds"

They have heaps of rare and hard to get tropical fruit trees and tropical fruit tree seeds. They specialize in edibles, endangered plants and aromatics plants like essential oil producing plants ect, vegs and herb seeds too.
They also have great after sales care too all ways available to answer any questions you have or help out with gardening tips.
They even gave me a free gift seedling with my plant order.

Oh and I read about some one wanting Michelia Champaca "Joy Perfume" they have the seeds too for sale on ebay, 10 seeds for $3.
Would recommend to anyone.


Time: 20th September 2011 2:49pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
The majority of my Cacao seedlings have started sprouting new growth again. I even chopped a few back, and they've stayed alive with new sprouts emerging from the remaining stem.


Time: 22nd September 2011 1:33pm

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Linton says...
Hi Ajay
Can you tell me if your Carambolas are growing outside in the open and which type they are as the Kary variery is supposed to be the most cold tolerant.
I'd like to know how they go in Melbourne before getting some.

Time: 25th September 2011 11:39am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE says...
I had my Kary Carambolas in 50 litre pot outside in Melbourne for 8 years, massive of flowers (May) every year but could not set fruits, it may be that I need another type, it could be too late to set fruit.

Time: 25th September 2011 5:48pm

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John Mc says...
It could be the latter Lucy. They do flower late here and if we get a cool autumn like we just had, the fruit doesn't ripen, it just stays on the tree and eventually falls off. I have had some fantastic fruit in the past but they're a little marginal here, just north of Sydney, in my opinion.

By any chance, is there any Chico's left? or too late for this year?

Time: 25th September 2011 8:41pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE says...
Hi John,

Thank you very much for clarifying on the Kary star fruit. You are right, I now remember having some fruit sets when I first got the tree that January years ago but the tree was too young so all of those tiny ones just dropped off. Anyway, Last year, I gave it away to someone who has a hot house.

Regarding to the chico jujube, I have none left for this year and it is also too late to plant. I can get you one next year if you like.

Lucy.

Time: 25th September 2011 8:53pm

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John Mc says...
I wonder if there are any earlier fruiting vars? Mine sets too close to winter for my liking. If it set a month or so earlier, cooler autumn's wouldn't be a problem. Two years ago I had a fantastic crop. Sorry to interfere in the thread, I'm located an hour north of Sydney.


Time: 25th September 2011 9:49pm

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J says...
Well that's good to hear, Ajay. My Two chikus I got from daleys got knocked for a six this winter. I kept them in the green house but they really didn't like it here in the hills even with shelter. I Don't think they are coming back. My kensinton mango on the other hand has survived 2 winters in the ground with no protection. Mango > Chiku/Sapodilla for cold tolerance!

Time: 26th September 2011 11:16am

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Jane says...
Hi Dave,

I'm interested in knowing exactly which macadamia nut tree you're growing and getting nuts from. I'm going nuts trying to research what will grow in Melbourne reagrds Jane

Time: 8th October 2011 9:22am

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Ajay says...
Hi Linton,
I am not sure which cultivar of carambola it is as I grew them from seed. I got the fruit from Vic market.

Time: 10th October 2011 11:31am

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Linton says...
Don't think I will be getting a Carambola as it seems unlikely to bear fruit in Melbourne.
How about Mexican Calabash as I'm thinking of getting one now but wonder if they are being grown down here. Thanks.

Time: 11th October 2011 2:53pm

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vdrink says...
Hi everyone,

My 2nd year of growing mangoes( grafted), guava & elderberry in melbourne...so far all good.

If anyone has a banana plant to trade for an elderberry or nam doc mango seedling please let me know!
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Time: 13th October 2011 9:51pm

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juanita says...
Hi Vdrink...How big is a matured elderberry bush? is it deciduous? does mango do come true from seed? I assume or mango seedling isn't grafted??...I think i'll be able to swap ladyfinger banana pups w/ you..I have pisang ceylan too & there are few pups around.

Time: 31st October 2011 2:37pm

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Linton says...
About the Elderberry is it the same as Sambucca nigra? This plant is supposed to be a good cure for hayfever but how does it work. I read that you have to make tea from it. Ideally I would just like some plant I can put in the room to stop my hayfever so I'm thinking the sambuuca or Elderberry might work.

Time: 9th November 2011 1:24pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
An update on my Cacao plants.

I have about 8 that survived winter, and I've potted up a few to give more root space. Most of the leaves fell off in winter, but as soon as the weather picked up, they started to sprout again.

They are all in the garage inside a grow tent, under a 400W CMH (Ceramic Metal Hallide) lamp. No heating is added, and a fan is on the side blowing air around.

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Time: 15th November 2011 12:28pm

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Nick says...
Would a miracle fruit grow outside in Melbourne?

Time: 25th November 2011 6:00pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
I don't see why not. I thought about growing it, not sure where I'd put it though, quickly running out of space in the front yard.

I just got back from a trip to Singapore and found one of my Cacao has actually flowered. Just a single flower, I think they need both a male and female flower from opposite plants to pollinate, so not really expecting anything from it. Just kinda surprised that I've got a flower in just over 12 months, everything I've read online suggests it would take a lot longer than that.


Time: 26th November 2011 7:28pm

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Nick says...
Thats amazing news, congrats!! Hopefully you can get a pod from it, I read on one website that cocoa flowers have both male and female parts (do they also have a mushroomy smell?) :) For the miracle fruit I was thinking about growing it in shade, because they apparently need shade (easily obtained when you have a long south-facing fence..)

Time: 26th November 2011 7:50pm

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Linton says...
Hi Nick
I tried growing a Miracle Fruit last year but it didn't survive, not even inside. I think they would be impossible to grow outside in Melbourne as they are extremely cold sensitive and I don't know of anyone who's been able to grow them here.
I would be glad to hear if you succeed in grwoing one and how you did it.

Time: 4th December 2011 6:51pm

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MiLK_MaN says...
I decided to chance my luck with one of the Cacao outside, directly under the front entrance to the house which is pretty well protected from the sun light.

The plan is to mist the leaves in the morning and the evening. I don't fancy my luck, and if the Cacao dies I will probably just replace it with a Frangipani.

There's still another 8 Cacao in the garage, I think I'm going to have to sell 4 of them as I really don't have the space.

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Time: 18th December 2011 10:45am

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Steven says...
Good luck, let us know how they go

ive put two of mine outside in the greenhouse now under the banana's so far so good, so im hopeing to soon be able to put them all outside.

Time: 18th December 2011 6:28pm

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bayside says...
Its all about the microclimate , aspect etc. I give you folks 10/10 . Great thread .

Time: 18th December 2011 8:18pm

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vdrink says...
Hi Juanita,

I have already given away the mango seedling. I still have a couple of elderberry rooted cuttings. They are a small bush that grows just under a meter.
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Time: 20th December 2011 11:12pm

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vdrink says...
My friends banana tree fruiting in Narre Warren VIC.
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Time: 20th December 2011 11:24pm

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juanita says...
Hi vdrink..it's ok im not interested w/ mango seedling..btw, is your friend's banana tree grows next to a fence or shed, it looks like a sheltered corner? what type of banana is it?

Time: 29th December 2011 1:29am

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Justin says...
In case anyone is interested here is how my warm-climate trees have fared in Melbourne. We get the occasional frost in winter, but nothing too severe. I don't have a hothouse, and I don't protect my trees much except for some hessian and agricultural fleece if it's going to be very cold.

All trees are about 4-5 years old, and most were purchased from Daleys.

Avocado - Haas and Secondo are doing ok, and produced their first small fruit this year (to be harvested next year). Fuerte is growing fine, but has not produced any fruit.

Feijoa - Flowering profusely but yet to produce any fruit. Varieties = Mammoth and Appollo, and some seedlings.

Longan - Extremely slow growing. Touch and go as to whether it will survive.

Peanut Butter Tree - On it's last legs. I suspect it will die this winter.

Babaco - Very successful, fruits abundantly (but not many people like the fruit!)

Chilean Guava - Two died, one dying.

Jambu - Forget about it for Melbourne.

Tamarillo - no problem growing in Melbourne.

Passionfruit - grows well, but only the standard black variety.

Hawaiian Guava - struggling, very slow growing, and experiences a lot of die back in winter. Touch and go.

Black Sapote seedling - growing slowly but seems to be fairly cold tolerant.

Natal Plum - fairly cold tolerant, but needs full sun to thrive.

Bananas - forget about them for Melbourne. They can grow, but highly probable they will die over winter, and very unlikely to fruit. These are dwarf varieties marketed as "cold tolerant". Beware of marketing.

Pomegranate - growing well, but yet to produce fruit.

Jackfruit - tried to grow from seed, but died in first winter. Wishful thinking for Melbourne.

One other word of warning - just because nurseries sell it doesn't mean it can grow in the same area.

Time: 30th December 2011 2:01pm

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John I. says...
Hi Justin, my experience is slightly different. I haven't tried most of the plants you list but have had some success with bananas (currently have a fruit on my ladyfinger and blue java).

As for Bababco I didn't like it at first, but it has started to grow on me.

Time: 31st December 2011 5:57pm

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vdrink says...
Hi Juanita, my friend is not sure what variety it is. It's growing next to the corner fence without any shelter. He has around 8 plants growing next to each other and a couple have reached around 5 meters.

Time: 2nd January 2012 3:05pm

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swanston1 says...
This is a really great forum page. Just reading about all the tropical fruits grown in Melbourne areas. I have just grown mango and hass avocado from seed. They are both doing really well. Now for the tantalising part. I did find a business that sell and post both Cacao pods and seedlings. I ordered one seedling, 25 cm high (6 months old) and it arrived today. 2 leaves and some new shoots and even one tiny bean on it, not a pod but a little bean growing on the side. I have potted it in fern and palm mix with some very very rough loose soil at the bottom. It is spending its first night in a very warm hothouse I have out the back. I have it in Hampton Park, Sth East Melbourne. I also have many tree ferns, so the cacao seedling may yet get its own hothouse under a tree fern. They are such cute seedlings. You can check out this website for cocoa and they do post to Vic, but not Tas or WA. Great packing and the cacao arrived within 24hrs and looked very healthy indeed.
http://forever-seeds.com/

Time: 13th January 2012 1:26am

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swanston1 says...
P.S here is an image of the Cacao seedling. 25cm high at 6 months old.
Again. This is where is purchased the seedling, or they sell pods as well and many other rare tropical fruits.
They will post to Vic.
http://forever-seeds.com/
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Time: 13th January 2012 1:28am

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MiLK_MaN says...
I measured one of my Cacao plants from the garage today, it's only a few cms shy of being a metre tall from the soil line!

I've also yanked the top of a Pineapple plant, and it looks like its rooted and already sprouted new leaves.

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Time: 20th January 2012 7:25pm

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Salvias says...
Hi Tran,
Is Tran Vietnamese name?
I have never heard or seen star apple. What is it like?

Time: 1st February 2012 8:30pm

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Salvias says...
Hi,
I have a one year old finger lady banana plant and there is another coming up. I would give it to you for free if I knew where you are situated.

Time: 1st February 2012 9:07pm

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Linton says...
I've got 2 Taiwan Sweet Olive trees which I want to dig up if anyone wants them. Have just cut them right back as they were getting too thick and vigorous. One is the broad leaf type and the other has normal leaves as you need 2 plants to cross pollinate.

Time: 3rd February 2012 10:00am

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Nick says...
How big are the plants Linton, are they edible? :)

Time: 3rd February 2012 3:55pm

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Linton says...
They're Elaeagnus macrophylla or Oleasters or Silverberry. Apparently the fruit are edible. They were about 3 metres high before I hacked them so only one small trunk is remaining.

Time: 4th February 2012 9:14am

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epiphany says...
Just answering a question a few posts back...I have a miracle fruit in Narre South that sulked for a bit because I took a while to pot it up but it has come away again & seems to be doing well now (touch wood). It's over a year old & survived the winter well. It hasn't had a chance to fruit yet but it'll be interesting to see if it does ok this year. I move it under the patio in winter so it doesn't get any frost but other than that, it stays outdoors all year.

As for bananas...I have several different varieties, all potted (so I can move them round)...all doing well & I'm really hoping they'll fruit this year. I have pups avail if anyone would like one. Would be interested in swapping for a cacao or something interesting.

As an aside, I was thrilled to find flowers on one of my black sapotes today. Not sure if they'll stick around but it's nice seeing them there. And my African Pride custard apple seems to be trying to fruit. Yay!

Time: 6th February 2012 8:29pm

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MaryT says...
Thanks epiphany; there's still hope for my miracle fruit yet...bananas and black sapotes in pots - that sounds exciting as I also have a container garden (on concrete). It's encouraging to read about other people's successes.

Time: 7th February 2012 6:53am

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Lilly Pilly says...
There is a Victorian nursery in Monbulk, in the Dandenong Ranges, called 'Yamina Rare Plants' - they have an excellent range of rare food plants and many tropicals. You can see their catalogue at www.yaminarareplants.com.au . They have many more plants in their nursery that aren't listed in their catalogue. And if you get a chance to talk to the owners, they can tell you how to prepare a lot of the rarer foods.
There's also Isabell Shippard's herb farm in Queensland, & she sells some fantastic food trees - I think she delivers to Melbourne: www.herbsarespecial.com.au .

Time: 12th February 2012 8:56pm

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veevee says...
My Nam Doc Mango tree growing in melbourne
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Klokanovic says...
I'm replying to a post that is 2 years old I know..but does anybody know which NSW Nursery man J is refering to that grow Cherimoya cultivars?

In particular, does anybody know any other place to source 'Fino De Jete' other than Daleys?

Thanks

Time: 14th March 2012 9:51am

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mrgreenfingers says...
Do you know of any fruit trees that won't require repotting? Can you please suggest the type, size of pot and soil?
I have soil containing earthworms which I am proposing to use.

Time: 18th March 2012 4:08pm

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chrysanthy says...
Really thanks for this great forum and see so many guys have deep love for fruit growing. i have mine peach tree and it really fruitful even though it do not have too many sunshine there but i offer light with LED Spotlights, it really helpful.
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J says...
Veevee that is a great photo! Can you tell us more about where you got the nam doc mango tree from? Did you grow it from seed? Is it in the ground or potted? What kind of protection/shelter does it get in winter? Have the fruit ripened properly? So many questions! I ask because this is the first proper photo I've seen of a Mango tree fruiting in melbourne.

Time: 1st April 2012 11:54am

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veevee says...
Hi J,
I got the mango tress from daleys last year. I got a Nam doc & a different type. I had them outside last year & they were not doing well. I have them both in big pots. Since spring I have covered them with a small pastic hot house & they are growing very fast & healthy. It has lost one of it's fruits but the rest are very slowly ripening.

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J says...
Hi VeeVee, thanks for the reply. Please keep us updated on if the mango's on your nam doc ripen properly and how the ripened fruit taste. and if it flowers and fruits again next season. Very exciting.

Time: 5th April 2012 10:21pm

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mayday says...
Great platform.
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Linton says...
The guavas are fruiting well right now. Also have a couple of fruit on a Brazillian Cherry but they are sour to eat. Are they always like this?

Time: 10th May 2012 7:21pm

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Linton says...
Hi Mr Greenfingers
I wouldn't recommend using normal soil with worms for growing fruit trees in pots. I think you would get better results using a high quality potting mix containing the correct nutrients, consistency and drainage.
It's still a good idea to repot with fresh mix every few years and then you have the opportunity to prune the roots at the same time.
What does anyone else think?

Time: 11th May 2012 10:56am

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MaryT says...
I agree Linton. Earth worms works well in the earth, not in potty mix as they need to eat organic matter. If you trap them in a small place like a pot they have no alternative but eat the organic matter in the mix.

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Linton says...
A good tropical fruit tree to grow in Melbourne is a Brazilian Cherry because it's evergreen, it grows fast and mine is starting to fruit in 2 - 3 years. It likes the climate here and the leaves turn a nice red colour in Spring. But the fruit is not nice to eat, it's very sour.
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John Mc says...
They grow on you, I'm quite fond of them now. I leave them on till they're a very dark purple almost black where they are at their best.

Time: 13th May 2012 8:02pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

Yes, you can grow pitanga in Melbourne. I have seen a big tree in Endevour Hill with plenty of fruits. They are very sour indeed. I like to eat a miracle fruit first then pitanga. you would be in heaven if you do it that way.

Time: 13th May 2012 8:02pm

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John Mc says...
I agree Lucy, a miracle berry allows an excellent flavour to come through when the soureness is removed.
I can't wait to try the grafted Black variety I recently bought from Forbidden. Might be a couple of years away from fruiting, but being grafted hopefully it might be sooner than later.

Time: 13th May 2012 9:34pm

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Linton says...
I'm sure they would taste much better after a miracle fruit. The thing is I've never been able to grow a miracle fruit in Melbourne - they just die at the slightest cold weather so I gave up with them a long time ago.

Time: 14th May 2012 10:06am

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Linton says...
Hi John

what is the black variety you mentioned, do you mean black miracle fruit or black cherry? Where is Forbidden? Thanks.

Time: 14th May 2012 10:11am

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John Mc says...
It's a Black Brazillian Cherry, rare and apparently sweeter than the red variety. I just slapped myself on the wrist for mentioning Forbidden. Daley's have seedling black brazillian cherries in production or you can pre purchase for only $14.90.

Time: 14th May 2012 8:44pm

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Linton says...
Hi Lucy, John,
how big does the brazillian cherry grow? Mine is nearly 3 metres high now. How big is the one in Endeavour Hills?

Time: 15th May 2012 12:18pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

It was about 5 meters tall, 2 years ago. It must be 6 or 7 meters now.

Time: 15th May 2012 6:45pm

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Linton says...
Thanks for the info about black Brazillian cherries, John. I've reserved one from Daley's - are they also grafted?

Time: 18th May 2012 11:00am

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Linton says...
I'm also growing another fruit of Eugenia family called Araca Boi. It's nothing like the cherry, it's fruit look like they are going to be larger and yellow colour but I read they might still be sour to eat.
It's still in a pot but is showing some new leaves growth now which is a good sign I guess.
I would be interested to hear if they can be grown to fruit here in Melbourne. Thanks.
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Mike says...
Linton, Eugenia stipitata and they are a small tree with quite large yellow fruit.They are sour but considered to have great flavour for icecream,drinks and good when sweetened.They go alright in the subtropics and are a lovely tree.Good luck in Vic.

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Linton says...
I'm totally confused about Finger Limes since there's so many varieties and so much written about them. Can they be grown in Melbourne and which types are the best?
Daleys website says the grafted ones are the most hardy but they don't say which ones in their shop are grafted, except for one general one.
Also which type is least sour and can be eaten straight - maybe the Tasty Green? I also like the reds for colour but not sure if they are grafted and will grow here in Victoria. Please help if you have experience with the limes. Thanks.

Time: 19th May 2012 10:59am

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Linton says...
This is a picture of a Canistel plant I just got from Daleys. The variety is Emma which is supposed to be more hardy.

The leaves look a lot like Mango and it's very healthy and big when it arrived. Hope it grows fast down here and gives good fruit, no idea what they're like.

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Time: 28th May 2012 12:00pm

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John Mc says...
Linton, there is a chance it could lose it's current leaves due to the climate change from where it came. It will then throw new acclimatised leaves shortly thereafter. I have bought other cv's of Canistel where it lost it's leaves and never recovered.

Time: 28th May 2012 2:31pm

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Linton says...
That's very interesting John, I didn't know that and I often wondered why some plants dropped their leaves as soon as I got them.

The Canistel hasn't lost any yet and I've had it a few weeks now in very cold conditions so I think it will be ok.

On the other hand, the Araca Boi I got last Summer when the weather was warmer lost all its leaves within 1 day of receiving it. They have all grown back now however.

Time: 29th May 2012 10:06am

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Linton says...
This is a picutre of a Marula tree I got about eighteen months ago and seems to be doing well. I know it's still a long way off producing any fruit but I would like to know if the fruit can be eaten by humans. I read that elephants eat them in Africa.
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Time: 7th June 2012 6:38pm

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Julie says...
Elephants eat the fermented fruit and get DRUNK!

Time: 12th June 2012 7:53pm

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amanda says...
Lol..wouldn't want to get in the way of one of those elephants then!? Just read an article about birds getting drunk on a type of berry and whole flocks drunk-flying straight into buildings in LA...oops.

Sorry Linton - off topic there :) Have u tried the Search function? I think this plant has been discussed b4 - maybe by Mike and Jujube...?

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Linton says...
Thanks but all I could find was about elephants eating them, nothing about human consumption. But the Marula is related to the Mango so maybe the fruit is similar too.

Time: 14th June 2012 10:35am

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BJ says...
Linton, you can make a pretty good hard drink from it. Amarula to you and me. I believe it is eaten, but mostly made into alcohol.

As per Wiki: Fruits are commonly eaten fresh or used to prepare juice, jelly and alcoholic drink.

Time: 14th June 2012 11:14am

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Linton says...
About Amanda's comment on birds getting drunk, I'm actually growing 3 Drunken Parrot Trees. They're also known as African Bean or Boer Bean Trees and exude a lot of nectar which the parrots love to drink and get drunk on it.

I have a lot of lorikeets come to my garden every day so I'm hoping to get them drunk when these trees are big enough to flower and produce the potent nectar.

Time: 19th June 2012 6:18pm

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Linton says...
Another plant I'm growing to make drink is the Khat Tree in the picture. It's other name is Catha Edulis and it's used for making Persian Tea. It grows well in Melbourne.
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Time: 23rd June 2012 5:59pm

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amanda says...
I wouldn't plant it anywhere it can be seen by the public Linton!? These trees are regularly stripped in Perth suburbs...as they are narcotic.

Time: 23rd June 2012 7:36pm

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Linton says...
I'm thinking about getting some Dwarf Lychee Trees from the nursery in Police Road where they have some good sized and healthy ones that don't seem to be fazed by the cold frosts we've been having.

But the big question and what I would like to know is has anyone ever had Lychee Tress produce fruit in Melbourne? I guess there would be more chance with the dwarf variety so please let me know if you have ever managed to get a crop here. Thanx!

Time: 9th July 2012 5:19pm

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Linton says...
Quinine Tree!

The Quinine Tree grows rampantly, even here in Melbourne. This one I've been growing in the pot for 2 years. I'm afraid to plant it in the ground because they are huge trees and have extensive invasive roots.

The problem is that it's too vigorous to try to keep small in a pot and will soon become pot bound. I don't think there is any solution to this.

Even so, I'm curious as to how the Quinine is extracted from the tree. I believe it is one of the main ingredients in Bitter Lemon soft drink.
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Linton says...
Looking for fresh fruit Sapodillas!!

I'm looking for some fresh sapodillas for eating. Have tried the asian fruit shops in Springvale but they don't have any.

Maybe in Footscray market or somewhere else?????

Time: 25th July 2012 9:57am

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Linton says...
Bolivian Fuschia Fruits

I read that these are sold in the markets in South America. However I find that the fruits on the Fuschia Bolivianas that I am growing here are not at all palatable.

Maybe they are just not ripe yet!
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Nick T says...
What did the fruits you eat look like? They should be fully formed and a deep purple colour all over. I tried one at the botanic gardens and it was fairly tasty (better than your standard fuchsias at least) but apparently the fruits of Fuchsia splendens taste the best :)

Time: 10th August 2012 7:16am

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Linton says...
They're mostly a green colour with a little red on some of them, exactly as the ones I took in the photo.

So I guess they're not ripe yet as they are supposed to be nice to eat.

Time: 10th August 2012 6:42pm

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Nick T says...
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/bolivian_fuchsia.htm

Time: 10th August 2012 9:44pm

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Linton says...
Yes, that's the ones I have that are shown on the website. They grow like a small tree and flower for most of the year. Very easy to grow from cuttings too.

Time: 11th August 2012 3:06pm

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Linton says...
Getting seeds to germinate - Epsom Salts.

Since I haven't had a very good success rate in growing things from seed I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong. The problem is in getting them to germinate in the first place.

I saw on a DVD about growing plants that they used Epsom Salts in the water they put on the seeds which helps them to germinate. So I would like to know if Epsom salts really does improve the germination rate or is there anything else which helps. Thanks.

Time: 16th August 2012 10:15am

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Linton says...
I've been growing a Memecylon Edule for the past few years without any problems. Now in the past month it has a sticky thick clear liquid on the leaves.

There are also a couple of tiny brown lumps in the middle of the leaves which you can see in the picture. They might be some kind of pest or insect that is causing this problem.

I seem to recall that there is a pest called honey dew insect as the liquid does resemble a very sticky dew like substance.

Hope I can find out the cure.
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Ajay1 says...
Hi Linton,

Little Saigon market in Footscray definitely has them. I bought some abuot 3 years ago (I still see them for sale now-a-days) and I planted the seed. I have 4 Sapote plants now.

Time: 22nd August 2012 1:31pm

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Linton says...
Hi Ajay

Do you mean Sapodillas or Sapotes? It is fresh Sapodillas that I'm looking for.

Time: 23rd August 2012 11:55am

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fairydinkum says...
Hi Linton, about your picture, do you have many ants around your plant? I'm sure this is an aphids

Time: 24th August 2012 6:34pm

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Linton says...
Memecylon Edule - Delek Air Tree

No there are no ants around. The the dark black lumps were able to be rubbed off and crushed between the fingers like they were some kind of insect eggs.

So I spray it with Pyrethrium one day, and with White Oil the next and now it looks like new!

I am not growing Memecylon for the fruit, but the bright blue flowers that can be seen in this webshot.
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Santol

The local fruit nursery where I live has been growing Santol trees here in Melbourne and they have survived through the cold winter. I also read that they can tolerate some frost so I think they should be suitable for growing in Victoria.

It would be good to hear if anyone is growing them here and if they have produced fruit.

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John Mc says...
I have lost all three here, but they were very young and planted in the ground. If and when I get another one, I'll be keeping it under cover, over winter for a few years till it gets some size about it before planting out next time. Temps don't go under +4

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Linton says...
Santol Trees

I would have to agree about keeping them in pots for as long as possible. The nursery has them in pots under shade cloth, they're about 2 feet high and I'm sure they wouldn't have survived out in the ground.

Time: 14th September 2012 2:05pm

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Julie says...
I saw that on another forum a couple of weeks ago. I just use my clean hands - let it slide through my fingers. No plates or bottle to wash up!

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andrew says...
Hi read through this whole thread! Good to see so many from melbourne giving it a go with tropical/sub tropicals.

I recently got 2 black sapotes (superb and ricks late)
yellow cherry guavas from daleys to try out in the melbourne climate
Also got 4 varieties of blueberries from a local victorian farm and they are flowering profusely and lots of new growth. I have been pulling off the buds to promote branch growth.
Have also a goji berry growing as well.
All are pretty new plants so fingers crossed!
I have several questions about the black sapote. how successful is it in melbourne? And if so what are the tips? I note on this thread one person had theirs flower and another has suggested pine needles as mulch and charcoal as fertiliser!

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Nick T says...
Does any else think that growing pineapples outdoors is a possibility for Victoria? I reckon they'd grow pretty well if given an ideal microclimate (warm and not windy), they seem to survive very well in the unheated greenhouse!

Time: 27th September 2012 8:24am

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Jason says...
Pineapples have been done in Victoria plenty of times, my mum actually told me she fruited one back in the 60s at her farm house. If you grow one on a North wall that will be no problem.

Time: 27th September 2012 2:00pm

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Nick T says...
Brilliant, thanks Jason! I might put them in another month or so, the sand needs a bit more improvement first. I'll keep you guys updated on how they fare :)

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Brendan says...
Don't forget Nick T, pineapples like a bit more phosphorus (P) fertilizer than normal ;-)

Time: 28th September 2012 8:57am

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Mike says...
Linton the name of Balis is Salacca zalacca amboina and they are bisex.The photo is of a lowland pineapple core type of which there are 4 types.What you are looking for is gula pasir from the eastern highlands with the paler skin and smaller seed.Make sure it is called nothing else but gula pasir rather than honey or sugar.They are the best of the 25 or more S.zalaccas but maybe not quite as good a sala sumalee in thailand and sala noen wong.These 3 are the best and most cold tolerant of the salaks.

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Linton says...
Hi Mike

It certainly looks like Bali Sweet according to the description in the attached link. But this site says Bali Sweet is a cold tolerant highland grown, rather than lowland grown which is what you say. Do you think the information is incorrect? Also the exact translation of gula is sugar so it should mean literally sugar sand Salak.

http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/SalBal.shtml


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Mike says...
Gula pasir is the honey coloured one in this shot.The pictured one in your link is a lowland bali.My comment is get a picture of the fruit first as lowlands are common and cheap.
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Mike says...
In English they are called gula pasir so I don't know why they would change the name to something no one knows.People ordering sala sumalee from thailand have found themselvbes saddled with sala sane.
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Linton says...
I got some Star Apples (pictured) from Springvale today so they must be in season. They are smaller than the ones in Vietnam, but taste nearly as good!
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Mike says...
There are still a few varieties of star apples around in the north but the season is tapering off.
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Mike says...
Some purples are a bit bigger and sweeter that haitians.
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Time: 26th October 2012 7:52pm

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Gus says...
are they tasty?

Time: 27th October 2012 10:09pm

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Mike says...
They are a very nice fruit being sweet and yummy.Phillipine gold and copper are 2 really good types not in this more standard assortment.

Time: 27th October 2012 11:14pm

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Mike says...
They are a very nice fruit being sweet and yummy.Phillipine gold and copper are 2 really good types not in this more standard assortment.

Time: 27th October 2012 11:14pm

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Lets see if the pic sticks this time.
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Linton says...
Star Apples.

Wish we could grow them down here but it's impossible.

According to Daleys website, Phillipine Gold are more cold tolerant than other types, but the nursery doesn't have any stock.

Do you think it's worth trying to grow Phillipine Gold or a green type here, provided I can find some?

Time: 28th October 2012 10:37am

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ringelstrumpf says...
That is an interesting thread indeed!
I am not familiar with the climate in Melbourne, how cold does it get in winter?
Do you protect your trees in winter? Or are you in wind protected gardens?
I still have a lot of space in the chicken run, but it is quite windsweapt. Avocados would be good because it is a big tree. But I read that the leaves are poisonous to chicken (I'm not so sure if they would eat it). Are they poisonous to sheep? How fast do avocados grow in cool climate? Do they like this heavy fertilized environment? Citrus would be ideal there but I have the sheep there sometimes too and they just love eating the leaves and they grow very slow, that means I would have to protect them for ages.

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Linton says...
It depends what part of Melbourne you live as to how cold it gets. I live in a bayside area which is not as cold as other suburbs like Ringwood. Rarely get frosts where I live, mininum temperatures in Winter are around 6 - 10 deg overnight, a few nights might get down to 3 deg. but not often.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi all,

I had a chance to visit someone else farm and I found these trees with fruits as follow:

It would be nice if you could identify them for me please.

pic 3 and 4 of the same fruit, I think it may be Bael fruit but not sure

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Linton says...
Hi Lucy

More information required for the fruit please as I've been trying to grow some cultivars of Bael fruit for some time.

Can you put a photo of the leaves on. The leaves of Bael are fairly distinctive and will help with identification.

Is the skin like a hard shell, somewhat like wood? Do you know how long the fruit have been on the tree. I think that Bael fruit takes one year on the tree to ripen.

Lastly, is this tree growing in Melbourne and can you get cuttings?

Thanks a lot and cheers.

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

I forgot my camera and I did take a branch but lost it on the way out. I am not sure if I have another chance in the near future to see that farm. It is in North QLD. The only thing I remember is each fruit has a long stem and when I scratch the surface of the fruit, it smells like unripe mango. I could not break it by hand due to very hard shell. I used a big knife to chop the fruit in half. The tree caught my eye because I saw some dark brown broken skin fruit exposed inside a bit hollow with some dark color seeds.

I will take some cuttings if I have a chance to go there again.

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Time: 4th November 2012 10:19pm

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Linton says...
Looking at the photos I feel fairly certain that they are Bael fruit. It's just a pity that the tree you saw is not growing here in Melbourne!

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MiLK_MaN says...
Hi all,

An update on my garage grow tent....

I upgraded to a 2.8m x 1.4m x 2.8m tent, and have 2 x 126x3W LED lights and a 400W CMH (Ceramic Metal Hallide) light inside. I also bought a humidifer from the US and was gifted a step down transformer from a friend, it has been a perfect addition and now the humidity hovers around 70% - 80% in the tent.

As you can tell from the pics, the Cacao has gone gangbusters and now 3 of the plants in the bigger pots have flowered. I'm waiting a little bit longer then I will try and pollinate manually.

I also have a Vanilla Orchid that is growing really well, you can tell by the pic where there is a tower of tree mulch + some Orchid soil I mixed up where I have enclosed it in a plastic mesh. I read a website that indicated some experiments performed where they get the vine to climb up, fall over then get it to start again and go around the pole, rather than climbing onto a tree or support beam of some sort. This allows them to receive fertilisation from the air roots while they are growing, and supposedly makes the vine healthier and thicker.

I also traveled to Darwin for a work trip, and found a Cacao plant in the botanical gardens. I managed to grab a ripe pod and brought it home, and about 20 or so plants have popped up. I have way too many and am willing to swap for some other tropical fruits that I don't have.
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Steven M says...
Hey everyone. I havent been on here for a while now. I hope everyone's gardens are growing well in this dry summer.

I wanted to ask for some advice, I am growing Papaya in a greenhouse however it doesnt seem to be doing much. The bananas next to it are doing very well but the Papaya grows very slowly and by the time it flowers its almost winter and the fruit dies off. I was thinking of maybe putting another small growing tropical fruit tree in their place but i have no idea what to plant...any suggestions on how to either better the Papaya or what else to grow?


Thanks

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Linton says...
Hi Steven

To grow something like Papayas in Melbourne I suggest you try Babacos. They are very fast growing and don't really need to be grown in a greenhouse as they can produce fruit even growing outside in a sheltered position.

For growing other tropical fruit in a greenhouse it might be worth trying Dwarf Lychees as they seem to prefer being under cover in Melbourne. However they do have them fruiting outside at the place in Police Road.

They also have grafted Sapodillas in Police Road which I couldn't grow outside here, but they might do better in a greenhouse.

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Zabala Fruit - Growing information needed!

It's probably a long shot but I would like to know the best way to germinate some Chilean Zabala fruit seeds (Lardizabala biternata). They are still fresh in the fruit so should they be dried first? From what I read they also need a prolonged cooling period prior to germination.

There about 30 seeds in the fruit so I have a few to spare if someone is interested and has sufficient patience in trying to grow some.
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Time: 25th January 2013 3:38pm

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White Sapotes growing fruits.

The Kampong I got from Daleys a few months ago is also having small fruits on the branches. Should I take them off or just leave them on?

The Wilson variety fruited the same way about 3 months ago, but the dog got them all. I also have a Vernon variety which is rapidly growing tall but no fruit.

I heard the trick to cross pollination is to hope that they all flower at the same time, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Cheers!
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VF says...
Great set of fruit Linton, looks like the Kampong may be an excellent self-pollinator , and may eventually help others too. (If your plants are young, they may just need a little time to synchronize their flowering). Mine is about to open its' flowers any day - hope my results will be as good. As to removing the fruit, I don't know?

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Jantina says...
Hi Linton, this zabala sounds interesting, what does it actually taste like ?

Time: 10th February 2013 10:12am

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Linton says...
Hi Jantina

I've never tasted the Zabala fruit as the one I have is all shrivelled up and nearly dried out but it does smell rather pleasantly pungent so I imagine when fresh they would be quite delicious.

I read that they are well liked in Chile where they are grown. As to growing the seeds, they need a prolonged period of cold, then 1 year to one and a half years for them to germinate, so it's certainly not for someone who's impatient!



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ivepeters says...
Linton
How are the triplets going ?
Hopefully good news.

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Jantina says...
Thanks Linton, if you still have a few spare seeds I wouldn't mind having a go. Do you have my address?

Time: 11th February 2013 4:24pm

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Linton says...
Zabala fruits. Lardizabala.

Yes, I still have your address Jantina so I'll send you a few seeds. If we can get some growing from seeds, they will then be much easier (and much quicker) to multipy by cuttings.

Here's some webshots of them to wet your appetite and hopefully keep your spirits up for the long wait!!!!!!

cheerio....
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Jantina says...
Thank you Linton, much appreciated.

Time: 12th February 2013 8:49am

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Linton says...
Zabala fruit sent - Lardizabala!

Hi Jantina. I have sent you a small piece of Zabala fruit. The sticky brown resin reminds me of a date or a dried prune.

Inside this piece are the seeds which can easily be washed out in a bowl of water with a bit of Epsom Salts.

http://www.fruitipedia.com/zabala.htm

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nickg says...
hi Linton,
would appreciate some seeds if you have some more. I will pay.
email nickgiancola54@gmail.com
thank you

Time: 15th February 2013 6:44pm

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Linton says...
Zabala Fruit

Hi Nick, as mentioned before these seeds need cold stratification and more than 1 year to germinate. If you are sure that you're ok with that I can send you a few. Just don't want people to give up half way through. Cheers!

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nickg says...
Hi Linton,you are looking at a person who has the patience of a saint! I have waited nearly 2 years for panama berry's to germinate! and they are beauties all 50 of them [ who counts heh! heh! ] anyway all jokes aside i would appreciate a few seeds, will do my best and share plants with you and other forum family members in early 2015, hopefully, we call propergate them from cuttings and more people can enjoy exotic fruits.Please email me so i can get your address and send you a token of my appreciation. Cheers Nick






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Phil@Tyalgum says...
Linton seeing as you and I are the only ones apart from the famous Kert who have germinated the Bayberry seeds, if you have a few spare Zabala seeds I'd like to give them a try.. only when convenient, am happy to go on to your waiting list.

Time: 16th February 2013 3:10pm

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Linton says...
Lardizabala biternata

I am happy to divide what's left in the fruit between the 2 of you - Nick and Phil. That will make 4 of us (including Jantina and myself) who are going to try to cultivate this species.

Could you please send your posting addresses to my email:

lintonius at hotmail.com

And I'll send them off on Monday.
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nickg says...
Linton,
the seeds arrived today, i will check the website for exact instructions for germination thanks again a small token for your troubles is on its way.
Cheers

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Jantina says...
The seeds have arrived, thank you Linton. Now for the long wait, good luck to all of us.

Time: 20th February 2013 9:54pm

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Linton says...
Do you think they should be put in the fridge for a few months to achieve cold stratification?

Please let me know anything you can find out about germinating them. Thanks.

Time: 21st February 2013 9:28am

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Jantina says...
Are you asking me Linton? So far all I have found is that they are cold hardy down to - 6.5c I'm inclined to stratify a couple of seeds in the fridge and to plant a couple outside to see what happens.

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nickg says...
Hi Linton Jantina and Phil my co. opperatives in this adventure of propergating Zabala fruit. I've searched far and wide even a couple of experts on propergating seeds that need cold stratification eg. Tamarillo seeds need to be put in a freezer overnight and then planted. I tried this and had 90% success.Some species that come out of places like brasil,peru basically rainforrest situations need to be washed asap put into clean sand [ i use plasterers sand] put the seeds in this sand so they they are just covered moisten them cover with gladwrap and put in the fridge for 30days, but always check that the sand does NOT dry out, add moister as necesary.
I am going with the suggestion of my expert mates and what i will do with my precious seeds is:
1/3 freeze and sow.
1/3 in sand in the fridge first
1/3 put straight in mix on the dark/shady side of my yard.
Hopethis helps you guys and hope some of us have success CHEERS ALL

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Linton says...
Zabala seeds.

Yes, I am doing much the same. I use the yellow sand that they use on sports fields to make the grass grow.

I think that the seeds might rot if they remain in moist soil for too long. Is there some kind of additive that can prevent dormant seeds from rotting in the mix?

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What plant is that?

I got this plant from the local asian supermarket. Since then, whenever I have asian visitors they keep asking me for more of these plants, they love it. Apparently it is used in cooking like Tom Yum soup and is expensive to buy.

However nobody knows what it's English name is and I would like to find out so I can know more about how to grow it. It seems surprisingly drought tolerant, not like all the Chilis which are nearly dead from the lack of rain.

If anyone knows the name can you please let me know. Thanks.


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VF says...
Variety of names Linton: saw-toothed coriander, mexican coriander, thai coriander, culantro are some. It's a herb that has a strong coriander taste/odour, with the benefit of being perennial.

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Julie says...
I bought one last October and it went straight to seed. But the seed didn't seem to mature so I couldn't grow from it.

Seemed to die in a heatwave, but I cut it back severely and it's greening up again. I hope to use some eventually!

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
This saw-toothed coriander is expensive to buy, 8 leaves for a dollar. I add chopped leaves to soup and stirred fry dishes.

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Julie the seed heads can be crushed for flavour when they are new.

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Linton says...
The Culantro Coriander were about $10.00 for 6 seedlings in one pot. So it's much cheaper to grow them yourself than to buy leaves from the grocery shop.

Cheers.

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nickg says...
Hi All lovers of fresh corianda.
Don't buy, grow your own,don't go to a nursey or garden centre to buy seeds, go to your local asian supermarket or store, generally a packet of corianda eating seeds costs a couple of dollars,enough seeds to keep you in corianda for prob 5-10 years!
if you want the very simple instructions how to grow at home in pots, so you have it fresh all year round, drop me a line, and i will gladley help you. PS NO CHARGE!

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Hi Nick

I'm not sure that you can grow Culantro here in Winter, even in pots unless you bring them inside. I read that they die off in winter and regrow when it warms up again. I would like to hear if it's possible to grow it all year round. Thanks.

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MaryT says...
Linton culantro grows all year round here in Sydney, the problem is that they do bolt as Julie said and sets seeds quickly so if you only want leaves it's a bit annoying. However I find the flower/seed heads flavoursome.

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Julie says...
Linton, I'm in Perth, but it can't be that different to Vic - hot summers, cool/cold winters.

I sow coriander (annual) in autumn and it goes to seed as soon as the weather warms up again. It even bolts if I sow it too early, like now.

I have grown it in summer in pots under shadecloth. It only gets to about 3" and goes to seed, but if you do successive sowings you can have it all year round.

I tend to forget, so now I grow as much as I can and freeze in jars for summer use.

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Linton says...
Safu

Butterfruit - Dacryodes edulis

I noticed that a place in Germany has been selling the Safu plants pictured for the last few months and considering that they have been growing them right through the European winter am surprised that they have survived. What is more amazing is the snow on the ground in second picture.

I didn't try them in Melbourne as I thought they wouldn't grow here but now I see them in Germany they may be worth trying here.

The fruiting season starts in May so I'm hoping to get some seeds of the "Cherise" variety then. I know they are grown around Cairns but I would like to know if they have been successfully grown anywhere further south. Cheers.
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micarle says...
Those plants pictured would have been grow in a heated area! I had one a few years ago but it didn't survive winter in the foothills of the blue mtns. I got it from a grower in Cairns

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Linton says...
Safu!

I agree that the Safu plants must have been grown in something like a hothouse. They couldn't possibly be growing outside in the snow.

I don't know what they are going to do with them once they get too big to be grown indoors or if they can be kept small. The Cherise one's I ordered are supposed to be smaller.

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Anyone eaten these....what do they taste like?

Is anyone growing and has eaten the fruit of the Spanish Tamarind from Madagascar? It's called Vangueria edulis and I got this plant from Daleys a few months ago and it's still sprouting new foliage. I read that there are both sweet and sour varieties.
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Linton says...
Japanese Stauntonia Vine - Stauntonia hexaphylla - Lardizabala. Amazing fruit!

I have a few spare seeds if someone with considerable patience would like to try growing this species.

Stauntonia hexaphylla belongs to the Lardizabala family and propagation is similar to it's Chilean cousin, the Zabala fruit. As with Zabala, germination can take up to 18 months. If anyone would like to try these seeds please let me know. Thanks.
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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

Many thanks for sharing, may I have some please?

Lucy.

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nicg says...
Hi Linton, me too if you can spare some seeds.
The zambala seeds you sent me are as snud as a bag in the shade house,lets hope for a result there.

Time: 6th April 2013 8:59pm

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Linton says...
Japanese Stauntonia - Care Needed when Opening Packet!

The Stauntonia seeds have been sent to the 2 candidates for growing this species. However I need to warn you to be very careful when you open the packets. The label inside the clipseal bag is actually a piece of paper folded in half and the seeds are inside it.

So when you remove it you have to be careful the seeds don't go everywhere and you lose them like I nearly did. Best to open the packet over a table to catch any falling seeds, definitely not outside.

Please let me know if you haven't received them by the end of the week.
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Time: 9th April 2013 9:13am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

Many thanks for the seeds and special instructions. I am very much appreciated.
I will open carefully and let you know how I go.

Lucy.

Time: 9th April 2013 11:05am

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

I received your seeds today. Many thanks for your generosity.

Lucy.

Time: 10th April 2013 8:10pm

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Linton says...
Stauntonia hexaphylla - Japanese Stauntonia Vine.

I just got some information that says these seeds require 3 - 5 months of cold stratification in coarse sand.

Cheers!

Time: 13th April 2013 2:50pm

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Attention - Japanese Stauntonia fruit popping now!!!

For those trying to grow the Stauntonia seeds I sent, I can report that some have sprouted in the sand they were being stratified in.

There is some fresh pasta sauce you can buy in the supermarket, it's next to the Latina in the dairy case but I can't remember the brand. The plastic container has a press-seal lid with 4 holes in the top which makes it good for stratifying seeds as the air can circulate, almost too good it now seems.

I put the Stauntonia seeds in this container filled with moist sand on the 12 May, and placed it in the fridge. About a week ago I figured that the weather has gotten cold enough to continue with the stratification outdoors instead of in the fridge, so I left the container out in the garage.

Today I noticed the a number of the seeds have sprouted in the sand inside the container, so much for having to wait for 18 months for them to germinate!

So I suggest for the others to try planting out the seeds now in some seed raising mix as it seems like they are ready to grow.


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Time: 2nd June 2013 5:56pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

You gave us some seeds and followed up by the germination note. Very kind and thoughtful of you. I will start mine soon. Thank you very much. Lucy.

Time: 3rd June 2013 4:39pm

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Linton says...
Sugar Cane

Does anyone have experience with growing Sugar Cane in Melbourne. I've noticed a few people are growing it around my area and I didn't think it could grow here. Thanks.

Time: 3rd June 2013 8:05pm

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JUJUBE FOR SALE IN MELBOURNE says...
Hi Linton,

Yes, I have done it before successfully. They grow quickly in Summer, full sun, like lots of water and fertilizer.

Time: 3rd June 2013 8:20pm

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Linton says...
Sugar Cane.

Hi Lucy, thanks for the info but it sounds like Sugar Cane would need too much water for my dry sandy soil to do any good here. Cheers.

Time: 6th June 2013 8:00pm

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Linton says...
Yolo Fruit - Congo - Seeds!

I currently have some fresh picked Yolo seeds (Aframomum) listed for sale on the internet. The plants are grown like ginger but the fruit are said to have a flavour like salaks.

Since I have a large surplus of these seeds I am happy to swap if anyone is interested in some. Cheers!

http://www.fruitipedia.com/yolo_Afromomium%20spp..htm


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Mike says...
I have Aframomum seedlings coming up from a large fruited species from Uganda.There are many species growing to a range of heights and fruit varies alot as well.The seeds are peppery.

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Linton says...
Sapodillas.

I bought these Sapodillas in Springvale today. They seem to be smaller than the ones in Asia but the flavour is still good - like caramel and sugar.

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allybanana says...
We have great sugar cane growing in EDen 3m high very tastey it is a green variety. It is on a north facing wall and gets water from a down pipe but i belive simlar conditions in melbourne would yeild results. I am trialing a purple variety but it is struggling time will tell. A friend has it growing in a drier spot in the oped and it is growing slowly but healthy if some one wants a cutting i have spare.

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Linton says...
Are these real - Coloured Grapes!

A company in China is selling coloured Turpan Grape seeds, variety Gold Finger. I would like to know if they are really like the colours in the pictures and if they have been produced by some special method.
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JakfruitEttiquette says...
Propagated by Photoshop ??
In pic 1 there are grapes in the background that look real.
I suppose you could inject food colour into each grape ?
Maybe they pollinate them with 100's and 1000's ????

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starling says...
Linton,

Do not, I repeat, do not buy seeds from Aliexpress. There are a lot of bogus sellers on that site.

There are a lot of good sellers, too; I have bought close to a hundred items from Aliexpress.I can recommend some things to you, but None of them will be seeds. Trust me, I've been burned in the not too distant past.

Also, I'll send you some sand cherry cuttings for free when there are some to feasibly cut.

Did I mention not to buy any seeds from aliexpress?

Don't. What will happen is, by the time you figure out that they are run-of-the-mil sultana grapes, or possibly not grapes at all, the store will no longer exist.It's a common scam on tradetang, aliexpress, and alibaba. This is china we're talking about; you aren't covered by any consumer protection laws, and that "escrow" system is, frankly, a joke.

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VF says...
Photoshop for sure! Unless genetically modified with M & M's. :)

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Linton says...
Coloured Grapes!

Thanks for the advice. Don't worry, after reading what you said I won't buy them. I thought they must have been too good to be true.

Look forward to a piece of the sand cherry once it gets bigger though - thanks for the offer. Cheers!

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VF says...
If you want to see real and unusual looking grapes, google Witches Fingers Grapes - they're some new hybrid that are very freaky looking.

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Linton says...
Treacle Fruits.

Even though they are supposed to taste sweet but slightly bitter like treacle, I heard that you shouldn't eat too many Treacle Berries if you are not used to them.

Also I would like to keep growing them in pots (middle picture) and see if they will produce fruit in the pots. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks.
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Linton says...
Safu - Dacryodes butterfruits

Got some more Safu seeds from the Congo, but doubt if they are viable after one and half months in transit. They have also dried out during postage as the supplier did not follow my instructions on how to keep them moist.

Any suggestions on how best to germinate them please? I heard that usually the whole fruit is planted in Africa but of course I could only get clean seeds sent. Cheers.
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Gingerbread Plums growing multiple stems!

Some African Gingerbread Plums I've been growing have survived the Winter. On initial germination only one shoot emerged from the seed. However if you look closely at the pictures, some of them are now growing 2 stems from the same seed, a bit like a sucker.

Is this ok - does something need to be done or should I just leave them? Thanks.
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Chewy says...
Hi Stephen & Tran,
Been reading your interesting tropical plants experience. I have a seed avocardo plant(5yrs old)facing Nth against a brick wall growing very well but no fruit yet. Have you tried girdling to make it fruit(?Stephen)
I also have a longan tree 4 ft tall, will it fruit in Melbourne(?Tran)
Thanks, FC.

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Linton says...
Heatwave this week in Melbourne!

The 45 degrees every day this week has damaged most of my trees that are in the ground. How about other peoples who are in Melbourne and how to avoid them getting burned?

The Rocotto Chilli tree was loaded with green chillies but now they have all turned brown, rotted and cooked, even though the tree was in shade. The large avocado trees have all burned to the ground like last time and the White Sapotes have all their leaves burned off but may come back.

Just about everything has suffered by the fourth day and since we seem to experience these conditions every year I'm inclined to grow only fruit trees that can be raised in pots so they can be given some protection and ample water.

Please let me know any other suggestions. Thanks.

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JUJUBEFORSALEINMELBOURNE1 says...
Hi Linton,

I am sorry to hear that your trees have been damaged by the heat. all of my big trees are a bit dried up but still look green so far except a few big black spiders dropped dead from their nest in the veranda.

Perhaps your trees are growing in very sandy soil and the heat dry them up quickly. I don't water my big trees, just the ones on pots but mulch everything heavily from very cheap mulch every second year.

Good luck, I hope your trees will come back green again very soon.

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Markmelb says...
Hi Linton - I live not far from you in Mount Waverley with clay - I have a friend in Bentleigh east with similar sandy loamy soil to yours and they had some problems - I said for them to protect their Potimarron Pumpkin with a sheet and it worked for them - I covered my 6ft Lamb Hass in ground wrapped in a whitish doona cover attaced to bamboo stakes for 3 afternoons and it survive perfectly in its raised bed - Other Avos in pots i moved into shade - I think i maust have used 4000lt+ as my tanks were dry when heat started - bummer - watered 2-3 times each day but not my big fruit trees in ground - Maripoas Plums cooked on top in tree that were sun exposed - another thing i used first time Yates Droughtshield on new flush growth on Avos and sapotes and worked well - Kiwis look 40% crunchy leaves - Plants that revelled in the heat were Blueberries - Macadamias - Sapotes (3 in ground and Pike100ltBag)- dragonfruit - Mulberries(shatoots)- custard apples and cherimoya and Mangos and Bananas - Cherries all apples in pots and ground fine - citrus yellowed and burned some leaves fingerlime and Pumelo ok was hard bloody work - dont know if I could have kept up the water if I was busy at work - I do feel for you linton as the hardest thing is recovery for plants youve put years into - I just hope this event doesnt repeat itself anytime soon or ill cover everything in sheets

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J says...
Linton, I wrapped shade clothe around my avocodo trees and it mostly protected them and any avocados that they have set. Most of the other the trees in the ground were ok. I've had some leaf burn on some of my white sapotes and a cumquat got hit pretty bad, but the rest of the trees are fine.

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Jason says...
My youngest Reed Avocado took major sunburn, lost most of its leaves and the majority of branches too.. Kinda sucks. But other than the usual burnt and now crunchy fallen off new growth I don't have other serious damage. Unless I'm loosing like inch thick branches I don't worry too much. I have lost inch thick Avocado branches on 45 degree days before.

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Linton says...
Sun burned Trees!

Thanks for all the inputs, some of the mentioned methods I may be able to utilise on my most valued trees. Others I will just have to give up on as the climatic conditions seem set to get worse in the future.

Fortunately most my rarest and irreplaceable species are all in pots so I was able to keep them out of the suns harmful rays. Cheers!

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Dr Fruit says...
Try Louis Glowinskis book the complete guide to fruit growing in australia, Lothian press, he is a Melbourne G.P. with an extensive fruit garden in Toorak, many tropicals.

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Mr Tropical says...
Hi folk,
I have an extra Indian Tamarind plant, about 6 years old and around 90 cms tall (close to a meter). Its in a large pot. Same with Indian Guava - also 6 years old and similar growth as the Tamarind. I am looking to sell both of them. I have a listing on eBay - feel free to take a look.
My avacado (Hass) has plenty of burnt ranches :( and I am not very happy about it at all. Its in very red friable soil that has a lot of moisture. I suppose that's what kept it alive.

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Linton says...
Growing Mangabas in Melbourne.

Seem to be having some success with these inland Mangaba seedlings which have been going for awhile now although still small.

They're the inland variety of Hancornia speciosa which is supposed to be much easier to grow than the Brazilian coastal type which some people report are almost impossible to grow.
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Linton says...
Growing Gingers in Melbourne.

All of the Myoga Gingers I was growing have died. Even though they were in a raised vegetable bed with premium mix, it became too dry due to the fibrous root mesh which prevented any water from penetrating the soil.

So I feel sure that the cause of death was dryness.

However, all of the Krachai (Chinese Keys)are still going well in pots as you can see in the pictures. It seems that these could be one of the best gingers for Melbourne.
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Linton says...
How to grow Planchonella australis?

Last weekend I went to the park and gathered some seeds from the Black Apple Trees. Despite claims that they are easy to germinate, I didn't have much success with them last year.

Any advice regarding pre-treatment, soaking or heat required to get them started?
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sternus1 says...
Linton if you can spare any of those, I'd really, really appreciate as many as I can get.

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Linton says...
Please let me know your postal address for sending.

Send it to - lintoniusathotmail

Thanks.

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Veerabhadra Rao says...
My address is 3 Dent ct,Thomastown, vic 3074. Could you send me jujube tree how much it cost? Please let me know.
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Linton says...
Planchonella australis - Pouteria australis

Yesterday I went back to the place where the Black Apple Trees are growing, only this time I went further in. I found more trees and the ground underneath them was littered with the fruit, some of them were even starting to germinate where they fell.

I have collected some of the fruits (in pictures) to extract the seeds as these ones are more fresh and should be much more viable. Cheers!
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VF says...
Did you try any of the fruit Linton?

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Linton says...
No I didn't eat them as they were a bit too far gone. Some of them smelled just like a nice bottle of red wine so they must have started to ferment in the ground and I believe there is a place is NSW that produces Black Apple Wine.

I will go there earlier next season and try to get some freshly ripe fruit to try.

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Potty Permie says...
What a fascinating forum.
My native fushias have fruited quite sweetly.
Last year I had to prune my limes and lemons to a stump because some careless traveller imported citrus gall wasp to Victoria.
Dear fruit tree afficionados please be careful when you import seeds and propagating material that you don't also bring in pests and diseases.
I mostly buy my fruit trees from Daley's and Diggers Club then stick them in 70-120 litre plastic pots and mulch thickly. This enabled them to survive the summer heat while we were away over Christmas then the March heatwaves with a weekly watering.
They had some afternoon shade from established eucalypts.
My parents successfully grew passionfruit, kiwis, arbutus, figs, plums, quince, apricots, nectarines, crab apples, avocados and lemons, on a sixth of an acre block, along with many flowering bushes and trees including oak, liquid amber, pine, fir and several natives.
Our neighbours had a walnut.
Many plants supposedly needing full sun actually do better in partial shade in our climate.
We have to remember that the Australian sun is extremely strong and this is mainly a desert continent with impoverished salty soils - we have built our cities on our most fertile ground.
This means that it is much more efficient to plant in concentrated areas built up over many years of organic composting, else we can squeeze in many more fruits in large (half wine barrel sized) pots filled with organic mixes including manure as well as blood and bone.
Last winter I lost one Jakfruit but the Diospyras Digyna and Coffee survived in the open, along with the other Jakfruit if somewhat frost bitten.
This year I placed all the frost tender plants on a west facing brick fence under tree canopies.
My collection includes mango, papaya, malabar chesnut, quandong, native gardenia, acerola and other sensitive varieties.
Next year most of them will be moved into a fruit cage I am erecting out of fencing so that we no longer lose all of the ripening fruit to the birds and the possums and the flying foxes which are in plague proportions here in Surrey Hills.
In the meantime I will add a few more exotics to the assortment - the more, the merrier.


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MaryT says...
Potty Permie please don't blame travellers for everything that moves. The problem is we as growers want to grow exotics. We import them and expect the attending pests and diseases to stay or go back to where they came.

It is more important that growers (that's us) recognise those pests and diseases and take prevention or if attacked, dispose of infected materials responsibly. NOT prohibit import. Just as our population has become diverse since the first settlers, the variety of food we grow and eat have expanded. Sure they came with problems and if we desire diversity then we must be part of the solution.

Gall wasps will go wherever there's citrus.





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Boris Spasky says...
What an ignorant, dangerous and highly selfish attitude Mary.
Many viruses have very little obvious symptoms until it is too late. Bit like an AID's patient.
Much fruit stung by fruit fly is not obvious even by a trained eye.
Asian psyllid that is decimating the US citrus industry cannot be seen with the naked eye.
And some how you think you will be able to diagnose an exotic disease and have the knowledge to deal with it. Perhaps with a garlic and chilli spray.
Perhaps you need to learn about citrus canker that nearly wiped out QLD citrus early last decade because a similar group of foolish people imported infected budwood illegally from Asia.

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I don't think asking growers to understand the potential problems of what they want to grow is being ignorant, dangerous and selfish but of course you are entitled to your opinion, Boris Spasky. Queensland is full of citrus trees, healthy ones. We were talking gall wasps. I am saying that prohibiting import which may or may not have diseases is ignorant; or maybe it's just cheaper and easier.

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jakfruit etiquette says...
Remember the horse flu situation a few years ago, that was intro'd via legally imported race horses, thru quarrantine, and ticked off all the protocols. Why ??
The fast turn around of top foreign race horses for the major race carnivals.
Canker in QLD... most likely a major Citrus grower illegally bringing in budwood and mass propagating it.
Home gardners need to be very aware, because they always get the blame for the failure of Qtine, DPI and the Hort Industry. Tonnes of Citrus fruit are coming into Australia every week from USA. No greening threat there ???

Time: 17th June 2014 2:34pm

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Terrence says...
Part of the problem is that AQIS is so bloody minded . They charge in the vicinity of 30k dollars to take something through the quarantine procedure . Stories abound of them not looking after plants in their care and saying 'tough luck' when they die.
There is a public interest in importing improved varieties and is rightly a function of government if the costs are so onerous . If not, we should be eating wattle seeds and possums.

Time: 19th June 2014 9:50am

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Linton says...
Fingersop plants are not phased by the cold flash in Melbourne. They have been kept outside in pots right through winter.

It's Meiogyne cylindrocarpa and it produces a small red sausage shaped fruit.
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Time: 2nd August 2014 6:01pm

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BenW says...
What do they taste like?

Time: 3rd August 2014 12:37am

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Linton says...
Hi Ben - Fingersops (Meiogyne)aka Darwin Apricots.

I've never tasted them as my plants are only a couple of years old. I read that they have a typical annona flavour.

I don't know how long they take to produce fruit, but the first thing was to determine if they could be grown in Melbourne and so far it seems like they can.

Webshot attached of some fruit growing in Gladstone BG. Cheers!
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Time: 3rd August 2014 6:24pm

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sandy3127 says...
Hi Salvias, Please do let me know if you still have any more banana plants. Thanks
Sandy

Time: 21st August 2014 10:14pm

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Linton says...
Trying to order plants from Burringbar Nurseries!

I have tried placing about 4 or 5 orders with the nurseries in Burringbar over the past year but they are never delivered and they won't answer my messages.

I used to buy a lot of plants from Botanic Gardens nursery there, but they don't seem to want to send them any more. It seems to have changed since the second nursery started up in competition in Burringbar.

So I'm wondering if anyone has managed to buy plants from them for sending. Their website states there is no minimum order so that can't be the cause.

Problem is, they have some plants that I really want and I can't find them anywhere else. Any suggestions please! Thank you.



Time: 28th August 2014 1:30pm

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Linton says...
Anyone got from C4?

I'm still trying to get the plants from Burringbar but without success as they won't send them to Victoria. They're a type of native ginger from North Queensland.

I believe that C4's Nursery in Mission Beach might also grow them but I don't think they supply to the public. Has anyone ever gotten plants from C4?

Please let me know. Thanks.

Time: 31st August 2014 1:09pm

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Linton says...
Ceylon Hill Gooseberry likes winter in Melbourne.


I got some advanced Ceylon Hill Gooseberry plants sent down from a nursery on the Sunshine Coast about 6 months ago and put them on the veranda.

They have been there all winter and have not suffered at all from the cold temperatures outside. I expect they will start to take off as soon as it gets a bit warmer and hopefully might get a crop this summer. Should be good for the climate here. Cheers!
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ivepeters says...
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Hope you routinely spray them with a fungicide.

Time: 4th September 2014 10:55pm

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Linton says...
How adaptable is Safu?

According to Wikipedia and other sources, they claim that Dacryodes edulis, or the African Butter Pear, is readily adaptive to a wide range of temperatures and conditions.

This may explain why this Safu seedling sprouted new leaves during the icy antarctic blast that swept through a few weeks ago. This plant first sprouted in the depths of winter so it seems like the information that they can adapt easily may be true. Anyone know more or am I dreaming? It would be great if it can be grown in Melbourne.

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Time: 23rd September 2014 7:17pm

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sandy says...
does anyone have any fruit trees or plants for sale or give away?
Thanks
Sandy


Time: 30th September 2014 1:54pm

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70 says...
Hi sandy3127 I have banana plants and live in Balwyn. Please leave your email address so I can contact you.

cheers

Time: 30th September 2014 8:39pm

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au0rey says...
Hi 70,

Can you also email me regarding your banana trees? Au0rey@hotmail.com

Time: 30th September 2014 10:48pm

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au0rey says...
Hi 70,

Can you also email me regarding your banana trees? Au0rey@hotmail.com

Time: 30th September 2014 10:48pm

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Linton says...
Say hello to Safu!


Dacryodes edulis from seed.
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Time: 18th October 2014 1:53pm

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Linton says...
Blue Velvet Tamarind - Dialium indum

Pictures of Velvet Tamarind fruit being sold at a market which I was able to try. Apparently they are not cultivated in Asia and the fruit are only harvested from trees growing in the wild.

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Time: 2nd December 2014 9:07am

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Linton says...
Safou seeds sprouting - Dacryodes edulis.

Four Safu seeds were planted recently and all of them have sprouted within a few weeks so it's 100% germination!

Much thanks goes to Mark who nurtured these seeds while they were incubating.

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Time: 3rd December 2014 9:04pm

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Markmelb says...
Heres a Photo of an Avocado on my almost 2 years from purchase Lamb Hass - it took about 15 months from flower set to eat today and tastes great with a good oil content and a quite small seed so alot of flesh - pretty pleased as have one more from this tree and 10 more to pick from another so will crop as I require. (seed was removed and washed and put back) put in a second pic of depth of flesh under seed showing good volume.
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Brendan says...
Hi Markmelb, on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you give it for taste?

Time: 8th December 2014 9:34am

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Markmelb says...
Well Ive never had a 10 yet as I know they are out there? Not Tried a Wurtz - Ederanol - Rincon or a Pinkerton yet but is at least an equal 8 out of 10 in the botton 2/3 as stalk end ripened too much but bottom was firm and not watery and had a nice flavour as good as the NZ Hass from Aldi. My second one im ripening i put grafting wax on end to stop air getting in too fast and isnt ripening on top as fast - skin goes alot blacker than Hass too :)

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jason says...
NZ commercial Hass is about a six :). Long way from home grown Victorian Hass (9). Victorian Reed (10). Edranol from NSW is up there too from what I remember. QLD Hass is not so good.

Time: 9th December 2014 1:38pm

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Markmelb says...
Hi Jason - havnt had one of your reeds yet but those ive had down here are a bit watery - this years coles reeds were a tad better - i would give a 5 or 6 - have to try a hass from farm near Flinders to see what you mean there - interested to see what my in ground Lamb Hass tastes like next year - long wait - LOL ( ive actually tried seedling Hass in springvale and was about a 6 - but my Fuerte in Richmond would give a 7 or 8 as it compares well to my LH :)

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jason says...
Fuerte isn't that good for me, it's OK but not outstanding. Reed has a disctint fluffy poached egg yolk kind taste, only mild but it's there. I've never had a good Reed from a shop though, picked way too early I think. All the commercial growers push the limits on when they pick Hass too because the prices are so much better if you are first in. I ate a Hass from next years Winter crop last week and it was already reasnoble but nothing like it will be in six months.

Time: 11th December 2014 2:01pm

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Markmelb says...
Heres a pic of a Wurtz that i have grafted a piece of Ederanol on as the doner plants rootstock is dying - so looks like ive got a double grafted A and B on one plant - bit of a rarity as I dont know the birdwood rootstock used here but could be Zutano
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Time: 11th December 2014 10:19pm

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jason says...
That's getting a bit fancy!. Did you get any kind of abnormal amount of fruit set this year?. Some weird things happened here.. Like mass fruit set on my Ettinger trees, also on Fuerte. I initially thought OK.. Is this new type A seedling that's pollinating them but its simply too far away from some to have done that so it must have been the weather. Just how abnormal has it been?. I'm years past reading the weather so I have no clue what's been happening there. But they way its going my next crop is probably going to go past 1000 fruit in total from all my trees and I'm still pulling everything off my really good young hass. (The one I grafted a few years ago). Its 7-8 foot x 7 foot already and really wants to fruit but not yet..

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jason says...
My type b seedling is in its third year flowering and didn't set fruit so its getting the chop. The type A seedling which threw like 3 flowers last year and maybe hundred this year has set a few fruit. I'm starting to get a little bit of an idea what shape fruit it'll be seems pear shape so far (maybe). Very exciting.

Time: 12th December 2014 3:51am

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A.C says...
Can u tell me who might have some Safou seeds/seedlings (Dacryodes edulis) for sale? Please contact me at crbgn@yahoo.com.au. Thank you.


Time: 30th March 2015 2:25pm

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Linton says...
There are a few trees being grown in North Queensland but I don't think there is anyone selling Safu plants or seeds in Australia.

The ones I have in pots in these pictures were grown from seeds sourced from overseas. Dacryodes edulis is an approved species for import but the main problem you will have is they are very fragile and generally remain viable for only a few weeks.

It took me quite a few times to get it right but I found if they are packed in air pillows for protection and can arrive within a very short transit time (about 2 weeks) from harvest, then I achieved a good germination rate of 99%.
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A.C says...
I did contact a person in QLD said they grow them in a hothouse and were unaware they grow in varying climates.Your plants are growing well.If you ever want to sell any please contact me on previous post above.Thank you for your reply Linton.


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Linton says...
Lapsis coming up multi-stemmed.

These Lapsi Hog Plums are sprouting numerous stems from the one seed. In each pot in the pictures there is only one seed, but many plants seem to be growing from it. I think this is due to polyembrionic, right?

I would like to know if all but one of the stems should be removed or just let them grow like they are?

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Markmelb says...
Finally decided to pick to ripen my Palmer Dwarf Mango today - weighed in at 727gm - Hopefully good growth next summer and maybe will remove flowers this time and concentrate on the Nam Doc Mai fruiting as this is a good size for holding a couple Mangos - next to the Palmer are some good sized Tahitian Limes this year too :)
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Linton says...
gummiberries fruiting now!

The Bolivian Fuchsias are loaded with gummiberry fruit at the moment. Ate a handful today which were rather pleasing with a lemony kiwi-like flavour and supposed to be excellent in fruit salad as well.

Once the berries turn purple they become juicy and heavenly sweet. Cheers!
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Time: 25th June 2015 8:15pm

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Linton says...
Fuchsia Berries:

Now I have got some berries on my Fuchsia procumbens plant which is about 6 months old and is still in a rather small 12cm pot. I have yet to try them but the flavour of F. procumbens is reported as being good. It will be interesting to compare them to the Bolivian ones that I like to snack on when I walk past the bushes in my yard and they tend to fruit almost continuously for most of the year.

If any person or persons is interested to hear what the flavour is like please advise and I will be happy to report back once I have tasted them. Thanks.

To be continued..........
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